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Xbox 360 Japan exclusives: Less than 1million sold combined

Gamesthirst writes: From its debut in Japan, Microsoft has stretched her muscles, taking risk, spending serious cash, buying "timed exclusives" all in an effort to make the Xbox 360 ubiquitous in the land of the rising sun. Question is, has the strategy worked out? Earlier this year, the software giant reported that it finally past the 1million mark of consoles sold in Japan, a goal they thought would be achieved a year earlier. The Japanese have reacted very lukewarm to the Xbox 360; and that's to say the least. Numbers don't lie, so, we've compiled a list of the top 4 "exclusive" Xbox 360 games and sales data in Japan. Life-to-date sales are as follows:

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Gabe EatsWell5357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

LMFAO!

"On top of all that, the PS3 versions will add new features. Some with new characters, new maps, upscaled graphics and even refined gameplay."

Xbots - the definitive beta testers this generation.

chidori6665357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

360fixme is died in japan.

fact!

is because japaneses is smart people...

Berserk15357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

Eternal Sonata
Folklore
Final Fantasy XIV
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Final Fantasy XIII
Resconance of Fate
Disgaea 3
Demons Souls
Valkyria Chronicles
Wizardry: Dungeon of Imprisoned Souls
Tales of Vesperia
Trinity Zill O’ll Zero
3D Dot Game Heroes
Tears to Tiara Gaiden: Avalon Riddle
White Knight Chronicles
Agarest: Generations of War
Cross Edge
STAR OCEAN: THE LAST HOPE International.

EpicGamerSwordsman5356d ago

Yeah & Retarded Bots Said KZ2 Flopped... 360 Might aswell just Give up the battle in Japan.

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KingKionic 5357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

damn....

761,468

chaosatom5357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

He is handling the xbox like a time-bomb and afraid that it's going to explode /XD

but on topic:

FF13 sales for one week is probably >>>>>>>
1. Star Ocean 4 (life-to-date: 208,521)
2. Blue Dragon (life-to-date: 203,740)
3. Tales of Vesperia (life-to-date: 194,714)
4. Last Remnant (life-to-date: 154,493)
combined.

Square just likes shooting themselves in the foot when they went exclusives with their RPGs.

KingKionic 5357d ago

Microsoft needs to do something more to increase there sales . But obviously it`s hard for them in japan .

Just seeing the ps3 game sales shows what japan likes .

Microsoft currently in a fold status .

Dragun6195357d ago

I'm gonna guess Magna Carta 2 was the last push for MS in Japan which didn't stay in the Top 20 for more than 2 weeks due to Dragon Quest IX.

And I'm also gonna guess that Magna Carta 2 is gonna get ported to the PS3 in 6 months with more content and upgrade graphics.

ABizzel15357d ago

I for one am one of the people who say MS should give up in Japan. But I need to correct my statement. I agree they shouldn't just pull out of Japan that would be stupid, becuase if they do then they have no chance of ever piercing the market there.

However, I think MS should stop buying timed exclusives there and use there money on games that are big in Europe and North America, and have Japan developers continue to put content on their system. Let's be realistic here Xbox has been in Japan for almost 4 years and its barely over 1 millions consoles, meaning whatever their doing over there isn't working. MS needs to stop focusing on getting timed exclusive JRPG's (seeing how the Japanese gamers are willing to wait for them and not buy a 360 just to play), and do research and development to see what is stopping Japanese gamers from buying their console (even at $199), and what they can do to get them to buy their console, because JRPG's obviously aren't working.

Now while their doing that they need to fight in Europe to maintain their lead, because Sony has caught up (MS has a 1 million lead). They need to do whatever they can to stop Sony from getting in second place in Europe, because that will be the beginning of the end for them.

North America is MS best region, and that's where they need to continue dominating at. North America buys the most consoles, and as long as MS keeps the image that they are the best console (which is what their constant marketing does) then they will stay ahead of Sony. Not to mention that NA is the only place MS realistically has a chance of catching the Wii (7 million lead over 360 in NA).

So I don't think MS should pull out of Japan all together, but I think they should reevaluate their strategy, because Sony's coming for them in Europe, and in Japan it seems like MS has only been prolonging their defeat. So they need to focus on the two territories that are currently the most profitable and largest in the gaming industry and try to keep a stronghold on them.

Now quickly Sony needs to do what they can to break loose in Japan and take it over from the Wii, they need to support Europe more espically since that's the region that bought the most PS3's, and they need find ways to get NA to buy more PS3's. The price drop is a good starting point, but their going to have to do more than that. Get the price down again (not expecting this anytime soon), get their online completely on par with XBL, get their community to be as cohesive as XBL, and continue to pump out amazing games.

Nintendo a price drop should do more than enough to keep you in the top spot for the rest of this generation.

360FTW25357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

360 RPG list from comment above: (4 items)

1. Star Ocean 4 (life-to-date: 208,521)
2. Blue Dragon (life-to-date: 203,740)
3. Tales of Vesperia (life-to-date: 194,714)
4. Last Remnant (life-to-date: 154,493)
combined.

Total - 761K

PS3 RPGs sold in Japan: (7 Items)

Valkyria Chronicles - 220K
Enchanted Arms - 40K
Demon Souls - 130K
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice - 110K
Eternal Sonata - 70K
Folklore - 50K
White Knight Chronicles - 350K
_____________________________ _____

Total 970K

7 titles and look Under 1m sold combined. And just think, Japan is the PS3's home territory.

Haha, you guys should be ashamed. The 360 is expected to suck in Japan (At least by you guy's account.) Yet, here you have the home town favorite not doing much better. As a matter of fact there are only 2 of the ones on the PS3 list that did better than the lowest one on the 360's list. Funny how that works huh?

Edit:

@ 4 below

You act as if these 4 titles are the only titles sold for the 360 in japan. Open your mind son, you're being blinded by your own BS.

Maddens Raiders5357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

first to say it, but is anyone really surprised? This is the way things will trend from here on out with even more separation by the PS3 as the years grow long. Don't be surprised if Microsoft asks Sony to make their hardware for them next time round.

trane075357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

ps3 in fact has hit one million sales when it comes to rpgs, despite what its lacking. you forgot one rpg:

Tales of Vesperia came in at 237,000 units for the week, which in fact is its highest sales rate to date since its being released. Ps3 beat 360's year to date sales within the first day.

That puts ps3's sales quite over 1 million when it comes rpgs, and by the time the more "anticipated" titles get released (star ocean, final fantasy 13) its sales should be at least twice as high.

Sad fellow. Trying to use numbers to make yourself feel better when all it does is put you in a contradiction. In fact, ps3 is doing MUCH MUCH better in comparison to the 360. Funny how that works huh?

Total 970K + 237k = A hellvua lot more than 761,468
*smooches*

raztad5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

@360FTW

Look dude.

First give a closer look to the xbox rpgs. All of them are classic Jrpg and two of them are big franchises.

Now give a look at your PS3 list of rpgs. VC (tactical-rpg - Niche), Disgaea (strategy rpg - uber niche), Folklore (action-Western rpg), Demons Souls (action-Western -rpg). <-- These rpg are new ip and niche titles.

Enchanted A and Eternal S were one year+ late flops on the PS3. You are padding the list with these two.

The only decent Jrpg is WKC and it sold a lot better than the big franchises on the xbox. The very Tales of Vesperia PS3 sold in only one one day what ToV xbox has sold lifetime.

FarEastOrient5356d ago

@Xbox360

Where did you get your numbers?

White Knight Story sold more than 400 thousand units on the first week alone and Valkyria Chronicles went to the top of the list twice (2nd was when DLC was released). Get your numbers straight...

FOXDIE5356d ago

exept the flaws the other pointed out, you forgot that 50% of the games in your list are not real RPGs like their 360 counterparts.

andron5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

Lost Odyssey sold even worse than these four in japan. According to Famitsu it sold 104.417 copies.

http://thirdworldgamer.blog...

That would have made the total 865.885 for the top 5 best selling JRPG games on the 360 in japan...

gaffyh5356d ago

@above - Wow Lost Odyssey only sold that much, the game is a great JRPG.

@1.6 - Difference between the lists you given is, Xbox 360 - 2 sequels to very popular IPS, PS3 only 1 sequel to a fairly popular IP (Disgaea, not for everyone). Yet PS3 sales still outpace 360 sales. Obviously everyone here is forgetting that PS3 outnumbers 360 3:1 in Japan, same way Xbox fanboys always forget to mention that the 360 outnumbers PS3 3:1 in NA when talking about sales.

mfwahwah5356d ago

@1.6

I'll let you feel like you're right for now.

The day after FFXIII is released and we have some "First Day Sales" article, I expect to see you there so you can eat your words, though.

That one RPG should outsell those 4 titles' lifetime sales easily.

Saigon5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

I understand what you pointed out and sad to say you are right, but I think when you pulled the numbers you missed several valid points...

First off when comparing the list of games that you listed from the 360 only one is a true exclusive From the PS3 5 are exclusive...If you add all of the true exclusives from each console and compare them...the difference in numbers will be shown...

Secondly comparing a port of a bad game doesn't help...you shouldmt have put Enchanted Arms in the list...ToV is a better example because it was a good game and now that is has been redone for the PS3 with new animation levels and characters...its worth a purchase...

Last the only way to truly compare a game in Japan is to see how it performs with a simultaneous release...and we all know what Resident Evil 5 did...

pixelsword5356d ago

I never realized that.

But what about PS3/Wii exclusives? Now I'm curious, lol.

KingME5356d ago

Funny thing is, 360FTW2 was trying to make a point, a point for which I can see and perhaps that's because my mind is opened enough in the subject to see where he is going with it.

Now in 360FTW's defense, I would like to add to the argument one of the oldest arguments used on N4G by PS3 fans. That argument is, the PS3 has a 3-1 fanbase advantage 1.15m (360) vs 3.54m (PS3) over the 360. None of you took that into account. Now with that being said, his point does have some validity and you guys should have not stripped him of his bubbles.

That's becoming a big problem around here, there is no room for a good debate because people would rather just take your bubbles away than to face possible defeat in a fair debate. Which is kinda sad.

The PS3 has 3 times the install base in Japan, Japan is the PS3s home base. Why would the PS3 not have more RPGs sold than the 360. Additionally, had they not tweaked the hell out of tales of v, how well would it have sold.

Either way, you guys are right when you go number for number, but if you used percentages based on fanbase, you would be wrong.

Ldubbz5356d ago

but lets take in the big picture. Halo + Gears = more exclusive sales than all PS3 exclusives COMBINED. Worldwide.

Thats all...

GiantEnemyCrab5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

360T: Actually, your data is a bit flawed but nevertheless I get what you are saying.

I hate even bringing up the PS3 in this but when you combine all Japan PS3 exclusives it's just barely over 1.4 million and you are talking like triple the user base. To be fair the 360 launched a year early but this is Sony's back yard.

Damn, the PS3 fanboys flock in here like someone just announced a PS3 with a glory hole built in it.. Are we playing "Sales: The Game" again? And it's okay to do that now right SDF?

@1.18: Ouch!

baph7775356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

I don't really know why Japanese publishers would continue to put their games on 360 if Microsoft wasn't paying them to do so. There are some benfits for Japanese companies to do so though ie. sales of games on the 360 help pay for the better versions on the PS3.

However, once FFXIII comes out in Japan and the PS3 install base grows to over 5 million in Japan by February 1, 2010 while the 360's install base isn't likely to be over 1.3 million there then, I don't know why Japanese developers would feel a need to put their games on 360 then.

And really the sales of these four Japanese exclusives for 360 weren't that much better in the West because unlike most PS3 fans that have loved jrpgs since the Super Nintendo days, most 360 gamers are shooter fans instead.

The 360 does have a reputation in Japan as a good system for cheap, niche arcade shooters.

gaffyh5356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

@KingME - You are not open minded, you are one of the biggest fanboys on N4G. In fact, you probably are 360FTW2.

@Ldubbz - But did that few hundreds of thousands of sales cover costs for the developers? That's what matters, Halo and Gears can sell however much they like, as long as they cover their cost, that's all that matters. Gaming isn't about sales, just enough so that the devs can cover their costs, in order for them to survive and continue to make games.

I already said it before, fanboys on both sides never take into account the user base when talking about sales. And also a blog shouldn't really have been approved. With that being said though, FF13 will sell 1 million in the first few weeks of release (if not the first week) in Japan, it's almost guaranteed.

prowiew5356d ago

I bought all of those games, except star ocean. Didn't like any of them.

baph7775356d ago

Yeah, the point about the 360 having sold 1/3 less consoles than the PS3 in Japan would be a very valid one if the 360 had come out a year after the PS3 there. However, the reverse is true. The PS3 came out a full year after the 360 in Japan and it still has a sold roughly 3 times more units than the 360 in Japan even with the 360 getting huge games from the likes of Square and Namco that the PS3 hasn't received yet, so that should tell you something right there.

And shortly after FFXIII comes out on 12-17-09 in Japan the margin will be more than 4x as many PS3s sold in Japan than 360's and rapidly heading towards 5x the number of PS3s sold in Japan than 360s with everything I mentioned in my first paragraph still being true.

Ldubbz5356d ago

As far as sales in Japan go, people miss the point. When MS gets exclusivity for big Japan-centric titles, its more than just sales, its establishing credibility with the gamers there. The fact that the 360 is enjoying far more success there than the Xbox is a testament to that fact.

Also, those exclusive games dont sell only in Japan, they sell them the world over.

Two examples:

Blue Dragon is at 530k WW
Lost Oddyssey is at 810k WW

MS is building relationships with devs and gamers there for this gen onto the next and so on. People would have said it was nuts if I told you Capcom and Square were releasing exclusives and former exclusives to the 360. But thats where we're at.

Japan is a hard nut to crack for any western company. I applaud the 360's relative success there, but also know there is more work to be done.

360FTW25356d ago (Edited 5356d ago )

haha, you are right ding ding ding you win a prize. I am Kingme, I am also GiantEnemy, The Mart, and any other 360 fan that you don't agree with. I think you would have seemed a bit more intelligent had you just addressed what Kingme said, but I guess you had no intelligent answer for that.

I looked at Kingme's comments, and it looks to me that most of his comments are not comments bragging about the 360, but comments slamming fanboys like you for bragging and making sh!t up. Now, your comments on the other hand screams fanboy.

Hey Kingme, PM your gamertag, no, wait you can't, I mean what am I thinking, I already know it, because I am you...haha incredible.

@baph777
"the 360 came out a year earlier", man when will it ever stop with you guys, you are constantly throwing out the same bullsh!t. The PS3 has been out long enough for the 1 year headstart to be put to bed now. Ask any wii owner they'll vouche for that. Also, what's your excuse for getting abused in your home turf vs the wii defending champ? That's a fair fight isn't it, both from Japan, hell the wii even spotted you a blu-ray player, hard drive, and HD graphics. Oh, that's right you don't have any excuse for that situation other than the lame casual gamer bit.

andron5355d ago

If those games had stayed exclusive to the xbox 360 in japan they might have accomplished something.

But since they get ported to PS3 with upgrades those who bought them for the 360 feel cheated and MS are back to square one...

KingME5355d ago

Right, Gaffyh lots of creativity there. Sure who else am I.

I've lost all respect for you, and on this site that leaves you with nothing. Get lost youngster. To be honest, I don't care who you think I am. Just another lame defense mechanism used by immature people. Next time, stick with addressing the comment.

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Obama5357d ago

I think quite a lot of Japanese bought a 360 in the first place because they thought SO4 and TOV were exclusive. No wonder they were so angry after the games went multiplatform.

Aquarius5356d ago

I wouldn't say they went multiplatform. The massive enhancements that the games went through would make it an exclusive to PS3 ;)

Sunny_D5357d ago

Goodness sakes man,that's Terrible. Not even funny. Why go exclusive to the 360 when this is actually happening?

supremacy5356d ago

almost feels like they are wasting money and time in japan. but who knows.

i for one believe that if the ps3 is to over take the 360 worldwide in sales, japan is going to be the reason why and with the ps3 now @299 i really don't see the 360 blowing it away anymore anywhere in the world.

so say if things remain on an even scale elsewhere while japan shows bigger numbers than yeah you are going to see a change in position rather soon than later trust me.

sure the wii will remain on top, but im not talking about the wii here now.

Microsoft Xbox 3605357d ago (Edited 5357d ago )

LOL @ having more consoles sold than those software combined. Doesn't that tell you something? Either MS are counting replacements as units sold or them Japanese are using these 360's for something else. It does seem to be getting cold outside.

bunfighterii5357d ago

There are other games than these 4, you realise....

Godmars2905357d ago

Doesn't the fact that the console sold just over a million after four years tell you something?

Like there aren't that many JP gamers even buying it to matter?

ThanatosDMC5357d ago

Guess, you're trying to say it's some sort of heater or a grill or something? Yeah, im just asking. I thought it was nice and cool in Japan last time i was there. It actually snows there around Christmas.

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I Have A Confession, I Like The Fallout 3 Green Filter

The game looks too clean without it.

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isarai3d ago

How about you actually SHOW wtf you're talking about

Nacho_Z2d ago

Always annoying when articles do that.

I agree with them that the tv show was a bit on the clean side. They got loads right regarding set design etc but there's room for improvement.

gold_drake2d ago

i dont. it hurts my eyes. but im fairly ssensitive when it comes to that sort of stuff.