The Truth About Halo 3: ODST

From 6.3 ratings which PS3 fanboys are galavanting in from the likes of NowGamer to 9.0 ratings which Xbox 360 fanboys are praising from Eurogamer Portgual, ratings have been all across the board for HALO 3: ODST and while the ultimate judgment comes from you the gamer, it would be nice to get a clear idea of what you're getting into with HALO 3: ODST

There are enough reviews going around good and bad, so to be fair to those individuals who are interested in buying HALO 3: ODST let's make it simple. If you own an Xbox 360 and you are a fan of the franchise, by all means purchase this game. For casual gamers who are relatively new Xbox 360 owners looking for a new and cool FPS experience, buy HALO 3: ODST. HALO 3: ODST is clearly the best Xbox 360 exclusive in 2009 so far, however, depending on who you ask that might not be saying a whole lot.

[lociefer]

i cant belive im saying this, but this article is really good and makes alot of sense, i for one was against odst for its high price for the single player, i have most of halo 3's maps so i dont need the multi cd, so if i wanted to play the single player i have to chill out a 60$ wich totally sux

[gaffyh]

The problem with the game is the price. If it was $40, it's easily a 9/10 game right? But at $60 it is definitely not a 9/10.

Simple as that.

edit: Also let me add to this the fact that the campaign in this is shorter than Heavenly Sword, and if Heavenly Sword was cut down for being short, despite being one of the most epic games this gen, ODST should be cut down for being short.

[Panthers]

If you are just playing the single player, rent it. That would be my suggestion.

[FamilyGuy]

This game would be ideal for someone who never bought the map packs but love the online multi-player, a person interested in Halo but is new to the 360 and someone who just has to see how ODST turns out.

If you've bought all the map packs then it sucks that this one has 3 exclusive ones you won't be able to get anywhere else and if not for those I'd say rent it.

Rating wise, I think the human character models in this games are hideous yet I've only seen one review knock this game for it's graphics (you can easily guess which one). What's up with giving this game a free pass graphics wise? It's $60, it has "jaggies" galore and FFX, from last gen, has better looking faces.

Every review so far says it's great and they only really knock it for the pricing. So give it a 10 for gameplay but don't lie to everyone and pass it with an 8-9 in graphics.

[Immortal Kaim]

Lucky ODST IS cheaper than a regular full priced game then, at least in Aus.

For my fellow Aussie gamers, BIGW have ODST for $68...better than RRP of $99 at EB ;)

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

...and Heavenly Sword does not have multiplayer or any other game mode. All you get is one short single player campaign and for that Sony happily charged you almost $60 for almost 2 years. It is still $40+ on amazon.com today.

[topdawg122]

@ gaffyh, I agree with you totally, it seems people are praising the 5 hour campaign without any negatives. HS got bashed for it and so should this, i'm sure it's a great game, but the price and what you actually get are the problem. It just doesn't justify a 9 type of score especially with everything basically rehashed. This seems like an 8 to me.
@idlesiulung, Heavenly Sword has one of the best stories, best motion capture, facial animations, and voice acting to date. It was a new ip and there was replay value. Bonus videos, unlockable cutscenes, artwork, and dozens of combos to unlock. It still got pegged harsh for having a 7 hour campaign. Thats bs and you know it

[gaffyh]

@1.5 - And yet the multiplayer in ODST is the same as Halo 3, Firefight is a worse version of Horde. And 99% of the people who buy ODST, will be those that bought Halo 3, which means there is not enough value here.

Also regarding Heavenly Sword, exactly, that game was $60 and was longer than ODST, and got low score because it was short (even though it was about 8-9 hours on a normal play through). In the same way ODST should get low scores, but this is what happens when fanboys review games, they give it a high score just because of the name.

The only reason you are paying the extra $20 is for the Halo: Reach beta.

[DAVID BRENT]

majority of sites have given this game pass on the graphics,hardly any review has spoken about them, personally i just dont understand,do i think theres more to this than meets the eye? definately,its a clear example that gamers and not fanboys should be given the task of reviewing games

[Sarcasm]

The Truth about Halo ODST? YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. The truth handles youuuuuu. And Beyonce's video is one of the greatests of all time!

[kwicksandz]

Thanks Kaim! i was gonna go get it @ JB for 79 but big w trumps them by $10 that has to be almost cost price for a retail store bravo BIG W!

[y0haN]

I've found it for £30 and from what I've seen, it's still not worth that much. I'll wait for it to hit 20 or less.

[mastiffchild]

@Idle-You know that HS has been available as a Plt for nearly two years at £20 don't you? You couldn't find a UK store on the hig street where they'd ask more than £15 for HS and mostly it's 7 to 10 pounds. Also HS is STILL a lot better looking than ODST and contains huge cinematics, unequalled facial mocap and some of the best ever gaming animations so you're just being a bit OTT with the game and the price went down well before two years passed-more like a few months, IIRC.

ODST is, because we all know it started life as just DLC, at a disadvantage and if you, like me, bought all the maps it doesn't with three more maps, one mode and a tiny SP merit a full retail price release. Had it been a $4o game I really don't think thee would have been much moaning but in people's heads they're paying $60 for something which, mostly, they already own nearly half of. A longer SP(say 10 to 12 hours)or sell it for less and I think ALL the reviews would have been very positive and we wouldn't hear so many dissenting voices.

Being cynical you could intimate that adding all the DLC maps cost MS nothing(as by now pretty much everyone who would have bought them has done so)and they just added them to ODST to bulk out the package because they know for $60 it's a bit light. The game will no doubt play realy well but it's just a little steep for the amount of new content we're getting and that's why the reviews are so up and down for a Halo game. Again I'd say that at $40 it would surely deserve 9/10s.

[I_am_rushin]

The fact is that if this game was reviewed by someone who had never played Halo before. It would get a 7. All these sites criticize it, but it gets a free ride because it's "teh haloz".

[acedoh]

I believe it is entirely dead on. Now for those who haven't played Halo and are prepared for one of the best FPS of the year they may have a let down. What is irresponsible by the gaming media is to let on like this is one of the best games. I think this can only go wrong for Halo and even some exclusive 360 owners. Those who want to prop up this game to umpteenth degree. We all know the letdown of GTA IV. This could be an even bigger letdown. Some of you use Heavenly Sword as an example. I think the same could be said of many of the low scores it received. I did not think the game was worth it. $60 for a game with only a 4 hour campaign is outrageous no matter how you try to defend it. Yes there is online but more should be expected. GTA IV was a letdown but it still took many hours to play thru the single player campaign. In a few short weeks I believe there will be many unhappy customers. This will only play into the hands of SONY.

[zeeshan]

The picture says it all :)

[XBLGT B1GMACNFR1ES]

GO TO THIS WEBSITE http://www.shopto.net/XBOX%... cheap prices fast delivery. i get my odst tomoro £29.85

[RockmanII7]

"Firefight is a worse version of Horde"

Oh well since you've played Firefight, might I ask what is wrong with it? It looks like a ton of fun, but I'm interested on how you think it could be improved.

[rogimusprime]

Horde mode in Gears 2 has matchmaking. Halo ODST doesn't. I was on the fence about buying this game until I read how COOL FIREFIGHT WAS....until i realized there was no matching.

If you have tons of friends on LIVE, no problem, but you will still have to call them up or invite them to your party for a decent firefight match unless you plan on going it alone. At least with HORDE mode you could MAKE friends by enduring 50 rounds carnage together at 3am.

I'm 27 and work 10 hour days.... I don't have time to wait for people to get online so I can play firefight.

I LOVE the halo franchise, I read every book out there. (good novels btw). But I'm not dropping 65$ (I live in LA and tax is crazy here) on a chance to play as sgt. Johnson and a Reach beta invite. After what M$ did with the GTA downloadable content schedule, I just can trust "EARLY 2010".

I will say the map packs are a good add, since I didn't buy any of the HALO 3 maps. For people who DID purchase them, I would imagine they are feeling cheated right now.

Don't get me wrong, I still can't wait to play ODST...I just don't want to pay for it.

[Bereaver]

Whoever is mentioning games like Heavenly Sword, please, GTFO! Because you have no clue what you're talking about!

Heavenly Sword isn't a sequel, all of it's design, graphics, models, and everything else were developed at FULL COST! They didn't get to cut corners and take models from another game.

BUT, while everyone is debating this and not knowing anything, we have ODST! ODST uses an engine that is atleast 2 years old.

How much money do you think it took to make Halo 3? A good chunk!
But how much money do you think it will take to make ODST?

Think about it! They even finished it back in March.

You're paying $60 for a game that was developed for almost nothing!

THIS IS MICROSOFT MONOPOLIZING BUNGIE!!!!

CAN YOU NOT SEE?!?!?!?!!

~EDIT~

Do you know, I would say the same thing about Batman or Killzone or any other game which appears to have took a long time in development.

If they were able to make the game without much trouble and time, I wouldn't agree with a $60 price tag.

[a_squirrel]

I want to know why Motorstorm 2 got low ratings, because it was 'not new' just improved...

Yeah right

[IaMs12]

I agree the price is the problem, It may as well get a 9 but the price is killing it. I mean Bungie went in as merely an expansion but came out with a whole lot more. Which is great but not enough to jack it up to $60. I do not consider this a full retail game but if its worth a 9 ill give it a 9.

[RockmanII7]

Yea, I see where your coming from. I have 67 friends with about 20 of them online at a time plus I already have a 'firefight team', if you will. I might be hostile because I love the Halo Franchise, the amount of games I've played shows that (5,656 games played, 42 of which are campaign).

[BWS1982]

This comment isn't aimed at HS's content or quality (because I loved it) but you have to remember that not all regions or countries had it as a Greatest Hits...It's STILL full release price here in the US at most places, and maybe it is elsewhere too. The Greatest Hits list varies by territory, just keep that in mind. :)

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

The above is meant as a general statement not directly to the people below.

@mastiffchild

It might be 20 pounds in the UK, but it is still $40+ in the US. I got it on sale on black friday at amazon.com, but since has not seen it that low.

@gaffy 1.7
Yet, you get all of the map packs in the multiplayer + firefight + a campaign. I know of plenty of games that are far worse value, yet the vast majority will spend way more time in it than any other game. How is that for value?

I guess, if you have no interrest in the game in the first place then there is no value no matter how good or replayable the game is.

@topdawg122
I think it was decent value, not because of the of the story, motion capture, facial animations and voice acting. It is the game play first and foremost.

To me, value is if the game is good enough for me to keep coming back. HS was not it! It had fairly poor and choppy game play. It's only redeeming quality is the production value. I guess if you value that over game play, it was an excellent game otherwise it was just but slightly above average.

[morganfell]

Heavenly Sword is epic. Crafted game making like that still eludes most developers. When I played through Heavenly Sword I had heard stories about the campaign so I timed it. I cut out breaks and even trips to the fridge. It took 11 hours and 33 minutes for me to beat Heavenly Sword. By comparison it took just over 10.5 to beat HALO 3.

Consider that Bioshock can be beaten in 11 hours and no one complained about that. It all depends on how much you explore either game but HS was not the short game some made it out to be.

Two games that year were targeted for a systematic attack. One was Heavenly Sword and the other was Uncharted. Uncharted is to date simply the best adventure game on any platform, period.

[Zedux]

you mean Eurogamer Portugal because the well spoken Italians i.e. Eurogamer Italia showed this DLC's true face i.e. 6/10!!!

[Shadowolf]

Correct, Eurogamer Potugal exactly.

[Berserk1]

IS THAT GAYlo 3: ODST SUCK BIG TIME.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

They'll lose their jobs otherwise. See Gerstmanngate scandal.

Anyway, we all know Halo 3 STD sucks regardless of what you want to think about reviews. It has a ahort campaign, sh1tty graphics, generic gameplay, old rehashed content, too expensive... yeah, whoever gave this piece of garbage a 9 was either paid or a fanboy. The only good thing about the game seems to be the recycled soundtrack and the brand. Who likes the Halo universe anyway? It's a story for children, morons.

Anyway, I've never really believed the scores that the press has given any halo game, but if comparisons serve for a more objective judgment, you can pretty much tell that ODST is the worst halo ever made of all that have come out. Considering the main titles in the Halo series range from mediocre to average, this new installment of the franchise is probably a crapfest.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

All that is missing is a Few Hateful PS3 Stories on this today and then it would feel like the old-days.

+ Will 'Halo 3:ODST' save the xBox 360???...Hmm...NOPE!!! ;-D

[ambientFLIER]

1 full page of Halo...and no ps3 articles in sight...aah, that's the way it should be

[DK_Kithuni_71]

from Microsoft you should all be ashamed of yourself. Microsoft makes billions, you get screwed! You just keep playing the same sh!t over and over again.

You know where the good games are. Right? PS3 - "It Only Does Everything"

[EpicGamerSwordsman]

Definately NOT Worth the 60$ & Not even close to being a GOTY Contender.

[PostApocalyptic]

87.36% on gamerankings
85 on metacritic

:D

[Omega4]

The game was made in 14 months by a small group at Bungie, its good enough for what it is. If MS didnt overcharge for it, it would look even better of a deal than it already does. But after how well HaloWars, a console RTS did do you seriously believe MS wouldnt take this opportunity to make some serious £££, MS knows Halo sells HaloWars showed that.

But im not complaining i got this game for £27 instead of £50, plus even though the game was full priced unlike most new 360 games this one was, for some strange reason, extremely easy to find cheap.

[mrv321]

Is it really fair to give excuses? I mean I doesn't matter if it's made in 14 months or a small team at bunjie, the game costs $60 and you should judge the game itself.

The small team at bunjie do deserve praise but the game itself it was should be judged.

[DAVID BRENT]

for a expansion that is from all reviews ive read......5 hours long,3 new multiplayer maps,questionable A.I. and a 3 year old graphics engine all charged at $60!of course like the article says questions will be asked as to how and why some sites gave it a 9

[Omega4]

@mrv321
I do think the time it took to make and the team should be considered cause look at Too Human that game was knocked like crazy for being delayed for 10 years and if you completed GTAIV and saw the credits and the crazy amount of people involved its no surprise it was such a high quality game (even if it was repetitive).

@DAVID BRENT
As long as the game is fun graphics and so on shouldnt matter and 6 hours is pretty long for an expansion especially when compared to COD4's length

[mrv321]

I personally think a game should hold up on it's own and the only thing that should be considered is it's price and the game instelf, no game should get sympathy treatment.

Halo 3:ODST is basically Halo 3 GOTY for twice the cost. 5 hours isn't very long for basically a singleplayer only game, Firefight as side.

After we remove the Halo 3 multiplayer(which most of us have) we are left with Firefight which has no lobby and a 5 hour singleplayer is that really worth $60?

[DAVID BRENT]

multiplats were piss poor,now your saying graphics dont matter? for 5 hours at $60 graphics sure as hell do matter

[Omega4]

Im sorry but its completely unfair to say your just paying for the single player what about the people who HAVEN'T brought Halo 3 at all. To have the whole H3 multiplayer plus every map, plus firefight and a single player mode $60 is an absolute bargain, it seems that everyone assumes you need to have played Halo 3 to play ODST which is ridiculous and like i said unfair.

[Rhythmattic]

Omega4

What you described is me...

Just bought a Pro, and am playing ODST SP campaign at the moment. (yes, a friend knows someone at games store)

So far, Its, well, Average....

As I posted previously, it has bad Dialogue, average voice talent and a un-immersive story...

But, I wont let that destroy my hope... I believe MP is where its at...

So,if it lives up to the standard all 360 owners yell from the rooftops about, I've got a damn good deal.

If not, I'm sure I'll let you know. However, IMO.

[mrv321]

I bought and own Halo 3 and let's say I own all the map packs, all I'm getting in ODST is a sub standard story, and firefight which doesn't evenhave a lobby system btw. Oh and three maps. Why should I pay $60 for 3 maps, firefight and a 6 hour story seems like a bit much if you ask me.

[y0haN]

Lol Omega, who has a 360 and doesn't have Halo 3? I got it for £6..

It is too expensive. It made more sense as DLC to me. I don't think it looks to be worth the £30 I've found it for, so I'm holding out. Unless a friend tells me it is "fuken awsum." Of course.

[Troll_Police]

To the people who didn't buy Halo 3 this is a great value. But to the people who have bought Halo 3 and the map packs this is a complete rip off.

[dragon82]

@2.4: Having not played the game I can in no way say if it got the score it deserves or not. However, if you really want this game to be judged on its merits alone then you have to judge it as if Halo 3 never existed. Judge it like its a stand alone game. Then You could say that the value has drastically increased right? I still agree about the graphics not being current standards though.

[morganfell]

You can't judge the game as if HALO 3 never existed if you already own HALO 3.

Killzone 2 was attacked for not having co-op. Why? Because other games had co-op. Sorry, but HALO ODST doesn't deserve special treatment by pretending other games do not exist and it doesn't get a pass because Microsoft originally intended it as an add-on and suddenly decided to charge full price.

This just isn't about Microsoft trying to make more money. The biggest reason this game is being pimped as a full blown title is Microsoft is trying to create the perception they have a full blown title to throw at Sony. They don't.

[TrevorPhillips]

I'm really looking forward to the game. The manager at EB Games just called me and told me that there will be a midnight launch for this game tomorrow, so I will be going tomorrow and picking it up along with a Halo Reach beta code :)

I'll be enjoying this game until MW2 comes out.

[Redgehammer]

I am looking forward to it as well.

[darkequitus]

I am set for the rest of the year:

ODST
UC2
MW2 (360)

[y0haN]

Same except I get the better version of MW2 on my PC :)

[STIKUP ARTIST]

same for me.

[X_GAMER_X]

whats wrong with the single player?
did u forget that modern warfare was 5-6 hours?
uncharted the same. Killzone is at 7 hours.
if it was less then what u call full game then I would agree that it dosnt deserve the price tag. But when its on the same league as full games SP mode, Then u better stop calling it expansion. Logic

[thor]

Now I might play games on hard from the outset, but Uncharted & Killzone 2 took me longer than that my first time through.

With ODST I've heard various lengths but usually around 4-5 hours. Modern Warfare WAS criticised for having a short campaign, but the multiplayer made up for it. ODST doesn't really have that crutch; Firefight mode can't really compare to the full MP modes of CoD4.

[NaiNaiNai]

I beat mirrors edge in 45 minutes, I paid 60$ for the game. T_T length means nothing to me.

replay-ability means everything to me, If I didn't play mirrors edge a good 15 times threw, then it would not have been worth the 60$ I laid down.

same goes for this, If I can get 3 play threw on the story, heroic, legendary, normal/heroic for skull hunting. then its worth every penny.

not to mention some of us are getting bored of halo 3, and this seems to have enough added to give it a enough of a twist to last another year or so.

[green]

I bought Bioshock on a friday after work in 07,started playing it Saturday morning and finished the campaign in less than 9 hours.No multiplayer and no desire to replay the game again meant that £39.99 would have gone down the drain if not for the fact that i traded it in the next day at GAME and got £20 for it.

At least with the £29 that amazon is selling ODST in the UK, i get a a slightly shorter campaign than Bioshock,endless replay value with firefight and all the Halo 3 maps that i never bought and also lets not forget access to the Reach Beta.Seems like this will be money well spent.

[Redgehammer]

you know logic and fanboys are not words that typically go together.

[thor]

Yep that price for ODST seems OK.

I don't know why they're pretending that it's a full game, though. It could have got a better reception if they'd just released it as a cheaper expansion. (Though I suppose they make more money this way).

Anyone who's expecting a full Halo game is going to be disappointed.

[NaiNaiNai]

Thor, tell me, Was GT5P worth the 60$ people paid for it?
How about Socom when it first came out.

its all a matter of opinion, both those games were not worth 60$ but people still had no problem with paying it why. because they wanted the games.

what you say here will make no difference.

stop being a so biased and calling it a expansion, If this is a expansion everything by valve is a expansion because they all use the same HL2/DoD engine lately haven't they.

you speak without any type of logic on this subject.

[cellypower]

GT5P was $40 when it came out.

[Dpa]

Sure il take a 5-6 hour campaign for full price if its something I haven't experienced before.

What you have here is a game using a 2 year old engine that was criticised for being below par when it was released then. This game should clearly have been released as DLC and MS are just farming money off the suckers that buy this crap.

Look what Uncharted 2 has done with the original Uncharted engine and compare it to ODST, now you see the problem.

[beavis4play]

i'm removing my comment. there isn't any point to this. halo:odst is over-priced and running a 2 year old engine with no changes. it's not worth it.

[mrv321]

Uncharted 1 is 6 hours? Really?

Each chapter is like 30 minutes and there's 21 chapters. I spent 10 hours completing it and I barely died, it's a long game,

[thor]

I think there will be a lot of people disappointed with ODST's short campaign. To be honest I think the best thing that people can do is to rent it. Rent it for one evening, you'll complete the game, have time to play a few firefight rounds then that's mostly it for new content. This way you get excellent value. If you're considering buying it as a new game there are better options available.

[X_GAMER_X]

I didnt hear ppl got disappointed with BIG FULL GAMES like COD, KZ, UC HV who all of them was like 7 hours SP.
U ppl make me throw up on my screen :D

[thor]

Once again, 7 hours is nearly double 4 hours which will seem short, not to mention the fact that CoD4 was criticised for being short at 6 hours long. 4 hours is even shorter so it's a valid complaint.

Other games come out with a full multiplayer mode to make up for a short campaign. ODST doesn't (unless you don't already own Halo 3).

It's very clear that they've taken an expansion pack, added in some freebies, just so they can charge full price. As a marketing strategy, I applaud it. It's just like "The Orange Box". I wanted Episode 2 and Portal, but I didn't want to buy TF2, nor re-buy HL2 or Episode 1.

[FiftyFourPointTwo]

The truth: It's overrated and it's a FLOP.

[TheOutsider]

IT F*CKEN SUCKS!! LIKE THE OWNERS OF THE SYSTEM YOU PLAY THAT CRAP ON!!!

[TrevorPhillips]

Who ever is disagreeing with me for aboves comment cut the crap out now seriously it's really annoying and childish.

[cyclindk]

Your above comments didn't seem to contain anything antagonistic or negative at all, I'll give you a bubble because some people are being unnecessarily mean :)

[RockmanII7]

The disagree fairy is workin overtime

[cyclindk]

Holy $hit! 10 disagrees, you're infested with disagree fairies!!

Quick, try typing something else, like 'apple.'

[MetalGearRising]

AAA exclusive to xbox360 .

[kevinx1000]

this '$60 DLC' is better than any playstation game i've played so far :) great story and gameplay.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

/s

[ps12&3lover]

1st off ill make this quick so you 2 can continue humping..uncharted 2 is already out performing galo rrodst, its killing galo in reviews..nothing lower than 9.5 so far..and 2 good you know your a$$ is lying..ain't no way that P.O.S add-on is better than any ps3 game this year..how can a 4 hour story be better than our AAA games..and metal gear going to sales like the rest of you fangirls..so galo wars flopped right?? trust me uncharted 2 will sell more and will get reviewed higher..im out 1..losers lol

[dustgavin]

Didn't realize a 8.3 average is considered AAA.

[EpicGamerSwordsman]

An expansion utilizing the same gameplay & Graphics from 2007 is a AAA Quality Game... & The fact the it has recieved AVERAGE Scores from Various Sites.

[crazyturkey]

Watch the latest Invisible Walls on GT, the host asks the other two guys if ODST is worth the $60 and neither actually answered the question.

[LarVanian]

((((From 6.3 ratings which PS3 fanboys are galavanting in from the likes of NowGamer to 9.0 ratings which Xbox 360 fanboys are praising))))

What a great line. Speaks the truth completely lol.

[X_GAMER_X]

I didnt take me long on UN neither killzone. I finishd UC the first day. & hours at max. Killzone 7 hours at max. Maybe u are a noob or u just were looking and wondring how they did make the tree to look like that..that dosnt count :D

Am not here to defend the game( wich am gonna buy the first hour)
but Halo 3 MP is included, wich is beyond awsome.

It Took u more then 6 hours with UC so why bother--

above
am gonna give u my opinion when I play bothe. after a year maybe becuz I will be enjoying the games. :D
and I can beat both in rec time if I want that too.
but I like enjoying my game mate. Not going throu every article and bashing Halo like well..

[thor]

Well we're getting down to details of skill and speed. It's possible to complete many games in under an hour if you speedrun. Halo 3 proper is shorter than 1 1/2 hours in a speedrun. MGS4 can be done in under 3 hours but takes most people 20-30 hours.

The thing is, if game journalists thought that the length of uncharted is just over 8 hours (IGN - check the review) and you completed it in 7, that means that if they think ODST is 4-5 hours, you'll be completing it in 3 1/2.

[topdawg122]

GamerX, you're full of sh*t, UC 6 hours? Admit it, ODST is not worth $60. You get 5hour sp, but apparently you speed run so you'll finish it in 2 and firefight if u don't already own halo3. That's not worth the price

[Karlnag3]

Sorry but it's hard to take you seriously, or even bother to read your comments, because you obviously can't spell and word your sentences in the most retarded ways possible.

On topic.
Halo 3: ODST is not worth it (imo) and the high review scores are obviously just from 360 fanboys. The low ones are obviously from sites/magazines that favour the PS3. So from that I think we can all safely, and logically assume, that the game is mediocre at best. I know I'm not buying it, because MW2, UC2 and AC2 will be worth my time and money. ODST will not.

[beavis4play]

i beat gears in 4 hours. gears2 in 5 hours.......... yea, see? anyone can just MAKE UP playtimes!!!!
dude, you're posts are delusional and laughable at the same time.

[devilhunterx]

Damn man. I bet with your "L33T skillz", you will finish HALO3-OD SP in 30 minutes and the MP in 2 hours.

[STICKzophrenic]

Why are you trolling a game you aren't interested in? Didn't you say you don't do this?

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

Ratchet & Clank : Quest For Booty should have been 60$.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

It has been over rated by the likes of IGN and Eurogamer...

AI = Sloppy and dated
Graphics = Anti Aliasing issues and dated visual
Longevity of campaign = Very short
Game play = No new features to Gameplay elements

[NecrumSlavery]

so every halo fanboy who has already purchased all the map packs are getting stiffed out of $25 now and no one reports that? half these reviews are "it's halo so is perfect." i expected ball licking reviews from sites the G4(M$ sponsored 360 wang blowers), but not US IGN. The average reviews around an 8.0 is more accurate for the people who kind of want to get into halo 3. but for the fans of halo3, who owned all the maps, and really dig the universe, M$ took your DLC and added the maps you own, and didn't improve anything on graphics, AI, gameplay, story, or length, just added a horde rippoff(since gears is looking to leave the crapbox, they need to ripoff another idea), and slapped a $60 F U Price tag. the fans should be more pissed than anyone else. Microsoft just screwed you out of $60 for a 4-6 hour game. die hardcore halo 3 gamers should rate this scam a 6/10.

[DK_Kithuni_71]

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[Morbid Bulldozer]

In Europe, ODST is actually 40$ (around 42$ to be precise).

[Sangria]

In France, it's 50€, which represents 74$.

[Decerto]

Yeah it is. GameStop got great deals in Scandinavia. We're paying like 40$ for this game.

And with all this content plus Halo 3 Mythic with all the mappacks, this deal is f'ing great.

[Montrealien]

while exchanging the currency is fun and all, It would be good to remind people that if someone makes 1000$ in NA for a certain job, they will make around 1000 Euro in France for the same job. So the value of your money comes to about the same. Sure, if you come and buy it here with the exchange it will be cheaper, but in a way, that is irrelevent to some guy going to buy a game for 50 euro compared to the guy buying it for 79$ canadian tax included. To them that 50 euro and 79$ canadian has about the same value.

[vagisil]

it makes the sony fanboys scream sh1ts!!

[MetalGearRising]

Looking forward to see how well Uncharted 2 does against a DLC if it can't beat a DLC in sales its a Disgrace and a Flop.

[Decerto]

/agreed

Have a bubble.

[CernaML]

But but but teh sales!!!

Quality > Quantity. How many times must that go through your thick heads? Microsoft really have you suckers reeled in.

[dustgavin]

"Looking forward to see how well Uncharted 2 does against a DLC if it can't beat a DLC in sales its a Disgrace and a Flop."

So, you admit that you are being ripped off by Microsoft passing this DLC as a full game? Niiiice.

[EpicGamerSwordsman]

Sales makes a great game, You must think Wii Fit is the Best game of All Time if you judge by Sales.

[stonecold3]

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffflll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooop ppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp of 2009

[X_GAMER_X]

he wrote( To be honest I think the best thing that people can do is to rent it. Rent it for one evening)

I didnt think u were so childish.
Are u scared that ODST will sell alot?
do u even owe and 360?
let the ppl be. while I dont think they are gonna listen 2 ya but u r just making fool out of ur self.
invest ur words and time in somthing wise. go wait for UC2 and open ur mouth and start wondring how they made the tree to look like this.

all of us gonna buy it and enjoy it. and with it and COD MW2 will trump every ps3 exclusie. if u didnt know( money counts to every developer.. ASk Nina theory ) ;)

answer me this Thor..Why did COD MW ONE sell more the The most hyped ps3 game ever ( KZ2)

he thinks :D

[thor]

I don't know or care to be honest.

IMO, CoD4 is good but overrated. KZ2 > CoD4. I got bored of CoD4 after about 50 hours play.

You're the one being childish turning this into some kind of fanboy argument.

I'm merely saying that for the new content you get, on the tried and trusted rating scale of Buy It/Rent It/Leave It it's probably in the middle. Simply because the multiplayer element is effectively the same as Halo 3's. Most campaigns get old after the first playthrough. Then it all depends on how much you want to play skirmish, but it's not like skirmish can even equate to a full multiplayer mode of a full game.

[Redgehammer]

I wouldn't listen to anyone on N4G for anything (safer that way).

[beavis4play]

because you write and make up things just like a child.

[tripewire]

best article so far.

site bookmarked.

[ps12&3lover]

ABOUT MY CAPS YESTURDAY..ARE YOU REALLY A 10 YEAR OLD FANGIRL NERD THAT GETS SCARED WHEN SOMEONE USES CAPS..WOW SO THE FVKING LETTERS ARE HALF AN INCH BIGGER WITH CAPS AND THAT BOTHERS YOU LMAO...YOU NERDS MAKE ME LUAGH...GET A LIFE..IM OUT 1

[dodo101]

Ok i don't like halo but doesn't say it's a bad game.
but what's the point of these fanboy comments?

[LTC]

as most main MS paid sites have reviewed the game. Now smaller independant sites will give this a more honest review.

Its sad that Killzone 2 was slated by some sites for not being innovative and doing anything new, yet the same sites gave this POS a free pass (C&VG).

MS have ruined gaming.

[RowSand]

only 4-5 hours of story gameplay, weak story, same retard graphic engine as gaylo 3. overall game feels old and outdate, bungie only care for the money and 60(400 kr) doller not worth poor xbots still going to buy this last gen game rofl . i know this cos.. in norway some store already selling this game, one of my friend(xbot) bought it beat it and returned only 4-5 hours sp? wtf!!?

[Steyene]

Wait, how did he return it? Did he undownload it and get his bandwidth and dvd back or something? As you know it isn't actually out yet.

[PLAYstar]

Enough said ... I think reviewers are just closing one eye from seeing the truth of the highest degree that other games reached. They review Halo like it was the first game ever made and completely ditch the likes of games that have better design,gameplay,presentation & sound effect that ODST did not deliver to that extent of receiving such scores. It was obvious inferior, but money talk.

[taylor35]

i love halo games so i`ll buy it.

what stops this site being any good is to many gay fanboys,
if it was me i`ll ban the lot of you.

[iron]

don't forget to ban some of the moderators also. Some of them are extreme PS3 fanboys.

[OlvaR]

i really don't understand the ps3 fanboys rage on odst...odst took me 10-12 ours on legendary when i managed to finished killzone 2 in 8 hours...and at least odst has co-op campaign so i can play again with friends...don't get me wrong on killzone 2, it was a pretty intense game but nothing special...and i didn't have to wait for odst 5 years...and not to mention the overall story and other staff....

[Midgard228]

u cant count 10-12 hours of play time on legendary, thats like comparing 5-6 hours of normal difficulty of ninja gaiden and 20-35 hours of beating NG on master ninja.

if ur playing it on basically one hit kill mode ur dying, ALOT so thats cud almost dble play time, most people will only play thru normal settings which is 4-5 hours, i beat halo 3 in that amount of time so since everyone says odst is shorter theres no way its naturally 10+ hours on normal

[bjornbear]

Its all for fans...I just disagree that reviewers should be giving 9/10 "is you're a fan"

I'm getting the impression the biggest Halo fan is rating the game, and if u ask me, it shouldn't be the biggest halo fan in the office...thats usually a sign of lack of objectivity =/ oh well, enjoy =)

[Midgard228]

know y the websites had to give it a 9/10? because its halo, the reason they had to pass the horrible graphics on the human characters is cuz its halo.

its also the reason y it being so freakin short was passed aswell.

reason they passed the replayablity being only firefight mode is cuz its halo, come on u dont need the 2nd disc, 90% of the maps are free on live anyway sept for the mythic set and the new 3 maps (mythic set sux bad)

if any named website wud have given it a low score they wud get tons and tons of hate mail, heck they might even burn ign down, but they didnt have to worry because ign are halo fanboys anyway.

dont get me wrong, im a halo fanboy too, i have a halo 360, got my 360 only for halo 3 and NG2 and the other exclusives that were timed.... but besided that, i paid for 1 yr of live just to play halo online. odst's multiplayer is exactly the same, only a fool wud expect it to be different.

but even tho im a halo fan doesnt mean im gonna pay 60$ for a short campaign when i cud pay 5$ to rent it and beat it same day also downloading the maps if i needed too.

but extreme fans wud probably pay 100$ for a halo title maybe even more just cuz its halo. its sorta sad, its only reason MS doubled the price

[STICKzophrenic]

Uncharted, single player only, $60 at launch.
inFamous, single player only, $60 at launch.
Heavenly Sword, single player only, $60 at launch.
Bioshock, single player only, $60 at launch.
Mass Effect, single player only, $60 at launch.
Dead Space, single player only, $60 at launch.

Halo 3: ODST, single player campaign, three new Halo 3 MP maps, Firefight mode and access to the Halo: Reach beta.

The campaign will get numerous playthroughs...some by myself, some co-op. Firefight will get a lot of playtime. The new Halo 3 maps will get some good playtime. The Reach beta will get played a lot. Yep, it's worth $60 to ME.

Value is in the hands of the player.

[Midgard228]

i mean people were idiots and paid 60$ for army of two which was....2-3 hours max?

only prob is that u mentioned those single player games not mentioning how long they were.

1st take into account they r a new IP, almost automatic worth 60$ aslong as its not under 5 hours long.

2nd some games like mass effect and infamous have massive replayablity, infamous u can play both stories, see both sets of powers leading to even 25-30 hours of game time, and mass effect and bioshock are rpgs so i wont bother explaining, u know its long.

odst's only prob to me was its short and not a new game, if it was halo reach then WOOOT!, but its not so frown :(. no new vehicles or weapons for multiplayer, and i'll try firefight but honestly i only like fighting players in halo, the AI is moronic in personality and combat abilty, unless its legendary and almost 1 hit kills so doubt for me atleast that firefight will be fun

and wat i think set everyone off is the fact that it was priced 30$ in the begining, no company shud EVER price their game before its out unless its at 60 or it wont change, i think the price increase is everyones prob

but as u say to each his own, its our money we do wat we want with it, for me, its renting odst then buying demon souls next week :)

P.S i didnt disagree wit u

[OlvaR]

well i must asure you that i'm a pretty good halo player, i don't die alot on sigle player. also other players who played on heroic (its actually the proper halo-difficulty as bungie says). i have friends who finished on heroic in 10 hours. i agree that as the difficulty goes up so does the hours of gameplay, i don't count normal and easy because i realy do not see the challenge comming, and i really don't thing you should count hours of gameplay in a difficulty that tells you that it won't get your brain started.

i don't dissagree with you but, normal-easy are not the proper halo difficultys, heroic is the proper and legendary for a more chalenging campaign, and yes odst is at least 10 hours of gameplay on that difficultys (including searching for the substory of course).

and about the price, i really don't give a flying sh1t. i payed for sh1tty games before with the same price, i don't bother paying 45euros for a game that deserves my time such as odst even if its not 100% new halo.

+bubbles for the nice logical talk. its rare these days in n4g

[Midgard228]

makes sense when u say it that way, most of us have wasted money on a game we absolutley hate or no it wasnt worth it. "Wet, army of too short, and bunch others" so aslong as u enjoy it i guess a person is fine.

tho thats why im super picky these days and i rent alot (i rent for free because i work at gamecrazy) but i check reviews, playtime length and replayablity before i buy a game.

well said arguement, heheh yeah normal mode isnt a challenge at all

bubbles for good arguement, as u said rare for a normal non bashing arguement lol

[Cajun Chicken]

Last time I played an expansion pack on a console (which wasn't actually an expansion pack but full game) which took 4-6 hours to complete was called Ratchet and Clank; Quest for Booty and it was about £14 not £30 with a multiplayer mode which is exactly the same as on a game which came out 2 years ago.

I'd just thought I'd point that out.

[SPANKYERAZZ]

ok. The Nowgamer journalist who gave ODST 6.3 Dan Howdle , who this site refers to as a ps3 fanboy , is by no means such. Where is your evidence ? Is it his 50,000 microsoft gamer points on his ms gamercard that some numpty mistakenly thought was a Sony one ? Or is it because he dared to be honest about a 360 game ? As a professional games journalist for imagine publishing ( they make nearly all magazines in the uk ) should . Please stick to facts as he did in his review, abeit with an element of humour, but thats Dan.

[JonnyBigBoss]

I don't see why they didn't just go with a $39.99 price tag. It would be a HOT contender right now.

[Ragnarok]

For those of you that beat games faster than the "average gamer":

You are a special breed that is truly gifted when it comes to dominating a game. However... there are MANY people that play games at their own leisure or have busy lives that require playing a game in many sittings. I'm pretty sure claims of playing through Uncharted in 6 hours a completely off base. I have played through it 3 times and it is NOT a 6 hour game.

If someone TRULY has played through it in 6 hours, then you are obviously not ENJOYING the game. Sounds like you are purposely burning through them to brag, but not to experience them fully. Slow down and enjoy your hard earned/spent cash.

Is this really gaming anymore?

[Aloren]

It's close to reaching 50000° on N4G, and it wouldn't have reached 30 000 without PS3 fanboys.

[jax07]

You guys want to know if Halo is as good as its dedicated fanbase say it is? Do this, find a friend that has Halo (any of them really) or if you have your own copy and a 360 go a get a friend that has never played it and let them play it for about a week if you can part with it that long. Also let them borrow another shooter of your choice and let them play both games for the time you let them borrow it and have them tell you which is better. I bet it wont be Halo. So far 13 people have chosen Perfect Dark over Halo because those are the only two 360 shooters my freind has to lend. No we didnt let them borrow it for a week though.

[FACTUAL evidence]

HEHE, reason why they put a 60$ price tag on that game is because it says "HALO"...duh! They know the fanboys are going to shell out 60$ no matter what. If you don't like the price don't buy it...or rent it...What are you gunna do about it? Boycott it? lmao, well have fun with halo 3: revised.

[Digitaldude]

This is exactly the reason why, so i hope consumers are smart enough to realize this!

[AsILayDying]

Yes the game's engine is dated, but everything else is great, once again PS3 fanboys slam HALO, because all they have FPS wise on PS3 is Gayzone 2, and that is crap.
HALO 3:ODST 9/10 .

[silkrevolver]

somebody is a little touchy because people don't like a single game on his beloved console. Boo-hoo, get over it. It's not worth $60 if you already have Halo 3, more like, I don't know, what it was ORIGINALLY priced at. Microsoft got greedy, and decided to make more money, whatever....it will sell well and it was most likely a good move. I don't care how high or low it reviews, I'm just going to rent it, and beat in in a day or two.

[360_Rules]

All you stupid droids make me laugh! Halo 3: ODST is better then Killzone 2! Hahahhahaha I guess the review from Eurogamer got it right
Flopzone 2 is a 7 game and a Flop! Halo 3: ODST does have better MP then any PS3 game out now! You Dumbsh@t droids think Uncharted 2 MP is going to be even close to COD or Halo 3? Hahahhahahahahahahahhahaha!!!! !

[Pootangpie]

in the meantime would you like Sony to hire a butler to come to your house and whip your ass for you I mean the PS3 does everything right? Btw did you know if the PS3 fell into the wrong hands such as the legion of doom Lex luther and his minons could harness the power of the PS3 to become gods of the universe Seriosuly Sony said so the superfriends wouldn't even stand a chance against that kind of power

[The BS Police]

Halo 3: ODST
Left 4 dead 2
Perfect Dark (XBLA)

Next year...

Splinter Cell: Conviction
Mass Effect 2
Halo: Reach
Aliens: Colonial Marines

[PS3fanboy1100]

some say its the gamer that judges the game for themselves. As they play it through to see for themselves what likes and dislikes they have on the game.... But for a professional reviewer to say its a definite 9/10 is outrageous. They didn't factor in the graphics, the length of the SP campaign, the bad voice acting, and bad A.I..Also the pricing for DLC intended for $30 then winding up with $60 is plain stupid.

[LoydX-mas]

But your name alone discredits you from having an unbiased opinion.

[Digitaldude]

After reading so many reviews, i am still not convinced that its worth its price tag yet it got scores of 9.0
From reading the reviews it doesn't deserve its score, i reckon the hypes got to do with it, if it wasn't a halo game, i wonder what averages would it have gotten oh well i won't be buying it.

[no_more_trolling]

i love the smell of halo hate in the morning

wake me right up lol

why do people who claim that they have no interest in halo odst, they are the ones in all the halo odst threads lol

its just too ironic