Wiispace.com Reviews Halo 3: ODST

Kyle Fletcher writes, "Millions of people are looking forward to the upcoming game from Bungie, Halo 3: ODST. In ODST you mainly play as The Rookie, and Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. In the opening sequence, you and your squad are preparing to drop into battle, when all of a sudden something goes wrong. You and your squad are all separated upon crash landing on New Mombasa. Throughout the game, you, as the Rookie are walking around trying to find clues as to what happened to your fellow ODSTs. Whenever you find one of these clues, which are bright yellow in the VISR, you go to a short clip of said person, and then jump into the person's body and play through what you just saw in the clip. And that's basically the game. You're going around learning about what happened to all your squad mates after the crash landing on New Mombasa."

[Ichiryoka]

I'm not sure if this is legit...I'm really not. If not then sorry for posting it. I saw someone link it and was wondering why it was not up, soooo... I submitted it. It looks legit... umm...if not We'll just take it down in due time.

Edit: Yeah I noticed the sites name, and I even looked around a bit in there. They actually cover news on all systems and whatnot, but...I'm still not sure yet.

[Jamie Foxx]

..

[wxer]

so
this is the 2nd review that says the same thing
FLOP

[Pandemic]

LOL, they gave this game a good score.
/sarcasm

Although anything that has Halo in it will sell well.....

[Megan Fox]

@ wxer

"so
this is the 2nd review that says the same thing
FLOP "

Yeah. this one been from a Wii site and the other one from a website that is an Open Content Network. Not too legit if you ask me.

@ below

both reviews come from questionable site, no, let me put this better, one comes from a questionable site (Wiispace) and the first review came from an Open Content Network (Associate Content) in other words a blog. Again not to legit if you ask me.

@ below

what spin, i guess that the word people use now when they dont have anything to say.

[Filet of Children]

Yeah, I call shenanigoats on this review.

When you look at the site's name, then look at how it contradicts itself ('It feels different, you're slower, you can't jump as high; But it's exactly the same as Halo 3!'), the article just leaves a foul taste...

I'm not saying whether the game is good or bad, I haven't played it yet. Just that this is a rubbish review.

[SnuggleBandit]

ouch!!!

[HolyOrangeCows]

They review plenty of other stuff without bias
and
the diction sounds correct.

I think they over reacted a little to the short length, but it seems legit to me.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Fantastic score.

:)

[HolyOrangeCows]

''Welcome to Wiispace.com, a great place for all your gaming needs and information from around the industry. Our title may have the word Wii in it, but rest assured we are a multi-platform gaming community''

[tuglu_pati]

This review is poorly writen, when you got sentences like this one,

"I noticed that my friend’s TV made it a lot darker than my TV did."

makes you wonder if this was written by a professional or a random kid who downloaded the game illegally.

[mythamp]

This game, will honestly destroy the brand that is HALO, HALO wars was pretty bad, and when the mass start playing this one, they will always think twice before falling for the "HALO" trick.

This is really sad, I blame MS for this, they over did this title, I honestly loved playing Halo 1, 2 and 3, but it has become reckless now.

this is painful to see.

Oh and I honestly hated the Live action Ad for this, it almost seemed like it was made by 2 18yr olds who know how to work well with 3D animation softwares. It looked low budget and amature-ish.

@Bleem360: ODST can be easily found in torrent sites. Who needs MS to send them a legit "copy"

[Bleem360]

MS do not send review copies to Wii sites, let alone blogs.

I call this BS - i'll wait for reviews from a reliable source.

Poor show whoever submitted this garbage!

[Multi-Console Owner]

I always question a review from a no-name website, especially when the review comes out way before any trusted source. I also doubt MS sent out a review copy to some no-name site earlier than IGN. It's the same for PS3 games.

I'll believe a particularly high or low score from IGN, GameSpot or GameTrailers but not from some no-name site before the trusted sources post their reviews. Very early reviews with surprisingly high or low review scores like this are almost always for just hits.

Remember the fake KillZone 2 review that came out like a month before any other real reviews? The one that was only forged to bring down KZ2's hype and reviews metascore. I just checked that site and they have an article titled "Exclusive KZ2 Cutscene" and it's just an embedded YouTube video LOL! Exclusive indeed...

I'm sure all the 360 fanboys will defend ODST with "This is a no-name site who just wants hits!" but then if Uncharted 2 get a low score from a site like this they'll say "A review is a review!".

I'm sure by the end of tomorrow, every comment on this article will have an equal amount of agrees and disagrees. This will happen due to the 360 fans coming to see how their anticipated game is and the PS3 fanboys coming to see whether or not they can flame the article. I'm not biased toward either console, but that's the way things work here on N4G. It's the same in both PS3 and 360 review articles. Fans of one side go to see how a game on their console scores and fanBOYS of the other console come to flame it.

@ tuglu_pati below

I agree. I don't trust some guy who downloaded an illegal copy (If that's the case) either. It's hard to tell if someone REALLY played the game since reviews don't include plot spoilers. You can't tell if the person is just pretending to review the game and is basing all of the material off of the same trailers everyone else has seen. You can't look back and say they got the ending wrong since they don't post story stuff like that.

[tuglu_pati]

@ mythamp

"@Bleem360: ODST can be easily found in torrent sites. Who needs MS to send them a legit "copy""

In that case how could you take seriously a review from a website that downloaded the game illegally?

[mythamp]

I am not saying I trust this review, it was well written and all that.

I consider this review, as an opinion just like any other in this board. I have seen this game being played LIVE, and I just dont want everyone here to have high hopes about it. It isnt that AWESOME.

[Multi-Console Owner]

The reviewer listed these in the pros and cons section:

Under Pros: "I also like the fact that Bungie separated us from Master Chief. It certainly makes the whole game different, but in a good way. It adds to a new feel, being that you can’t jump as high, you do have a health bar, and that you’re not as strong as John 117."

Under Cons: "They did nothing to change the gameplay. It feels the exact same way that Halo 3 did. I think that if they are going to charge buyers $60, that the buyers should at least get some kind of change in gameplay."

So at first he said the game is entirely different from Halo 3, then he says it's exactly the same.

Also under The Ugly he says: "There are glitches everywhere in Halo 3: ODST. I noticed a lot of glitches when sniping and when walking around with a squad mate. When sniping, a lot of the time, the bullet wouldn’t do anything to my unfortunate target."

Those are some of the EXACT same glitches as the illegal leaked torrent version! The torrent version has those glitches but I doubt Bungie and MS would release a game that has incredibly obvious glitch like that so I'm sure the legit copies won't have glitches like that. Sounds like this is a review for an illegal copy.

This review's integrity is a little fishy due to it's relatively early release, poorly written material and is probably a review of an unofficial illegal copy.

Also, WiiSpace.com is a pretty dumb name for a site that covers all consoles.

I think I'm gonna make a site named 360zone.com and cover all three consoles :/

[u got owned]

@ mythamp

"I have seen this game being played LIVE, and I just dont want everyone here to have high hopes about it. It isnt that AWESOME. "

judging by your comment history i would say your opinion is a little bias... dont you think?

[Multi-Console Owner]

"But all in all, it’s not a terrible game, but it’s just not worth the $60 price tag that it carries."

So that warrants a review score that a terrible game would receive?

Mirror's Edge was good but incredibly short and it didn't have online or anything so most reviewers gave it 7-ish due to it's length. ODST seems similar according to this reviewer. ODST, like Mirror's Edge, is short but still pretty good so it should get a "Decent/Good" score 3/5, not a "Bad" score of 2/5. I'm not saying ODST is great or awful, I'm just saying that a solid game (according to the reviewer) shouldn't get a score that a bad game would warrant.

@ mythamp below

This is N4G, if you say the slightest thing bad about one console, you're a apparently a crazy fanboy of the other console. I'm not biased towards either console, but I have my gripes about each of them and I get called a [insert other console here] fanboy if I type out one of my complaints.

[mythamp]

@ u got owned
I have never dissed HALO or Gears of War. These two I love and respect. Other than that, I am slightly PS3 biased but still thoughtful and not a bot/fanboy. I am biased towards the PS3 as I personally believe it has the superior hardware (not cause it hazz all da gamezzz, and all the childish stuff).

[Game13a13y]

apparantly, many reviewers think 60 bones are too much for this "expansion map pack"

[DARK WITNESS]

@ Multi-Console Owner

Well said man, I totally agree with you .

[Multi-Console Owner]

Glad to hear it! I like to voice my opinion and since I have nothing better to do late at night, I usually I come on here and mingle for a while which usually "includes, but is not limited to," very long comments and a lot of them. I come on during the day too, but since I have other stuff to do I usually only post like one short comment. I'm definitely coming back to this tomorrow! Fireworks! I only have 1 bubble left to contribute to this article later today :'(

On Topic: Does anyone know when the review embargo for ODST is up? I mean actually know, not "probably sometime next week". I'm very interested to see how IGN reviews this and how they view the so-called "value" of the included maps since the hardcore Halo fans already bought $30 worth of maps for this. I guess it's a good value for new Halo fans since they won't have already bought the multiplayer maps, but it's a terrible value for the old Halo fans. All of my 360 fans already have the map packs so the only extra thing ODST gives them is the one yet to be released map pack. If my math is correct, $30+$10 does not equal $60.

I see IGN saying "The campaign is short and fun, and firefight will keep you coming back time and time again, but there's really not much else here for veteran Halo players." and giving it a safe 8.0.

[morganfell]

"This review is poorly writen, when you got sentences like this one,"

Oh cold and heartless irony thou art cruel indeed.

Self pwnage is priceless.

2/5. I guess people are screaming. Why? Oh that is right, numbers posted by other people whether they are industry or personal opinion matter.

360 owners, take a hard lesson from PS3 gamers, numbers do not matter. The knowledge that you hold, the experience that you have matters more than anything.

The assurance that you have the best piece of hardware offering a superior gaming experience, and the realization the title you are gaming rocks the house are infinitely more important than what any one or number of people have to say.

Of course you can only honestly feel that way if you own a PS3 but still, I am just saying...

[The-Warranty]

LOL

[II Necroplasm II]

It's funny how these 2 no name sites has gotten a review copy of the game so early.

[mastiffchild]

Yeou're right DW. Thing is what's gonna happen when MW2 does sell as well as COD4 in the UK? As it stands we aren't being asked, ny retailers, for the extra, BUT you can bet that Acti will be making the extra regardless with the retailers hoping(those selling cheaper) to up their profits by selling more than other retailers even though they're having to pay more to get ther copies to sell.

All that's happening when Tesco sell for £39 is they hope to recoup what they lose on the margins by selling other stuf or more copies of the game-are Acti going to see this and stop a worlwide rise? No! and will the retailer keep sucking it up? No! It's almost a fait accompli by Activision. They know the game will sell so well retailers NEED it but when they show the board the salesof the "premium" priced game they'll just send them ALL out like that and the general price of everything might well rise!

Maybe I'm missing something but as a UK gamer I qwon't get it and support the rise , however it's covered, as right now I fail to see how Acti won't get what they want if we all do. Catch 22?

EDIT:should be a reply to 3.12, D'oh!

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

I would say smaller site are just as credible as bigger ones because they are more free to give out their unbiased opinion. Its kind of hard to be unbiased when you run ODST adds on your site(IGN)

[gamerdude11]

These click generating reviews should not be allowed. I'm not really interested in ODST but I know that the engine + Bungie + Halo is going to be much better than a 2/5. These shameless reviews should be banned. The only reason I write this is because I know that some one off site is going to post a 2/5 for Uncharted for the same reasons. If you are a fan of gaming, you should boycott BS sites like this.

[Blaze929]

Really?....from a Nintendo site? *sigh*

Just wait till the embargo is released so we can finally see some REAL reviews.

You can tell just by reading this they didnt even play the game. Probably dont even own it. Just based a review off already known facts. There is so much detail lacking its so transparent.

[rinsedog]

The gameplay is good but thats about it,story meh..graphics blah..voice acting decent. How do I know this? Played it. Friends house. Not impressed but, soon enough you will all see for yourself. $60(mmm nahh)

[edgeofblade]

Glitches? This makes me worry a little.

As long as the gameplay is that trademark Halo gameplay, I'll be happy.

[Poopface the 2nd]

So far two reviews from sites noone has ever heard of. Im sure taht these guy got their copy of halo before the real sites that people have actually heard of.

With the name wiispace I couldnt care less about their opinion of a 360 game. Also its a freaken blog that Ive never heard of ever.

I dont care about reviews or ODST really, but its funny some no name blog gives it a crappy review before any real site has given a review. Also its a wii site, regardless of what they wannt tell you. Its wiispace.com and some noname blog site with a review by someone whos primary console is a freaken wii. HAHAHAHHA nintendo fanboy maybe looking for hits to his no name blog.

[da720izcumin]

N4G SMH!!!
all the sony fanboys are joyous, hoping and wishing, too bad this game is actually better than any other ps3 exclusive this year.
you stay classy, n4g.

[The Lazy One]

That's supposed to be one of the most interesting parts of the game when you hear about ODST. It's barely mentioned (if at all... can't remember).

It also comes with enough multiplayer stuff added in to be worth half the price before the campaign and firefight are brought up.

[nightfallfilms]

Did anyone else notice that all there other reviews are on a 10 point scale this one was on a 5 point scale why is that?????? Kind of strange.

[Marquis_de_Sade]

Morganfell, it is possible for one fool to critcise another, you should know seeing as you're currently doing it.

[u got owned]

How could anyone believe that a website breaking an embargo is legit?

It obvious this websites didn't get the official review copies from MS, leading me to believe that they downloaded their copies illegally. This and the fact that they are breaking the embargo void any kind of credibility this websites could have.

[sonarus]

Whats with all the ODST haters?

[Sunny_D]

It's weird though. The negative reviews for the game have been coming from Nintendo sites lately. Maybe Microsoft did something to wii owners? /sarcasm

[Godmars290]

Backlash for all the overrated Halo 3 reviews? The fact that it is a $40 game at a $60 price?

[sonarus]

Look at the preorders. Its like over a million already. Even if its over priced halo fans still wanna play halo. So let them play. Personally i don't give a crap...too many games for me to play this yr to even manage ODST on my plate

[iceice123]

A 40$ game with a 60$ price tag, get your facts straight before making such an accusation, Godmars290. It was originally going to be a straight up expansion, 2-4 hours long. It's not anymore, it ended up being a full game warranting the price tag. Another thing, Halo 3 being overrated is your opinion. No more valid than someone who thinks it deserved those scores.

[Godmars290]

It was also going to be a $50 according to the devs before the official price came from MS. With many gamers saying it should have been $40. Doesn't change the fact that you're getting a damn short games who's only real difference from Halo 3 is a storyline.

[sonarus]

Its likely its over priced but who cares. Halo fans are the ones buying and they aren't complaining so i don't see why we should be complaining

[Godmars290]

Because we've already got idiots like Kotick openly saying game companies can put overpriced crap out and people will buy it. We don't need to give him examples proving him right.

[sonarus]

Well i would like to see kotick charge more than 60 bucks for a COD game. I personally can live without COD so if he decides to charge more then guess what will happen...i won't buy. If you think its over priced don't buy end of story

[aldesko]

If Halo:ODST is a full Halo game, what is Halo Reach going to be? 1.5 games?

[DARK WITNESS]

@ sonarus

he is already charging more then $60 for MW2, he just isn't doing it yet in the US... if everyone falls for this new pricing in the UK and Eu, you can bet you will start to see the price in the US go up soon enough.

[resistance100]

@DARK WITNESS

Note that no retailers are charging the 55quid RRP for MW2, the most expensive i've seen it is 45quid so far

[DARK WITNESS]

@ resistance100

I know, ... when it comes to retail, hardly anyone ever charges the actual RRP for a product. It's more of a guide or official price. The actual shops will usually charge less and then say they are giving you a discount.

The point is you are still paying more. if you go to amazon, play... even the high street shops, when they normally charge £39 or 35, thats not the actual RRP. The RRP on most games is actually £49 or £44. The shops sell it for £39 so they can say its x% off, it makes it look like your getting a deal to the consumer.

In the case of MW2, they uped the RRP to £55, so they can sell it for £49 or 44 instead of the usual £39. it's still a price increase. if you want to find it somewhere cheap, the best price i have seen for MW2 was Tesco who are still doing it for £39 ( at least last time i checked )

still regardless the principal is still the same, activision are trying to flees us out of the extra £ because they know most people just don't care and will buy it anyway, once we prove them right, they will apply the same pricing to everything else. It's the way business works and it happens when consumers allow it to happen.

[mastiffchild]

I'm useless! See 1.27 for what should be here. If anyone cares. You shouldn't, btw. However, basically retailers sucking up this rise hoping to cover it in sales volume doesn't alter the fact that Acti are still making as if we were paying £55. So what now? I still won't be getting it as I fear Activision will still see it as successful.

[Godmars290]

Just apply the current example of ODST to a COD title. A second game released months after a full entry into the franchise that little more than a rehash with less new content, combines already released DLC while also being short that's full price of a main game.

Hell, since we are talking about Activision, has anyone forgotten how they ran Armymen in the ground? The industry never learns from its mistakes does it.

[KingKionic]

whoa...

[Sunny_D]

Not really credible.

[Shaka2K6]

.

[El Botto]

HAHAHAHAAAAAA
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHA
HAHAH
HAHA

YOU BOUGHT A 360, HAHA!

[Ghostflight]

This site is filled with fanboys!!, the site isn't credible - Wait for IGN then you can call it a flop if it scores below 8. I own a PS3 btw, cause i traded my 360 for it.

[topdawg122]

Ouch 2/5! too bad for the "king of fps" lol

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Most are BUM-LICKING M$ LOVERS!!! ;-D People should know that by now. The internet media LOVE M$. Well apart from this erm score!!! ;-D

[Razzy]

Agree Sir Ken...M$ has probably already sent out the Halo ODST duffel bags to the big review sites ;-)

[rawd]

Tooooooooooooooooo Humannnnnnnnnnnn

[Darktimes]

HALO3 ODST= EPIC FAAAAAIIIILLLLLL
SO SAD WHEN HAZE OUTSCORES HALO ROFLOLOL

[General Jewels]

LOL, man PS3 trolls are so scared, that Halo 3 ODST is just around the corner, they arrpove clearly baised reviews, such as the fake AC review and now a review from a unknown Wii site. So be it PS3 trolls if this makes so happy and makes you sleep at night thats good.

As i am aware Halo destroyed Playstation brand forever it had taken away its spotlight and left it to ruins. Also Halo are games that destroyed all Playstation games, games wish they can be like Halo.....But oh well Halo games are the greatest. And cant wait for Halo 3 ODST!.

[Godmars290]

Just have to question why a Wii site is reviewing a 360 game...

[wxer]

http://www.wiispace.com/cat...

they review all kinda games on all platforms

and i dont think they are biased
they gave punch out ( a wii game ) a 7 out of 10
http://www.wiispace.com/200...

while they gave fall out DLC's on the xbox an 8's
http://www.wiispace.com/200...
http://www.wiispace.com/200...

and a 9 to worms on XBL
http://www.wiispace.com/200...

[Godmars290]

Know every site has to call themselves something, but you'd think a general game site wouldn't name themselves after a specific console.

[Megan Fox]

@ Godmars290

Good point.

[mastiffchild]

Maybe theyu just started with Wii games? If they did well and attracted some more contributors with other consoles(like many, many of my mates at WiiTalk have done-most have also got a 360 or PS3 these days)why wouldn't they cover other stuff?

I'm not saying they're the worlds best site -just that I see how it can happen like this.

[KeenanTheSavage]

read comments above yours or the about us page. They cover multi-platform gaming news.

[ps12&3lover]

SO WHAT IF ITS A WII SITE..GAMERS ARE GAMERS AND IF SOMEONE PLAYS A GAME AND FEELS THAT IT SUCKS THAN THEIR OPINION MATTERS JUST AS MUCH AS IGNS OR GAMEPROS

[Kill Crow]

forgive Edge yet for those not so good reviews of MGS4, LBP, KZ2, etc etc ....

[DevastationEve]

Well it's still just one site's opinion of the game. It obviously won't stop the tide.

Look through and see if you agree with their opinion, if not then you know you'll still be buying it. Review scores can't change why YOU might like/dislike a game.

edit at the disagree:

You've only really proven to me that I'm right, just like you can disagree with me so can I disagree with the review. And so can anyone else. But to diagree with me means that you need your hands held and be told what not to buy...which is sad because you've relinquished your freedom to chose :(

[Ichiryoka]

But, honestly you need to go by some reviews..I said some. For

instance if someone did not study up on GT PSP and skipped the

reviews, they would have been disappointed to find out that it was

missing a plethora of features. Not saying its a bad game, but I

wouldnt buy it without a true single player mode...

Then again they could have GTpsp just to transport cars to GT5. Who knows.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Can't really blame these reviewers.After playing the stunning Killzone 2
You can't help but feel disappointed playing halo.

[Shadow Man]

Wii fanboys have never played killzone2 before, so how can they be disappointed?

[Shadow Man]

:3

[wxer]

here you go
http://media.photobucket.co...

[Tesselation 360]

Kill what who.... what is that game never heard of it. Oww i know why because it flopped badly because of pretty (we have seen better graphics on 360) graphics and awful gameplay.

[N4G king]

@Tesselation 360 -

2 millions in 6 monthes and 91 on Metacritic
is a flop ??

lol

[tawak]

oohh you hurt shadow man feelings..sorry about it kid
you has halo reach and you can always talk the millions and millions of sale,its halo after all i just dont know how can anyone enjoy playing the sale??

[crck]

The review is poorly written. I think its just a teenager who downloaded it illegally and is stupid enough to write a review and bring attention to his illegal activities. That said, he probably has played the game and this review is his honest opinion on it.

[Dutch Boogie]

meh this won't fly well talk about a flop. in before "this site is biased, there is no dual wildind bla bla bla".

[Lou Ferrigno]

by providing accuall evidence this is a legit site to review a game.

The ''About us'' page
''Welcome to Wiispace.com, a great place for all your gaming needs and information from around the industry. Our title may have the word Wii in it, but rest assured we are a multi-platform gaming community''

^^ Just becuz a site says Wii or XBOX or PS3 in the title doesnt make it unlegit to review a game on another platform.
Just means their MAIN focus is on your every need for that specific console.

[wxer]

i agree

[really duh]

Yep until it's a site with Xbox in the name giving a PS3 game a low score. lol

This is all that matters. http://www.amazon.com/gp/be... perhaps the reason for the smear campaign? how did a Wii site get the game for review? The 360 is not going to hurt Wii this Xmas that bad. Wii will still sell hundreds of thousands more.

[Lou Ferrigno]

@ Really Duh

So you admit your a cry baby just like the other little gaylo 3 cheerleadin todlers? :)
Kool,just wat i wanted to hear from typical you.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Let's see how long it takes the mods to find this new duplicate account. So far it's been 4 hours.

[Obama]

64...40...what's the next magical number. It's like Da Vinci Code. I am guessing 16

[Dutch Boogie]

ouch! can't say i'm surprised. M$ made it quite obvious that they just put Halo 3:ODST together in a short period in order to make a quick buck from the gullible fans.

Statements like "Halo: Reach beta will sell ODST" lol. Just goes to show they never had strong intentions of making at least an average game. A 2/5 for such a welcomed franchise like Halo is a real eye opener.

Really make you wonder if Halo 3 deserved the ridiculous review scores it received.

[Dutch Boogie]

meh can't say that i'm surprised. Just about the same score i'd give this DLC.

[Tesselation 360]

like many other dlc. Its not at all normal to charge for a demo example: GT5 prologue. Fail

[N4G king]

GT5 prologue = 40$
FLOP3:ODLC = 60$

lol fail

[Another One]

I knew when this was posted in the other article that it would be up with a plethora of the crazy PS3 fanboys eating it up. I'll make my own judgment, not some site I'm not familiar with.

I did read it and they over-react to things. Too dark? What? The complaints about Firefight not having enough details to help you win the game. That's ridiculous. Limited ammo in Firefight. (I think he thinks it's too hard) The "glitches everywhere" was his sniper bullets sometimes didn't hit (only one glitch mentioned). Also doesn't say what difficulty so that the play time is verified. Was it on Easy or Normal? Did they find the audio logs?

I don't know. It just seems like a lot of over reactions. Opinions are just that though. You either take them or leave them.

[Another One]

Are you just projecting on me how you feel in your real life? It's ok, it'll probably stop hurting by the next time you get it.

Anyway, I saw issues with the review and I pointed it out. I didn't randomly post something without looking at the review. If this was a game series you enjoyed, you would probably flat out say it's a fanboy blowing hot air without even reading the thing. (haha just like your post above my last one. you obviously didn't read the article about the Reach beta in ODST)I never said he was a fanboy, i just though he was nit-picking a bit.

So, please get out of your basement, take a shower, and try not to let the light burn your skin. (Have mommy get your back with some sunscreen) Fanboy troll.

[Another One]

very good. I expected more for some reason. Maybe I should have done like your parents and expected mediocrity, then I wouldn't be disappointed.

[LoaMcLoa]

Nah not really, but I thought it would atleast get 3 or 4.. Guess we'll need to wait for Gametrailer's review, although they're a bit of aslickers for Halo

[Dutch Boogie]

Why is it that when legitimate gaming sites (not as established but still legit) review your beloved games, all of a sudden they don't count? I'd say Failtrailers is worst cause they've been caught being biased on several occasions.

People really need to stop pinning all hopes on Failtrailers.

[stonecold3]

this was a funny coming from a wii fanboy the halo review is right

[Oadif]

Shadow the game sucks,deal with it, why are you getting worked up about it anyways, its one game out of the many xbox games that you guys clame are going to be amazing so go hype up those games, because you cant defend this piece of sh!t without looking like a fanboy

[wxer]

maybe the game well get better reviews later
:)

[shutupandplay]

Wiispace? *sigh* When are the actual reviews arriving?

[Obama]

It's just getting the scores that it deserves. :)

[ps12&3lover]

hey these guys are gamers just like the people in game pro or ign..if they were to give UC2 a bad score than you wouldn't have a problem with it..if a game sucks it sucks so get over it..you don't have to be a million dollar gaming site to review a game...by the way if they did review UC2 it would get a 11/10..im out 1

[Another One]

Sunday when they're suppose to be. Not early like this one. What's so hard about following the embargo date?

@ above

I'd have a problem if they gave UC2 a bad score, and so would you. It looks great. If it was a game similar to another game you liked (UC2 being similar in gameplay to UC), you'd be displeased too. It works both ways.

P.S.- I tried to get Keighley to give me a PS3 so I could redeem the UC2 codes he was giving out. He didn't do it. Bastard...

[Obama]

Did any basher of wiispace.com read the review. It really seems he played the game and found 4 main problems with it a) too short b) lots of glitch 3) too similar to Halo3 4) price too high, all of which are legit concerns. It didn't come across to me that he's a fanboy. If I am the one reviewing the game then you guys have the right to say whatever you want.

[Dutch Boogie]

I hope metacritic adds these reviews as they have previously for many ps3 exclusives.

Edit: lol there's alot of spinning going on in here. "bu bu but my favorite game got a 2/5. The reviewers are biased". Just play the game yourselves and then get disappointed :)

[Lou Ferrigno]

Maybe it will get reviews once it drops in price :)

HAHA a year and a half in the making to get a floppin 2/5

[hard joe]

do you think those bots care?
they will still buy it no matter what
as long as it is labeled halo

[Isaahc]

Even though it's wii site ,look at reality.A dlc hyped like a full fledged game(overpriced) ,marketed like crazy( live action ads ). people where expecting this to be a bombshell that will deliver something new something big but only to find out it's the same game they played couple of years ago running on a tired milked engine. I'm not bashing but its just the same ol'same sun glasses just with a different colored lenses.

edit: I'm expecting lot of disagrees but whatever.

@ u got owned ya 2 is harsh but MS should've known better that when it was finished back in may they could at least fix some bugs, glitches and adding new gameplay or something clever(I know bungie are a talented dev) but all those time wasted they could have polished it.

[u got owned]

I agree with you. I dont think the game will deliver something new but to give the game a "2", come on...

[dwjohnson011211]

This review was not worth uploading. Associated Content, Gameswire and Wiispace none of them seem to know what the hell their talking about.

I garantee you their playing them pirated french versions that aint even complete or hoping they can bring the score of the down becuz they dont like halo. Were about to see alot of 9's thrown around regardless.

Simexchange expects this game to be at a 93.

I can't wait for it. ***k these tards that can't even write a interesting review. Completely juvinelle and a waste of my time to read.

First you got one proclaiming theirs duel weilding when their isn't. Then you got one *****ing bout how dark their tv is. WTF is this ****.

[dwjohnson011211]

I can't believe some of you actually put salt into these reviews. They were clearly written just to bash on it and make up stuff.

[etownone]

Not looking good, but I'll wait till the real reviews on Sunday.

Either way, I'm still getting the game.

[gamejediben]

Halo fails. It just fails.

Its hasn't been relevant since 2001 and its still not. I still consider Halo 2 to be THE MOST DISAPPOINTING GAME IN HISTORY. That game was an insult to gamers and FPS fans everywhere. In protest, I refused to buy Halo 3. I believe Microsoft should have made Halo 3 free for anyone who bought Halo 2 as an apology. But they didn't.

So now they are making "expansion packs" for Halo 3 and charging $60?! WTF? I am not surprised its getting failing reviews at all.

Halo is dead to me. Call of Duty is the new king and Microsoft needs to take some notes if they ever want their crown back.

[Digitaldude]

Wow, as expected, i didnt buy into the hype as i dont have a 360 and my expectations are seemingly met.

[dangert12]

its not legit

[Viatrophy]

I really, really doubt the review is legit as I'm pretty sure the proper embargo doesn't lift until tomorrow evening.

If anything, it'll be a review from someone who has downloaded the pirate version.

[Ve3tro]

Lol is this a joke or something?

[Lex Luthor]

Lol, Anyone who takes this review seriously is a clod.

[Digitaldude]

why do you say that?
It could be the very opposite...

[Ghostflight]

I predict Edge a 9, -1 because it's an expansion pack.

[Jigga69]

Seems like the 640p Halo got the reviews that it deserves.
If you want to see a real HD resolution on the great FPS check Killzone 2. AAA Confirmed. And Best FPS this year, because we know that U2 will be best game

[DARK WITNESS]

fanboy vision at it's best. lol

[taylork37]

The funny thing is, I played Killzone, and it may be the best fps this year so far(not saying much), but it has to be one of the most overrated games to date.

Great graphics of course... But I beat the single player and then suffered through some sad looking clunky multiplayer only to turn it in a week later.

Guess what, I still have all three Halos on my shelf at home.

You also proved how dumb you are by saying "Haze > Halo 3"
Go flame somewhere else.

[DevastationEve]

(...was I actually just now thinking of trying to reply to this fanboy?)

Whoa...

[ipe]

i dont blame hin,after playing kz2 most games looks last gen.And odst...
4 year old engine,10 missions per 20,30 minutes,halo 3 maps,same mp and gameplay with nothing new,......60$

[StrboyM]

To me that review seemed like a rush job, for a game with such high expectations you would think that any site would at least give a 2 page spread. It seemed like he wanted to get to just saying its bad.

Im not calling him biased, because lets face it bots, unfathomable as it may sound to you guys (the game "could" not be that great).

Im hoping it is, the only thing that concerns me now is, if there is any validity to his claim of beating it in 5 hours....if so, that's a real problem even you bots cant deny

[LaxWarrior]

@ StrBoyM

I did rush the article. My editor wanted me to post it ASAP, so I had to rush through. The game is very short, and I did take my time on it.

[Daz]

So many sites cmoe out of the woodwork when halo comes out to review it.

[kasasensei]

It's a game for real Halo Fans, no more.
It's just like MGS4, a game for MGS fans, no more.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

LMAO. A review from a 17 year old kid??? Cmon now.

[aaronisbla]

We were all 17 at one point and trust me, not all 17 year olds are immature...

[Pizzagaki]

Still doesnt change the fact that 17 years old are not credible.
Immature or not.

Thats why you dont see any 17 years old Presidents.

[iceman06]

That is the LAW!!!*LOL*

[aaronisbla]

what makes a review more credible? is it just age factor? cuz that just sounds stupid. Its like sayin " his opinion doesn't count, even if it was well done, cuz he is 17"

Note, im not talking about this review, just the stance of "lulz he's 17, what does he know?"

[chidori666]

lol another flop score for more generic, overrated, overhyped game all times..

64/100

and now 2/5

suck this ms ;)

[Goomba12]

What? a Wii site reviewing a Halo is odd in the first place, but 2 out of 5?

[AEtherbane]

they review games on all platforms anyway, this isnt the first. notice Masterchief, Kratos, and Mario in their Banner. and there news feed is mostly not wii related anyway, i se emore 360 stuff on there. so i wouldn't jump to claim their bias just yet.

[taylork37]

I would jump to say that the review still isn't legit, because do you really think a website with that name will be sent a review copy. But, if you do think that then how is their review posted before any other credible site.

I'm sure ODST is full of the "shoot someone directly in the face while standing still but doesn't kill them" glitches. That's sure sounds like all the other Halos to me.

Get real.

[aaronisbla]

this site wasn't called Wiispace.com if people would be more willing to believe the score.

I dont know, not saying its not legit reviewing going on, but how the hell they get a copy and review up earlier than other big name sites? Something smells fishy

[FF]

A Game in Portugal is 69,99€, halo ODST is 49,99€ not full price.

[mt]

it is like getting D in class not so bad =)

[AEtherbane]

At least we know the formula in the game isnt broken, its just nothing really new... unfortunately.

[Ko_Uraki]

From the same guys that gave Conduit a 9/10.
Please, give me some decent review.

[Zack Sawyer]

Anybody that likes Halo enough will buy it or will have already bought it so some site that claims to be unbiased and reviews other platforms but calls itself Wiispace.com isn't going to dissuade any fans.

Just look at the amount of pre-orders at the minute, hardly a flop. Same as Halo 3? Funnily enough it has that in its title and its just an expansion pack (overpriced).

Not to mention that many people will be looking toward the main gaming sites for reviews and not these blog reviews that keep cropping up on this site before anybody else is allowed to release them.

360 fans need to calm down and just ignore these articles until after the embargo is lifted.

And PS3 fans need to stop jumping on these reviews like they are gospel and asking "why isn't it legit just because it gave gaylo a low score?", because any legit site would wait until they are allowed to review it and do you really think these blog sites few have heard of would get a review copy legally before release?

[spektical]

the problem is if a ps3 game were to get a review from some random blog Xbox fanboys will say its legit. It works both ways, now deal with the flame PS3 fanboys have... its called KARMA.

[shysun]

I'm not a halo fan but "Wii"space?!? I'm going to call bs on this. PS3 owners don't even post in this thread, you may regret it later.

[bjornbear]

Why can't i post a comment again?! Enlighten me please...

[divideby0]

2 reviews....2 flops..
lets see how the bigger sites, who rely on MS advertisments rate the game

[Ko_Uraki]

2 fake reviews 2 flops.
These reviews have zero credibility.

[taylork37]

Next review up, Playstation Magazine..
ODST Rating: -6/20

Stop arguing that this review is credible, because its almost as credible as Uncharted 2 getting a 21/20 on PSM.

[Ko_Uraki]

At this point I expect that ODST?s third review will come from Sonydefenceforce. And I'm sure that there will be a lot of fanboys ready to believe to it.

[Ko_Uraki]

Your are wrong. PSM's review is far more reliable than that garbage.

[taylork37]

yeah and so is a 21/20...

[peeps]

but they are different. psm is a reputable source, this website however is not lol

[Obama]

PSM gave Infamous a 7; I don't see you mention about that. They are harsh reviewers.

[taylork37]

Yes, they are reputable when it comes to reviews, but that doesn't mean every review is perfect. That also doesn't mean a singular platform supporting magazine is not capable of over-inflating some reviews to help sell more consoles. The more PS3 consoles sold, the more possible people interested in subscribing to PSM. If you do a little arithmetic, this mean more money.

N4G does it also.. posting bullshit articles like this to get more hits.
I would say and I think you agree, N4G is semi-reputable considering how much time you, me, and others spend here. What does that say about us if they are not.

[Sumadyan]

Another bs review from a bs site, nothing new on n4g.

I read the thing and can tell you what they did was read oxms writeup on playing half the game then wrote their own take on it. Doesn't get any worse then this.

The real reviews are still embargoed by MS. So of course all you can get now is bs.

[bjornbear]

I'll wait for official sites, HOWEVER...i don't doubt these people played the game AND have their opinions....

ODST could be frail due to the value =S...but in the end why do reviews matter so much anyway?!

People who hang on reviews are not gamers...

[Midgard228]

hope no one is expecting a 10/10. ur gonna be dissapointed. im gonna predict a 7.5-8.5 from ign, isnt horrid but dont expect this dlc to be as good as a full halo game

[Scotracer]

There's still a review embargo up. These guys are just doing it for hits.

[peeps]

indeed. if they posted up a 10/10 review i doubt any1 would care tbh

[XM EDGE]

WIISPACE.COM

>>>WII<<<SP ACE.COM

I DONT THINK SO MATE! FROM A COMPANY CALLED WIISPACE.COM, YEAH SURE I WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUS! NOT!!!!!

[Nintendo Wii]

Hahahahahaha.
Wii on top!!!!!
ps3 and 360 will drown in their own blood!!!

[Light Yagami]

Wiiwho?

[Nintendo Wii]

4 bubble xbot droid fail.

[Evoluti0n]

why does everyone keep bringing up the '$60 price tag?'

6-8 hours is standard nowadays, seriously.

*sigh*

[KeenanTheSavage]

I really don't see it being legit. I mean, they could easily have gotten a review copy and spent a full day playing and beating the game making it so that their review got up before anyone else's, but I guess I'll have to make my own opinions when the game comes out.

[tehk1w1]

All reviews are embargoed until Saturday.

[xg-ei8ht]

Halo reviews are only legit if from Xbox360 -PAYED OFF SITES/s

[i like jam]

ill wait for other reviews then judge

[FwanK]

They should make Halo Madden style...

Halo 08
Halo 09
Halo 10
Halo 11

[peeps]

even though there was 3 years between halo - halo 2, 3 years between halo 2 and halo 3 and 2 years between halo 3 and halo:odst....

[BeaArthur]

I have a hard time finding credibility in something that is written so poorly. I will wait for reviews from credible websites.

[tehk1w1]

Fake review. Obvious flame bait.

[bobdog626]

Wii space Wii space.Do the Math.

[spektical]

ehh idk about buying this game. I'll just hold out until the price drops to a nice $40. :)
im not paying 60$ for DLC.

[feejo]

GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAT, PS3 is the best.

[Darkfiber]

Hahahaha awesome. F*ck Halo. Sadly it will still sell 3 times more copies than Uncharted 2. Sigh.

[Droid Control]

... but garbage like Halo3 ODST makes me feel ashamed to have an xbox console in my house.

[tiamat5]

Another bad review? Damn!Talk about a kick in the nuts with a steel spiked boot. Everyone was so ready to gloat about Halo OBST being the game of the year, now it seems like it is not even going to be as good as Uncharted 2. I know that Halo fanboys will buy it no matter what anyone says but it looks like Halo haters and non Xbox360 owners will be passing on this one.

[Hudahudahuda]

The game has already been dumped on torrent sites. To those who say these reviews are trash, did it not occur to you that they already downloaded the game and are giving their unbiased AKA no paid off by MS opinion on it?

[jerjef]

I don't really think it's overpriced. Sure the matchmaking is about 90% recycled, with the other 10% being the new map pack, but Firefight is completely new and has about 10 maps in it, give or take and the campaign is completely new and takes on a different approach to previous Halos. Besides, short campaigns has been a complaint of just about every Halo, but the scores have still been through the roof, why should this be treated any different? Also, Bioshock, game of the year for many lists, had NO multiplayer whatsoever and was critically acclaimed. Also lets all take a moment to remember Gran Turismo: Prologue. A $40 demo, sorry "sampler". Just thought that should be mentioned.

I also took notice to some of the other reviews given by this site. They gave Far Cry 2 an 8.5. They wanna rant about glitchy gameplay, but give THAT an 8.5. Just a little poll, has anyone in here ever finish Far Cry 2 without the game freezing causing you to lose your entire save game? Hell, have Ubisoft even fixed that yet?

Some food for thought.

[IQUITN4G]

Lol what a load tosh

It's funny though you guys fall right in and agree with this nonsense

ODST can't get here any sooner

Bungie is a truly great developer so this is unlikely a bad game

[LaxWarrior]

Hey guys, LaxWarrior here (Kyle Fletcher), I wrote the above review. I encourage you all to visit Wiispace and stick around, although the site name is Wiispace, we do post news about all gaming consoles. I won't disclose how I got ODST, but that review is legit, as I do have the game and have played through it.

Thanks for reading!

Edit.
And the fact that I write for Wiispace doesn't mean I am a Wii gamer.
I sold my Wii earlier this year, and currently ONLY have a 360. Which I've had since 2007.

[Silber]

what are all the problems? Halo 3: ODST is handled as an Expansion. Its cheaper too. 40 € instead of 60 € for a full Game.

Iam not a Halo Fan, but i will give this game a chance because i like the ODST Idea.

And Halo Reach will be a new Game and not a Expansion, as some of you wrote.

[LaxWarrior]

@ Sibler..

maybe where you live it's cheaper, but here in the States ODST is the same price as a full game.

[nombon]

i read the review then noticed how he said that Firefight was missing some features like a feature that tells u how many enemies are left, and well i just watched the new Vid Doc and it shows firefight gameplay and you can clearly see that it shows how many enemies are left on the top of your HUD. So im thinking this Wii site F@g is just jealous of a real next gen console like the xbox (or ps3)
BTW did i mention how much the Wii sucks

[jerjef]

Just wanted to add as well that it seems to me wiispace.com is nothing more than a blog site with "contributing writers", AKA forum members. Also noticed one of their "contributing writers" is Fletch627 who wrote a review of ODST for vgchartz.com and gave it a 4/10. So where did he get HIS copy? Are all wiispace.com members anti-halo?

[MasterBlaster]

Looks like they took a review off of the forums and posted it on the site to me. Does any crappy site count as credible these days?

http://www.wiispace.com/wii...

Anybody ever heard of wiispace.com anyways?

[Azimuth]

I posted a comment under the review pointing out that there's a press embargo on reviews until Saturday, and anyone sent a legitimate pre-release review copy would have had to sign an NDA to this end, and the post has been deleted and ONOEZ I'VE BEEN BANNED 4 LYFE.

Sure, because Microsoft is really going to send a pre-release copy of its hottest 2009 release to an amateur website called "Wiispace". Lolol.

@ nombon: Actually, the enemies remaining aren't indicated anywhere on the HUD in Firefight. You're probably seeing the player lives remaining. I'd say more, but I signed an NDA. ;)

[jerjef]

Well I have to respect the fact that you're abiding by the embargo agreement. Kudos to you. I just hope that the couple of bad reviews that have reared their ugly heads are either false based on fanboyism or a bad illegal glitchy download. Being a huge fan, I'd hate to see the series take an ugly turn.

[Azimuth]

Oh, what I can say with absolute 100% certainty - I've spent the last three days putting this game through its paces. Played the single player campaign through once, replayed some of the missions, played a bunch of it in co-op, and sunk a few hours into Firefight.

And I haven't seen a SINGLE glitch like those described in the review.

This guy's obviously (obviously) playing a torrented copy, and I'm smelling a Batman Glide here. Or maybe he just can't shoot for sh!t.

I'm really not sure what's worse - that they've stupidly gone and broken embargo because they have no idea how games press works, or that they've the shameless audacity to review pirated software. Integrity, guys. Look it up. :/

[jerjef]

Well you've set my mind at ease. Anything else I can handle, be it a short campaign or the fact that it's very similar to Halo 3, but shoddy programming in the way of glitchyness is one thing I can't handle.
Btw, what site do you write for, I'll have to keep an eye out for your official review.

[Azimuth]

I write for a magazine. Old school. ;)

[jaredjarboe5789]

This is odd... According to Bungie's page, those that were given early access to the game for reviews were shipped to Bungie HQ. The three reviews that have popped up in the last week all referred to bugs (Or "bizarrely placed french audio") that have been previously unheard of in previews and PAX/E3 Floor Reports. Odds are, as many have guessed, they have received pirated copies of the game. It's not exactly fair to review pirated games and take knocks against the retail version due to bugs with the copy you played. If it was, I'd have reviewed Scribblenauts by now and taken points off for wonky audio from the ROM I played last week.

I'm not doubting the game can get bad reviews, I was expecting it actually. Halo is in no way the best series ever made, but it is far from being the worst. Every game has it's haters, and this is a clear-cut case of someone trying to slow the hype down for a game they rather steer clear of. Expect more of these reviews, people.