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Elite 360 No Longer Ships With HD Cables

Luke Plunkett from Kotaku:

If you plan on picking one up in the future, you won't be so lucky, as several GameStop employees have told us new models of the hardware hitting stores across the US (new box pictured) no longer ship with a HDMI cable. In fact, they don't even ship with component cables either, just some SD composite cables, meaning anyone with a HDTV is going to have to pay a little extra.

Biggunz5385d ago

They probably realized 96% of box owners don't own a HDTV.

GameOn5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

Is that why PS3 don't come with HDMI cables too?

The answer is that Both companies want to save money.

cmrbe5385d ago

MS knows that the bots love it up the ass thats why. I mean, with a failure rate of 54% and only 3% don't like it its no wonder MS can get away with raising the price in UK and removing HD cables lmao!!.

Chubear5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

No it's just common sense. If you have an HDtv you should have an HD cable already or were going to be getting one anyways otherwise you wouldn't have bought an HDtv.

I do find it funny how gamers will never hound an HDtv manufacturer that doesn't include HD cables for their tvs but were on Sony for this. MS was a bit slow on catching on to this one.

The same with headsets. Why would Sony bundle cheap headsets when 1) you can use ANY bluetooth headset on the market and 2) why would anyone actually WANT Sony to present cheap shoddy products just because MS does it?

Kill Crow5384d ago

£3.50 or $5 online ...
no need to get any fancy gold plated bollox either ... odn't be fooled

El Botto5384d ago

Remember that the HD cable was one of the top arguments used by the stupid xbots as proof that xbox is one step ahead of the PS3 (which is obviously a frikkin LIE).

After HD DVD died, its gameless console is losing its foundation from left to right. From once "exclusive" games leaving 360 to join the PS3 family to HD cables disappearing from the package.

Hahaha! OWNED

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iamtehpwn5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

slightly disappointing.
I liked the machine coming with the HD cables.

Oh well, Component cables aren't too expensive, so go buy one.
I don't know how much they cost for 360 because I bought a premium, but mine for Ps3 costed $25.

HDMI cables CAN cost much, but you just have to find where to buy them. Never pay The $50 they try to charge you.

glennc5385d ago

it isn't the HDMI cable that is the problem. it's the idiotic optical breakaway adapter. that is where they get you.

Voozi5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

http://www.monoprice.com/ho... is everyone's best friend for HDMI cables. I bought two. One for my PS3, and one for my 360. Works great, only costed me like $5 too :D

JOLLY15385d ago

There they go copying sony again

Double Toasted5385d ago

Do you get 1080p with your 360 using the HDMI cable...

Voozi5385d ago

My TV is 720p (didn't bother for 1080p for 32") but I don't see why it couldn't produce a 1080p signal whether it be native or upscaled.

Immortal Kaim5385d ago

Regardless of how much the cables actually cost, it is pretty stupid not to include HD cables (either HDMI or Component) in the box.

I was absolutely astonished when I opened up my PS3 box and it didn't come with atleast component cables. Now MS are doing the same stupid thing.

I'm telling you now, there are people out there with a PS3 hooked up using the bundled composite cables that think it's in HD...

Tarmgar5385d ago

Haha, component is terrible. Get HDMI please. Get great quality for under $10 at newegg. If you bought an HDMI cable at a retail store, then you wasted tons of money. Overpriced they are.

randomwiz5385d ago

Yeah... i feel sorry for the people who pay $50+ for the HDMI cables made by Sony/Microsoft.

I feel REALLY sorry for people that buy monster cables or their $200 24K gold contacts; triple-layer shielding; gas-injected dielectric HDMI cables

MGSR THE HD VERSION5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

i admit yeah, it is somewhat a stupid thing what ms did, but then again you can find HD cables for cheap nowadays on ebay or a local store, plus if you're a buyer from 07 to now of an HD tv 1080i/p or 720p they usually come with cables to accommodate. in any case it would have been more of a bummer if ms shipped 360s without a controller, so the damage is pretty much petty in comparison.

Parapraxis5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

randomwiz, Sony's HDMI cables are actually quite reasonably priced, 19.99$ on Amazon. XBOX are 59.99$, way too much , but MONSTER cables basically start @ 59.99$ and go up, they are the worst.

There are plenty of places to buy generic HDMI cables that will work just fine.

2Spock5385d ago

Well unfortunately you obviously are not a audio or videophile. Or you just jumped the HDMI bandwagon without really knowing. They pretty much perform exactly the same. Here is some links to brush you up on it.

http://www.tomshardware.co....

http://www.bluejeanscable.c...

Microsoft Xbox 3605385d ago

I bet you'll see the same bunch of people who bashed Sony for not including HD cables support this now that 360 doesn't include one.

LazyDevs5385d ago

"Haha, component is terrible. Get HDMI please."

I love when people make them self's look so stupid making this comment. When they pretty much are the exact same. Maybe you need to do some reading before blurbing out. You read those links to the above poster.

dirthurts5385d ago

I switched from component cables to HDMI. There is a difference, and it's noticeable. But it's not huge. A little sharper, a little better color. Enables upscaling of movies...
But all in all a component cable is not a bad cable. VGA Neither. VGA looks near identical to HDMI. I tried those too. Color is a little different. That's about it.

Now composite cables...those suck.

All-35385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

From the Sony Style Canada Store:

Sony's DLCHD20P HDMI™ (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) 1.3 High-Speed Cable for PlayStation® 3

Features

Designed exclusively for Sony's PlayStation 3, the DCL-CH20P HDMI High-Speed Cable streams uncompressed, high-definition video and digital audio signals to your compatible TV. The first industry-supported, all-digital AV interface, HDMI (High-Definition Multimedia Interface) delivers extraordinary levels of clarity and sharpness to HD gaming.

http://www.sonystyle.ca/com...

Currently - $79.99

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From the Sony Style US Store:

PS3™ HDMI™ Cable + USB 2.0 Cable Pack

A one-two combination. You'll experience 1080p Full HD support with the High-Definition Multimedia interface (HDMI) cable and SIXAXIS™ controller recharging capabilities with the included USB 2.0 cable. Optimized for HDMI 1.3 equipped devices like PLAYSTATION®3, the 24 carat gold-plated connectors on the 10-foot HDMI cable deliver pristine picture and sound quality.

Was $79.99 - now available for $49.99

http://www.sonystyle.com/we... http://sony.links.channelin...

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From the Microsoft Xbox 360 site:

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/h...

Unleash the digital high-definition capabilities of Xbox 360™ with the Xbox 360 HDMI Cable. Experience digital high definition of your video and audio all in one cable. Enjoy movies and games at up to 1080p resolution, and superior audio via the Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound output.

Utilize the Optical/RCA Audio adapter for enhanced sound in non-HDMI supported stereo systems. Feel confident connecting your console to high-definition equipment with the quality you expect from an authentic Xbox® product.

* One wire for both digital audio and video

* Experience high-definition movies and games at up to 1080p resolution

* Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound output

* Optical/RCA Audio adapter included for non-HDMI supported stereo systems

* Plenty of room with the 6.5 foot (2 meter) long shielded cable

Currently - $49.99

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PlayStation 3 HDMI Cable & USB Cable by Sony Computer Entertainment (PLAYSTATION 3)

Buy new: WAS: $69.99 - NOW: $43.99

http://www.amazon.com/PlayS...

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Xbox 360 HDMI AV Cable by Microsoft

List Price: $49.99

Current Amazon Price: $41.49

http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-...

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The $19.99 HDMI cable you quote is NOT an official Sony brand cable.

potenquatro5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

NO.... just....NOOO!!!! I don't care how cheap HD cables are.

It is totally UNACCEPTABLE for PS3 to come without standard HD cables and headset. It is even WORSE for MS to do this aswell. I remember saying wtf when I opened my PS3, and I was vocal about it too. How the hell is MS going to ignore this and do the same? This speaks volumes. HD console not HD out the box? It's like a comedy gone wrong. Are they taking out the headset next?

Well congrats to all the fu<king lame fantards, nut hugging for no reason. You make it easier to ignore REAL gamers in favor of the "bottom line". That's a corporation for ya. Thank you stock holders for wanting your stock to go up .000002 cents!!!!!!

RememberThe3575385d ago

If your going to buy a new system just order an HDMI online, you'll get a good deal.

And stop bitckering about which brand is more expensive then the other, they're both over priced, so get over it.

Here's what we have:
PlayStation: $43.99 http://www.amazon.com/PlayS...
XBOX 360: $41.49 http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-...

Generic: $0.05 http://www.amazon.com/Hdmi-... (and it has a better rating them both)

IdleLeeSiuLung5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

THEY DID!

@LazyDevs
You might be able to post links or what not (I didn't read those suggested), but it was pretty damn clear that there was a visible difference on my Sony TV between component and HDMI. Could be something else than the cables like the connectors, but there was a significant different. It was blurry and the color was washed out, so much so I switched back!

dragunrising5385d ago

I don't recall my PS3 having HDMI or Component cables either...Not an excuse however.

The reason why they are taking out the HD cables is in order to drop the price of the Elite to $300. 360 is getting a price cut in order to compete with the PS3 Slim.

FamilyGuy5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

As far as the PS3 itself is concerned the HDMI cables make a HUGE difference in what is seen. Do you have a PS3? You could test it yourself, i'm not sure why sony designed the system this way but they did.

At the very least, an HDMI cable is a lot cleaner looking/more organized and efficient than component cables simply because it's one cable line, not a five split.

Someone asked me for a quality HDMI cable once that was still a good price and comparable to what they saw in the stores and I found them this

http://www.monoprice.com/pr...

Checkout the large picture
It's extremely comparable to monster cables. Monster actual selling point is their life time and free upgrade warranty. You buy one and you'll never have to re-buy it is why they charge so much.

Highwayman5384d ago

Actually. What everyone could do, those who own an HDTV is just buy a VGA cable. The picture looks just as good as the HDMI and with the VGA you remove a lot of input lag due to the fact that with VGA there isn't as much post processing.

I don't see why anyone is making a fuss about it. Sony never did this. Unfortunately. You had to pay to HD cables. I still laugh when Sony would say you could enjoy HD right out of the box....Oops.

gaffyh5384d ago

As far as I know, Xbox 360 HDMI cables are made specifically for Xbox? so you can't use a normal HDMI cable (someone please tell me if this is wrong). Whereas for PS3 you can use any HDMI cable, paying $20 is just stupid either way. I bought a gold-plated HDMi cable for my PS3 for $5, works perfectly.

Sarick5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

http://www.monoprice.com/pr...

Is under $5 and they work great. Bought 3 of them.

They even come in white or green to match your Xbox

http://www.monoprice.com/pr...

http://www.monoprice.com/pr...

Sarick5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

The last printer I bought didn't include a cable.
The last PC I bought didn't include a restore CD.

They did include standard cables that most TV's support. Back in the NES and SNES days those systems included RF adapters. You could buy the device that would do RED/WHITE/YEllOW. (Always get composite and component mixed up.) Now a days you can't even find RF adapters for Wii 360 or the PS3. I don't mean the converter boxes I mean straight up RF switches for the tv hookup to their respected consoles.

The reason they don't include them is because the majority of tv sets out aren't HD TV's.

It's simple, the consoles come with the most popular inputs. No reason to ship all cables to the customers when only one is needed to attach the system. Could you imagine the price tacked on to a console if it included VGA, RF, Composite, component and HDMI attachments inside the box?

lordgodalming5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

A console without cables is not a big deal for anyone who knows how to shop on the internet. I picked up two HDMI cables at newegg for $6.00 apiece, including shipping. They work great.

darthv725384d ago

I would find it very ironic that MS would remove the HDMI cable and sony to now include it. That little wire was always being used as a point in favor of the 360. How funny.

It also seems odd for them to remove the composite/component combo cable. If true I say bad move. I need to go check out one of these boxes.

If sony announces the slim and throws in either type of HD cable then it will be another point to which MS and sony have now flipped places.

potenquatro5384d ago

I'm not hating for no reason. This never happened in any generation before. Sony was the first console to not include propper vcabbles with the ps3. Now for some reason it's ok to do this. This is lame cost cutting. They can do other stuff to save a penny. Cut back a little on PR. Don't get that new Mrcielago yet, get a GTR this yer.

duplissi5384d ago

oh no! no hd cables.....god the world will now end. big deal hdmi cables can be had for 10 bucks or less online, and you dont need special sony or microsoft ones

JosefTor5384d ago

What sucks is that this will hinder the user experience since many consumers don't know that they should get the high def. cables. Both of my roommates when I moved in were playing their 360's on standard tv resolution on their 40 inch HDTVs. It was a sad sight to see until I corrected them.

Is anyone else sort of frustrated with Microsoft recently? I have been an xbox fan since the original xbox and have been through a lot and finally am starting to get worn down. First... my original xbox CD-Rom drive broke (it was a known problem but Microsoft did not fix their defective console). I get my new 360 and out of 5 of 6 friends I know with a 360... I am the only one who didn't get the RROD. Mine does sound like a freight train and once I could have sworn it was going to blow up as it got louder and louder until I shut it off. Microsoft says this isn't a defect. Lastly, I hate the new UI they have. Blades was so much more user friendly and pretty looking. I got a bunch of free backgrounds too which looked nice. Since the update, I refuse to purchase premium themes or avatar equipment because what is the point? It is a freakin background and a stupid looking character. Has anyone noticed that paying for things is getting ridiculous? Every year on their fall refresh update I used to get excited because I was about to get new features... this year... all the updates deal with something that costs extra money!!! Microsoft is putting all their efforts into these things while they should be putting their efforts into QA, better user experience, and a slim console. All I hear these days are talks about raising the core console price and phasing out the pro. Microsoft needs to get a clue. And project Natal? It doesn't even look that great... why would I want to use my body and pay extra to use it? I thought they would release something like the Wii remote or sony's idea and include it in the console price... nope... wrong there. Maybe a bargain price option for current owners so that more developers would jump on the band wagon? Wrong there again!

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poindat5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

Weren't the HDMI cables a big draw of the Elite?

It seems pretty petty to me (although I may just be uninformed lol).

WhittO5385d ago

Yep ! i remember everyone dooming the ps3 because it didnt include a HDMI cable lol - even though you can get them for like £2.99 now.

Godmars2905385d ago

No, they were a good jibe towards PS3 fanboys.

Really odd that MS is taking them away so late in the game. More so when HDTV are increasing in popularity.

Covenant5385d ago

Initially, most people were more interested in it because it was the first 360 to feature HDMI. The black color and large HD were also bonuses.

Those were the factors that drew me to it when I was looking to replace (another) defective Pro...those, and the fact that the Elites were supposed to be more reliable. (So far so good: Almost two years and going strong).

As for the HDMI cable...the one that comes with the Elite isn't bad, but it's nothing special. I replaced it with a Rocketfish one at the first opportunity, and there's a HUGE difference in picture quality between them. So it's no big loss.

But no component cables? That stinks. At the least, lower the price of the cables and the hard drives if they're not going to be standard.

meepmoopmeep5385d ago (Edited 5385d ago )

yes, i'd like to see those certain extremists say something about this.

you know who you are

:)

but yeah, HDMI and Components arent' too expensive
it would have been ideal coming with Component at least though

duplissi5384d ago (Edited 5384d ago )

ahem, covenant hdmi is an all digital signal so there is no signal degredation unlike what happens with analog connections :vga, composite, component, and coax. so its stupid to buy expensive hdmi cables expecting better picture because whether you spend 200 or 3 dollars on one it will produce the same picture. although 200 dollar ones should be of higher quality and be able to take abuse.

http://reviews.cnet.com/hdm...

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GameOn5385d ago

I thought we already knew this.

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Price Reductions Available Now on the Digital Xbox 360 Store - Closing July 29, 2024

Xbox 360 launched 18 years ago and was a generation-defining console that invited many people to jump into gaming for the first time and connect with friends around the world. We’re thrilled people continue playing their favorite Xbox 360 games on Xbox 360, or on newer consoles via Backward Compatibility for supported titles.

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Einhander197214h ago

"we believe in game preservation"

Remember the media reaction when PlayStation wanted to shut down the PS3 store (but then kept it open)... where is that reaction here?

CrimsonWing6913h ago

What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it.

You’re getting a chance to buy what you want before they close it. Moving forward digital stores should work like Steam. It’s just in this beginning they made it platform specific and closed off. A hindsight in their part and it sucks, but what is the percentage of people buying anything off these stores and what is the cost to keep the servers up?

I get it and yes making strives so this isn’t the case every gen we go into is absolutely a must. I mean PSN on PS3 is so convoluted to buy anything since you can’t use a credit card. Vita store is gone. It’s going to go away eventually.

Einhander197213h ago

"What are you asking? Like, if people got pissed at Sony for that? Because they did. We also got pissed at Nintendo when they did it."

My point is when PlayStation did this every website under the sun was writing articles talking about how "anti-consumer" it was yet I haven't seen anything like that happening when it's xbox doing it, in fact mostly what I see is praise from media when xbox makes obviously false claims about game preservation while they close down their store and xblig and push for digital only consoles streaming and subscriptions.

What I am asking is for everyone to be criticized or praised equally.

I mean look at the way the PS5 Slim's detachable disk drive was reported, it was super critical. Even though in reality they made it easier for people who initially buy a digital only console to move to physical, it was actually a step away from digital only. But did it get reported like that at all... no.

And you can still buy stuff on PlayStation you just need to add money to your account on the website or a PS4/5.

Tacoboto12h ago

That reaction isn't here because you can still play Xbox 360 discs of supported BC titles on Series and Xbox One, and you can still buy BC titles on the current Xbox Store.

It still sucks losing access to non-BC titles but don't act like it's the same situation. Let me know when PS5 actually supports my PS3 library.

Einhander197212h ago(Edited 12h ago)

How are you going to play those discs on your Series S (which 75% of xbox owners have) or your adorably all digital Series X?

And keep in mind that BC on xbox is an extremely limited selection of games, it's less than 25% of retail releases, and way less than the entire catalogue.

It's not a solution for the future, this isn't how "game preservation" looks, it's the fake PR that makes it that much worse.

Tacoboto12h ago

I'm not getting an all digital Series X so bark up someone else's tree, creep. I have my Series X for that disc support and functioning old hardware I still buy discs for (Bought Sudeki, Super Paper Mario, and 3D Dot Game Heroes a few months back - one for each old platform).

Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about.

Einhander197211h ago

"Fact is there's a mechanism that exists for Xbox OG and 360 BC physically and digitally. PS has none for PS1 or 2 or 3. If you're gonna bring PS into an Xbox article, at least know what you're talking about."

I understand that, I'm making commentary on the fact that xbox is moving to digital only (and that the vast majority of current gen xbox owners do not have a disc based option) and not towards preservation as they claim.

And obviously people can play games on the original hardware for as long as that lasts, I have hundreds of games from "retro" consoles, I own nearly 200 PS3 discs alone.

Is there some reason, you feel the need to make personal insults in every comment, I reply to what you say without insulting you. But you know whatever, it says more about you than me...

And for the record "you" was being used colloquially I wasn't speaking you directly.

shinoff21839h ago

It won't as far as emulation. The os3 was built different.

I am in agreement though. I wish Sony would sell like an ultimate console. Have it where you have to order off their site and make it have real bc. Like the og ps3 had ps2 inside so to say.

Tacoboto8h ago

@Ein You're a creep because of your obsessive comment history making everything revolve around Sony or how awful Xbox is to a point that you're now just throwing irrelevant things in any way you can.

And don't try to make "you" colloquially now just because you're wrong about me and your feelings got hurt.

Einhander19725h ago

Whatever, keep insulting me, if you think that is going to make me change my opinions or what I say you couldn't be more far from the truth.

How you choose to treat other people only reflects poorly on you. (and this time it's not colloquially)

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darthv7212h ago

The PS3 situation may have something to do with no forward way to play those games on newer hardware. Not to mention the PS3 store has been around far less than the 360 store. 360 store closing was expected and they did a pretty good job making many of its digital games forward compatible with XBO and subsequently the Series as well. Ones they could not come to an agreement with are going to be left behind, but here is your chance for last minute deals for you to continue playing on your 360.

Just because the 360 store closes doesnt make all of those games you have (digital/physical) stop working on real 360 hardware. If people have physical 360 games, chances are they also have the means to play them. Just like People with PS3 games having a PS3. It would be nice if all older games worked on newer hardware... but that is not for us to decide, that is for MS, Sony and Nintendo.

Asplundh11h ago

Difference being the 360 games will still be sold on series consoles, while the PS5 only preserved a selection of Ps3 games for premium subs. If the Xbox 360 store closes the games will still be available, if the Ps3 store closes then those games are gone.

How does this contradict what they said about game preservation?

Einhander197210h ago

As far as what I have read that is not accurate, except for a small selection of games that are available through BC.

And even when the PS3 and Vita stores were going to be shut down they still were still going to be available to download if you purchased them already.

rlow14h ago

So you’re asking for equal treatment? That’s not how the world works or don’t you know? Which I can can’t believe you’re that naive. Xbox gets attacked on this site all the time. You have to ask why that was a big deal amongst the PS3 fan base? Because it wasn’t Xbox fans that were throwing up a huge stink. It’s was PlayStation fans and look at the results, Sony gave in and kept it open. You should celebrate it, instead of worrying about who takes it on the chin more.

The one thing I’ve Learned, is these companies don’t need people to defend them. They have all done things worth criticizing, but it will never be equal.

darthv724h ago

While the 360 store is closing and you will not be able to make any new purchases from a 360..... you can still download content you have previously purchased prior to the closure. The same can also be said about access to 360 games available on the XBO/Series. You will be able to make new purchases of titles that are available on the current store as well as download previously purchased content that is also compatible with the XBO/Series.

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1Victor14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

RIP Xbox 360 digital store and all its games.
It really grinds my gears that they are waiting till 10 days before closing to give the best discounts and the list as of now is 100 or less titles from the massive 360 library

Phoenix7613h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I should have enough points by the weekend to get £25 credit off MS, (hardly ever spend money on xb1), might look at a few of these.

DivineHand12513h ago

The Xbox 360 store was one of the only advantages the Xbox Series consoles had over the PS5. When I got my series X, I spent more playing Xbox 360 games vs current-gen Xbox games since that was the golden era for Xbox and several titles had enhancements such as 4k resolution and fps boost.

Closing this store will now only benefit the competition.

VersusDMC13h ago

The xbox360 store is closing on the xbox 360.

Xbox 360 games are unaffected on the xbox one and series consoles.

Einhander197212h ago

"Xbox will stop supporting the ability to purchase new games, DLC, and other entertainment content from the Xbox 360 Store on the console ->and the Xbox 360 Marketplace (marketplace.xbox.com).<-&q uot;

You will not be able to purchase any 360 games. You will only be able to play xbox discs if you have a console that support discs which doesn't look great for the future of xbox, if it has one.

VersusDMC12h ago

@Ein

Why are you repeating what i said?

You will not be able to buy digital 360 games to play on your 360.

You will still be able to buy 360 games on Xbone and Series consoles. Go to marketplace.xbox.com, that's the old browser store and not the new one.

Knightofelemia9h ago

Won't be long before Sony pulls the plug on the PS3.

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Vader823d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal