Mass Effect 2 visually blowing away Mass Effect 1

Bioware teases on their twitter account that new Mass Effect 2 screenshots are going to be revealed soon.They also add that even thou Mass Effect 1 was already beautiful game, ME2 visuals are blowing it away.

[ape007]

beautiful but some graphical issses,bugs and framrate issues pissed off some gamers

[rroded]

both the o wow n wth...

lets jus hope they get this one running smother

[Traveler]

Mass Effect is my favorite game on the Xbox 360 and I thought it looked great. There were a few issues but it didn't ruin the game in any way. It sounds like Mass Effect 2 is going to look amazing. I can't wait.

[menoyou]

They've been saying the graphics are much better than the first Mass Effect since before they ever even revealed part 2. So far it looks exactly the same.

[Aquanox]

It's precisely those bugs which have been fixed in Mass Effect 2 they're not limiting to fixing stuff, but to dramatically improve virtually every aspect of the game.

Mass Effect 2 has all signs to become Bioware's Masterpiece... and as the Top Rated Western RPG maker, by achieving this it would naturally become the best western RPG created to date.

[STONEY4]

"So far it looks exactly the same."

If you've payed attention, the lighting and shadows are alot better, and that one planet they showed to demonstrate the exploration looked amazing too. It also looks more like Blade Runner and The Fifth Element now.

"by achieving this it would naturally become the best western RPG created to date."

IMO nothing is ever gonna be better than Deus Ex.

[mikeslemonade]

Mass Effect is the best exclusive on 360. It blew me out of the water when I played it. I doubt they make the game look that much better than the 1st one. And mass effect 1 did have some framerate issues.

[ShabzS]

in mass effect 1 were amazing... i mean the detail in the expressions i havent seen before... i was amazed unreal was capable of that .... you could see every line and curve on warrex's face as clear as day and boy was he ugly...

and judging from the gamespot live demo of ME 2 running on 360 they have really put more effort into the console version and locked the framerate at 30 fps ... i cant wait for to play this game

[likedamaster]

Mass Effect is very good looking, I can't believe they pulled that off and making it look even better in part 2. And although ME had really good facial expressions that crown belongs to Valve with Half Life 2 & the episodes. I made it an issue to compare the 2 because I was so impressed with Alyx and her facial expressions and Bioware touting their facial expression technology. My 2 cents on it.

[NewZealander]

im only just playing mass effect for the first time now, and im so hyped for the sequel, uploaded it to the hard drive so i havnt found too many frame rate problems, still the odd pop in now and then.

love the game though, and if ME2 is going to blow the first one away then its got to be stunning because the first game is pretty good in the looks department.

[Greywulf]

I doubt they can match the facial detail with the rest of the world. It could hardly run without an install after a few years of development. I doubt this extra time will provide a significant leap when its more than likely getting rushed out without a new engine. Last time I heard there was going to be some amazing sandbox game that was going to show off the 360's hardware, the sandbox portion was removed so the game could run. Last time I heard about a bigger better more badass graphics king, it wasn't even nominated for the award.

Its going on 3.5 years right? And there isn't 1 game in the entire lifetime that has been released which shows a significant upgrade from the previous title. But just like Gears2/Halo OSD/Left4Dead2/etc, people can pretend the graphics are phenomenal by next gen standards within the 360 community of course.

Lets remember this when the direct feed shows us detailed faces, fake depth of field, and low detail shaderless empty levels with lensflare & bloom. Devs need to stop BSing people.

Register your name/disagree right now for future reference.

All that aside, ME is the best recent western RPG out there. The graphics don't really matter for this experience at all. Nor do the bugs, else no one would have completed it.

[u got owned]

@ Greywulf

I usually dont do this, but you are such a blind Sony fanboy that im impress with your fanboyism. You never have anything good to say about any X360 exclusive. Please if you love Ps3 so much and dislike x360 so much stay away from its article.

on topic, this game is going to look and play so good i cant wait.

[beardpapa]

psssshh.... there was plenty of detail in the other planets that you visit especially the ones in the story. Most of the places like the ships and such w/ the "low details" I believe is because that's the design they were going for. If they added too much detail to the ships and such, it wouldn't give it the sci-fi feel to it.
I assume you saw this summer's Star Trek. Notice the bridge interior of the ship was rather plain cept the control interfaces?

Love the game. Don't hate.

I just hope they have more populated planets or space stations aside from just Citadel. It was kinda strange given a whole universe and most of the planets were just mere "outposts"

[king dong]

i think its official now...you are easily the biggest most butt hurt sony fanturd on this site congratulations! sony most be very proud of all the hardwork that you put into attacking their rival and its games. tell me, how much do sony pay you a month.....or are your only wages that what you get for doing chores around the house.

normally you can be found trying hard to attack forza, now you've moved onto other games...lol then you attack the sand box portion being removed from alan wake. man you're a loser. what about infamous? the game that pretends to be a sandbox, when all you can do is run jump and climb walls. it's just a free roaming beat em up with the most repetative missions i've yet seen. yet all the sony fanturds like yourself try and claim its the best sandbox game around....when it's far from a sandbox. did sucker punch remove the sandbox elements because of hardware limitations.??????????

anyway greywulf everyone knows you for what you are, it doesn't need me to tell them loser.

on topic, mass effect was a super game, and i'm pôsitive the sequel will be even better. haters be damned or buy a 360. you know fanboys, its great when you have both consoles, nothing better than choice.

[KRUSSIDULL]

I want coop in this game.

And lets report Greywulf ok?

[zack61]

you must the biggest retard on this website. why do you hate the 360 so much? did it rape you or something?

[xTruthx]

@Admnins
You really need to do something about the people who keep making accounts on this site.

@ u got owned
it isnt a 360 exclusive, coming to PC

@ Aquanox
Have you played the game yet? You seem to know a lot more thats been said.

@king dong
From what I see, every one who doesnt like the 360 is a ps3 fan boy

While I agree I did like this game a lot, I have my doubts, this engine must be extreemely well put together. I think grey was just saying what the 360 fanboys where saying about some of their games, while he did talk more than needed to be said, I dk y people get so defensive, If you dont care y would you reply to it ? ill wait and see how this turns out, cus even with my gaming pc I have some lag probs on the game, hope they fixed it.

[king dong3]

i dont give a sh!t if what you hate or on what side of the fence. read greywulfs comment history for an insight in to the type of fanboy he really is.

i've got all the consoles, and i dont miss out on any fames because i couldnt bring my self to buying a console that i dont like. greywulfs just an annoying troll, normally if you want to find greywulf, just look in the forza threads....he hates it with a passion lol

[Aquanox]

I haven't played it but have seen the gameplay previews. First think that attacks the eye is how fluent the combat is... unlike ME1 which didn't feel that natural. The framerate has also been dramatically improve with a gameplay as fluent as Gears of War 1 was.

The new characters are even more imaginative and intriguing than in the past, another score for Bioware, and according the IGN, the story promises to also surpass the already excellent one on ME1.

Put all that togheter and you have a hell of a game.

[xTruthx]

@king dong
I dont you just ignore him ?

[meepmoopmeep]

the only blowing i want is Sheppard and a Krogan in a "scene"
or else this game fails.

[Greywulf]

The game still has high polygon faces, and low detail everywhere else, and no one could refute that. Which is what I said. Sure, its because they want it to be old sci fi like Star Trek.. thats why the worlds are empty as well..

Infamous speaks for itself, as do its reviews. It has nothing to do with the notion that 360 games don't really have that leap in graphics from sequel to sequel, and you (23+disagrees)all know this. Not only that, but Infamous wasn't advertised as a dynamic sandbox world, then downgraded\removed.

As I said in the first comment, Graphics don't matter though. Especially for ME because its a good game. But Devs for the 360 keep saying they are going to do dazzling visuals, then can't pull it off. And its been 3 years with easier hardware to develop for.

[vhero]

Bet not on the 360 they nearly hit peak on 360 as the glitches started to show. Plus don't get me started on framerate issues that are not clearly there on the... erm... I said too much :)

[STONEY4]

Ugh, I was gonna take a bunch of pictures to show Graywolf some of the textures, so I opened up Mass Efect and kept hitting f12 think I was taking screenshots, only to realize later that Fraps wasn't open! Anyways, the game is a mixed bag in the textures. Some of the textures, especially the rocks, look very good, but what was annoying is sometimes when you'd see a very good texture, there was an extremely ugly one right next to it. And the clothes textures are awful. Anyways, this all seems fixed in Mass Effect 2.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I should hope so. There better be a huge graphical leap from the first one that came out 3 years ago. Not just visually but technically as well.

First day purchase for me.

[kaveti6616]

There's only so much you can expect from the Unreal Engine 3.

[no_more_trolling]

too much alex jones eh lol

nice pic. ima put up on myself

[iDystopia]

lol! Alex Jones ftw ;)

[beardpapa]

First day purchase for me as well... at least i hope. Is this game for next year or is it coming out this year around Forza's time? Cuz i'd be a sad panda if i have to juggle between ME2 and F3 .... too many games to enjoy this holiday!

[STONEY4]

Alex Jones!

[ShOtCall3r33]

well i hope so.

[CobraKai]

i really hope they eliminate the texture pop up. Other than that, ME was one on the better uses of UE3. The others being Bioshock and the new Batman game.

[siyrobbo]

bioshock was modified unreal engine 2.5

[CobraKai]

Really? Wow!

[STONEY4]

The first one had very nice graphics, and wasn't a grapihcs hog at all. The only 2 things I didn't like about the graphics were the textures, which even on ultra high didn't look that great, although there were some textures such as rocks that were extremely detailed. But the non-story planets looks awful. And the second thing are the dynamic shadows on character faces. I turned off dynamic shawdows because it just made the character faces look ugly. Other than that, the graphics were very pretty, and these two complaints seem fixed from what I've seen of Mass Effect 2.

[Shadow Man]

On Xbox360 (and pc) the king of Western RPGS.

[Gamer_Politics]

i hope we get some more wrpgs on the 360

[N4G king]

lol
how can it be only possible on xbox360
while its NOT the most powerful system out there ?

just like bioshok ?
and all the other games that was ported to the ps3 after being a timed Exclusives for the 360 ?

lol you just wana say it
cus you feel like saying it
yet you fail
cus the only ppl can say that are the ps3 fans
talking about there Exclusives

by the way i dont own any console of this ganaration YET
but if i did im sure i'll pick up a ps3 and a 360 at the same time

[mrv321]

Only possiple on 360 and PC... actually... I'd like you to look at

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

I cannot find the quote I need this is just what I know from memory.

'The position of a particle cannnot be given... and it's position is only a probabilitity.

So in your statement should be

Only probable on 360(and BETTER on PC).

[topdawg122]

Just barely possible on Xbox360, easily possible on ps3, and best possible for pc :), fixed it

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Yeah topdawg122 just like those poor looking poor running multiplats on the PS3, must be magic how they look better on the 360.

[topdawg122]

Most multiplats look the same to me, please don't post any links please jason360? im sure you have them ready like always. You gotta admit ps3 exclusives look better than 360 exclusive though right? right?

[N4G king]

lol
all those Disagrees
well guess what
waht i said is the truth
and you guys got to face it
=)

[DelusionalSonyDroid]

The King of JRPG's, shooters, racing games, Real Time strategy and Online gaming.

hahahahha Poor M$ bots

[el zorro]

Except the 360 IS effectively the more powerful machine. The top performance of the two consoles is very similar, but the 360 is much more efficient and easier to get good performance out of.

All reliable sources have told us the two consoles are very close in power. From the lead engineer of the two CPUs to developers that have worked on both platforms.

Did you guys read the Digital Foundry interview at Eurogamer with Tobias Berghoff who is the director of PS3 development for the game Sacred? He explained that the optimal performance for both consoles is surprisingly close, but that the 360 tends to give better performance in general. Here is a piece of that interview:

-Digital Foundry: Your game is 'Full HD' on both 360 and PS3 with similar performance levels at 1080p... is it therefore safe to say that the rendering power available to you is approximately the same on both platforms? If not, is there any danger that third-party developers are favouring 720p in some cases simply to ensure platform parity?

Tobias Berghoff: I usually put it like this: The optimal solutions for both platforms are usually surprisingly equal in performance (Hold it, fanboys! I'm not done!). For everything else, it's reasonably fast on the Xbox and absolutely horrible on the PS3.-
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

What he is saying here is that when you get things running optimally on the PS3 its performance is very similar to the 360 running optimally, but that short of getting optimal performance out of the PS3, rendering performance tends to be significantly faster on the 360 than on the PS3.

[The_Beast]

pc version..

[N4G king]

PLZ stop the BS
cell is used in SUPER COMPUTERS
now thats a fact

DELL uses the cell as the processer to its high performance servers
thats fact #2

yet core Processor is used in normal computers
i can pick up a Processor better than that now in any computer parts shop

the 360 is maxed out after only 3 years on it life span
Remember that SC:C uses 100% power of the 360

uncharted 2 only uses 30%
yet there is still one spu in the cell that's still unused
it well be used in the Future via an update

sony showed like thousands of HD movie clips in a really big show monitor like the one in cinemas and stuff
IN THE SAME TIME
can the xbox do that ?

and about those "reliable sources" you talk about
ofcorse they wont tell that xbox is not as powerfull as the PS3
cus if they did microsoft may sue them
+ im sure that microsoft pulled out a heavy cheak for ppl to say that
cus they wana sell the xbox thats why

[Tr10wn]

You are extremely delusional "The King of JRPG's, shooters, racing games, Real Time strategy and Online gaming" JRPG Star Ocean.. shooters Halo 3 tah.. Racing forza 2 and don't even mention GT5 that game is coming in 2012 when the world end.. RTS Halo Wars.. Online gaming well CoD4+Halo3+GoW2 good luck with that.

[benny o klaatt]

the joke is in his name. think about it!

[Arnon]

You... really don't know what you're talking about.

[Chubear]

You all will be utterly butt sore come next year. You all KNOW Mass Effect will be coming to the PS3. You'd have to be totally dumb not to see this but you all set yourselves up to eat serious crow.

The more you deny ME on the PS3 the more you're going to feel like $#*! when it does come to the PS3.

... just out of curiosity, how many games does EA have exclusive to the 360?

[Arnon]

EA published L4D on the Xbox 360, which is not available to the Playstation 3. EA also has also published a lot of exclusives on the PC and Nintendo Wii.

How many exclusives has EA published on the Playstation 3?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Arnon EA has published 7 games which are 360 console exclusive and about 15 Microsoft exclusives for PC and 360. Droids like to think EA is a multiplatform publisher but in the real world they been doing "some" exclusives ever since the Sega and Nintendo days. They been told countless times that Mass Effect, L4D, Splinter Cell, and Gears stay Microsoft exclusive. They write rumors while living in their moms basement. I say let em dream and b!tch because it brings more hype for 360 games.

[AngryTypingGuy]

WRPGs blow JRPGs OUT OF THE WATER, period. Most JRPGs can't even compare Fallout, Oblivion and Mass Effect.

[djtek184]

Shadow Man, give me sum of dat sh!t your smokin'

[Kyur4ThePain]

There is way too much blowing going on this gen...games blowing games, developers blowing console manufacturers and gamers blowing each other.

Where's my wife?

[commodore64]

Your wife?

maybe she joined all those people you talked about...?

[Cyb3r]

Typical of Bioware to overhype Mass Effect 1 and 2

[Hobadoon]

Wha...?

[MGOelite]

the sequal looks better than its prequal? who would have thought that eh...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Well, like the majority of 360 games, they look terrible.
Gears 2 for example, looks worse than gears 1.

[KingKionic]

No.

Gears 2 looks wayyy better.

[MGOelite]

your wrong candian guy

[ThatCanadianGuy]

You're*

Nah, i am totally right.

[CWMR]

-Nah, you're totally a troll. And you're full of it. Gears 2 looks noticeably better, to the point that many reviewers even mentioned that in their reviews.-

[likedamaster]

Well, in the bonus DVD for Gears 2 CE it shows you exactly how they upped the polygons on all characters, weapons, etc. So there.

I'm going to be honest though, I like Gears 1's world better. Maps and just the look of them are better. Gears 2 made the world too big, too spaced out for the type of gameplay that Gears has. They should have made the scenery bigger not necessarily the space. Oh well, still a great game.

[-MD-]

I*

[zack61]

the game looks awesome

[ThatCanadianGuy]

With EA making the majority of their profit from PS3, and since EA owns Bioware, along with that mysterious delay till 2010..

I'll be looking forward to the PS3 version.
What do you think about that bots?

[topdawg122]

I hope it comes to ps3 too, i would love this game on my ps3!

[air1]

so is it ok to talk about sales today?!

well, let me jump in. did you know that in uk halo 3 is out selling kz2? true story, i swear...

on topic, the game was built from the ground up on the 360, im sure the ps3 can handle the game just not as well as the 360 can. unless they can get an extra year in dev to only make a subtle difference in graphics kinda like bio shock ;)

[ThatCanadianGuy]

I'm talking of total company profit per-console.
Not random game sales.

/Facepalm

Edit: Yeah..bioshock..the former 360 exclusive, made better looking for PS3 with exclusive challenge rooms..Oh..that reminds me..NG2..the once former 360 exclusive, now for PS3 with better graphics, online co op, more bosses, weapons, playable characters..

Oh..and tales of vesperia..the once former 360 exclusive..coming to PS3..with superior graphics, more characters, etc etc.

See a pattern here? You're defending a sinking ship.
"Jump out" & Play B3yond

[air1]

oh sorry ms. canada..

i forget we have to keep things limited when talking about the ps3 :P

no, no we cant talk about over all sales, just the things sony has a leg up on.. can i squeez that red nose you clown? lol..

edit...................

oh, the horror canada. you get to play games i had beat a year ago, congrats. but yea, lets not mention all the exclusives that jumped off of sony's sinking ship..

[ThatCanadianGuy]

You can talk about sales all you want.Hell, it's all you salesbots do.
But, i'm not talking about Sales.I'm talking of company revenue in relation to Bioware and how EA likes to make everything multiplatform.

*coughs*

[air1]

"coughs" * smacks canada in the back of his head* you ok? lucky i was around kid if you choked and died you wouldnt be able to play ng2, and that would suck. soo, your welcome..

blah blah blah. bu bu but "im not talking about sales" its only cause you cant. you know damn well if you tried to you will get your ass wraped and handed back to you..

quick, man your other accounts canada!!!!

edit @ ken

of course you couldnt see it, you have way to much sony jizz in your eyes..

edit......................... .............................. . ............

@ canada

ohh you choked on the fumes, i thought it was cause of sonys balls.

i can see how you keep inhaling fumes, being 3rd and all ;) :p

[ThatCanadianGuy]

Yeah thanks for that man! I was choking on the fumes from my 360.
Anywho, As i said, yeah, i'm not talking about sales because it has nothing to do with what i said.

I honestly can't make it anymore clear than that.

And LMAO! What the f*ck is up with you people saying i have dupe accounts?? Where? As far as i know i don't have any!

Crazy bots

Edit: @Above

Niiice ;)

[el zorro]

@ThatCanadianDouche

Bioshock looks better on the PS3? What a joke.

"What matters is that the brilliantly realised city of Rapture is diminished on PS3 - first of all with a reduction in resolution - a drop from 720p to 680p, and secondly by the inclusion of an utterly useless, detail-destroying blur effect that kills fine detail. Yup, the dreaded Vaseline effect is back, once again lowering picture quality for PS3 owners with absolutely zero benefit whatsoever.

In the like-for-like sections captured for this feature, the PS3 version was far more prone to dropping down to 20fps at any given moment, even on the undersea voyage intro sequence, whereas the 360 game does a pretty good job of staying at the requisite 30 frames per second.

Taken as an average, a short sequence of action that the Xbox 360 renders at an average 30fps drops down to 25fps on PS3, but the fact that the frame-rate changes so frequently between 20fps and 30fps means that the game is beset with a level of judder far in excess of anything you might see on the Xbox 360 version.

Whether you play on 360 or PS3, it's the same game, it's just that the new version is jerkier and blurrier - significantly and annoyingly so."
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"Put simply, the graphics in the PS3 version of BioShock are disappointing to say the least. Visually, it looks as though the entire game was rendered at a lower resolution and then upscaled. The lighting effects have been toned down for the PS3 port, and yet somehow the frame rate manages to get juttery when too much is going on.

It is possible that the logically-backwards graphical differences between the two next-gen consoles can be put down to the Unreal Engine. BioShock is not the first Unreal Engine powered PS3 title to suffer technical issues; Stranglehold and Turning Point: Fall of Liberty spring to mind.

Regardless of the why, the bottom line is that BioShock on the Xbox 360 looks better and runs smoother than its PS3 counterpart. The PS3 may have a few minor differences to populate its pro column, but after more than a year of porting development we expected more."
http://www.gameplayer.com.a...

I've compared the two versions myself and there is no doubt about it, the PS3 is noticeably inferior.

[coolirisGB]

You can always get a good laugh out of *xhi*(ThatCanadianguy420)

LOL at his damage control. Just take his bubbles and be gone with his ass. The only problem he uses his *Saaking* account to make it seem like they're more PS3 fanboys that agree with him.

[ape007]

you should be named that canadian @SS

bioshock on 360 looks better,gta 4 looks\performs much better,resi5 have better framrates and textures,yes,hey canadian,the fanboyism is blinding you buddy,you know inside you that all these 360 versions looks better but you just can't accept that,it's nearly impossible and that's why I call fanboyism a disease,they can't see the truth

ngs2 looks better of course

uncharted 2 has unbelievable graphics,I wish you can accept facts but u can't xD

the fanboyism is controlling you and you know it,stop that,both 360 and ps3 are amazing

[-MD-]

Wow Canadiangirl just got destroyed by el zorro.

[iDystopia]

muahahahha poor last place Nasim. Get roasted. PS3 is a failure.

[zack61]

AMEN BROTHER EDIT: oh snap el zorro just raped *that canadian guy*

[Dread]

thats impossible because according to the fangirls in this site the 360 is maxed out

lol

[kaveti6616]

The software's inefficiency is what maxes out the hardware. The developers aren't necessarily lying when they say that their games maxes out the 360. They're actually making themselves look foolish, inexperienced, and lazy because unless their game looks godly, they ran the game off an inefficient engine.

The Unreal Engine 3 isn't specifically tailored for the 360, so Gears 2 maxed out the hardware. Microsoft is aiming to fix this problem with a proprietary engine, at least that is what I've read. It's the main reason why PS3 games are pushing the visual envelope. They run off of custom proprietary engines that maximize on the hardware's abilities. I assume that the 360 can probably run games that look better than Killzone 2 even. Killzone 2 theoretically uses 60 percent of the PS3's power. The PS3 is approximately 20 percent more powerful than the 360. The 360 can therefore run a game that has KZ2-like quality, theoretically.

[el zorro]

Pardon, kaveti6616, but the PS3 isn't 20% more powerful than the 360. That is just misinformation.

All reliable sources have told us the two consoles are very close in power. From the lead engineer of the two CPUs to developers that have worked on both platforms.

Did you read the Digital Foundry interview at Eurogamer with Tobias Berghoff who is the director of PS3 development for the game Sacred? He explained that the optimal performance for both consoles is surprisingly close, but that the 360 tends to give better performance in general. Here is a piece of that interview:

-Digital Foundry: Your game is 'Full HD' on both 360 and PS3 with similar performance levels at 1080p... is it therefore safe to say that the rendering power available to you is approximately the same on both platforms? If not, is there any danger that third-party developers are favouring 720p in some cases simply to ensure platform parity?

Tobias Berghoff: I usually put it like this: The optimal solutions for both platforms are usually surprisingly equal in performance (Hold it, fanboys! I'm not done!). For everything else, it's reasonably fast on the Xbox and absolutely horrible on the PS3.-
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

What he is saying here is that when you get things running optimally on the PS3 its performance is very similar to the 360 running optimally, but that short of getting optimal performance out of the PS3 rendering performance tends to be significantly faster on the 360 than on the PS3.

[kaveti6616]

Okay, now compare your source to John Carmack, who I have read has stated that the PS3 is theoretically 20 percent more powerful than the 360. I don't really know which machine is more "powerful." Truly unbiased sources have stated that the power comparisons are hard to gauge, and Carmack often uses the term "theoretical" because he either doesn't want to upset Microsoft or because he doesn't believe any developer will ever tap into that extra 20 percent of power.

I really couldn't care less which is more powerful, El Zorro. I only own a 360 and yet I cannot help seeing how much harder the Sony devs are pushing for betting effects. If the 360 is indeed more powerful then I'll have a good laugh about it. At the end of this generation it won't matter which hardware was more powerful. Ironically, it was Microsoft who said that it would come down to software, and here is Sony making graphically appealing games like Killzone 2 and Uncharted and Gran Turismo 5 and God of War III. And here is Microsoft appealing to the interests of lazy developers by allowing so many to work with the Unreal Engine.

[kaveti6616]

El Zorro, are you saying that the Xbox 360's tri-core Xenon set-up is as powerful as Sony's Cell?

[Polluted]

I'd be happy with mildly improved graphics or no improvement at all if it meant they could get rid of the texture pop-in and frame drops. Luckily the RPG nature of the game meant the framerate issues weren't a huge deal, but the texture pop-in really bothered me.

[Pandamobile]

Texture pop-in must be a bigger deal on the Xbox. I hardly ever get it on the PC version of UT3, GOW, ME or any other UE3 game. I mean, when the game loads, the first 2 seconds of gameplay load the textures, ambient maps, normal maps and other stuff, but it's all really quick.

[Once Upon a Fable]

Install it to your 360's harddrive = No pop-in.

[Polluted]

I did install it. Never played it for one second off the disc. It still has worse texture pop-in than ANY game I've ever seen. Not trying to bash the game, it was hella fun, but I'd rather they focus on fixing the technical issues before they go upgrading the graphics. Hopefully they feel the same over at Bioware.

[STONEY4]

You guys talking about pop-in when loading the saves or pop-in while playing the game? The pop-in with the loading happens sometimes on PC but it only takes a couple seconds for everything to show up, but pop-in during gameplay has never happened to me on PC.

[Polluted]

During gameplay. It pops in after every cut scene, load time, etc, etc. It's not your typical UE3 pop-in either. It takes a LONG time sometimes. There's also significant texture pop-in when you're navigating the inventory/character screens.

I know a little bit of pop-in is to be expected with UE3, but it's not nice and quick like Gears or something. It takes ages.

Anyway, enough about the pop-in. Mass Effect was a great game. Can't wait for part 2.

[powerfulally]

Your right, thanks to our GDDR5 memory on our graphics cards!!! PRAISE OUR P.C GLORY!!!!!

[kharma45]

I've also had no problems with ME on PC, it was a dream to play :)

[green]

Why are we all talking as if we have never seen footage of Mass Effect 2?Has the pre E3 trailer and E3 demo footage slipped peoples minds so soon?

From the E3 build that Bioware showed, the game blows Mass Effect out of the water.

[KingKionic]

Yup.

Definitely passes a lot of games graphically .

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

Why is it PS3 ONLY then??? ;-D

"even thou Mass Effect 1 was already beautiful game" Er was it really???
Didn't look that "beautiful" when i saw it!!! ;-D

[ThatCanadianGuy]

I know ken.But it's not like these chatbots have any good looking games, they'll hype up anything.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

I think they are going to have a Heart Attack when EA say 'Mass Effect 2 on xBox 360 and P.C and...the PS3'!!! ;-D

[QQcrybaby]

bioware marketing inc

[Saaking]

Only possible on xbox 360 droid!................Just kidding. This game doesn't even touch Uncharted 1 not to mention Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2. This game could be done easily on PS3.

EDIT: to the disagrees, the PS3 has proven that it can surpass the graphics of Mass Effect and certainly Mass Effect 2. On the other hand the 360 has yet to put out game be it exclusive or multiplat that looks as good as Uncharted 1 and Killzone 2. When we "droids" say something can't be done on the 360 we have evidence (the two games mentioned above) that there are games on the PS3 that look miles ahead of anything on the 360. When "bots" say something can't be done on the PS3 you look ridiculous because nothing on the 360 comes close to Killzone 2, therefore unless you name a game that looks better than Killzone 2 on the 360 you have no point.

[TheMART]

Have to agree. ME2 could be done on the PS3. But then again, it would get the inferior version as the PS3 always has inferior versions of games.

That said, the 360 and PS3 are about equal what they can do, the PS3 does have some always occuring blur on its graphics and worse lightning. But still they can do about the same.

Which brings me on my next point, KZ2 could run on the 360 just as good, if not better then it does on the PS3. Nice now to know this all, right!

[Saaking]

Alright Mart. If Killzone 2 could run better on the 360 how about this. Tell me one game on the 360 that looks as good as Killzone 2 and then I'll say Killzone 2 can on the 360. The 360 has been out 1 year longer and not one game on it reaches the levels the Killzone surpassed.

[TheMART]

KZ2 runs the way it does on the PS3, because Sony has put 80 mln. in the total KZ2 project making a specific new engine that could do this stuff.

Microsoft has made some 1st party games, but didn't have a project with that budget to get its exclusive engine. Actually, the 360 gets some interesting 3rd party optimal support for example from Epic.

In my view, Gears 2 looks so much better and interesting in its environment then KZ2. KZ2 does little things nice, but the overall view is more empty then Gears has.

Then again, if MS would put 80 mln. in a 1st party game with a new optimal build engine, then yes, it would get the most out of the system.

Just the prove that stuff like KZ2 or even better looking can be done on the 360, look at Lost Planet 2 for example. But really, the 360 version of multiplats always look sharper, better textures, more crisp etc. So I bet if a 80 mln. 1st party project by MS would be funded (and if they hypothetically would make KZ2 for the 360) KZ2 would run on the 360 as I said before. There might be a big 1st party with its specific 360 engine being made right now, putting KZ2 in its place.

[talltony]

Did you just happen to forget about bluray? do u have any idea how big a game killzone 2 is? Killzone 2 would have to be on like 3 dvd's and no dnt tell me about compression techniques cause that alone would make it loose even more quality on the 360. Also the rumour was $60 million not $80 million to make. And another thing Uncharted 2 took 2 years to make and it looks better than any 360 exclusive so whats your excuse for that?? What about Motorstorm 1 and 2 and even Uncharted 1?Carmack even said that their is more horspower in the ps3 its just harder to develop for than 360 which explains why most multiplats look better on 360 while most exclusives look better on ps3.

[coolirisGB]

ThatCanadianguy420

Atleast agree with yourself so it looks like you and the ThatCanadianguy420 account are two different people, after all the same behavior and the same bashing jibberish is being said by both of you in every article you both *happen to be in* every time.

[ape007]

you took the wrong way in gaming,I hope u relise that

you sure have more fan defending your console than being gamers who play games,
u base your love\hate on console not games
you shouldn't be called real gamers

sad

[Pistolero]

Ape007 I understand what you mean...I have both systems and they are both great...I just prefer the 360 and I make no effort to hide that fact. The thing is, I will always defend what I think is the truth...I am never hating on the PS3, because I genuinely like it...but some people think unless you bow down and agree with them that the PS3 is the greatest machine ever and the 360 is just a piece of trash you will be called a fanboy and attacked.

[ape007]

I really hate these arrogant ps3 fanboys who think ps3 is heaven and 360 sucks trash

ps3 has amazing exclusives,gow3,uncharted 2 but hey 360 got amazing exclusive,convection is UNREAL and 80% better multiplat games

Im gonna buy mw2 on 360 cause of the amazing xbox live and its fps perfect controlles

don't forget this month to check out shadow complex,it's a mix of old school \classic design with the shooting mayham,gfx and physics of this gen

can't wait for shadow complex

pistolero,great name,reminds me of gears achievement :) take bubbles

[coolirisGB]

You don't need to explain yourself to him I own both too I had the PS3 first. I guess it's easy to forget people are responding to a known troll with nothing to add ever?

[iDystopia]

"I really hate these arrogant ps3 fanboys who think ps3 is heaven and 360 sucks trash"

LOL 80-90% of these "PS3 fanboys" are ONE PERSON. Muslim/Indian anti-American extremist NASIM/SaaKing/CanadianGuy420/N elson M/Sir Ken Kutaragi.

lol get owned with the truth Nasim. Your last place turd console is inferior, last place and weaker in everything possible. "

Bu bu bu Uncharted and Killzone!!!" lol When all 350 games in PS3's library are better on XBox 360!!! HAAAAAAAA! You lose.

Wahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! Cry Nasim, Cry!!!

[Obama]

The fact that you have to add Muslim and Indian suggests that you are a damn racist. Not that it's any surprise that a bot is being a racist bigot though. And when does loving the ps3 equal hating America. You are just a insecure bitter little bot who thinks everyone is against America.

[only on playstaychun]

Your argument fails on so many levels. Remember a game called Too Human which came out exclusively for the 360? What was the budget in that? According to some reports the project was funded by Microsoft and had a massive development budget of 80 million. That pretty much makes it the game with the highest budget ever, after Shenmue I think. Compare Too Human and Killzone 2, and you will be embarassed at how silly you looked.

And NO games like KZ2 and Uncharted will not be possible in the 360 for now, because PS3 exclusives have better developers working on them and a more powerful hardware to work with; hence they have the better looking exclusives. Deal with it.

[Hercules]

thats like saying Killzone 1 looks better than Killzone 2...but maybe thats just me...

[adsaidler]

i think i'm the only person who thinks that mass effect looked horrible, even with the graphics maxed out on the PC. it just had terrible, bland textures, compared to lots of games out there '-'

[omegaortega]

I thought the textures stood out for their time on PC. Plus on a good rig there wasn't nearly as many texture issues as the 360 version.

Though there was the occasional bland texture here in there, but thats any game, even Crysis has them maxed out, seriously.

I think Mass Effect looked outstanding on PC maxed out.

[CWMR]

-Yeah, I think you are the only one. I thought the textures on the whole looked great. Definitely well above average.-

[kraze07]

I noticed some bland textures too running on max settings, but overall it still looked pretty good.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

But overall the same which aint a bad thing...I dont see mind blowing...like from uncharted 1 to 2

[el zorro]

Everything I have seen from Mass Effect 2 looks like just as big of a graphical leap as between Uncharted and Uncharted 2.

[omegaortega]

Good, need to flex my video cards muscle. Sims 3 and Plants VS Zombies aren't doin it lol.

Love those games though...

[powerfulally]

Dude your so right! what card you got in your system?? Whats ur build?

[No_NaMe]

Cant Wait ;)

[Gitaroo]

well every sequal should do better than the original

[vShinobi]

Not a huge upgrade but it does look better and Mass Effect 1's graphics we're amazing to begin with so im interested to see how this one turns out, definetly among my favorites

[Pistolero]

Oh how I love Mass Effect...let me count the ways...jk but I do love it and can't wait to get my greedy little hands on this masterful sequel. From the videos I have seen you can tell they have improved a lot of things.

[ShadowCK]

Let's get something straight Playstation Fans. You can wish all you want but Mass Effect 2 is NOT coming to the Playstation 3. BioWare and Microsoft made a contract for exclusivity of the series Mass Effect. EA bought BioWare and must honor that contract deal, basically Microsoft put up money for Mass Effect in hopes of getting a Trilogy or they must buy out Microsoft from deal.

Microsoft is still in the deal. See: ME: 2 Disc Edition for proof. This means EA would need to pay Microsoft money to go to the PS3 ... now how many sales can be guaranteed? Remember, releases a PS3 version has its own development cost too ... can EA make enough with that version to justify the cost? In this market the answer is quite plainly, no.

You aren't really getting a much larger audience and sales to justify an expense of buying a party out of a contract ... it just is a dumb business move in this economy. I wish people actually learn something about running a business, sometimes you don't get more money by expanding, it is risk vs reward.

Also, In the official announcement press release for Mass Effect 2, BioWare didn't mention the Playstation 3 whatsoever and usually, in official press releases, they mention all platforms the game is coming to. The absence of PS3 in the article means that it is currently, in no tangible sense, being planned for a PS3 release. If it was, that would have been in the announcement.

Usually, in official press releases, they mention all platforms the game is coming to. This was the official announcement press release for Mass Effect 2. The absence of PS3 in the article means that it is currently, in no tangible sense, being planned for a PS3 release. If it was, that would have been in the announcement.

[Chubear]

So let me get this right -

EA knowing spent 800million dollars to purchase a company and knew that they wouldn't be able to use the company's most popular game to reap back their investments to the maximum potential (seeing as the PS3 is pound for pound their more valued console for revenue btw the 360 & PS3)

In an economic crysis a conglomerate juggernaut like EA bought a company that they knew they wouldn't be able to do anything they wanted to do with the company's IPs. Please, tell me, why would you think EA would do something like that?

Look, at best, you'll be having a timed exclusive with ME2 with numerous PS3 offerings of the title 3-6months later. The PS3 will be getting ME1&2 bundles for a discounted price tag with bonus features like DLC included, stand alone ME1 at a discounted rate, ME2 on it's own and a PSN HOME Mass Effect gaming space too with game launching for co-op.

You guys really can't take a hint and seeing your just supporting an obvious dud in the 360. Every gen there are millions of gamers just like you

[powerfulally]

I cant wait for this to come out for P.C!!!! Just in time the new radeon cards (5000 series) will be out too!!!! Oh the glory!!!!!!!!!

[shutupandplay]

Mass Effect > PS3 games.
Mass Effect 1 & 2 > PS3.

Edit: Sorry, let me rephrase. Mass effect is a masterpiece with amazing depth, story and replay value. Lol at it not being on PS3.

[KingKionic]

Wha...

http://www.threadbombing.co...

[likedamaster]

lol @link

[pure pwnage24]

You expect sequel to games that were out more than a year before to have better visuals with there sequal? this article blows

[SaberEdge]

How many articles have we seen about Uncharted 2 having upgraded graphics over Uncharted? I love Uncharted, but don't be so selective in your hate. Not every sequel gets better graphics. I can name games on both consoles whose sequels look essentially no better than their predecessors. Plus they are saying that the graphics are "blowing away Mass Effect 1", so that is certainly news worthy.

[Raoh]

I don't doubt. it's done by a good developer and it was a good game. but i just finished mass effect (i know i'm late to the party) and am soon to start the dlc.

what i noticed is that when not in motion (characters talking but not really moving, big screen shot like scenery moments everything looks great. in motion even during cgi, the game is not that visually impressive.

this in no way takes away from the games fun factor a fun game will make you forget visual deficiencies.

With that said i'm sure (and i hope) mass effect 2 will look and play great. cant wait.

oh my god, i just got excited for a 360 release.. i need to bathe in hot steaming water.. :(

[kevinberger]

I own both systems and I am honestly tired of PS3 fans crying about how their system is superior. If you dare dislike an exclusive you get attacked by a bunch of geeks who have never seen girl's panties outside of their mother's dresser. I like my PS3 and it does have great graphics, but....the 360 is better, plain and simple. Oh and KZ2, the controls even when set to CoD are atrocious. Game is good but not as good as Gears and Halo.

Oh and for the topic. ME2 will be sweet

[Shadow017]

It's like 5 xbox fanboys with the same account and ps3 fanboys with the same account. Funny thing is it's probally like 2people arguing with each on mutliple accounts it's pretty hillarious and air1 is a suspect for sure.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Mass Effect 2 trailer was sick from start to finish!

[RAM MAGNUMS]

It's 2 people who pissed eachother off using multiple accounts to battle. I hope the ps3 guy wins.

Anyways, this 1 goes out to kevinberger!
You are a liar. I too owned both systems. 360 is trailer park trash. 360 has some little games but the ps3 has the real video games.

Have you turned on the 360 recently? It's like michael jacksons neverland ranch & you're peter pan.
Tired of ps3 fanboys? Get used to it. Did you really think out of the 140 million install base, the hardcore wouldn't be here rippin you a new one? Haaaaa! You make me laugh.

[kevinberger]

Wow! "That was a really good comeback!" 140 million users? Dude "you cannot just make up numbers that includes PS1 and PS2 numbers. Do you honestly know anybody that owns a PS3? I know that I am the only one that owns one.
I understand that the controller is made for women, and that is the closest that you will ever come to one.
Hardcore? Dude, clearly hardcore is a few years old. You are just a Padawan son. So bring it!
Remember: Anger, fear, aggression, the dark side are they!
Oh, and back up your statements with facts: how is the PS3 superior? How is KZ2 superior?

[Nihilism]

mass effect 2 on pc for me= happy in pants

[Goomba12]

I thought the original was a little boring, screw graphics I want more than that.

[devilhunterx]

Even the elevators are now nex gen!

[omgwownoobs]

People this gaming generation have become, fanboys, love giving companies money, dont care if the game has bugs and will still pay 60$ for it, holy christ is something wrong with people??? note im saying people not gamers, me im a gamer, ill buy a game, with no bugs, glitches, or any type of error of the sort because I KNOW Y 60$ will b well spent, now i saw game play video of ME1 and ME2 and honestly theres not much of a difference, so to say its mind blowing you dont know what mind blowing is because obviously you only have a 360 so that makes you the general fanboy. Now if you have a Wii, 360, and PS3, and you truly do love video games, you would know that PS3 already gives mind blowing graphics, wii is just a game cube, and my 360 is a 2006 pc specd computer. I have 12 games for my ps3, 4 for my wii (take a wild guess :P), and 7 for my 360. why? because i got games that actually works now bubble me down burn me or ignore me i dont care atleast you read what i had to say

[Giriath]

Really? Not to be an ass, but developers usually won't come out and say their new game is underwhelming or doesn't offer a significant improvement over their last game. This is especially true when it comes to BioWare.

Reading their claims, I thought I could travel to a near-infinite amount of planets in ME, and they would all have interesting side missions that tie in to the main story. They would of course also be vastly different from each other in both visuals and layout. Well woop-de-f'n-doo, what a load of bullocks that was!

[gameman]

yeah sure ofcours like the first one had any good visuals both of the still look like crap once i see anything like untcrted 1 (yes one not 2 the 360 can't handle it) then tell me about it

(back to play blazeblue)

[PS360PCROCKS]

I wonder if they're "optimizing for hard drive" as well and that's how they're fixing some issues. Anyways I'm stoked, better graphics when the first were so good is always welcome.

[Demon5500]

I saw ME2 behind closed doors not long ago, and wow like I said xbox360 will have the best looking games this gen, this game stands up to uncharted 2, ME2 renders so much smoother and just looks like it was made on a whole new console, The pc people want to look out cos this will match what pc can do and you will need to spend a fair bit to get it to fun at a HD res with maxed out graphics, Well done guys :) And one thing the bild that was shown at e3 was only 30% of the texture quality the pic you will see in a few hours are at around 79%, I have a friend who Devs for Bioware/EA.:)

[zack61]

I'M getting even more excited because of your post man. I can't wait for this game

[XDF]

I am still waiting for Morganfell to comment on his inside information from his buddy at EA that a PS3 version is in the work and look 50% better.

[shad0w70]

- Fanboys stop saying the graphics are amazing, play prologue please, i have a 360 and ps3 and wii!(brawl only lmao) but still
anyways, these graphic are very poor if you have not even played prologue then I will just assume u only have a 360 and say OMG THESE GRAPHICS ARE INSANE, i have both so i say, meh good for a console trying its best, my ps3 prologue + gt 5500 steering wheel win! (it actually feels like you are driving a car and the graphics are just so crazy)

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Hey omgwownoobs.. does this post look familiar?

[Firewarrior]

i am exiting about this game but i need to get the first one aswell

[Campy da Camper]

is the holder of the WRPG title. Oblivion and Fallout blow ME away IMO.

[xtreampro_REVENGE]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Don't know why I posted this here but oh well (^_<)

[zack61]

GTFO DROID

[Firewarrior]

although i like 360 i like ps3 better and that vid does have alot of truth to it

[QuantumWake]

I am glad that Mass Effect 2 is going to be a great looking game. The Framerate drops and Texture pop-in really killed the experience in ME1.. I am happy that BioWare fixed those issues! Mass Effect 2 FTW! Cheers! :D