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Microsoft facing an uncertain future

However, if growth is so much a part of the company's DNA, what happens when it disappears?

Users of the Mini-Microsoft blog (http://bit.ly/bjmicrosoft1) - a site run by an anonymous Microsoft manager that has become a chatboard for employees to discuss the company without divulging their identity - generally agreed that it was seriously bad news.

"I'm glad I got laid off in January," said one user. "I see clearly now that Microsoft has truly jumped the shark and is a company in a long, slow decline."

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Xwow20085395d ago

Work soldier, our tactics are destroying MS.
the day MS decided 2 face sony its the day when they dig their own hole.
:PPP

El Botto5395d ago

Sony is not MSs only competitor.

In fact, MS is facing a huge number of competitors from Samsung, Google, Apple, Sony, Toshiba and more.

MS is losing in every area. And Windows 7 will not help MS anymore because Google OS is coming.

ShabzS5395d ago (Edited 5395d ago )

like the article says their size could be their biggest strength ... they had 60 Biliion $ in revenue this year which is a decline from the previous year for the first time in 34 yrs ... and balmer is right .... they have windows 7, the new office tools and with bing and the new yahoo buyout ... they are expanding like crazy...

KingKionic 5395d ago

Yup.

Windows 7 will be great .

Personally im looking forward to the zune hd .

^___^

jessehaysfl5395d ago

vista:sigma?

We shall see....

gaffyh5395d ago

MS will be fine, but it is worrying that they are spending so much on acquisitions at such a volatile time. Windows 7 will be successful as far as all the first impressions are saying.

MEsoJD5395d ago

Windows 7(is just pure awesome) and Zune HD(looks awesome)

I don't like the 360 that much but that doesn't make me hate the company as a whole.

They still do some things right.

D4RkNIKON5395d ago

Yeah MS will be fine, they will still sling money around like they do. They buy companies like Yahoo! and 3DV (Natal). When MS runs out of money and can no longer buy innovation or buy the competition outright then they are doomed.

IdleLeeSiuLung5395d ago (Edited 5395d ago )

Now is among the best time to buy companies. Why? It is simple, because economy is not doing so well so the books don't look as good among other things reducing it's value proposition to potential buyers.

This is the smartest a company can do right now is to buy their own stock (assuming it is a good deal) and buy other companies if you can afford it without risking your own company. MS is so full of cash it is still giving dividends to shareholders.

Dividends in my opinion is among the worst payback to shareholders, because it is taxed and limits the company's ability to invest into new businesses.

darthv725395d ago

They are certain to have good days and bad days. They are certain to sell more 360's and games. They are certain to invest more time and $$ into their venture of digital distribution. They are certain to hire and fire as they see fit.

Certainly there is more to be certain about.

umair_s515395d ago

Funy thing: 'Microsoft had been planning for the downturn, said Warren Wilson, a senior analyst with Ovum.'

Ovum!? lol. Well its actually a telecoms and software Consultant.

Omegasyde5395d ago

I think Microsoft is exanding too much in such a short time, I also believe Google will make the same mistake.

Balmer is taking too many risks, and seriosly why lay off people when your company is still making profits and its debt-asset ratio is still in the black??

Narutone665395d ago

is not safe from going bankrupt. Mismanagement and bad decisions led Enron to it's downfall.

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jessehaysfl5395d ago

wow so disgruntled employees think thier former employer will fail.

Sounds like sour grapes.

Granted I would love it if M$ failed but this is just nonsense.

NEWSFLASH: SONY and MS aren't going anywhere. No matter what happens in one hundred years from now if humans still exists so will MS and Sony.

Captain Tuttle5395d ago

Ma Bell, US Steel, AOL. I agree that MS isn't going anywhere for awhile but I doubt they'll be around in 100 years.

KRUSSIDULL5395d ago

My uncle got laid off. He doesnt hate them he likes them he would like to work for them again + they offered him work in the US but well they didnt want to move to the US and A but stay here in Sweden. Its to bad hes not working at microsoft anymore tough becuse I got my xbox 360 + over like 30 games from them.

jessehaysfl5395d ago

I hear you tuttle the only difference is those companies had nowhere near the capital sony and MS do.

However I was really just shooting for a ballpark so point well taken.

dcbronco5395d ago

You didn't see the last quarterly from Sony did you? Or any in the last couple of years. Sony doesn't have a lot of money. They are not like Microsoft. Microsoft has billions laying around. And while Sony has billions on hand, they owe 3 times what they have.

But getting to the main article, this is just another in the drive down the stock price game. For the last week or so, articles have been released to drive the stock price down so that "analyst"(read:crook s) can have their family, friends and congressmen buy it cheap. Once Windows 7, Zune HD and the Yahoo deal payoff they push it again and the stock goes up at which point the people they know sell. Don't make them more rich than they already are. Let them live off of their bailout bonus money. Stay away from the stock market.

Omegasyde5395d ago (Edited 5395d ago )

If Microsoft has billions to use, then why did they lay off "thousands"?

You never know, Microsoft could be like Enron and use smoke and mirrors as accounting practices. Not saying its true, but it a company is still making profits yet it eliminating people, something has got to be up.

I am sort of pissed that US companies are randomly laying off despite the company still making suitable profits.

The Lazy One5395d ago

cuz we're in a recession.

what kind of dumb question is that...

Omegasyde5395d ago

O so its a recession so everyone needs to lay off? I'll put it simple for you since you do not understand.

MICROSOFT is STILL MAKING $$MONEY$$. MICROSOFT IS NOT LOSING $$MONEY$$, JUST NOT MAKING AS MUCH $$MONEY$$.

MICROSOFT MAKE $$MONEY$$ = ADULTS LOSE JOB ANYWAYS? THE COW SAYS *MOO*.

jessehaysfl5394d ago

bronco I have....

Sony is losing profit not capital.

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ShabzS5395d ago (Edited 5395d ago )

hmm ... or they could be just pissed of ex employees looking to vent out

Kushan5395d ago

"The announcement marked the first time in its 34 years Microsoft had seen its business shrink from one year to the next."

Yeah, the first and ONLY time this has happened in 34 years, during a bloody recession, and people are claiming that the company is doomed and destined for failure? Uhh, if this happens 2 or 3 years in a row, particularly during a recovering economy, start asking questions why.
But lets face it, one of their biggest money makers is Windows, but the last few years Vista has been getting an absolute hammering from people (sometimes legitimately, often not, but it still all adds up) however they're on the verge of Launching Windows 7 which has, aside from the odd naysayer, had almost universal critical acclaim. It doesn't matter what you personally think about either OS, the general consensus will rule the day and that consensus is telling us that 7 is going to fly off the shelves.

Doomed indeed.

MovieScouse0075395d ago

I agree with everything you say apart from your assessment of Vista.
Vista is truly awful, there is virtually nothing on it that works as well as XP.
It's slow, a memory hogger, a resource hogger, DirectX 10 is rubbish and there are hardly any drivers that work with it!
Vista is rubbish! I will reserve judgement on Windows 7 until I've seen it in action.
But you're right about Micro$oft's profits only being affected by the recession. Panic and overstatement are the predilections of the children that make up the vast majority of visitors to this site!

Kushan5395d ago

See the problem is, when vista launched it WAS a mess. But that was (literally) years ago and quite a lot has changed since then. For example, Drivers are not really an issue these days, unless you have particularly old hardware from a particularly poor manufacturer. And in actual fact, a very little known fact, Vista can actually use XP-based drivers. Yes, it's true, you don't necessarily NEED a "vista" based driver for Vista, although it will be a lot better if you had one.
7 is very similar to Vista, in that not that much code has changed between the two, especially compared to what changed between XP and Vista, but as I'm sure you've noticed, the press have been lapping it up and singing its praises. 7 isn't a huge leap forward from where Vista is today, I bet if you tried 7 you'd probably really like it, but then if you tried Vista (With SP2), you'd probably find that the experience was much different to your previous experience.
Either way, Vista's successes and failures don't really matter, we all know that 7 is going to be big big big, even if you hate windows and think 7 is rubbish, it's very difficult to deny that fact.

N4g_null5395d ago

Kushan is right... I reinstalled vista 64 ultimate so my brother could use my PC because I'm going out of town really soonish. Well any way during the reinstall and the march up to service pack 2 I had blue screens and every thing LOL. Yet once service pack 2 was installed it worked like a charm. I have a lot of stuff hooked up to this PC now and all of my brother sound equipment. Lots of it is old yet still top notch.

I had a feeling window 7 would rock. What is sad is how the PC manufactures contributed to the whole vista problem by using old stuff. I built my own PCs and I never really had a problem till I hooked up some really old and expensive sound gear to my box.

I've been running solid since the thing came out. Another thing is you might want to stay away from the pirated version simply because certain things are taken out. Hey I'm sure some people will say other wise.

Does it really make sense to get software that controls your security from a pirate? Any way I'll be getting window7 when I get back I think I'll upgrade when I get back.

If you got any thing below ultimate then you are playing Russian roulette

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics1d 2h ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai1d 1h ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

Psychonaut8510h ago

Friends don’t let friends buy EA or Ubisoft.

Chocoburger9h ago

I said this yesterday. AI isn't what we want when it comes to crafting artistry. Alas, these soulless corporate morons don't care about their work, only about cutting corners as much as possible.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil1d 7h ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

rlow112h ago

I disagree, Xbox from the get go innovated and changed the industry. They did a lot of firsts and standardized a lot of others. It wasn’t till the beginning of the Xbox1 era that things started to go south.

Stevonidas8h ago

Yep, although I’d argue it started going to shit when they tried to hock Kinect on their audience instead of continuing to invest in their studios and IPs. 2001-2010 Xbox was peak gaming, though.

rlow17h ago

@Stevonidas
I agree they never should have focused on it after the 360 era. But you do have to remember they were faked out by the huge volumes of Kinects sold. To quote info on Wikipedia, “Project Natal, It was first released on November 4, 2010, and would go on to sell eight million units in its first 60 days of availability.” So if your Xbox and see these huge sales on a peripheral where are you going to put some money? Criticism in hindsight is worthless…..if only we could all see our future. In other wards they had no way of knowing. Plus they had engagement numbers and a lot of signs pointed to people wanting it.

Their biggest mistake wasn’t the Kinect, but unlike Sony after the PS3 debacle. They didn’t double on down on exclusive good games. The other huge mistake was letting Call of Duty go to Sony.

Hedstrom15h ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

Tacoboto15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Xbox has no soul and Phil has no confidence, and it's impossible to say either do when they killed Tango and Arkane Austin.

Everything they've said since has only made them look worse to a point that they're actually less competent than Embracer.

Markdn15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Whe you release something like the series S and expect it not to hurt your business model, and developers have to have parity with games. Then you know Microsoft don't care. Series s is the final nail that broke developers,

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow1d 20h ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot1d 16h ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker1d 16h ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz1d 13h ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga1d 10h ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher1d 18h ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21831d 8h ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning771d 6h ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot1d 5h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan1d 9h ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

darthv721d ago

....won't get fooled again

Hofstaderman1d 19h ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance1d 19h ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde1d 18h ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS71d 5h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama1d 11h ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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