id Responds to Rage PS3 Concerns

Following up on word that, at this stage in development, the Xbox 360 version of Rage runs faster than the PlayStation 3 build, new details have surfaced, indicating PS3 owners should have nothing to worry about when the game is eventually released.

"We are committed to ensuring that gamers on all platforms have a great RAGE experience," developer id said of the "ruckus" in a Twitter update.

[GWAVE]

I'll know it when I see it. Until then, let the fanboy wars...er..."speculation& quot; journalism continue.

[lociefer]

why did they even had to state that, they shoulve kept their mouth shut until the release,+ there better not be a flat texture on my ps3 version , i love id games and i wanna get this on my ps3

[Bnet343]

I think I'll play it safe and wait for reviews for both versions see what people say.

[GarandShooter]

Exactly, lociefer, why would they make a statement that they'll eventually have to retract, or at least have to do damage control for?

I guess the words were flying before the brain could stop it.

[Jaces]

If that's the case then why the hell would he comment on something so stupid and irrelevant, saying this version will run better when in fact the damn game isn't even finished yet.

[mastiffchild]

Iociefer, Jaces and Co-I know. Carmack has been tying himself in knots trying to appease the fanboys on all sides of the divide all through Rage's dev process. First the reduction of game world and why, then going on about lead platform, then the PS3 version isn't up to speed and now more damage control that should never have been needed if he had kept schtum anyway!

The game looks cool, mind, and if iD can keep away from the contradictory statements maybe we can all stop worrying and go back to just thinking about the bloody game, no?

[XDF]

Didn't the developer of Ghostbusters said the same thing?

Lets wait till the game is out before we jump to conclusion.

[PirateThom]

He didn't say any version was going to be "better".

He said, at the time, the 360 and PC versions were 60fps and the PS3 was 30fps because of the way they had the split the work load on the PS3.

The 360 has always been ahead in development on Rage, but at no point in the interview did he say the PS3 version would stay at that, just that it was behind at the moment in time.

@XDF - No, the developer of Ghostbusters said the PS3 version would be the best and it would rid the world of Terrorism and AIDS.

[Greywulf]

1. Games are released, IGN/Gamespot says its fine and the same. 7/10
2. Beyond3d scans, PS3 has less AA when you zoom in, and a texture that is blury in one corner.
3. Bloodmask will post the find on N4G.
4. Everyone will pretend they are buying some definitive game of the season(see Pure,GRID,and every single off road racing title that sucks compared to motorstorm2 both gameplay & visually) Im sure the FPS part wont top KZ2.. just a stretch though..
5. Motorstorm2 & Killzone2 runs better/looks better. Still.
6. People ignore the fact that all ps3 versions of multiplat type titles all perform and look better, which erodes any argument about a consoles potential power(since all anyone has seen from the 360 is the unreal engine and uh. what was it... ghostbusters?)
7. The servers of said off-road game will be empty within a week due to the next expansion of some FPS or new shooter, and that the game was low rated to begin with.
8. Everyone will wait for the next multiplatform game to prove that the PS3's titles still run circles around the industry as we know it. But that when its in the hands of people that don't know how to use it, it runs a little worse than the full effort of the 360. Or they will ignore that truth depending on which side of the fanboy fence they are... either way

rinse & repeat.

[SupaPlaya]

anything that compares the two consoles can be taken out of context. Unless all the multiplat devs claim that all versions are equal at any point of their development, you can't really stop the fanboys from turning nothing into something.

So basically to the devs: if someone asks you for the status of a multiplat game development all you are allowed to say is:

both version are currently equal.

I don't believe they said it to isolate one camp or to make sure PS3 gamers will feel gimped and not buy their games. They were telling the truth, then this.

[GameForFame]

I dont see id dropping something that is drastically inferior on the PS3, but that doesn't stop people from jumping on every little thing. No release date even for the game and people are acting like it's coming out tomorrow and "teh ps3 is d00med"

[La Chance]

I'm a PS3 owner and I'm not concerned at all because as usual..."I'll get it for PC" :D

[RememberThe357]

You hit the nail on the head. He was letting us in on how things are going right now, you guys need to stop getting so butt hurt off of all this.

@La Chance: Go to sleep...

[PixlSheX]

I'm a PS3 owner and I'm not concerned at all because as usual... I'll save the money for another game..

[OnlyOnN4G]

Well the the E3 build of GoW3 ran at 720p but the final retail build will run at 1080p, so i dont see why by the time of release, RAGE wouldnt be running at 60fps, especially as they have a team dedicated to the PS3 version

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Why do developers say stuff like this and then have to do damage control later on? Isn't it better to keep your mouth shut!

[Lich120]

Because people like to hear from devs on how things are going. It's interesting. Aside from N4G and a few other sites, this sort of comment doesn't always degrade into a fanboy squabble.

[Tony P]

I'm starting to believe "Rage" is the perfect name for this game.

[phosphor112]

even when Carmack said that the textures on the 360 version flickered as you moved closer and farther away. While the PS3 version ran at around 20-30 fps. But we know how this "journalism" works. You pick and choose what you like.

[Lawliet]

C'mon, obviously someone force him to make all these up or his just trying to hype up the game since we haven got any news about it for months! Think about it, when was the last time PS3 games ever got a slow loading? What do you think the long mandatory installation was for? Unless Carmack boy want to say he ain't gonna use that, then everything might have make sense that his an idiot!

[Pika-pie]

Serously they should have thought about what they were saying in the first place...

How did they expect blood thirsty childish fanboys to react when you say something is better on one console than another...

I think it could have been planned to spread awareness of the new engine and build up hype

[LoVeRSaMa]

We all know how much of a 360 fanboy Carmack is, he was rooting the 360 right before development, and was dissopointed that it had to but pushed onto more then 1 disc for it...

Now we find out that the PS3 version isn't as good, even though numerous developers have proven that the PS3 versions can easily outshine on multi plat.

Something tells me that the same amount of effort was not applied to both versions, or that the developers lack skill, the name "Vale" comes into play when I read this article and it refers to Carmack.

[JsonHenry]

So people are angry with Carmack for being honest? I am not understanding what the problem is here. He said it was behind (at the moment) but it will be on par when the final product launches.

So what is the fuss about?

[Poopface the 2nd]

The guy was being honest. Unlike you, he doesnt care about fanboy bickering. We all know the game isnt close to done. He says it will run at 60 FPS as well. How about you call him a liar if the final product isnt up to par.

I guess you would all rather have him lie right up to release day. Now that we know this he will probably let us know when the ps3 version is running at 60FPs.

Who cares what he says anyways, if he cant deliver on ps3 he will be labeled "lazy, stupid and a failure" by the fanboys.

[-Mezzo-]

I do not care which version is better, i just want the game to deliver gameplay wise.

[badz149]

many out there will think otherwise! when it comes to exclusive, if it doesn't look good, they will say, gameplay is more important but in terms of multiplat, gameplay comes 2nd, superior gfx comes 1st! that's what I learned from N4G but still don't know weather that's a good lesson or not!

but the dev shouldn't just come out and spit the differences for any mean if they are trying to make all versions look and play the same - be it storage problem or programming problem because it will surely sparks a fanboys war! but I do understand that RAGE devs desire an amount of hype for their game is like moving under the radar of many gamers and media for so long now and fanboys war is 1 of the cheapest method of HYPE! just look from now on, they will come more frequent with the updates of their game until they release it later! they desperately want attention! anybody can quote me on that!

[-Mezzo-]

I agree with you, this is nothing more then a marketing strategy. well said.

[raztad]

Agree about the gameplay, I just hope it doesnt suck, Carmack last games have been far from stellar.

I'm expecting Rage to be a decent looking game, nothing to brag about regardless the platform. Do you remember the infamous MAGATEXTURE? it was used in Quake Wars.

I'm much more excited about Doom 4. Dark claustrophobic corridor games is what Carmack does best.

[SaberEdge]

I just read the Rage feature in GameInformer and the game sounds really good to me. And nobody with eyes can deny that the graphics are some of the best we have seen.

[raztad]

@Saber

OK. I bet you those screens are from the PC version. Furthermore, you always can make good looking screens (textures and some static lightning) but the real game, running at decent speed (60fps/720p is not a easy task, look at MW2), with full AI, dynamic lighting, particle effects, everything ON at the same time is other thing. There are too many ways for this game to reach 60 fps, I'm assuming textures will be high quality (megatextures), sub-hd resolutions is one of them. Few to none effects, poor collision detection, etc etc.

Lets hope id doesnt pull another Quake Wars.

[Nineball2112]

@ Saber... I agree with you. I think the screenshots I've seen look pretty good and I'm really interested in this game.

I really hope the PS3 version isn't gimped and I can't imagine it will be.

Anyways... the premise of the game seems really cool to me. I'll be definitely checking this one out.

[-Mezzo-]

If the people working on Rage are lazy ass like most developers then only PS3 version will suffer other then that it would/should be as good as any other.

[360 man]

i shall be getting the superior 360 version

[DelbertGrady]

Lazy developers!! When's the last time id software made a good game? Who needs multiplat games when you have GT5, MAG and Unsharted 2 coming out!? NOT ME CRAPBOTZ!!!

I'll be getting the superior PC version and play it on full settings on my gaming rig.

[JonnyBadfinger]

LOL ^^^

Unsharted 2.

the PS3 thought it was gunna fart but it then turned into a crap and then turned out to be just nothing. Lol this guy just gave all the 360 fanboys a new name for the Uncharted franchise, and its a good one.

PS3 fanboys really are good at making up ridiculous names, they seem to roll right out of your mouths.... consistently

[commodore64]

lol @ soda

That's some righteous sarcasm there....
basically sums up the expected ps3 fanboy response.

clever. bubbles.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

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[commodore64]

^^^

BAM!

right on cue... rrod comment.
Like clockwork.
sad.

[Alcon Caper]

The AAA titles on the PS3 are subsidized by SEC. Killzone had a SIXTY-MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET ($60,000,000.00). Naughty Dog also gets money for Uncharted and Rachet and Clank.

Is the reason really LAZY devs? Or is it the reason stated time and time again by developers: We simply don't have the resources to make it better. When you're dealing with a budget and timeline, you can't just put in 150 hours a week just because some N4G snot nosed kid thinks the devs are lazy.

When you have delay after delay with Sony's bottomless bank account, those "untouchable" AAA games are made.

But don't blame it on the devs, for christ sake. Blame Sony for subsidizing games that are unattainable by unsubsidized companies.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Alcon: I think you are on to something right there. Nice one.

[jack who]

sonys fan hoping for the best

360 fans loling

[shutupandplay]

Yep, another superior multiplat on 360. *yawn* big surprise.

[jack who]

599 us $
599 us $
599 us $
599 us $

[talltony]

U guys are funny. Does everyone forget that they said the 360 version had a hard time wit the textures because of the space issues of DVD 9?
I swear u guys only talk about what u want.

[-MD-]

Dude you think you know what you're talking about but you're seriously clueless.

You don't know anything about programming
You don't know anything about developing a game
You don't know A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G.

[talltony]

Lol studying computer programming in school and goin by what Id said. Lol I think your the one that's cluless. Your just a 18 year old bot backing a system and u have no idea why. Grow up! DVD 9 will hurt the 360 version in the end and u know it! Or maybe u dnt cause ur in denial.

[1ikedamaster]

Reminds me of Madden 08... 30 vs 60 frames.

[cereal_killa]

http://www.shacknews.com/on...

"In an interview with Shacknews, id's John Carmack reiterated that the Xbox 360 version of Rage will look worse than the PlayStation 3 version.

Carmack said that the uncompressed build of Rage encompasses a terrabyte of data, and that id will need to use a "different type of compression" to fit the game on two dual-layer Xbox 360 DVDs.

When asked whether the difference will be significant, Carmack noted that "hero shots" should look similar, but that Xbox 360 players might find a rock that is more blurry when exploring the periphery of Rage's world."

http://www.tomsguide.com/us...

"Carmack did acknowledge that the PS3 version will look slightly better due to more storage space for high-resolution textures, thanks to Blu-ray Disc’s 50GB capacity. “All of the key scenes, the things anyone is going to take a screenshot of are going to look exactly the same on both platforms. They’ll get the high quality compression,” said Carmack. “But if you go into some areas in the wasteland, like behind a fence where nobody will typically go and explore, this is where the 360 version may look a little blurry compared to the PS3.”

http://www.breakitdownblog....

"In a Quake-Con 08 interview with the GameTrailers crew, John Carmack (lead genius behind the engines of id Software) was talking about console development.

He said that while the PS3 is harder to develop for (you spend more time separating the work and collaborating with all 8 processors) it is much better than “back in the day”. He did admit that Xbox 360 software development was easier, but that the DVD requirement will “require some quality consessions” in order to even get their game on 3 DVDs, but they will likely be forced to get it onto 2 DVDs at most by Microsoft.

An interesting note is how much it costs to add a DVD to your game; Microsoft charges you an “erroneous licensing fee” just to make it painful to do, so most folks will just over-compress their game assets and call it a day instead of paying a few hundred thousand extra (I’m guessing that is how much it costs).

I guess he has issues with both systems poor little Muppet's.

[Boty]

at you guys...

Jack Who says: $599, $599,$599...

while he fails to consider: Ps3 has many great games coming out that you can't get on the Xbox 360 console and the Reliability that comes with the ps3.

Now correct me If I'm wrong but aren't you suppose to play games on a Video game console not price?.....

...NAAAA, what was I thinking. games, on a video game console. Thats ludicrous.

[talltony]

Why dnt you read cereal killas Post and EAT IT! All I gotta say is that my disagrees dnt change the facts! You guys must be feelin so salty right now.

[vagisil]

enjoy ya rage slide show ps3 owners.

edit- to piratethom- yet it still can't outsell the 360. sorry but i have to ask what exactly are you looking for for the ps3 the rest of '09? all you droids have left this year is uncharted 2. i for one don't give 2 sh1ts about the 30th ratchet game.

you better hope thom next year the ps3 games actually do get released then. next year looks like the 360 is going to dump all over the ps3rd.

ps3 games for the rest of 09 that are worth it
uncharted 2
.
.
.
.
.can't think of nothing else.

360 releases to come
l4d2
halo odst
forza 3 (thank god it has a release date)
shadow complex
section 8

i know i know you guys will get those on the pc, whatever then that means you will be playing ya pc's more than ya ps3rd's.

and to think i thought piratethom was better than morganfell, silly me. you and the rest of the droids belong together, in a rubber room with a straight jacket on, since you have totally lost your minds since sony isn't dominant anymore.

poor droids.

to jack who and the rest of you all, don't argue with pirate thom, he is just being a stupid drunk droid.

[shutupandplay]

id should be the ones concerned...of the sales on ps3.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

for once i agree they should be worried if there's an exclusive on PS3 during there games release because than PS3 owners will buy that over Rage

[DelbertGrady]

PS3 exclusives will always outsell crappy multiplats and crappy 360 games.

Quality > quantity

[-MD-]

I'm glad I can sit back and relax knowing my version is good and well.

[odisho68]

i can also sit back and relax since whichever platform the game is best on, I will be purchasing it for that platform since I own both systems :)

[SKUD]

Fried chicken. Rice n gravy.

[RememberThe357]

mmm.... Toasty

[Ninji]

Lots of reassurance posts from the xbots in this article.

[shutupandplay]

Your damn right I`m reassured. Getting the superior version is VERY reassuring.

[nycredude]

@shutupandplay

I don't have a problem with you personally but maybe you should change your nickname to "CantplaycauseInevershutu p". You spend so much time here bashing and gloating about "your" version that I fail to see when you actual play games!

[Mo0eY]

I'm waiting on a spin, bots. Don't let me down.

[Mo0eY]

Still waiting.

Edit:
Still waiting. There's some weak spinning in this thread.

[Mo0eY]

No bot took my challenge. Go figure. We'll see what Bends the Truth.com has to say when it is released.

[JonnyBadfinger]

i dont have a spin for you but i have a fact

ALL PS3 fanboys (including yourself, that being you mooey) pee sitting down.

Im pretty sure thats the kinda comment you thrive on, nothing to do with your challenge but im sure i made you laugh.

(look out for the "peeing sitting down" in further comments later on, ive got a really good 1 brewing up for ya)

[Mo0eY]

Firstly, of course you are referring to me, genius. I'm the one you replied to - keyword: reply or to speak back to the person who just said something.

Secondly, your joke sucks.

Thirdly, I'm still waiting.

[JonnyBadfinger]

i knew you'd like that joke, because its true.

did i make you laugh? thats what i was going for. If you didnt laugh well clearly you dont understand why its so funny, if you were offended by it then it must be true that you do infact pee sitting down.

You sharp agressive reply will prove my point once again

[themyk]

sometimes i do pee sitting down.

[Nihilism]

all i can say is that the day the comparison video's come out for 360/ps3 rage, i don't wanna be on n4g...

edit: @ happyface, disagree isn't from me

[happyface]

ID will get bashed a lot but it really isn't their fault if ps3 lags behind 360, Sony made some poor decisions that are costing it now

[raztad]

@happyface

Disagreed. Poor decisions? what do you mean? Including BluRay? The Cell? RSX? two chunks of RAM?

I'm sure GG, ND and other developers beg to differ with you opinion. BTW, replaying KZ2 as elite. Amazing AI, awesome graphics, all the stuff going on on screen is mind blowing. I doubt Rage will be close to that fidelity. It's no Sony's fault those guys are just too used to the PC arch.

[RememberThe357]

Uncharted 2 says different.

Oh and GoW3, and Killzone 2, and Ratchet and Clank F2, and GT5. Oh and Heavenly Sword, that game looks great, also MGS4, and Motor Storm:PR look and run great, as well. Maybe next time you'll actually make a point. But I doubt it.

[happyface]

but just think how much nicer Killzone and Uncharted would look on Xbox360 technology - truly amazing I bet

[Serg]

"but just think how much nicer Killzone and Uncharted would look on Xbox360 technology - truly amazing I bet"

In case you lack braincells and really mean what you just stated...

Name 1 360 exclusive that comes even remotely close to what Uncharted 1, ONE, yes a game from 2007, has delivered visually. You can't, there is no game that comes close, I am not a graphics whore but that doesn't mean I am blind.

We haven't seen any game on the 360 delivering the visual quality that PS3 exclusive games have shown. Wouldn't you think that a game like Gears 2, or Halo ODST, both exclusive to the 360, would look on par or better than PS3 games because they only come out on the 360? But no, they don't, so what makes you think PS3 exclusive game would look better on the 360 if not even it's own exclusives come close?

How can someone support democracy knowing these people are able to vote...

[duplissi]

happyface

facepalm

[RememberThe357]

I'm sure hes a pretty cool, level headed, guy when he's off the internet. We all know the video game loyalty can bring out the wort in people. He probably jumped on the PS3 hate bandwagon when the 360 launched and has been stuck there since. I know a ton of guys who talk like retards when speaking of video games but are rather smart people.

You can't fault him for his ignorance, only pity him.

[Ravage27]

Thanks for the laugh happyface XD

You know, i've also wondered how much better Halo & SO4 would look if they ran on the PS3. They could have been true-HD games, such a pity..

[PixlSheX]

OMG! IT'S HAPPYFACE!

[PirateThom]

360 - 2009, the year of no games.

[jack who]

yet still out selling the ps3 ahhhhhhhhh 599 us $

[PirateThom]

At double the price, 0.1m.

XBox 360 is dead in the water, only ahead because it's cheaper. Sony steamrolled it by having games.

[-MD-]

0.1 million? Coulda swore it was closer to 8 million.

We must be on different planets.

[jack who]

spin last place ladys

edit: awwww kilzone teh system seller ah ha ahh

[xcox]

"yet still out selling the ps3 ahhhhhhhhh"

the cry of the 360 moron in 2nd place with no games and counting beans while waiting for his 3rd coffin

i guess when you can't get killzone2, infamous, uncharted2 and GT5, counting beans can be a lot of fun

lol

[DelbertGrady]

The mighty PS3 will slaughter the 360 with it's exclusives just like last year and the year before that!!

[shutupandplay]

ps3 concerns! HAHAHAHA! What concerns??? Us ps3 fanboys will game enjoying this game on our RIGS!

[-MD-]

Ahhhh yeeAAAAAAhhhhhh gettin dis on muh RIGGGGGG!

[Unicron]

I'd like to know more about the actual game itself frankly...

[Kushan]

"We are committed to ensuring that gamers on all platforms have a great RAGE experience," developer id said of the "ruckus".

What a fantastic statement...that tells us absolutely nothing.
This doesn't indicate that the PS3 version will be at 60FPS, it just tells us that you'll still have a "great experience". Sounds like what Capcom said about Dead Rising on the wii and we all know how that turned out.

To be honest, all the contradicting claims coming out about this game have completely ruined any anticipation I had for it. I'm happy to just look forward to the games that I KNOW will be good (on both PS3 and 360) and when RAGE finally comes out, then I'll make an opinion on it.

[happyface]

who cares, Sony ps3 has killzone 2

[Unicron]

I'd have to get some more info about the game before I care about it. All I've seen is them tossing about a new engine and fanboys waggling their e-peens about conjecture.

[SupaPlaya]

"What a fantastic statement...that tells us absolutely nothing"

Pretty much.

Just like Square telling us both version will be equal and that they didn't start on the 360's development after PS3's version is finished...

PR talk at work...

Seems like the only way to figure out the truth is by personally knowing someone from the dev team...

"and fanboys waggling their e-peens about conjecture. "

SWORD FIGHT!!!

[IcyJoker187]

look at the xbots finally something to be happy about

[LordMarius]

lol, they are getting excited for a game they know nothing about
desperate bots

[shutupandplay]

I give it another couple minutes before the entire ps3 fanboy damage control unit arrives.
@Icy joker, "dropping my panties" hahaha. keep fantasizing.

[IcyJoker187]

this is like your 5th comment!

its actually funny the bots are happy but they fail to realize that they are dropping their panties relying an another multi game

but ps3 owners can eat off exclusives only

go ahead bots keep going its making my day

[-MD-]

Lol this is like your second post! I'm sure there will be more.

Edit: You eat your exclusives?

[360 man]

it must pain that this multi-platform game looks miles better than all youyr exclusives

[-MD-]

Sony Defense Force is on damage control.

[Stryfeno2]

Lol, they trying to make the cry babies feel better. Awwwwwww

[LordMarius]

lol look at all the xbots, trying to do damage control after the FF13 article

[Mo0eY]

LOL, I just noticed that. Thanks for f*cking up my game, Milkcrosoft.

Edit:
Now I'm raging pretty hard over those screenshots. Milkcroshaft sucks giant dinosaur testicles.

[Etseix]

Carmack is good at what he does... i doubt that he will let his game be a crappy version on another console, hes not a lazy a$$ fanboy that says

*if they want the game, ask someone else to do the port*

lol

[-Mezzo-]

I am sick to my stomach seeing you guys being happy about Multiplatform games performing better get some nice Exclusives for ones.

And i really hope that you all are aware of the fact that if a title ends up performing better on Playstation 3 then it won't be possible on Xbox 360 and will end up as a Playstation 3 exclusive.

Cheeze get your facts straight.

[LordMarius]

lol, they have nothing else to play

Xbots claiming multiplatform games as exclusives since 2006

[shutupandplay]

HAHA. Our list of "nice exclusives" dates back to 2006. And yes, the list of "nice exclusives" on 360 absolutely trumps the list of "nice exclusives" on ps3. Maybe if you ever used any other source other than n4g, you would know that.

[LordMarius]

lets see Gaylo, Queers, more Gaylo, more Queers, Gayble
and whats coming, Gaylo:ODST Gaylo reach
poor bots

[LuHawk2]

yeah those are the games your ugly mamma brought you to play since your b!tch ass has nothing else

[Neo604]

and the legend of gaylo DLC.

[FlipMode]

i dont understand

i mean 1 game

they know nothing about

gets them all excited

i mean i guess a win is a win in xbox land

[MysticStrummer]

Not many people were talking about Rage before this, now they are. Mission accomplished. I need to hear more about the game before I get excited. Until I hear more, it's just another damn FPS.

[coolirisGB]

I'd making excuses for the PS3 version a head of time. Why does this duplicate story keep getting posted? Posting it more than once doesn't mean they will for sure get the game running on PS3 on par with the other platforms. There is no point in all this damage control until the game still proves inferior on PS3 in the future. This does not surprise this game has PC quality graphics and looks better than anything shown or has come out.

[cereal_killa]

http://www.tomsguide.com/us...

"Carmack did acknowledge that the PS3 version will look slightly better due to more storage space for high-resolution textures, thanks to Blu-ray Disc’s 50GB capacity. “All of the key scenes, the things anyone is going to take a screenshot of are going to look exactly the same on both platforms. They’ll get the high quality compression,” said Carmack. “But if you go into some areas in the wasteland, like behind a fence where nobody will typically go and explore, this is where the 360 version may look a little blurry compared to the PS3.”"

[coolirisGB]

He theorized what would happen if he wasn't allowed to use more discs way back when ID software and Microsoft had disc fee issues. http://exophase.com/xbox360...

Issues solved.

"The game, ultimately, when it's done on our servers, will be huge. I don't know, 100GB?" said Hollenshead. "But then we'll have to condense it down to price it down, and then do the passes on actually what goes into the levels. But we fully expect to saturate a Blu-ray disc, and it will be on multiple discs on the 360 and, obviously, multiple DVDs on PCs as well." http://www.totalvideogames....

“We’ve got two large wastelands on there,” he says, “we can cut it into two pieces” but “couldn’t make an arbitrary cut.” Carmack compared Rage to id’s other upcoming shooter, Doom 4, by saying that it is “structured” in a way that it will “almost certainly going to be cut up to 3 DVDs versus one Blu-ray [disc on PlayStation 3].”
http://www.thatvideogameblo...

He said that in theory before the two companies solved the cost issues.

[Dark Part]

jack who
2 -
sonys fan hoping for the best

360 fans loling
=

Yea of course ..
The Best who is hoping and looking for the best ..
Too Human Fans loling at glitches and bugs in their version .. :)

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

What PirateThom was saying is that the 360 sold 0.1 million this year which is bad considering the PS3 is selling at a higher price.

And 360_man no one has seen the game so how in the freaking heck do you know it looks better on the 360. Just look at FF13, that games taking the 360 to its limits and because of it the PS3 has suffered a downgrade because the 360 couldn't handle the game.

Bigger games with great physics, textures and lighting cause lots of stress on the 360's hardware I wonder why?.

id said the 360 version runs RAGE at 60fps but keeps on dipping down from 60fps and has texture pop-in problems.

So much for the 'superior version' LMAO!!!

[360 man]

actually i have seen the game. loads of screens n videos

and il rather take 60 fps with dips than gameplay at 20 - 30 fps

[Rhezin]

when you have no clue wtf your saying. You're just an ignorant spoiled little sh!t who goes mouthing off when he's not suppose to.

Now go sit in the corner and shut the f!ck up before someone chucks you in that corner you pathetic insignificant f!ckhead.

[-Mezzo-]

No wonder you have 1 bubble.

[Modestmex]

Rage looks better than anything out for consoles so uh yeah.

[HappyTrigger]

Damn Xbots!!!! Crap ass console limiting every single game. I wish the Xbox 360 was dead. Xbots always cry about sales.... Bu bu bu... BULLSH**! How about dumbing down FF13 more.. Huh?!! Jesus christ man! Screw the Xbox 360! Screw the Bots! Screw their milked titles! SCREW ME!! RAWR RAWR RAWR!!!!

[-Mezzo-]

Calm down man, we all have issues.

[divideby0]

carmack got owned...hopefully he will learn how to deal with the media....ala Ted Price..

[divideby0]

how can anyone disagree about a developer running his mouth off and than there is a rebuttal shortly there after....lmao
he got bitsh slapped by someone in charge

[stuntman_mike]

hopefully carmack will put his face as an in game character so i can beat his head in with a baseball bat..with a nail in it.

[hates video games]

complaining about video games :)

[MetalGearBear]

many crazy xbot!!!!
u know RAGE is not "AAA"
also, it have mant buggy and glitchy.

[devilhunterx]

Video gaming would be very boring if it werent for the fanboys.

[divideby0]

best comment yet, kudos.....and I will put "blind, transparent" in front of it...
spot on...

[LeGenDx]

goddam dvd's

[Saaking]

Wow bots how about this. Show me an x360 exclusive that looks better than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 1 and THEN you can brag about multiplats.

[Tripl3seis]

@happy face. dude seriously just stop bro u makin ur self look foolish

[OGharryjoysticks]

And there has to be a 3rd place finish as well because all things are not equal. The Id company line wants you to think otherwise, but if you just use common sense you'll realize any comment made by these guys regarding the PS3 (which they still have no clue about) is made because the internet is a powerful thing that caters to gamers who troll the internet to try to save hundreds of thousands of sales that could be lost.

[SaberEdge]

We'll see.

[SpartanZero]

Forza 3

[SpartanZero]

Halo Reach

[Aceluffy]

Dang, I must've missed something huge in my gaming world.
Please kindly show me some footage of Halo Reach. Let me make it easy for u, no need to post the link, just tell me where u've seen it.
Forza 3 ? Please someone kick him in the back of his head

[Aceluffy]

can we say...damage control ? Thank God for Twitter
U better get off your lazy ass and really start working hard

[gameman]

that Sony fan don't have any game like them loooooooool even if rage turn to be sh!t on the ps3 we still have more better games than the 3fixme (better graphics , batter story , all AAA ) and you still stick with rage ??? as if it was an exclusive to the 360 or somting

if the game turn good then i will buy it if not there's lots of games on the ps3 to keep me bust unlike the 3fixme no games in 2009 and 2010

[jalen247]

I was never worried. The PS3 is a beast of a machine. id Software are prideful developers they will harness the beast's power or people will question their skills. They have no excuse because they are world class developers known for their technology and they have had like forever to work on this game.

[coolirisGB]

Sure thats why PS3 versions of games are inferior. He didn't say they were the same, problem solved, he said they are striving to match them up.

[Pootangpie]

first of all it's a known fact that if anything sony's systems is even less powerful the only game that really showed grapical prowness was killzone 2 one game does not mean it's more powerful the whole gimped issue because of DVD is now null and void since they increased the numbers of disc to 4 however it's a well known fact they were haveing issues with ram on the PS3 so if anything the PS3 will be to blame if quality is gimped

[jalen247]

Killzone 2 is not the only game on the PS3 that shows its graphical superiority over the 360. Do some research. Let me name a few for you. Uncharted 1, Uncharted 2, Ratchet & Clank Future: TOD, Ratchet & Clank Future: ACIT, GT5 Prologue, GT5, MGS5, Motorstorm, Motorstorm: PR, LBP, R2, Folklore, Infamous, Heavenly Sword, etc. All these games are the best looking games in their genres which would mean that they look better than what the 360 is offering.

[PotNoodle]

Carmack is just like that, he is one of the few developers that loves talking about tech to the media, so it may seem unusual for him to say such a thing, but that is only because developers don't talk about the technical side of the games enough to the media anymore.

[TheTruth89]

DVD CAPABLE 360°C MINI-FURNACE will be the worse system for RAGE, due to the outdated DVD format.

Peace

[acdata]

its better than outdated ps3 GPU

[xg-ei8ht]

Didn't microsoft promise a working console.

In other news, ghostbusters dev's said they were getting a handle on the ps3, obviously they did at a lower resolution. lol. GB. Rofl. goty - not.

Rage is going to have to prove itself to me.

I couldn't careless what platform the game is on, if the game turns out to be crap, doesn't really matter.

It's like fuel, does not matter the system, crap game either way. Infact worst racing game i've ever played, and some people actually payed money for it.

[oldskoolgamer]

Ill probably get disagrees for this but why do people fight over multiplats? especially ones like this that's available to just about everybody INCLUDING macs for christsakes, just buy for whatever system you like and play it, both systems have they're strengths and weakness i just prefer the PS3 more, got tired of my disc getting scratched on the 360 and the awful noise it made so i traded it in but if you prefer the 360 so be it. sorry for the rant its late and I'm tired lol

[sak500]

Petition time.

[_vx]

mark my word it will get maximum 7/10 if not 6.

[madpuppy]

I used to love playing ID games, but, after a while the games started to become shallow and lame ( maybe they allways were) and after trying out Quake wars I was done with them. also, why does everybody in FPS's made by ID or with ID tech have the character move at like 40mph? if I could walk as fast as them I wouldn't need a car to get to work.

[ElementX]

I'd rather have Carmack say the PS3 version is running behind then lie and say "it runs just like the 360 version". They'll improve it, I have some faith in id.

[megazeroxuxm]

why do u have to put faith in the development of a game? put faith in something more worthwhile. putting faith in it is the developer's job, they gotta make it so it will sell well, it's their JOB, it is not ur job to encourage them, or anything really, if they have crappy games then fine go and bankrupt u lazy*** u know what i mean. if they have good games then ok good job pad on back i guess, but we pay for it, and it should be up to OUR standards not THEIRS. so idk wth this thread is doing here anyway.

[ElementX]

All my favorite old school games were id. Quake, Doom, and the sequels. I believe that they'll fix any issues with the PS3 version before release. Faith is believing in something without proof. I have no proof of the competence of id's PS3 programming, but I believe they won't let me down.

I'd rather put my faith in a human than some phony god....

[SRT4Chris401]

Okay Carmack has been honest about making the game on both systems. He's been honest that the 360 will have texture pop-in like Mass effect did, and he's been very honest about programming for the ps3 has been a challenge, BUT one they've taken on without crying about it like Valve did. Just because Carmack answered a question truthfully about development on ps3 version of the game, all of sudden he's branded a lazy programmer. What f is wrong with some of you people, Gabe Newell is a lazy programmer, Valve itself is full of lazy programmers, considering they're failed attempt with the Orange Box, they've publicly and openly gave the finger to a whole gaming community just because it was too hard, and people critisized them for shoddy work. If it takes them so long for some 5 hour episode for hl2, that really doesn't do anything for the story it's just to showcase "look, instead five boxes that have physics in the source engine, now we can do ten." then build the entire episode around that.....

[Gamer1111]

said the 360 version is faster in the gameinformer also. but i dont really care ill get it on my 360 anyways. i going to have uncharted 2 gt5 and gow 3 on my ps3.

[DroN4eG]

and then they try to make it good again, lulz.

[-Mezzo-]

Lol sucks right.

[ShadowMantis]

LOL
I Hear Raging Raven!
lol

[xg-ei8ht]

Soz i look at naughty dogs efforts, a talented team with idea's on how to do things. and a top notch game from day one. Uncharted.

When a team proves they know what to do and get performance from the ps3 i'll buy.

I do hope rage is good and all, but i'll let you all know in due course if i rate it or not.

[Atomic Punk]

Carmack just tells it like it is at the current dev. stage. Hopefully the XBox version's frame rate wont get gimped to match the PS3.

[air1]

well that was nice of them, to try and make it sound better for the ps3rds

[Morituri]

before you dorks get your panties in a bunch. What a bunch of clairvoyant, quote-obsessed, high-strung, high-pitched tools a lot of you are. Why on earth are you so personally invested in the quality of a game that has not been released yet to the point that you are ready to have a conniption fit?

[megazeroxuxm]

i dont really worry about the fact that it runs slower or faster, as long as the finish products are all the same and up to standards, if one of the versions happens to be crappy then that version wont sell well, that means they wont make a lot of money off of that crappy version. they dont want that, because we are the consumer, and they are our slaves, so if we dont like it they go bankrupt and we wont care.

[Digital Commando]

How in the hell could these pathetic fanboys just think they'd release a game that runs at 20 fps?! Rage could be as much as a year away for all we know!