SOCOM Confrontation bigger than Killzone 2, Resistance 2 says Sony producer

What's the biggest online game on the PS3? No, it's not Killzone 2. No, it's not even Resistance 2. According to SCEA senior producer Mark Rogers, SOCOM Confrontation stands above both of Sony's high-profile first-party FPS offerings by having the most simultaneous online connections on the PlayStation Network. He attributes Confrontation's success to the community's commitment to the franchise. Whereas other gamers may play an online game for a few weeks and move on, SOCOM fans have proven to be far more dedicated (despite the game's ... troubled launch).

[Stryfeno2]

Do people still play Killzone 2? I thought people just brought the game to pop it in from time to time on their PS3 to reinsure them of their $400 purchase.

[raztad]

Hey Patch

Yeah some people out there still play KZ2, well "at least" we got KZ2, but I'm wondering what have been playing the other box fans the WHOLE year?

[PirateThom]

I thought games were the point of a console and to ensure you it's not just a Netflix streaming and Facebook device. Microsoft should takes notes from Sony and make games.

[Pennywise]

You should twitter your highly intelligent thoughts through your XBL account.

[Gue1]

I still play the first Resistance. =)

[PotNoodle]

I still play it, along with Socom. I don't play much call of duty anymore and i don't really like Resistance 2.

[Man_of_the_year]

Well since the 360 has a game attach rate of around 7 - 8.1!!! http://kotaku.com/349058/mi... / http://www.gamasutra.com/vi... and the PS3 has an attach rate of around 5.3, and that the 360 has over 300 more games, i would conclude that it is the PS3 that has no games, or atleast nobody is buying any and or playing them....interesting.

Just the facts Sony Fanboys, just the facts.

Now ofcourse there are plenty of games played on both systems and some franchises will have a larger following than others. Socom has a HUGE following as it has established its reputation and rightfully so. Just like on the 360 Halo 3 is still the most played game, followed by COD4 then COD5.

What i would still like to see is a list of most played games on the PSN to see exactly what people are playing. Like what MS shows on a monthly basis.

[IcyJoker187]

those articles are from early 2008! lol are you serious!

http://www.joystiq.com/2009...

there ya go thats from THIS year

[Veneno]

You totally pwnd gay of the year!

[cyborg6971]

Man of the year is just a troll in disguise. His true intentions always shine through when you tear the crap off his long winded love hearing my own voice posts. Just the facts man just the facts how about the fact icy just b!tch slapped you with another man's bag.

[fuckoffodion]

I guess you were just PAWNED!

Don't mind the moron MOY, he's only second to Muderdolls.

[Man_of_the_year]

Veneno, cyborg6971, booyah007

Typical Sony Fanboy idiots who don't READ

Right from the Link IcyJoker187 provided.

QUOTE "According to recent Sony comments to Gamasutra, the PS3 has a higher attach rate than the Xbox 360 when it comes to multiplatform titles." So because Sony says its so then it MUST BE TRUE? This article is based on a quote from Sony. Can you pick a more biased source to base your opinion on? There are absolutely NO attach rate numbers in the article as well...So what are the attach rates huh you stupid morons.

The only Game they actually mention is SFVI. LOL so 1 game huh. out of the hundreds of others. Stupid Sony fanboys getting dumber and dumber by the day.

You stupid Fvcks just owned yourselves for agreeing with IcyJoker187 and not even reading the link that he provided. Droidism at its best. Thanks guys

[cyborg6971]

Why do you only have 2 bubbles o wait you can't answer that.

[Pennywise]

MOTY - You want a tissue? I think a maxi pad would be more appropriate.

[The_Beast]

LMAO i love when xbots jump right to sales. its like the 3shitty didnt have a 1 year headstart and thats why there are more systems. even though the ps3 is selling better in its time period then the 360

[morganfell]

Definitely a tight game after all of the TLC it has been given. Some of the most fun I have ever had in an online game ever.

I still cannot fathom why strabgers work together and communicate in this game so well versus other online titles where no one botehrs to even speak.

[joydestroy]

yeah some people give this game so much hate, but i love it.

[Chubear]

after all the FUD, after all the hate, after all the "SOCOM iz teh flopz" articles and forum comments and after all the launch problems, this game is still pumping hard online.

uhm, interesting. Maybe editorial reviewers and naysayers need to try harder next time.

[jwatt]

Yea Some how Socom has something in common with Halo. People may talk about it all they want but if it's the most played game online what does that tell you?

[Gamertags]

1. COD 4
2. COD 5
3. RE 2
4. SOCOM
5. Killzone 2
................

If you are a gamer with both systems, you would pick up COD 4 and 5 for the 360. Graphics are a bit better and smoother. Online is more polished, easier to get into and so on.

Resistance 2 has some good online and can be fun as heck!

Socom, is a game I have touched in a while. Going to fire it up now to check out the new stuff.

Killzone 2 was given more credit than it really deserves. A good game of course but not even close to being in the top of online gaming. Online ran thin quickly with this one.

.........
Just a note, Modern Warfare 2 looks incredible! Everyone knows how good COD4 was, this one is going to be even better.

[raztad]

OWNED was really owned.

Socom being bigger than KZ2 and R2 talks very well about PS3 fanbase. Socom is a highly tactical shooter, it needs mature gamers, not whining kids roaming around with a granade launcher as in some highly popular games out there.

[Chubear]

I think it's because of the way they structured what success is with SOCOM.

On SOCOM, getting even 5 kills in a round is considered crazy fire power where as FPS online 5 kills is weak and you need to have upward of 20kills per match to feel effective.

So, with SOCOM, at the end of a game, even if you get 16 kills and lose you don't feel happy about it cause you still feel the other team pwned you and your team. With FPSs like CoD no one gives a rats butt about lossing if they got 40kills and 1,000XP. That just means they're closer to their next badge and dont' really give a damn about the team they're playing with.

In FPS people mainly look at # of Kills when looking up other's stats. In SOCOM it's primarily W/L ratio first b4 any other thing and even when looking at kills SOCOMers mainly look at hit% rather than than #of kills per say.

[Maddens Raiders]

on another note, I wonder how many online-ers play WarHawk on a daily/weekly basis?

PS online community is pretty robust and vastly underestimated imho.

[Gun_Senshi]

If you are a real gamer you would pick COD 4 and 5 and upcoming MW2 on PC. Not only graphics are way better, but free maps + more support + better controls + More people + mods + Actual server list + tournaments etc

[Alcohog]

I have COD4 for both 360 and PS3 ( I don't have W@W), and I would have to argue that it looks a little better on the PS3. Just my opinion, but I'm sure others would agree that have both.

[OnlyOnN4G]

I wouldn't be surprised if they revealed Warhawk was just as popular as SOCOM

[heroicjanitor]

My brother(11 years old, no idea about console wars) came home from his friends house after playing cod4 on 360 and said it looks better on the ps3. He noticed it and just brought it up out of nowhere.

[Gamertags]

Gun_Senshi: I would consider myself a real gamer! I certainly have the setup to enjoy any game on my PC. But since I use my Desktop for work, (Graphic Designer) I rather enjoy my games on my consoles and use my computers for work. My personal preference.

Alcohog: I have run COD 4 on the PS3 and the 360, side by side and I believe that the 360 has the edge in the graphics department. The PS3 version lacks the smooth edges that the 360 has. The PS3 is a bit rougher over all. I haven't compared 5 though.

Ultimately the games are fairly close to being the same. I prefer Live over PSN due to the ease of use and better communication quality. Also, it is easier to join my friends with Live than with PSN.

[GameForFame]

SOCOM has always had avid followers, and even when this game dropped with all its problems it still held on to some people. Gradually people started returning as it got more stable - if any other game went through what SOCOM:Confrontation did in the beginning that game would be DONE. Not SOCOM though, that speaks volumes for the name and fans.

[DaTruth]

Strange that I owned the crap out of everyone my first time playing! You would think, if they are so dedicated, they would be better!

I hate when they play last man standing(most of the time) and everyone just hides in a dark corner until you pass by and then it seems so stupid I turn off the game. That's why I couldn't get into this game(bought it for the official mic).

[Uzesgelen_Goo]

well i'm warhawk player heh still haven't reached general my rank air something lol

[JL]

This doesn't surprise me too much. SOCOM is great and has a big (and dedicated) following. To think, it would be even more active without the release fiasco as well. Cause I'm sure that scared plenty away that haven't come back yet. They should though, now that it's all fixed up, it's an amazing game. I love the tactical feel of SOCOM. And the fanbase of SOCOM just makes it that much better. They (we) have a real passion for the game and we know there's no tactical shooter like it out there. Being conditioned by the single-player mode all these years too, I think, helps to propagate that more mature/tactical style of play. I'd love to get a new SOCOM with single-player though. But more people should give Confrontation a try again after it's been all fixed up.

[Raoh]

WOW.. wasnt expecting that... It has been a lot easier since the last patch to play and most rooms on each server are filled to the max most times. I'm a long time socom fan as well..

But i would pop in killzone 2 in before confrontation any day.

[jwatt]

Yea I've been telling people that out of all the ps3 games I have I play Socom the most. There is no ps3 game that has more people communicating and working together than Socom. Alot of people like to talk about the issues it had but when it comes down to it the game is fun as hell.

I'm so happy that Sony gave us this information, so the haters will know that Socom is no joke. You pay 40 dollars for the game and 20 for the headset, you can't beat that.

[Chubear]

There are sooo many different online games in so many different genres that spread out the base. You'll hardly find people only playing one particular game always.

For me, my time is split btw Killzone & SOCOM at times but other times is Motorstorm & Endwars, other times it's LBP and R2 other times it's HOME and MGO, other times it's .... you get my drift.

Just waiting for more damned maps for SOCOM.

[Maddens Raiders]

I think you answered my aforementioned question with:

"This is the thing with the PS base
There are sooo many different online games in so many different genres that spread out the base. You'll hardly find people only playing one particular game always"

I always see a ton of people playing WarHawk, Motorstorm 2, SOCOM, KZ2, KZ2, LBP, Street Fighter, MW, etc, ets, etc...

-- I need to get back on SOCOM and I will....

[Ju]

That's so true. And for me would I want to play all those games the day doesn't have enough hours to do so. That's the main reason, Socom doesn't get the love it deserves from me (and maybe because I suck so bad in that game. LOL). KZ2 alone keeps me busy, even though I am telling myself I have to get back to R2, as well (if you want to make some serious points, you need to play the 30min warfare ones - there 2 hours gone at once). And MS2 is crazy online, but where to take the time from...

[rukia_chan]

killzone 2 is better than this game.

[Chubear]

Yes it is but there's just something about SOCOM that keeps it's base continuously playing that game no matter what else they play.

[Etseix]

like Warhawk, i know KZ2 is better but i still play warhawk a a LOT already on 370 hours (around) of gameplay ;]

[PirateThom]

I think people really underestimate how dedicated the SOCOM fanbase is.

Killzone 2, Resistance and Call of Duty tend to split the FPS fanbase and a large percentage will take on the sequels of each of them, while people progress from one SOCOM iteration to the next.

[Veneno]

but the community are huge douchebags that take the game Way Way too seriously. If you die even once, your team will hound you to no end. the Counter-strike and Rainbow Six community are pretty rabid as well, but I can honestly say that Socom players are the worst I've ever witnessed.

But I must say that confrontation is in my top 5 favorite shooters. good stuff.

[Marceles]

Counter Strike isn't even that bad hehe...when you die other teammates usually just think:

"yaaay more kills for me!".

SOCOM players wants to know, who died, when, and how so they can talk you into leaving the server.

"How did you die right there? and you got pistoled in the head? Don't you know not to just stand there? EVERYONE knows that. Hey guys? This n00b got pistoled in the head. "HAHAH you n00b, go back and play COD4 since I'm sure that game is more your speed...f*ckin idiot" *guy cries and leaves server*

[Hobadoon]

and will always be my favorite shooting franchise and quite possibly, my favorite gaming franchise ever. It was my first game on the PS3 and the main reason I bought the system. My total hours on all of the SOCOM's combined total to something pretty impressive (or it could be pretty sad from other peoples point of views).

SOCOM 2 was the most addicting and easily my favorite period of online gaming. I mean there were times in college where I would go to classes, come back and jump on SOCOM 2 from evening until sun up and go straight back to classes the next day ha. I've never been more addicted to any other series.

I really hope /6 jumps on the ball and gets this next patch out asap. The fact that it's the most played games online doesn't surprise me at all. Us SOCOMers have always had to put up with some bullsh*t over the years (Code 9...) and we'll never abandon the series. But I will say that /6 rapidly got a more worse rep than Zipper did with the series so congrats to them for getting that trophy ha.

I'll never understand why Sony doesn't treat this franchise like it's other 1st party games. SOCOM is their golden child but for some reason that child usually gets the least amount of attention and respect. Why Sony??? This franchise could seriously be your Halo. (After religiously playing the Uncharted 2 beta, I can say that game might take that title for PS3... Might, being a definite ha)

If SOCOM had Uncharted 2 level graphics... Man...

[LevDog]

I can see that.. Ima SoCrack addict.. Wish they would fix some problems but still a Socom lover..

[MysticStrummer]

Maybe other devs will see that games like Socom are popular with a large segment of the gaming population and develop accordingly. I feel like most FPSs haven't changed in years and years, other than improvements in the graphics. R2's co-op mode was great but wasn't extensive enough, map wise. KZ2 and CoD# are the same damn game to me, with different graphics and a slightly different feel to the controls. I feel like I've been playing the same basic game since Doom with only minor changes.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

But he always goes back To Socom !

Great game. Love the seriousness.

[MainEv3nt 69]

they dont call it SoCrack for nothing

[Panthers]

So give it the respect it deserves and fix it. And release new maps already. Ive stopped playing for a month but will go back once 1.5 comes out

[Nick5538]

and has been since the PS2, and for whatever reason Sony doesn't fund it!! It angers me that Confrontation has the potential to be the best online game on any console, but Sony has pushed it aside in favor of games with less dedicated and hardcore communities. Really, what is Sony thinking? How could they possibly ruin their most popular online franchise? Disagree all you want, but Sony has dropped the ball in their decision-making many times this generation.

[Panthers]

100% agree.

The only reason I have stopped playing is because I am busy now, but once new maps come out I know I will be on every night again.

[rob6021]

Yea I was definitely disappointed when they gave this game the short end of the stick budget wise - the gameplay is great and gives the socom 2 feel - but still seems to be lacking in the presentation department and doesn't quite have the polish of COD/KZ2/Res2. To me it seems like they just needed one of the bigger studios working on the game. Really hoping Zipper gets the whole add more players = more fun out their system with MAG, and returns to make us an 8vs8 socom once again.

[Panthers]

Not sure what this says about the other PS3 games though. I mean Socom averages about 11-12K per night. Still, it is good to see the new Socom holding up in this gen.

[Raf1k1]

I think it says more about the fanbases than the games.

[Chubear]

I don't think they're talking about amount of people online but rather the proportion of gamers that are constantly on. R2, KZ2 etc sold way more than SOCOM:Con and obviously have more gamers online but when you look at the average or better yet the proportion of people who bought the games, SOCOM seems to stand out with a higher proportion of it's users in it on a constant basis.

I'll read it once more to make sure I understood the article properly.

[Panthers]

Socom does have the BEST fanbase of any game I have ever played. And the most passionate. I think /6 learned that really fast. We want our game to be great because there is no other game we will play. No game has measured up to the skill and strategy Socom requires.

[PotNoodle]

It is a brilliant game now it has been fixed (mostly), i love it. I'm not really surprised by this.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

SOCOM started the masses with online gaming on consoles. What we need is some DLC?! Slant 6, are you listening?

[Double Toasted]

started everyone on console online gaming? WOW, you just blew my mind...

[PirateThom]

SOCOM was the second online game I played, after CounterStrike.

Everyone remembers Halo 2 being a big online title, but no one remembers SOCOM was about 2 years earlier.

[PotNoodle]

Exactly, while Halo did do great things for online console play.

What people seem to forget was how much Socom did too, it was extremely popular back in the day, i loved socom back then.

I'm not saying it started it off, because it didn't really - but it did certainly help.

[Double Toasted]

Seriously though, Socom takes time and effort to build up skill...it takes skill.

[DelbertGrady]

Do wonder why they never post any numbers. Do wonder. ;)

[fuckoffodion]

do wonder why you're here when you're just a troll and never played the game. Do wonder.

Oh yea, douchebot!!!!!

[ToastyMcNibbles]

because microsoft posts enough numbers already

[Gun_Senshi]

I wonder whats the use of numbers when there are more then enough people daily online at any time to play? They could have less people then there are currently, its kinda annoying finding every damn lobby full

[The_Beast]

then talking about how much it sold. oh wait.. im sorry you must own an xbox so u got no games to play

[Mr Tretton]

I'm still not bothering until a proper Zipper made Socom 4.

[raztad]

Zipper next BIG thing (literally) is MAG.

[BlackTar187]

how bad zipper was and im a socom fanatic but i can remember all the glitches exploits lag etc. zipper didn't appease there community one bit only took them 2 years of promising to release the maps and then you had to buy a $10 magazine for 1 of them at a time. I love zipper i love socom but zipper was so far from there fan base it was like they didnt care. lol thep patches that gave more problems and what there were 2 of them for the whole how many years of socom 2? the cheating was never fixed people and thinking zipper was so good its hilarious the game was . now not thats its a bad thing but whats different other then grenade throwing distance run speed and weapons between this and socom(i understand those make different games) but to think zipper going to make a socom with lighting fast running again or grenade throws 2 miles long is laughable.

[Panthers]

THANK YOU BLACKTAR. I mean everyone is going goo goo ga ga over MAG, but Zipper was horrible before. They had ZERO communication with the fanbase and they made Socom 3 which was terrible. Sure they had in game message boards and news updates, but the boards had 0 monitoring and we got a news update like once a year.

MAG is going to be crap. I would bet on it.

[Mr Tretton]

I think you guys are failing to understand that the PS2 was bad for online, period. Any problems were just as much Sony's fault, just like it was Sony's fault for rushing out Socom:C

I'll problem try C when I can find it for cheap. Socom 4 would be a long ways away.

I am more interested in MAG though. I prefer 1st person

[BlackTar187]

that has nothing to do with what we said. So because of sony Zipper promised patches for years sand never delivered? so because of sony zipper promised maps and delivered 2 years later thats sony fault as well? I understand your point but i think with what were talking about its mute. sony has there hands in there somewhere but not 2 years of somewhere and i also dont see how its sony's fault for the message boards or zippers bottomless promises? Im not calling anyone a saint and i do know what your talking about but i think for what were saying here sony if any had some very slight part of it. sony wasn't saying hey tell people about the maps and release them 2 years later sony wasn't saying hey tell them were gonna fix the game and never do it. sony wasn't saying hey don't listen to your message boards is all im saying.

I tread this fine line i still like zipper and i want that to be apparent but i also dont want people to pull this sheet over there eyes because the internet has a bad memory in reality zipper fell thru on almost every promise they made for socom 2 and 3 and CA was lame to me. but now that slant six did a terrible job and have spent hrs on hrs making it up zipper is some king who was 100 helpful it make sme sick to my stomach just like the confrontation release difference is Slant six has spent days rectifying there problems and mis truths where zipper never said anything and kept promising over and over and over again and to what end 3 maps $10 each right before socom 3 came out?

to me slant six dug them selves a whole so deep it took a miracle to get out and though there not out yet they made it closer then zipper did when it comes to time line promise and effort.

this is all opinion shared by most of my socom 1,2,3 clans about 60 of us which is alot but hardly a percent so take it for what it is opinion.

I just think somehow zipper avoided allot of hate i heard everyday playing those games on ps2 and now that someone messed up on it as well they got to shake there etch a sketch clean like it never happen? I don't thinks o.

That said MAG is gonna be tight i hope : )

I want to reiterate i understand your postioton and i think there is alot of weight in it im just not ready to thorow all away and say zipper is hella good they made a great game yes but support was terrible and misleading. But nice convo man Game ON

[RAM MAGNUMS]

All socom games have had thier problems with lag, glitching & cheating.
But just like the old days when the game has been out for a while , it's really easy to find a full game with socomers who play the game it meant to be. Slant 6 may be slow with the patch but the gameplay, audio & mic/voice chat is the best I've ever played.

Ak47s snap
M4s rip
Grenades are always surpringly loud that your are never prepared to hear em & when you do it's frightening.
Us socomers are a rowdy, whiny & sarcastic bunch but when were greened up & good to go, you better be ready because were vicious dogs of war.

[LevDog]

One thing Ive noticed about EVERY Socomer.. Including myself.. Everyone thinks they are the best and every Death is BULLSH!T hahaha and that they lagged.. I think getting shot in the back is the only time noone yells BULLSH!T over the mic

[Chubear]

@OP, you what I've always been peed off about with editorial reviewers? They blasted this game on launch window issues and used that to significantly bring down their ratings... but they refused to use the SAME EXACT STANDARDS for a games like Gears of War3 and Assasin's Creed both of which were plagued with bugs and Gear's online was severely messed up during it's launch for weeks and STILL has problems but were given 9.5s and 10s.

I've always wondered why the double standards with reviewing mainly 1st&2nd party exclusive games.

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Left 4 Dead
Gears of war 1 & 2
Halo 1,2 &3
Call of duty world at war online only.
Battlefield bad company & 1943 online.

My opinion is Fact. Better Game.

[Chubear]

It launched with a $60 price tag, shoddy animations, plain jane objectives and lack luster graphics and servers but it wasn't blasted by most NA editorial reviewers and bathed in 4s

But(for $40) SOCOM:con comes out and surpass that game in every single area except for perhaps # of maps with similar launch issues as gears2 but got roasted. I just never understand reviewers standards. It looks like that just cut and fit however they want to or are told to.

[-MD-]

Did you really just say your opinion is fact? What a joke.

[red2tango]

I played SOCOM ever since it came out. SOCOM 2 was huge and I played the game until Confrontation came out. Yes, it was a bad launch, but who cares? The game was fixed and the 1.5 patch will add every thing any SOCOM fan would want. The 1.6 patch will give us new guns and factions for free.

SOCOM is a realistic game that requires skill. It's like real life, there's no second chance. Take out as many people and stay alive to insure your team wins.

Hell I bought Resistance 2 and thought it was amazing and then it died out. I thought Killzone 2 will be the only game I play and I stopped playing it. SOCOM will forever be the game to play for me.

[LevDog]

If thats True.. Then I guess miracles really do happen

[Chubear]

... erm, what do you mean R2 "died out"? R2 online is packed even at 3am in the morning o.o

[red2tango]

Resistance 2 died for me. I almost beat the game and I got corrupted data and I replayed the game just to have it complete but felt no enjoyment doing it. Resistance 1 had a better weapons system and Resistance 2 was an attempt at being the average FPS. The online is still live same as Killzone 2 which is good it's just that to me it's not that good where SOCOM is based on clans and working as a team.

gM* top 10 SOCOM clan

[_Q_]

The Socom base has always been stable so thats cool to see. Im also glad there arent a crap load of people in here complaining the game is broken seeing the game plays fairly well these days.

[Omega4]

Would of thought online FPS would be more popular on the PS3

[PotNoodle]

The Call of duty games are probably higher on the chart of PSN activity, he is just saying that out of the first party games, Socom is higher than Killzone 2 and Resistance 2.

[Panthers]

SOCOM >>> Than any FPS ever made.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

I would have thought that a subtle attempt to troll would have been slightly less obvious.
What confuses you more? The fact that the PS3 online community is a strong,diverse group that values variety or that all attempts to prove otherwise have failed.With games like LBP,Warhawk,MGO,Socom,Wipeout, etc.etc,why would one limit themselves to playing FPS games only? Variety is the key.Of course you already know this......

[vShinobi]

game is horrible, traded it in a week after i bought it only good thing i got out of it was the headset.

Double True.

[Panthers]

It is so much better than when it came out. Too bad you missed out.

[-MoOkS-]

SOCOM used to be the best online game on ANY platform. Socom 1 and 2 > counterstrike, halo 2, cod4

Socom 3, CA and confrontation are nothing but garbage though

[MGOelite]

as long as you can deal with a few bugs (if you cant you will despise socom confrontation) you will love socom if you liked the first and second

[Gun_Senshi]

correction, socom at launch. Socom on PS3 has been patched so much its bug free now

[Kleptic]

I still never tried it...played a lot of Socom 1 and 2 in college...and yeah, it was great...never played 3 though, and heard it was pretty bad...

but I avoided confrontation because of the launch bugs...and have not gotten around to even trying it...killzone 2 is excellent for me, and there are always tons of game available...just wish they would patch in a 1 death option for certain game modes...

[Gun_Senshi]

Socom is like Counter Strike for Consoles.

Comunity is mature. There are like 6 English Europe Channels all full (256 players each) daily. Everyone has mic. It takes SKILL to win game. People play to win not run and spray to get kills (not that if you spray and run around get yuou kills)

SOCOM is how online shooters should be. I'm fed up of lame run and gun noob feast. SOCOM is tactic and requires skill.

[mcgrawgamer]

convinced me it was much improved after the last update it received. As a huge socom guy on the ps2 I was extremely upset with the game when it first came out. However as of last saturday I've been playing the game everyday for the past week and a half. Aside from a little lag and seeing two guys glitch on game I'm hooked back on SOCOM. All they need now is to add some new maps and I'm good to go. Between TF2 on the pc and SOCOM I havent touched any other games in a while.

That all changes tomorrow with Fat Princess though.

[Panthers]

www.socom.com

They are working on new maps. One of them is Vigilance updated with snow. That is the only one they have shown so far.

[mcgrawgamer]

that's good news.

on a side note.

Always good to see a fellow panther fan in the fold.

I assume your a Carolinian as well?

[spunnups]

Socom has been the only online multiplayer game I have ever played where people actually use their mics communicate, strategize and work out a plan. Nothing out there even comes close, unless your apart of a clan or gamebattles.

[Shortstop]

I traded mine back in awhile ago, but if the community still enjoys it, maybe I'll consider picking it up again. Most other games don't have very good communication between strangers and I simply don't have the time to spend on clan matches.

I still like the oldschoolness of BF1943 though. Tough call...

[phantomexe]

I enjoy online games like kz2 and r2 but socom the people are way to into it like they have no life but to live in that game.I'm not saying its a bad game it's preety good really but you can't play it long without someone biching about what your doing or why your not gurading the right building.It's not new user friendly to socom so i preety much gave up on it.

[red2tango]

LMAO this is actually true. It's mostly because people who have Confrontation have been playing Socom since the PS2 era and it's not a mindless FPS like Call of Duty. You actually have to have strategy and skill along with communication. I'm not gonna click disagree, but I do actually have a life, SOCOM is for late nights for clan games, sorry bud.

[Ju]

I would agree with phantom, but I wouldn't say it that harsh. I enjoyed it when I played it. But not having played Socom online before it is a bit tough to get into the game as a newcomer. But, there is no game out there which rewards you for a single kill like Socom does. And morons are everywhere in any other game as well (and sometimes not intentionally, I think. More like out of the situation). Just ignore them.

[San Frandisco]

Socom may of not BROUGHT online into play but it sure as hell made it Popular on consoles... it eccelerated the online play there after VERY FAST,with so many Developers afterwards incorporating online play into their games.

socom:confrontation may of not had the best of starts but i give a sh!t load of props to slant 6 for all their efforts to fix the problems and still continue to this day... theres no other game like socom confrontation on any other consoles,and probably wont be for a while.

just waiting impatiantly for DLC .. grrrr

[RAM MAGNUMS]

You're right man!
It's because when you lose a battle you actually feel it.
It's sucks to get shot. Being blind sided is the worst because it's the bullet you don't hear that hits you LOL!
Like being electrocuted you can't say anything & if you do it's bullsh1t!!! so that you're team doesn't think your are a loser because you went 1 kill 16 deaths. Those run & gunners with subs are usually the whiny culprits.

I like to post corners & help out.

Morganfell,
I think the main reason why people find it easier to communicate is because they know what it's like to try & be a 1man army in Socom. You will be shot from so many different angles all because the enemy called out your position. "look at this a$$ by himslf in the alley" everybody unloads on you. But if you have another pair of eyes covering you & watching out for flanks it makes the game less stressful. Calling out a enemy before dying is the next best thing to a kill. You can always find a guy to team up with who has the same playstyle as you too. "I feel like rushing the spawn, who's with me?" , "need a sniper here on our second level, middle building".

It works & it's pure fun.

[Chubear]

Oh goodness you just made me have an over whelming need to go put SOCOM in and have a couple of games XD

[monkey602]

Socom is the game I just keep going back to. My favourite online game at the moment. I love it. But you guys gotta stop with the "mature players" cr@p. I've played with far too many fools on there for that to be true

Just being honest

[JonnyBigBoss]

One of the best tactical shooters on the market only hindered by a bad release.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

...i have only got 'Halo 3' to play!!! :-( (Gears 2 don't work on-line right)

Thought Micro$oft's game console(xBox 360)was easy to program for???
I say that because if it is, i should be getting 1 'AAA' Game a month???
Shouldn't i???
I don't get it???...
Oh well off to check my 'Halo Wars' Stats on the PERFECT 'ChatBox LIVE!'...W...T...F!!!...
Where have they gone!!!???... ;-D

[Rich1631]

Great game to play since it has a mature and competitive community. But it still doesn't change the fact that it is a poorly made game, though

Menu's lag terribly
Super long load times (90 seconds plus) for a game with a mandatory 3 gig install and mediocre graphics, is unacceptable
So much texture pop-in
Sections of Urban Wasteland and Quarantine maps disappear
Invisible Walls in Urban Wasteland and Crossroads
Invisible player bug
Invisible hostage bug
Invisible gun bug
Grenade Indicator arch doesn't work
Quick swap is broken
Stats reset if you don't play for a week
Worst animations in a next gen video game ever!

Fun but buggy as hell.

[Gun_Senshi]

sorry but nowdays there are no bugs, when you launch it you need 800 mb DOWNLOAD PATCH

[Rich1631]

As of last night, all of these bugs I mentioned were still present. So I don't know what you are talking about. I am still waiting on the 1.5 patch that was announced in March.

[Gun_Senshi]

right now i saw no bug and i been playing for 3 hours straight

[JROCK]

Because socom is the most tactical shooter,not taking away from cod but that respawn crap is for noobs.

[SRuN4]

Yet we still get no support or information about whats going on with patches and DLC. Just think, this SOCOM isn't even near what the online numbers were for SOCOM 2. Peak hours for Confrontation are 12k when peak hours for SOCOM 2 was 25-30k.

[raztad]

Interesting numbers btw. Do NOT forget PS3 installed base is not, by any means, close to PS2's. Besides, socom was the only real online game on PS2. That situation has obviously changed. Just Sony's FPs/shooters are enough to spread thin PS3 fanbase, but additionally there is COD, Battlefields,etc.

[Alcohog]

Great game, I would have to agree that I've played it online more than any other game in the past year.

[Shadow Man]

Bu bu but Killzone2??

[rukia_chan]

BUT BUT TOO HUMAN????

[fuckoffodion]

Bu Bu bu But speech impediment???

[Etseix]

BU BU BU BUT SKATE OR DIE! :D

[Enzo]

GOD I HOPE SLANT 6 SEES THIS THREAD AND REALIZE HOW MUCH GAMERS LOVES THIS FRANCHISE.

[matchgrade]

I tried really hard to like SOCOM. I bought it RECENTLY (after all the patching) with the understanding that it would be a challenging game to learn, and even harder to master. I was expecting fierce competition from serious gamers, and I got what I was expecting. But pretty quickly I realized why I wasn't enjoying it. It just wasn't fun. I knew the game was made to be hardcore, but if you have a game where you have to be 100% serious about it all the time and can't have any room for error while playing, then the game just isn't an enjoyable experience. And if it's not that, then what's the point of playing videogames?

[Britney Spears]

It's cause it has the name socom,confrontation sucks though and doesn't have many players so i am confused right now. I think he meant around when the game released,people thought they were getting a real socom and didn't so now it's a ghost town. Here's hoping for an actual real socom next time...

[Gun_Senshi]

you must be britney spears really. only someone with low IQ can say comment like yours.

Warcraft was broken 1st 4 months of launch in US. Now look nowdays.

SOCOM:C was broken at launch, patches fixed everything now its over flooded with people. searching for a match you find only full matches

[terrandragon]

So if SOCOM can do it, why do you haters say that Gears 2 is going to be broken forever? They are rolling out updates too you know.

[No_NaMe]

On ps2,

[matchgrade]

okay.

[mario888]

I'm a huge Socom fan but I only Play Killzone 2 right now. Killzone takes Competitive gaming to the next level with it Clan Tournament Game Battles.

[chisox100]

kz2 is much better and deeper but Socom is amazing. It's a hardcore shooting fan's dream.

[PHIL1017]

what about uncharted 2 mp?

[Father Murder X]

Sony really didn't give SOCOM any love. They treated it like a stepchild. Sony was so focused on KZ2 and R2 that they forgot about Socom and that is a damn shame!!