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Valve does it again: The Spitter is from the community

As if this wasn't a big enough slap in the face to the community, the reveal to the new Special Infected known as the Spitter is, yet again, a direct-from-the-community idea that Valve has put in for L4D2. The biggest kicker to it? It's from one of the co-creators of the L4D2 boycott group.

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Pandamobile5391d ago

There was a whole thread on Facepunch and the Steam forums where hundreds of people threw around boss zombie ideas and people get upset when Valve comes up with the same idea?

On a side note, I'd feel flattered if a game company used my idea.

LostChild5390d ago

Or anyone for that matter. It shows that they are listening to their fans/community and found my ideas interesting enough to implement them into their games or what have you.

On thing I do hate about submitting ideas, is when a company/person say that they came up with the idea all by themselves or try to claim they have been working on the same idea for over 2yrs or so. I keep telling them I don't want their money. I have my own.

But I will never forget this till the day I die; I created this character called Samurai Spawn. http://agent19xs.deviantart... It was an idea I submitted for a comic-book called the Curse of Spawn. It was supposed to be a book about various types of Spawn characters, but it went in a totally different direction. Well anyway, a few yrs later Todd McFarlane came out with his own version of a Samurai Spawn and stated in an article that he came up with the character concept/idea all by himself. "Wow!" was all I could say. It was a big let down, to read that coming from someone who's artwork inspired you to keep drawning. But Jim Lee's myfavorite now.

Blaze9295390d ago

well this is where you guys are getting it wrong. There is a clear difference of developers using the community's "ideas" and using the community's "DESIGN". This is not a "idea" its a straight character design. I dunno about you but for a DESIGN I would like to have the option to say hey, I made that character and valve used it and theres my name somewhere in the credits.

Ideas, ideas are like "hey Valve, it'd be cool if there was a "forge" mode where we could save replays and make little horror movies". Thats an IDEA I would be happy about if Valve used.

Clear difference, and this is just stealing. People LIKE it when there IDEAS make it into the game becuase it's what they WANT in the game to make it an overall experience. When their DESIGNS make it into the game that really dont affect the experience at all, that's when people get mad especially for not being credited.

Again, "I have an idea that L4D2 should have power ups" = good. "Wow wait a minute...i created that character! Sure you did" = bad.

zagibu5390d ago

Ideas are a dime a dozen, or in other words: nothing special. Everyone has them.

rawrockkillz5391d ago

Agreed, I would be excited to have an idea of mine used in a game. It just shows that Valve pays attention to the forums and the community, which is something that not very many game developers do.

Vespertine5391d ago (Edited 5391d ago )

Yeah I agree.

It's ridiculous that people are getting angry over this.
Quite laughable actually.

ChampIDC5390d ago (Edited 5390d ago )

Basically...

Developer listens to community and uses their idea. People rage.

Developer doesn't listen to ideas of community. People rage.

That's just how the Internet works! Some people can always find something to get angry about. I too would be thrilled if they used an idea of mine.

FantasyStar5390d ago (Edited 5390d ago )

I think you miss the point here. Ask yourself, why is there an L4D2 Boycott? Because they feel like the game is overpriced and unjustified. Then when the game itself contains content and ideas that one of the co-creators of the L4D2 Boycott feels should be free. Well I'd be pretty pissed too. Especially since he can't do anything about it because he posted it on their forums, which is considered Valve's property now. Again, pissed not only because his ideas are going towards a game he hates, there's nothing he can do about legally to stop it.

And to makes matters worst, Valve is the one making money off the community's ideas. That which the L4D2 Boycott certainly shouldn't be fond of.

Unicron5391d ago

Spitting zombies aren't exactly new or original however.

pixelsword5390d ago

Zombies spit-up on the first Resident Evil.

And Michael Jackson's Thriller.

JD_Shadow5391d ago

Umm...so WHEN did this guy think up of this new infected? Probably BEFORE Valve announced L4D2! Probably thought it would've been added into the game as DLC content.

The slap in the face...that isn't.

Xi5391d ago (Edited 5391d ago )

so valve was able to.
1. steal the idea
2. develop the proper game mechanics
3. develop the chracter concept
4. develop the character art (modle/textures)
5. animate and voice the character
6. test everything

all within the timeframe of the person posting his comment and the unvieling of the character...

Unicron5391d ago

That would take about a month or so of work.

Or they just took the idea from Slither. =)

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15 Xbox Games That Should Make the Multiplatform Jump

While there’s likely already a list behind closed doors, one can still speculate and offer logical suggestions for titles new and old that should find their way into the PlayStation and Switch libraries.

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GamerRN43d ago

Single A games and live service games. Those make sense

S2Killinit43d ago

None of it makes sense. But its happening.

Ps5conehead42d ago

That’s up to Microsoft they want return on there investment. From buying up those publishers. That’s what there in business for. And they made a mistake putting day one exclusive on game pass. So now Microsoft wants to profit any way they can.its called buisness . Just like Sony putting games on pc a year are two after ps5 launch.
So if they can make money off PlayStation and Nintendo. They will do that. And I bet soon real soon they will release some aaa exclusives .and I bet one day it will be same day release

TheEroica42d ago

Sony gamers begging for Xbox games.... Who would've thunk it?

BISHOP-BRASIL42d ago

Yeah, because random site off the internet represents all Sony gamers, they have the letter of attorney and all...

S2Killinit42d ago

Lol what a spin. You dizzy?

AsunaYuukiTheFlash42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

We don’t care about shovelwares. Get that junk out of PS5

StormSnooper42d ago

More like MS begging to put their games on PlayStation.

TheEroica40d ago

Keep begging Sony gamers!

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Friendlygamer43d ago

Some of these seem to be exclusive for lack of enthusiasm of the publisher rather than because of deals. A lot of cool indies skip ps for some reason like katana zero, el paso, elsewhere and gunbrela

S2Killinit43d ago

Even more indies skip xbox. We know that right?

Friendlygamer42d ago

Quality over quantity, Microsoft got some really interesting and curated niche games on their machines, maybe in part because of gamepass

S2Killinit42d ago

Quality and MS are not things you bring up in same sentence.

shinoff218342d ago (Edited 42d ago )

Alot of indies skip xbox to. It goes round and round. Personally I think your off base on that but no need to have the argument.

Friendlygamer42d ago

Between katana zero, valheim, Battletech, el passo... I don't feel off base. maybe ps got a million of light novel games that will never release on Xbox but like I've said, I'm talking about niche games highlights, the 10%.

  Heck, it's probably thanks to Microsoft that the s.t.a.l.k.e.r games came to console ps included, meanwhile Sony backwards compatibility continues to be extremely anemic.

And I'm sure most ps5 users are happy to ignore these games and just play wathever new 3rd person action game is trending but it's cool that Microsoft gives some love to smaller audiences and software preservation

shinoff218342d ago

Again your off base just to be snide. All it's showing though is your ignorance.

One light novels wtf is that even. Ps has plenty of pretty damn good indies.

Speaking of indies and ms being responsible. You know F.I.S.T. of course you do alot of you guys just support gamepass. Well here's a history of Sony being responsible for helping indies. Look up the China project from Sony.

Lastly lol your ignorance showing again. Sony has plenty of games. Personally third person is better then first anyway but that's besides the point. Sony gets so many games that xbox doesn't get because yall don't support the games. Jrpgs being a great example. I personally am not into every Sony first party game. Alot of us aren't. On the other side you don't get to eat often so you gobble up everything. Me personally God of War not my cup, etc. For me I'm into jrpgs and ms just can't touch Sony on those. Again because the Xbox base doesn't support it. Devs dont wanna waste their time or money. Hit me up when falcom develops a game over there.

Speaking of third person narrative games. Aren't yall drooling over hellblade 2. The first one was Sony exclusive at one point. Another not my cup game. Showing we don't have to fall in line and agree we love everything Sony puts out. The facts are they sell though unlike elsewhere(not nintendo)

StormSnooper42d ago

You are same person as GamerRN, yes?

Abnor_Mal42d ago

They really think PlayStation fans would want to play Redfall? Pfft.

Personally nothing on that list would be any game I’d want to play.

TwoPicklesGood42d ago

I’d absolutely love Hellblade 2, Palworld, and Quantum Break on ps5 as I’m sure tons of others would too. There’s nothing wrong with wanting games from another console and its sad that people try to act like they aren’t interested in them.

shinoff218342d ago

While indont agree with the games. I agree with the point. Your not wrong.

DarXyde42d ago

Sunset Overdrive makes very good sense. Palworld might.

Don't know about the others. Hellblade II does make sense given the original launched on PS4 first. Quantum Break was a massive letdown for me. I absolutely hated the whole TV show thing and I don't think anyone should have to relive that on modern hardware.

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Valve Made Left 4 Dead 2 Because The First Game Was A Broken Mess

Left 4 Dead lead Chet Faliszek describes the original Left 4 Dead game as "such a broken thing that nobody wanted to touch it."

Number1TailzFan154d ago

And then couldn't be arsed to make a third game.

If they can add a lot more stuff to a 2nd game in just 1 year why didn't they make a third game a few years later with tons of stuff extra? Because that shows they could've.

I know Source 2 was kind of broken and was a reason they cancelled L4D3 but it seems wasteful to just toss it away.

Don't know what Valve were thinking.. it's like nobody wanted to fix the issues to get going. They certainly aren't the Valve of 2004 that released fun games with pretty cutting edge graphics.

cthulhucultist152d ago

Valve is allergic to number 3 it seems. It would be easier for them to release a Left 4 Dead 2.5 enhanced version instead of releasing a game with "3" slapped on its title.

rakentaja152d ago

They stopped making games a long time ago. Steam brings in so much money that it's really not worth the effort. Nowadays, people only look for faults in games, and spend more time whining on Twitter/X than playing the game anyway. Valve says a big fat no-no.

anast152d ago

Value is the Blockbuster of video games. They have no need to invest in deving a game, when they can make handfuls of cash renting them.

-Foxtrot154d ago

What are they talking about? Seemed pretty alright to me at launch it just wasn't supported the way Valve promised us

They should have just worked on a revamp / massive update to the game but they didn't they jumped straight to a sequel with brand new characters despite having some sort, if small, story about where the original survivors were heading.

I didn't care for the direction they took the sequel, the original games tone and atmosphere was missing in the second game and is still unmatched. Daytime levels, more whackiness, melee weapons where you could attack a Tank with a frying pan...just wasn't the same to be honest and the new survivors just didn't hold up the originals.

Here's my speculation. I think they did a sequel because they didn't want to update a game co-developed by Turtle Rock, they wanted the franchise to be known as a Valve game only and knew if they updated the first one Turtle Rocks name would still linger on it.

shaenoide152d ago

I want broken games like L4D all day long...

GhostScholar152d ago

Well the first game was by far the best

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The Best Co-Op Horror Games You've Missed in Halloween

Try to cope with your friend through terror with this list featuring the best horror Co-Op games you can play today.

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