Halo 2 vs Halo 3 Screenshot Comparison

Side-by-side screenshot comparison of Halo 2 and Halo 3 for the Xbox 360.

[eques judicii]

IMHO -- that the beta feed was from the beta running at 480i. The interlacing is much to spaced out to be 1080i and the screen format looks 4:3 (which is typical of a SDTV not HDTV)... so, i'll wait for true HD feed from the Beta.. namely, when i'm playing it.

although, i do think it looks better... but the leap in quality cannot be judged to easily.

[Wargasm]

Man the motion shots look so bad because they are obviously both interlaced... which really goes to show you why progressive scan is better.

[dantesparda]

But this sh!t looks fvcking weak! barely better than part 2, and stop making excuses, y'all sound pathetic doing it. You pathetic sweating bastards! WEAK!!!

Part 2 looks better for its time and system. And @ "Firewire" I also liked part 1 better than part 2. I felt that part one was harder and the boards longer, and i felt like i accomplished a something after i beat the game. Part 2 while looked better, just wasnt the same to me, not bad, but just not as good to me

And P.S. y'all know this looks disappointing, dont front

[Skizelli]

Since when was Halo ever about graphics? The graphical difference between Halo 2 and 3 is much broader than the difference between Halo 1 and 2. Halo 3 looks leaps and bounds better than Halo 2. At a noob's glance, you won't be able to tell this. I played the crap out of the first two. 3 has way more detail than 2. As many people have said, Halo has its own graphical style. Why change it? It's not aiming to look like Gears of War or Crysis. If all you people care about is graphics, you should quit playing video games.

[God of Gaming]

Lets wait until we can see H3 in its full finished glory in HD, then we can have side by sides like this. Otherwise we are looking at a old build of a map that will not see the light of day till the Fall. Even at that you can see its far above what H2 is but imagine it in full HD.

[gta_cb]

i agree and remember guys this is a beta, and its gameplay then graphics

[PS3 Owns All]

Looks the same to me. Slightly better Halo 3 is than Halo 2. Not
a huge jump. The only thing extra they will have is special effects.

[BUM]

"Even at that you can see its far above what H2 is but imagine it in full HD."

This is exactly why I was posted comparison.

[Capt CHAOS]

This looks great, The true test will be the final release, but you can see the little attention to detail they have paid and they will all add up to a very polished product. Can't wait!

[MoonDust]

Let's wait for a finish version. This map is not even going to be in the Beta.

[Rooted_Dust]

Looks like they're paying more attention to the environments than anything else, good thing too, Halo2's looked like something out of GoldenEye.

[Sashy]

Lol, its almost like the same engine as halo 2 !! Lol :D

And you know what ?! Halo 3 wont be in full HD 1080p, it will only be in 720p !!! Suxars

[MoonDust]

Pre-order now! All douche bags get 50% off! GO GO GO! You should be able to get it for free.

[The Real Joker]

Quit being nine years old.

[gapzi11a]

Do your parents know you're on the internet?

[consolewar]

Seriously guys, Sashy speaks the truth.

Halo 3 looks UGLY.

Halo 2 > Halo 3

Flamewars FTW

[BIadestarX]

Did you know that master chief will be in Halo 3?

[Wargasm]

Oh YEAH?!? well your stupid spam! just like sashy-mc-smells-bad

I would almost rather have halo 3 running on 720p native. Not only can i not run 1080p, but the graphics would be better on 720p because there wouldn't be as much processing and graphics power wasted on the extra pixels.

just think about it.... how could there be life like images on 480i television? bigger resolutions aren't the answer.

[Vfor5]

Wargasm speaks the truth.

[marionz]

oh sorry you pic confused me

anyway yes it looks bad at this point, ive always thought the videos ive seen of halo 3 have looked bad
but its still early days and we just have to wait till its doen, then we can say what the games like
plus they said the graphics would be better then gears of war, so they have alot to live up to!

[grunt360]

Is it past your bedtime? Go back to sleeping in your cot then when you are a big boy you can come and converse with the big people! Okay? Ok nighty night little one...

You are just jealous that the Xbox 360 has more exclusives than the PS3 has games.

[bobbybrown]

there is no way this game will graphically beat killzone, as everybody said before they released h3 footage

[Qbanj69]

beat killzone.... by the looks of these screens ill be surprised if it beats resistance.

[JOLLY1]

You have seen kill zone pics? I mean real killzone pics! Do share!!! There is not a person on the whole internet that has seen these yet. You must be a very "special" person to have seen actual gameplay of killzone. I am sure you are impressive.

[chitown]

what are u, stupid???

[Firewire]

Not a Halo fan after the second one , I liked the first one though . And I currently do not own a 360 but from the screeen shots, it looks like the detail is better same with the lighting. Also blue skies!

[zonetrooper5]

You have no idea how good Killzone will look, if you really think they will match the CGI trailer from 2005 then your an idiot. Anyways, back on to Halo 3, them pictures show how much better the lighting and textures are compared to Halo 2.

If any other Sony fanboys come in here and try to mess this news up then i will kick your ass :P seriously though, if you hate Halo or are a fanboy of Sony, PC, Nintendo etc and hate MS and 360 then please don't post in here.

[Black Republican]

who said this will beat killzone??? (bsides Xbots lol)
I don't even think this game will beat Gears Of War.

But ppl do not buy Halo because of the graphics.

[techie]

I think Halo will have some of the best graphics we will have seen. That's my opinion though. I also felt that bungie did all their polishing at the last stages...unlike Factor 5 who have a robust Alpha. What do you think?

[Rooted_Dust]

I don't think either of the first Halo games surpassed all other in graphics department. I don't know about Halo but Halo 2 was definitely outdone by Half life 2. At least this time around the environments don't look like they are just built out of square bricks.

[Schmitty07]

They seems a lot more alive in H3 than in H2.

[Diselage]

There is no way this should've been put on the front page with this title. This is just inviting a flame war, this is Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 beta.

[razer]

This is a beta.. Desperate fanboys will take whatever they can get to bash the other console even if they don't make sense. I was defending Lair for the PS3 because fanboys were attacking some of it's early previews just the same. This is an Xbox article everyone who doesn't own the console should be off playing Ninja Sigma demo. =)

[MONTY 187]

any1 seen any halo 2 beta pics, perhaps that would be easier to see the difference?

plus, i thought the recent video looked like it was recorded in some crap way, like a phone or something.

ah well will see the beta in HD soon....

[TheMART]

OMG you can't believe Sony droids...

This is Halo 2 final compared to Halo 3 Beta...
Have you seen how Halo 2 Beta/Alpha looked? That looked a lot A LOT worse then Halo 1 final.

So if Halo 3 Beta/Alpha is already on par with Halo 2 final plus better lightning and even better graphics... Imagine what it'll be in final. It'll blow away anything. And it might be in 1080p

Where are Killzone 2 screenshots? Nowhere?

[XxZxX]

Hello TheMart,
Let me enlightening you to software engineering cycle.
If an build reaches beta, there will be a feature freeze where no new features should be added in. The software will be tested on functionality and fixes will focus on patching the functionality. If a Beta is open to public, it mean that the software can be considered almost done. Now you know.

[MoonDust]

Because that map is not on the public beta. You don't know how bungie does things either. If bungie says this is how the game is going to look and it looks bad, then you can laugh and point.

[grunt360]

In response to the above comment.

As a matter of fact, the map showcased in this news post is "High Ground" a map similar to Zanzibar. Figures thats why they did a comparison on them...

[bootsielon]

...not Gears of War better, much less Xbox 2 better. Xbox 1.5 FTW

By the way, quit the damage control, Xbots. If this is already a Beta, then you can't really expect too much of an upgrade. Beta is the phase of near finalization, which means that the game is pretty much done, they are simply ironing the bugs out. So, if this is the Beta, then you're screwed, fanboys.

At least you can take comfort in the fact that it'll run in 1080p.

[Cartesian3D]

Halo doesnt need ur words..

ppl want Halo for best multiplayer exp and improved in all sides..( graphics,weapons,gameplay,sing leplayer ) ..

for sure Halo 3 wont push 360 to the limits like Gears.. but for sure it will have the most pro online gaming around..

and Halo2 beta was better than halo1 , same as ( 3 compare to 2 )now..

and final version will be better but dont expect too much. beta version means almost done and just add features and fix bugs.. not polishing graphics so much!

[bamdad]

yea man, i agree with this guy...i seriously do...you dont know the reason anywas

just learn to appreciate the goal of the game.

[grunt360]

I'd just like to make a point. Halo 3 WILL push the Xbox 360's limits, just like Halo 2 did with Xbox 1. But nobody-repeat NOBODY has seen final 1080p, 60fps footage of this game. Gears of War pushes the 360's hardware to the max, and because of all the hype surrounding Halo 3, I will place my house on the fact that Bungie will deliver on what they have promised. Oh and don't forget that this is the game that is going to kick Sony's large, sweaty ass.

[Nik]

the screens look like crap and hope the final version will be much better. Is that so difficult?

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

the BETA Halo 3 shots look many times better than the impressive but lesser Halo 2 shots!

Sony fools exit here. ]}:~)>

[hulk_bash1987]

Wow now thats over exaggerating abit man. Though I agree that there is a difference judging from these screenshot comparisons its just slightly better, however take into consideration that these were taken from the beta build so it wouldnt be fair to judge it so harshly. But then again speaking as a longtime fan of the series im alittle disappointed, however i'll reserve my judgement until a possible E3 showing of the game or sumtime closer to the release later this year.

[mr_steveo]

Ive been doing some tribal celtic dragon art, which may be turned into a tatoo.... Ive built up the basic structure based on a previous design (my current lil pic)... yet i havnt finished doing the shadows or inking it yet.... its basic structure is better in everyway to my prev drawing... but since i havnt done the details yet. does that make it cr*p? mayb in my case lol.... but the point is its not finished yet
Peace :)

[Odiah]

Haaaaaahahahahhahahahahahhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhaahahahahahahhhahahah ahah!!!!!

Let's move on.

[FadeToBlack]

I haven't seen any screen shots in high enough resolution to make any comments on how the final product will look in HD on my tv. So I will reserve my opinion on the graphics untill i see it running in HD on my tv, as should everyone else here giving opinions based on low res video and screen shots.

[ArduousAndy]

Dude what is going on with this world?

When the PS2 vs Xbox battle happened, the ps2 people were arguing that the ps2 is better since it has more games. The ps2 hence won. The xbox's arguement was that graphics were better on the that system.

Now the arguement has been reversed?

The 360 has the games and the ps3 has the graphics?

Make matters worse the ps3 people are waiting for Killzone 2 stating its going to look beautiful. Killzone sucked before why would they send us more? Yet now this mediocre game is going to be better cause of graphics?

Where as Halo 3 is going to be utter garbage cause of its graphics?

You guys seriously are all idiots. Graphics do not make a story. Its the story it self. By your argument 8 bit games are totally garbage since they no longer look pretty.

Get a clue and a life.

[Babylonian]

Have you ever played killzone, but the looks of it you haven't. The story of killzone was pretty good but the only thing was that it looked mediocre when compared with the Xbox.

That was because of the harware capabilties of the PS2, it's still very impresive for the PS2 but compared with Halo at that time it wasn't all that. It did get 7.5 from IGN don't forget that.

Now that the PS3 is out we will just wait and see what it is going to be. I think it's gonna blow you away. The PSP version got a 9 so why wouldn't this one be great. Halo is great too but Killzone will be better.

[Lygre]

Those pictures are just poorly taken photos of a screen that is showing a Halo 3 beta video. There are no way we can tell how the graphics in the beta will be untill we play it ourselves. And here is an official screenshot from the Halo 3 campaign: (It's an old picture as well..)

[iceice123]

If you knew anything about what you flame you would know the following:
The only ONLY maps they are confident that have enough polish for the public to see are the three in public beta. Frankie stated all the others were still very much being worked on. That's why the water sky and textures arn't that great. The final product will look like the Announcment trailer, and possibly better said Frankie.

Please idiots, learn a little about it then try again.

[Gamer13]

Halo 3 will be the best FPS when release.

IM OUT...///"""

[BUM]

"here is an official screenshot from the Halo 3 campaign"

where is it?

[iceice123]

He was going to link the screen shot of masterchief with the metal backround. The shot they released a while ago, alpha graphics.

[NINJARIFIK]

the new halo killer????? is halo 3. all the hype, all the in-your-face 360 fanboyism: for halo 2.1!!! awesome! ...just remember this when you are dogging on ps3 betas that come out, you guys will be the first jerks to comment on how graphics suck. but when it comes to your precious halo..heaven forbid we get a couple jabs in.

[id dot entity]

Don't care how good the game looks compared to Halo 2. I mean, it's like comparing Gears of War to Unreal Tournament 2004. It looks better. Oh'rly?

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

should think so primitively! HALO 3 is UTOPIANLY SUMPTUOUS. :)

[Quicksilva]

Atm I don't really know what to think. I love Halo and think the experience is really refined for consoles. As with most people I will wait for the actual beta running on my 40" 1080p screen before I pass any judgement on the graphics.

Can't wait till it's time to finish the fight!

[zonetrooper5]

Halo 3 Announcement FAQ

Q: What kind of game is Halo 3?
A: Halo 3 is a story-driven action game, a first-person shooter featuring the classic gameplay you've come to expect from Halo: Combat Evolved and Halo 2.

Q: What systems is Halo 3 available for?
A: Halo 3 is being made for the Xbox 360.

Q: When does Halo 3 come out?
A: Halo 3 will be released at an as-yet to be announced date in 2007. The final release date will be revealed at a future time.

Q: What kind of graphics can we expect from Halo 3?
A: Halo 3's graphics will include the features seen in the real-time trailer and more, these are rendered using a new graphics engine, making the most of next-gen features like HDR (High Dynamic Range) lighting, pre-computed radiance transfer, and much, much more. The game will also take full advantage of the Xbox 360's HDTV capabilities.

Q: Did you say real-time trailer?
A: Yes. The trailer shown at E3 in 2006 was rendered in real-time using the in-game engine. All of the assets shown were running on an Xbox 360 debug kit and the trailer was built using the current engine and development tools. The development process continues and new graphics features may be added or changed at any time.

Q: Does Halo 3 support Xbox Live?
A: Yes, Halo 3 supports all major features of Xbox Live although our game-specific features have not been announced at this time.

Q: What classic Halo features will be returning in Halo 3 ?
A: We have not announced any specific gameplay features at this time.

Q: Does Halo 3 support HDTV resolutions like 720p or 1080i?
A: Halo 3 will support all of the Xbox 360's output resolutions, same as every other game.

Q: What is the plot of Halo 3?
A: The details of the plot have yet to be revealed. Suffice to say, the Chief has returned to Earth. The Covenant has uncovered a massive and ancient artifact under the African soil and Cortana is still trapped in the clutches of the Gravemind.

Q: What's new in Halo 3?
A: Beyond the continuing story and new graphics features, we have not yet revealed any details about the content of Halo 3.

Q: Is this the last ever Halo game?
A: It is the conclusion to this story arc.

Q: Does Halo 3 support downloadable content?
A: We have not yet discussed those details.

Q: What was that crazy huge dome buried under Earth?
A: We're not saying, but Halo fans may recognize something about its design.

Q: I noticed the Master Chief's armor was scraped and damaged, what happened to him?
A: Lots of things.

Q: I also noticed Master Chief's gloves had changed. Does that mean it's Mjolnir Mark VII?
A: We haven't revealed that yet . Don't jump to any conclusions.

Q: Which characters will be returning in Halo 3?
A: Well as you can see from the trailer, at a minimum, we'll see the Chief and Cortana in some shape or form. And I believe Banshee pilots...

Q: What about the Music in Halo 3?
A: The same team responsible for Halo's award winning music and sound design are working on Halo 3.

Q: What's up with all the trumpets?
A: Could it be triumph? Or a musical exclamation point to signal a finale? It could be all kinds of things, but Marty is really outdoing himself this time.

Q: What about the Covenant civil war? Are Elites our friends now?
A: That's plot. Unless you see something in a new trailer, or spot a clue, you're not going to get any plot until the game ships. That's how we roll. You'll just have to play and see.

Q: Will the Arbiter be back?
A: See above.

Q: I spotted an Easter Egg in the trailer after I watched it a few times. How do you explain that?
A: The New Mombasa City Council had an incredibly efficient public works department until and even during the tragic and devastating Covenant invasion.

http://www.bungie.net/proje...

Halo 3 Announced

Bungie announces Halo 3, the third and final game in the Halo Trilogy. Halo 3 will be released for Microsoft's Xbox 360 in 2007.

Halo 3 E32006 Announcement Trailer
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The game was revealed to the world at the Microsoft press conference at Grauman's Chinese Theater, in Hollywood, CA . By the time you read this, the announcement trailer should be available for download on bungie.net and directly to your Xbox 360, in full HD glory from Xbox Live Marketplace. Read no further if you want to avoid spoilers.

Nobody saw it coming. Halo 3! Who knew? For the last year or two, people have speculated about what our next project was and surprisingly, in all that time, not a single person guessed that it would be Halo 3. Not one .

We declare it the best kept secret ever .

Seriously though, it's been a chore biting our tongues on this one. Call it a combination of studio secrecy, corporate secrecy, Bill Gates already announcing it four times and, you know, whatever.

We won't ruin the content of our short presentation by describing it frame by frame, but we will note that everything you're seeing here is being rendered in real-time on the Xbox 360, using the current version of our Halo 3 game engine. The HDR lighting, self-shadowing, GPU-run particle system and many other effects should make it intact (and more) to our final game.

"The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process"

We demonstrated the real-time nature of the demo after the press conference (thanks to our friends at Pioneer with awesome audio-video assistance) to a small group of reporters, so we'll wait and see what their judgment on the presentation was, but you should feel free to make your own.

The trailer was built to have minimum impact on the development process, and while it required long hours and hard work from many, many Bungie staffers, it utilizes real-game assets, fiction and locations from parts of the "real" game.

In fact, it's the stuff it doesn't contain that gives it a strange kind of context. You can see how detailed the Chief is, but that detail applies to our other, unseen, unrevealed characters, vehicles, environment and so on. There's no AI visible in the demo, no multiplayer, and the entire thing has been left deliberately subdued both to give scale to the artifact and because this is our announcement. The real stuff will come later.

Fans of Halo fiction will be able to guess at a vast array of possibilities, even from this short piece, and discuss them in our newly launched Halo 3 Forum . For those new to the series, we'll make every effort to bring you up to speed on the story in forthcoming Bungie.net updates. We'll also be resurrecting the true purpose of the Update-proper - a weekly diary on the progress of the game that has been stymied recently, by the absence of (reveal-able) information.

Of course the trailer itself is a teaser - with no multiplayer, a single Earth-based locale, none of our sweet new AI or gameplay technologies. No physics to speak of, no new features other than a sneak peek at the graphics and audio engines…but the other stuff is there, and we'll reveal more as time goes on.

"Cortana and the Chief being a galaxy apart is a situation we haven't seen before"

CJ Cowan, Bungie's director of cinematics discussed one of the most startling moments in the piece, the return of Cortana, "Given the variety of character and story arcs at the end of Halo 2, we wanted to boil down our announcement to a few key threads. Cortana and the Chief being a galaxy apart is a situation we haven't seen before, and is something that is a powerful component to Halo 3. We are using her transmissions in the demo to give the viewer a few subtle clues to her situation and state of mind, without revealing any specifics we want to save for the game itself."

The Cortana reveal is the first evidence that this trailer might be for Halo 3, but the game's main protagonist is the item that seals that deal. CJ explains, "It is the Chief, back on a devastated and Covenant controlled Earth, standing over the excavation of a structure buried in the crust of our own planet that is the meat of our demo."

"The questions raised by these images, and the feeling that our assumptions about the Halo universe are being challenged this late in the story is what I am personally most excited about leaving with our fans. That's the type of thing that builds anticipation even more for the payoff to this trilogy we are preparing."

CJ's long nights are far from over. Cinematics are going to be as vital a part of Halo 3 as they were in Halo 2 and Halo: Combat Evolved. As before, they will use the game engine to keep the player feeling like a part of the action.

"There is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust "

Graphically, the game follows closely in the tradition of Halo 2, although obviously upgraded to take advantage of the Xbox 360's more prodigious visual abilities. As art director Marcus Lehto explains, "It was intended to be an understated announce of Halo 3 - the tone is that of mystery and suspense – the calm before the storm. I wanted to make sure that we re-introduced the Chief, show that Earth is thoroughly conquered, with Covenant everywhere, and that there is a glorious, ancient artifact buried under the Earth’s crust which will provide H3 with the epic journey which we all want."

Asked about the battered state of the Chief's armor, Marcus ventured, "The Chief is shown as warrior who has seen horrific battle – and it shows. The Earth is dry, barren, ravaged by the Covenant."

Grim stuff, but then things were grim at the end of Halo 2 when we left the Chief and the fate of the galaxy hanging in the balance. A cliffhanger about which we received over twenty emails... cough.

Marty O'Donnell's music will no doubt be heard over and over again. We can relate. The Studio has been thundering with the brass and bass of the trailer music for weeks .

Marty hired a 60 piece orchestra and a 24 piece choir to record the trailer music. "I want the viewer to have a feeling of anticipation and wonder for the first fifty seconds or so, up until Master Chief is revealed and they realize that it’s Cortana trying to tell them something," he says.

Marty's music was designed from the ground up to lull the listener into a sense of doubt, then wonder. "I want them to feel pride and longing the moment Master Chief walks out of the smoke," says Marty. "I want them to get excited and perhaps even froth at the mouth when they see the Covenant Capital ship and then the incredible buried artifact. I want them to be left with that, ' I can hardly wait to play this game' feeling by the end with a slight, 'I wonder what she meant by that' aftertaste."

"I want there to be no doubt in anyone’s mind when it is the right moment to applaud and scream. I hope they do, anyway."

As to the unmistakable new trumpety note, Marty is perfectly blunt. "The first time the world sees this trailer is at a live Microsoft press event in the Chinese Theater in LA. It is the first time we announce officially that Bungie is making Halo 3. My thought is that since it is an announcement event that is full of pomp and gravity, music will contain a fanfare and be somewhat over the top. I want there to be no doubt in anyone’s mind when it is the right moment to applaud and scream. I hope they do, anyway."

And we hope you enjoy it too. We'll keep you posted on more developments as the game progresses and look forward to more Halo 3 related goodies in the near future.

Your pals,

Bungie Studios.

PS., Make sure you check out the new Screenshot Gallery , Storyboards , Wallpapers , FAQ , About Page and of course, the forum !

http://www.bungie.net/News/...

[Gamer13]

Just like forza 2 when it comes out it will blow every single racer out there.

IM OUT...///"""

[Cartesian3D]

its not HAlO3 fault .. Halo world isnt nice like uncharted!..

and Halo3 LOW RES screens are really nice , improved details and lighting and looks far more realistic than Halo2.. I think its final version ..and it will looks nice in HD..

believe me these screens are Awesome imo . :P

and DONT COMPARE KILLZONE 2 and Halo3 ... killzone will have full ***DISTRUCTIBLE*** World ,incredible physics and lighting ... and Killzone developers concentrate on Graphics and visuals not Multiplayer (perhaps yes!) and for sure both dev will do that well ..

[Bigmac573]

May as well can it.

[iceice123]

Need I say more?

[Extra Guy]

You've just given up havent you?

[Waffle-boy]

*LONG SIGH*

Its the BETA. Its not Halo 3 as we will know it. Its a BETA.

Sing with me now:
Its a BEEEEEETA.
A BEEEE-E-E-ETA
Its a BETABETABETABETA-BETABETABETA
BE-HE-HE-HE-HE-TAAAAAH!

Thank you.

[MoonDust]

watch when the final version is shown.

[Foulacy]

i'd rather play a great game with stick figure graphics than a crappy game with amazing graphics.

that being said, I think the graphics look great, especially at this point in time.

[chrisin3]

I think the halo 3 screens look fine. In its final release, I do believe that halo 3 will look better; however, I do question how much better it will look. I think there will be a difference but it will not be gargantuan. Most games I've seen--Metal Gear 4, DMC4 (xbox and ps3), Ninja Gaiden Sigma look great now, regardless of development stage. I know Halo will polish up, but i am surprised the game doesn't look better; however, i think this could actually be microsoft's strategy. Lately, many games that have come out have failed to completely live up to their ambitious screenshots. I think microsoft may be waiting till release to really give everyone a treat. It's always better to be surprised than disapointed.

[Quicksilva]

Can people lose all their bubbles? Or will they always have 1 :(

[iceice123]

If you're talking about the bubble shield you have to find it. Equipment must be found on the map. And the bubble shield lasts for 20 seconds.

[ArmrdChaos]

and the answer is no...you can't take it down to zero bubbles no matter how many try to get there. BUT, you can click on the ignore link under their picture to remove them from your sight...would be a nice feature for most of the people that have to deal with them in real life too.

If you wish to take away someone's voice then don't acknowledging them as having one....click Ignore.

[Maddens Raiders]

to me from a comparison standpoint. People / scriptnuts trying to pursuade fans of the series otherwise are typing in vain. Cheers.

[HaKeRsCanRotINHEL]

relevant comment.

[killercam19]

this is only the beta build not the final product

[The BS Police]

I can't wait untill we compare the final build to Halo 2.

[Covenant]

Gameplay, THEN graphics.

Bear in mind that the online portions of Halo 2 weren't as graphically enhanced as the campaign mode...the online mode was more about gameplay (outstanding) than graphics (pretty good).

So these shots are from a BETA version of the ONLINE mode.

In other words, expect the online mode to improve graphically by the time the game launches.

And, expect the Campaign mode to be even better.

Will it be Gears of War good? Nearly photorealistic?

Does anyone except the graphics whores and fanboys really care?

Halo is about gameplay first, graphics second.

Just one man's opinion. Take it as you will.

[Cartesian3D]

I said same thing many times..

and to no.33 its IMPOSSIBLE to see E3 2006 trailer graphics in 360 ,ps3 or PC now .. or even combined ..

I will shot in my head if bungie run that trailer in the game. (just look at grass and those kids!! ) or just see the AA and smooth animations and physics...

I saw the prealpha for HALO3 and animations are SO LASTGEN ..

and Im sure Bungie wont improve animations so much.

[Extra Guy]

That's not the E3 trailer. That's the other one, also th kids were real actors, they were just lit so that they looked more like CG

[Drew]

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IMO, the H3 Beta looks a lot better than Halo 2, but maybe that's because I'm not blind.

[XxZxX]

Betta Absolutely, but i still think Gear of Wars looks better than HALO 3 according to the screenshot.

[FirstknighT]

They can downgrade the graphics and it will still sell and get rave reviews over anything on the ps3.

[The Karate Kid]

How pathetic does this game looks???? lol boy o boy KillZone 2 is gonna Destroy this game lol. Its look cheap and crappy already. Listen here 360 Fanboys i can tell you what you are going to get already. Your going to get HALO2 in HD that equals = HALO 3 lol we all know one thing for sure the game will be no more than 8 gigs lol that is unless you like swapping disks in between your sessions lol IS THIS THE BEST 360 CAN GIVE YOU ?????????????? I hope this is a lesson to you all MICROSOFT GET OUT OF THIS BUSINESS PLEASE...............! and by the way XBOX LIVE was GREAT until HOME came out lol Can't wait to compare KILLZONE 2 to this pathetic game lol You already know this games sucks when they are leaking videos and screenshots already lol. Killzone will be MAJOR can't wait until JULY for the viewing. Metal Gear Solid 4 Drakes Fortune Ratchet and Clank Ninja Gaiden Sigma Lair Heavenly Sword and many many many more SONY GAMES will be great aswell. As soon as we (SONY) take Europe the WAR will be over with. We already have Japan we will soon have Europe and we sold 130,000 units compared to 199,000 units in the states that will change as well once the Price Drop hit. I know you 360 fanboys are scared now lol (BLU RAY OUTSELLS HD DVD 3 to 1) XBOX already abandoned the Add on HD DVD player lol oh just like they abandoned the original xbox lol I have 74 PS2 games and ALL play on my PS2 lol did someone mention GOD OF WAR 3 on PS3 ????

[marison]

In either camp, doesn't matter!

Use punctuation, paragraphs, few words per phrase. Try hard. You will be understood by more people.

[vidoardes]

This fool will never be understood by anyone. Clearly doesn't have a clue what goes on outside of his house either, I bet he's a recluse. It's guys like this that give the gaming communtiy a bad name. "When WE take Europe"? this guy actually thinks he works for Sony!! Freak...

No wonder the Xbox fanboys have some much fodder with idiots liek this clogging up the comment pages

[The Karate Kid]

YOU ALL KNOW THIS GAME IS ALREADY LOOKING LIKE CRAP SO YOUR BEGGING US LOYAL SONY FANS TO NOT POST ON THIS NEWS........I LOVE IT. WELL LET ME JUST TELL YOU THIS.....YOUR HALO 3 GAME LOOKS LIKE C.R.A.P. oh wait' Im sorry ok YOUR HALO 3 GAMES LOOKS LIKE HALO 2 IN HD lol is that better ? Hey look on the bright side atleast you can now send messages and voice chat across games lol

Dont worry PS3 will have that soon enough as well.

[FirstknighT]

WOW! So much anger. What happend? You get picked last again for kickball?

[NextGen24Gamer]

Someone random fanboy posts screen comparissons....and we know these are actual Halo 3 beta screens? Its blacked out on every one. I'm just saying. I can't believe this is "News". Its common sense to assume that when the Final Version of Halo 3 launches later this year. MS and Bungie will make sure its Everything a Next Gen FPS shoudl be and more.

[gnothe1]

you see sony guys!! these are the people that make it hard for the rest of you!! theres a few sony boys with a little sence the he (rio) is not one of them!! a great example of why abortions are needed!!

[fenderputty]

As PS fan, I have no idea why anyone is bringing up killzone. This inlcudes the PS3 fanboys who brought it up FIRST. This game is HALO. I'm sure the graphics won't be bad, they never were the best or worst. I'm sure the gameplay will be Halo. I'm sure it will sell millions. Why come in and flame? Why come in and bring up Killzone?

I can't wait to see the final build. I'll have to play the game at a friends house though. I was a little upset about the Battle Riffle going back to a continuous spray. (leaked footage) O well ... the series has lost my interest a little but still, this game should be good even with possibly less than expected graphics.

[joevfx]

wow the killzone2 thing they showed at GDC blows this away, and that was only a tech demo and this is beta!! i new microsoft putting all there marbles into one jar wa sgonna come back and bite them in the @$$ one day.

[iceice123]

Are you mentally challenged? Honestly anyone who thinks killzone2 will even come close to touching Halo 3 is mentally handicapped. "killzone sucked so what made you think we wanted more" is so true. Grats on betting a game that was given average scores of 6-7 will kill a triple A game like Halo.

[Frulond]

IMO they used same engine and they look practically the same. Just add new maps to halo 2 and stop charging us for a new game when is certainly not looking like a new one

[The BS Police]

Bungie stated it a year ago, Halo 3 is gonna blow Halo 2 out of the water with awesome water effects.

[joevfx]

im not talking about the ratings you fool. Halo 3 was suppossed to be the big push to show off the 360s power, yet it cant come close to a tech demo of another system. im just talking about graphical power. plus if you played one FPS then you played them all, Halflife and the battlefield series being the exceptions. And if you think Halo stands out over those games then you should have your head checked. ITs the most over hyped game ever created, along with GTA.

[OneBubbleBastard]

No comment.................

[chitown]

uhhhhh dont know what u sony trolls are complaining about but the screens oon the right look at least 10 times better and u know it. and its the beta!!! cant wait to see the finished product. game of the year 2007...... lets finish the fight

[Bathyj]

I know its a Beta, but even the trailer they showed which was all game engine and in HD, just looked like,.....well, Halo to me. Impressive 5 years ago, not so much now. Also, isnt this game out in like 6 months or something. Bungie have got some work to do.

But hey, its just my opinion, so dont get upset. Ignore it all you like, I'm sure the game will be good. I just hope they're not neglecting the single player game. I'm sick of this trend where everything is all about the multiplayer.

[kingboy]

Surprisingly Halo 2 isn`t even far behind when compared graphically

[EnforcerOfTheTruth]

That looks poor, more like Halo 2.5 haha

[Marriot VP]

It is a Halo 2.5

It's not halo 3 yet, it's in the first major build...(beta)

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Imagine all the eye candy that will be slaped in when it releases, its going to look goood.

[EZCheez]

I don't see why you guys are so quick to defend the graphics of this game (thery are good, but not fantastic). When I played Halo for the first time online, I payed no attention at all to the graphics, and I thought the game was amazing. What makes Halo is the gaming, NOT the graphics.

And that, my friends, is from a PS3 owner.

[artman]

hmmmm I guess UnrealEngine3 doesn't look so well on outdoor rendering, compare to cryengine... it looks pretty good on indoor game.
the polygon is higher on Halo 3, but the texture are similar, the shader is better.

but .... does the Halo 2 and Halo 3 have the same plot of game? how come they can compare the same spot??
well I expect to see a better graphic honestly ... hopefully this is still beta rendering too... ^_^

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Obviously any perception of the quality of this game is being based of a beta version and possibly a low quality T.V. And make all the comments about killzone 2 you want because absolutely no one has seen that game running from a start screen. Yes there may be video but funny it shows no signs of eratic movement typical of someone who playing it.

We have seen Halo 3 running I guess we will WAIT for killzone 2 to actually show gameplay. And regaredless of your opinion of halo series it has the most powerful on-line component backing it up. The pure un-bridaled power of XBOX-LIVE. See you on-line Fellow halo players lets do another billion + games played on bungie servers. The gaming history of this franchise is undeniable so if you hate if you hate xbox 360 and it`s games because of the foot it has up ps3`s stuck up, concieted, and over confident A $ $ then you BETTER FEAR HALO 3 cause it is going to suck up more former sony-boys.

[WilliamRLBaker]

But even with the crappy qualty of the pics and movie, I can still tell that halo 3 looks better then halo2 its easy for me to see more polys, more area, better textures, better water affects....ect are being shown on last resort then zanzibar....its just obvious..,

[badkolo]

I love halo and will own halo3 but jesus those shots show that halo3 is not going ot break nay ground sin the graphics department, it looks slightly better then halo2 an i mean slightly.

im sure the game will rock but halo3 is not gears in graphics , not in any way, so far fromeveryhing we have seen halo3 graphicaly is underwheling and im a 360 fanboy

[Extra Guy]

When did you last go to the opticians?

[GameJunkieJim]

Just keep touting how great Killzone 2 will be. Before you've seen so much as a screenshot. You guys did that with Killzone too didn't ya. Didn't help then, ain't gonna happen now. You think you would have learned your lesson. But I guess you have to have something to grab on to.

[The BS Police]

History has prove again and again that history tends to repeat itself, Napoleon made the mistake by invading Russia, Hitler made that same mistake over 200 years later (I think it was around 200 years later anyway).

Killzone was totally ripped to shreds by Halo 2 in 2004, Killzone 2 will be ripped to shreds by Halo 3.

[macsto]

lol, all these sony fanboys will be eating their words once they see the final game. This is just a beta build to test the multiplayer, graphical upgrades happen in the final stage of development.

[JsonHenry]

I never did care for the Halo Series, at least not enough to be excited about it like some people, but I can honestly say that the image quality was so low that I would not make any judgements from these screens.

Of course the game is going to look great, the older games were the best looking on the original Xbox - but in those screen shots, I could only tell on some of them which one was which because it said so on the screen.

[Logan]

thats why there is so many comments by the way, it's because Halo looks like crap.

[Drew]

You mean it's because people are afraid?

It's okay, it's how humans express their insecurity.

[SDS Overfiend]

To me Personally if they only Smoothed out the Textures, add minor Dirt and detail effects,sharpen the overall look to Halo 2 You Still Get the Illest Fuking 3D Shooter on the Planet. Listen Fanboys When this game Drops its over and your weak battle cries will fall on deaf ears because we'd be to busy and astonished by the surround sound to listen to hate post and trolling F@gs. Matter OF fact Halo 2 Could get 6 New maps with 5 new weapons,20 new playlist types and still get more online burn than resistance and Killzone put together in one game. You Know what We'll Call it Resistance: Killzone 2 just to match the onslaught The chief gonna bring. Don't Fight it Become one with the Chief F@ggot @ss fanboy you sound pathetic. Funny How People say the Game looks like crap when the pics where ripped from a Low quality vid. Anywho it could be worst i could've easily been one of the Many flaming idiots that Brought a PS3.

DOOMSDAY IS NIGH!

[TheWishman]

meh, i have Crackdown...and will try the beta out- but expect little from it.

As you can see by these shots, the difference in graphics here is fairly unjustifiable compared to many games out already

beta or no beta...the game is virtually done- beta or final doesnt make enough impact on graphics to change this.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Ok seriously? My first comment is the 99th comment on a screenshot comparison!? Ya'll need to get some lives...I didn't read any comments as I am sure what they all say. But I will say that this is very impressive that the BETA of a game already looks better than the previous game before any graphics polishing. A good comparison is Forza 2, don't believe me? Go to the official site and look at pictures from February and than the ones from last week, their is astounding difference in quality. Which only tells me one thing, Halo 3 is going to look amazing.

[kevin]

the 180 could only make it to this level

[badkolo]

ok so oyu all say it i sbeta then why havent they showed us pics that actuallylook good
all videos and pics so far low quality ir not give the game a halo2 look
it looks like halo2 with more textures, and it doesnt look mind blowing, it just looks better, and unless they somehow will magically mae te game look amazing im not expecting it to look anything more then a solid good looking game.

even the guys on the inside you have previewed it have not jumped out and said it looks incredible in the graphics department, but its getting close to the release yet what we have seen has underwhelmed many of us in the graphics alone, and yah graphics dont make the game and never will it still is being talked about as the posts keep on comin.

lots of people are judging by these low quaity, fake HD pics and movies but so far many are not impressed in the graphics and bungie hasnt shown anyting to counter these bad pics and vids.

[The BS Police]

1. Bungie cannot release to much content otherwise it may spoil the game and leave us with not that many surprises when the final game ships.

2. The final graphical touches are not being included in the Beta so we are not underwhelmed when the games finally released this fall.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

HALO 3

:D

1- this is a *beta*, calm down people.
2- seriously, its beta.
3. Beta.
4. umm, did i mention the graphical build is from a BETA?!
5. this will be one of the greatest videogames ever. and headshoting my best friend time and time again on Live!? can't be beat.

because under all they hype, the graphics, the beta's and the bungies is the multiplayer gameplay. and only gears of war can rival the Halo3 beast.

oh and i have my willy-wonka style golden ticket for the Halo-3 beta from crackdown, my gamertag is machinegunBANG, so if you want to help me finish the fight, see ya may 16th!

&&yeah. chill out PS3 fools...

;)

[Marriot VP]

see you online

[San anto]

no sh!t fool but still u cant keep bringing that point up, go find a pair and admit that these beta screens are less than acceptable

[Rybnik]

I don't see why people are freaking!! H3 very obviously looks much better than the finished Halo 2, and it will get better!! Chill out people, lol

[PS360PCROCKS]

Holy hell common sense!!! Bubbles for you...yes I don't get it, if you look at the pictures you can totally tell the difference. The graphics aren't astounding but the realism is. That's what people don't get looking at Halo 2 you can see it's totally a video game. But if you look at the surroundings for Halo 3 their realistic, the sand, the water, the trees, lighting etc. The graphics aren't made to impress in a beta, they put their things in place and play test it, that's all this is. What's funny is everyone is screaming about how badly a game looks ATLEAST 5 months (September) before it releases. A beta is something internal most people never see these betas or get a chance to try one out. Do you all really think it's going to look anything like that when it releases? You all need to take a long hard look in the mirror if you think Bungie didn't know that they could release a beta with no repercussions. The funniest thing about this whole thing is the fact that this is a leaked video of a "beta" this wasn't even meant to be released. This could be a beta from 1 1/2 months ago or from last week, it could be the beta we play, or it could be light years behind. That's the point your all judging a leaked unofficial beta for quality, who does that? lol it's pretty hilarious if you look at it from my perspective. Come on try it with me the perspective I come from is down a road of maturity, let's all travel it sometime.

[THELANDSOFSAND]

Mr. Rocks is right, the road of maturity is very nice travel indeed. it has trees and a small stream on the left, and some pretty flowers on the right, and at the end is bill gates, waiting with a final-build copy of Halo 3.

So if ya'll can't tell the differance between halo 2 and 3 screenshots, or think a beta game engine represents the final product you are either:

a. blind;
b. a fanboy blinded by love; or
c. stooopid

[Rybnik]

My God, you hit the nail on the head. For me it is exactly what you said, H2 OBVIOUSLY looks like a videogame and H3 while subtle, definitely blurs the line a bit. Thank you for being rational! Oh, and major kudos to Moron for posting this :)

[SDS Overfiend]

To me Personally if they had only Smoothed out the Textures, add minor Dirt and detail effects,sharpen the overall look to Halo 2 for Halo 3 You Still Get the Illest Fuking 3D Shooter on the Planet. Listen Fanboys When this game Drops its over and your weak battle cries will fall on deaf ears because we'd be to busy and astonished by the surround sound to listen to hate post and trolling F@gs. Matter OF fact Halo 2 Could get 6 New maps with 5 new weapons,20 new playlist types and still get more online burn than resistance and Killzone put together in one game. You Know what We'll Call it Resistance: Killzone 2 just to match the onslaught The chief gonna bring. Don't Fight it Become one with the Chief F@ggot @ss fanboy you sound pathetic. Funny How People say the Game looks like crap when the pics where ripped from a Low quality vid. Anywho it could be worst i could've easily been one of the Many flaming idiots that Brought a PS3.

DOOMSDAY IS NIGH!

[InMyOpinion]

Wait for the final version until you drop your judgements. Do you honestly think this is what it will look like when it's released? Somehow I feel this is the last chance fanboys will get to smacktalk Halo 3. Both Halo 1 and Halo 2 were some of the best looking titles out there when released. Most of us know what Bungie are capable of so why should Halo 3 end up being different?

[One]

seriously im not a fanboy i like all three systems
but even i know that halo 3 is gonna kill anything
n everything thats out, its halo!! n i personally cant wait to
play it, so everybody thats hating on halo just give
it up u cant win halo will own.
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[AppleSlime]

considering i'm stuck playing with a bunch of petty asses. People constantly look for the first chance they can to attack something. Just give up already.

[IBLEEDBLU]

to come back to this thread and say I TOLD U SOOO...game looks crap..i thought when u go NEXT GEN its suppose to be like 10X better then the previous.

u guys cry its BETA and to relax - last time i check BETA was to test out the gameplay and see if everything is running as planned..to fix any glitches - not to improve on graphic quality

for all u people that are hoping that the game graphics are gonna improve by 100% man ur just stupid...the best xbox game (graphic wise) and to me is the best title for the xbox hands down is Gears of War and those graphics were only possible by using the unreal 3 engine....and sorry to purst ur bubble halo 3 is not using it...so u can say all u want about oh i cant wait its gonna own etc etc etc...but once again..FACTS are FACTS..and if any1 of u think that this game is going to look anywhere near gears of war once again u are stupid...their is no engine rite now that the xbox can use that beats the unreal 3 engine and if halo 3 isnt using it which they are not - the game will look like those screens...its that simple - so rather then say i know this and u know that - shut up and provide some FACTS - its the only way ur gonna shut up any1 in these stupid fan boy wars

[The BS Police]

Your here complaining that we are defending an unfinished games graphics when we know for a fact (and Bungie has been saying this for a year now) that the final graphical touches have yet to be added.

Also to say the best graphics are only Possible on the Unreal 3 Engine is just Ignorant, the only reason why the graphics look better on those games (Gears, Unreal Tournament, etc)is due to the fact that the environments are very small compared to Halo's large environments.

Also halo has mor enemies and allies onscren, aswell as tons more Multiplayer options aswell as more colour.

I also like your comment here: "rather then say i know this and u know that - shut up and provide some FACTS - its the only way ur gonna shut up any1 in these stupid fan boy wars"

Where are your facts?

Let alone if you hate fanboy wars why are you here bashing a Microsoft franchise?

[IBLEEDBLU]

sell your PS3 buy a xbox360 then hahahaha but i know ull regret it

:)

[One]

ur obviously talking to me by saying
any1, i dont know about anybody else
but i know i didnt say anything about it looking better
than gears i know its not gears is the best
looking game on any system if u ask me but i do know
that halo has a bigger fan base because its
been out longer so of course its gonna do better
n we can fight about this all day and night but
lets just wait until it comes out before we
start saying i told u so
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[One]

golf clap n kudos
for mr bs i agree
1

[Ps3ShellShock]

first - i have to say i agree with bleedblu for the purpose of the game just wont get that much better from the build in the BETA.

the facts BS u are asking is pretty clear and really doesnt need to explain. the unreal 3 engine is a monster when it comes to streaming data and compressing.

BS your comment actually reflects negitive towards the xbox360 and ill expalin.

now im going to think its save to say that gears of war graphically makes halo3 look like a NES game.

now you stated that the reason why the halo3 doesnt compare to gow is due to the big landscape and many players on screen. hmmm

gow - 8 players - maps fair size - alot of details/shading
halo2 - 16 players - bigger maps - crappy details

its tough to answer your theory due to the fact your not a dev - because my question 2 u would be - whatever engine halo2 is using can handle 16players with large maps why cant the unreal 3 engine handle it if it in fact the better engine??

and the part where your actually putting the xbox360 down is - you says because of 16 players online plus big maps are the cause of reduced graphics...then the PS3 is doing something rite.

for example RFOM - halo3 doesnt look better and they have 40+ i think players with large maps...warhawk is another game that will have more then 16 players and the graphics look crisp...not to mention all the detail in lair(i know its not a online game) but my point is about moving AI targets withing a huge space.

so if i was to go by what uve just said about u saying that halo3 will lack in graphics quality because they have large maps +16 players - then it goes to show u the power of the PS3

this is just my opnion so dont bite my head off

[Bullseye]

we all know this was only posted to encourage some banter and flaming.Truth is,Halo 3 will be a terrific game and i have no doubt the graphics will be a vast improvement on Halo 2.We all know it,even the Sony guys know it, so why bother rising to the bait.

[power of Green]

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44.1 - as I said.. :P
I said same thing many times..

and to no.33 its IMPOSSIBLE to see E3 2006 trailer graphics in 360 ,ps3 or PC now .. or even combined ..

I will shot in my head if bungie run that trailer in the game. (just look at grass and those kids!! ) or just see the AA and smooth animations and physics...

I saw the prealpha for HALO3 and animations are SO LASTGEN ..

and Im sure Bungie wont improve animations so much.

_____________________________ ___________________________

By reading your comments its clear you know so little about Halo and the Xbox 360 it hurts even reading what you have to say. I give you kudos because you atleast trying to use logic but your reasoning is clouded by Sony fanboyism from all the post i'v read of yours. Anyways dude was talking about the 2006 E3 trailer Halo 3 announcement not the Halo 3 TV AD that had its first showing during the last SuperBowl. lol

You Sony fanatics are getting out of control and the very thought of such a powerful series has you people in fear for some reason. Halo 3 is going to be up there with Too Human and GoW with less rocks and papers and moss on the ground. lol

[Shaka2K6]

Its more like halo 2 HD at this point, really how much are they charging for tha halo 2 HD i mean halo 3 legendary pack ? like $100 thats a huge rip-off like paying $80/year to play this 6 hour FPS online isnt enough.

[schnodder]

the mart's getting nervous by now ;-)

[P4KY B]

Gameplay is more important than Graphics.
I just hope it plays more like Halo CE and not Halo 2. And it seems the devs think the same thing.

+ some of the best looking games are crap. Does anyone remember MYST?
and some of the worst looking games are brilliant. CHAOS or TREX WARRIOR (on the Amiga)

But I do think in the end Halo 3 will look good and it will sell hardware. And PS3 fans should just buy a core 360 and enjoy what will be a great game.

I own a 360 but i will eventually buy a PS3 too.

All fanboys are poor and cant afford 2 systems.

[vidoardes]

You sir, are am idiot.

First of all, Myst was a GREAT game, you just needed more than half a braincell to play it. Little too taxing for you perhaps?

Amiga games while great at the time would hold the attentions of anyone except the gamers who played the when the first came out, and that is only for nostalgia reasons. while gameplay is very important, the graphics sell the game. You want to look at a game and go "Wow", not "Oh well, the gameplay is good". We have machines that can produce great graphics and gameplay, and I for one don't want a comprimise on either.

"All fanboys are poor and cant afford 2 systems." - so anyone who can't afford two systems is a fanboy? Let me guess, mommy and daddy bought yours right? funnily enough my life doesn't revolve around gaming, I like to go out, not to mention bills to pay. Just cause I have one console, doesn't mean I am poor, it means I have a life, you should try getting one

[P4KY B]

Are you trying to say you would prefer graphics over higher framerate?
Eventually compromises have to be found between the two. And most people would choose framerate first. I assume you own a PS3 which is a good thing because you'll have plenty of time to get used to low framerates.

Lemmings, Pushover, Walker, Indy Heat (all amiga and all still good today) and a whole load of XBLA games are great to play without having cutting edge graphics.
I have an amiga emulator on my PC at work and still play the classics.
I have an N64 with Mario 64 in my bedroom.

And regarding your last comment, your life doesn't have to revolve around games to own all the systems. You just need to earn enough to buy them all.

Good luck looking for a better paid job.

Gameplay always > Graphics

and Halo 3 will have very good graphics once its finished.

[Bhai]

...will be beating the fudge out of Halo 3 this year all in graphics, gameplay, online and true next-gen stuff like physics and procedural stuff etc.

Still, I must say I just couldn't believe the above pics are from Halo 3, because, clearly man...THEY SU(K ! This ain't no leap, infact, this ain't nothing. Funny thing is that now I'm reading that some xbots are saying Halo is not about GFX, man, please there is nothing in halo but gfx...otherwise Quake or Unreal Tournament series are much ahead in this genre. And well yeah, you always say 360 has the GPU edge, so if this game isn't procedural, if it doesn't have insane physics and no 40 player online...plus graphics look like THAT HaHaHa ! then what is this game good for, as in next-gen ?

[Havince]

Fed up of you all, just accept you aint gonna get a game that can stand toe to toe in multiplayer than this, end of

[PSN Starfleets]

Those comparisons are unimpressive and very sad. The different is little in some areas, except some of the textures. And in one of them, the Warthog looks better on Halo 2 than Halo 3 in my eyes.

I'm nervous for Halo 3. These visuals better look x20 better or we'll become the laughing stock.

[specialguest]

Even if these graphics are not mind blowing, it won't stop anyone from buying and playing this game for years to come.

[Icryo]

Some people are so dumb. See what Halo 3's graphics look like, with true HD, WHEN THE GAME IS FINALISED.

Until then, all we have is RANDOM, UNEDUCATED, PITIFUL SQUABBLING.

Thank you all.

[Shake]

Stop playing video games and go join a sport instead of getting pale in front of the tv.GEEK!!!

[Shake]

shut the hell up...you dont have to worry about what other people say just go play with yourself DAMN!! GEEK AND NO IM NOT A TRUE SO CALLED GAMER.

[hulk_bash1987]

Ummmm.... den y are u on a videogame news and networking site ridiculing and talking down to other gamers???? I think u should consider some other liesure activity instead of blasting so called geeks on the interweb.

[MoonDust]

and no life so they keep coming back repeating the same thing. Go outside and get laid, no matter how much you flame this game it's going to stomp Killzone like it did before. History repeats itself.

[Icryo]

Shake, what the hell? I just want people to judge Halo 3 when it comes out. That's a fair argument.

But since you like being offensive, that's cool...
So now you don't feel so insecure about yourself after mindlessly attacking me, f*ck off and leave me alone.

[GameJunkieJim]

And the trailer alone looks better than Resistance.

You know, all the flamers in here like to say how great Killzone is, but you notice none of them are off playing the first one. Guess where I've been spending most of my time the last couple days. Playing HaloCE and Halo 2. The Gameplay is better than Gears and Resistance. The campaigns are longer than Gears, the AI is better than Resistance.

And these are last gen. Halo 3 is set to continue a winning formula.

[SpinalRemains138]

This looks like a PS2 game. Wow, stop bashing Lair guys. Look at this garbage you all wanna play

[CrazzyMan]

moreover, i even can`t say which one looks better...
where is nextgen?
maybe after half a year... =)

[SIX]

It looks genuinely Halo....What did you guys expect?

[achira]

haha, how crappy is that. if thats the best game on the xbox360, then xbots must buy a ps3 for far better games.

[GameJunkieJim]

for your in depth analysis of a screenshot taken from a low-res, SD internet video with an extra layer of video noise, taken from a beta.

Yes your in depth coverage continues to astound, Mr. One bubble.

[Xeoset]

Far...To...Many...Jealous...So ny...Fantards.

Halo 3 = BETA
Halo 2 = Finished Product.

Gee, what an awesome, fair and unbiased comparison...

If the BETA looks this damn good, roll on Halo 3, there's a game worth purchasing. Legendary Edition FTW!

[TheExecutive]

It doesnt look that bad for a beta. But lets not fool ourselves, graphics do matter. "Halo isnt about graphics. Its about gameplay."
I have both Halo 1 and 2. Tell me again what is so great about the gameplay that graphics dont matter? ITs a fps. The gameplay only gets so unique from other fps's. Story and graphics set this genre apart.

Now I am a big fan of the Halo series, I will get H3.
The beta doesnt look that bad.
We dont know what KZ will look like so dont compare the two.
Dont fool yourself. If H3 looks like sh!t, the game will still succeed.
Dont lie to yourself and say "its about the gameplay and not graphics"
Graphics is a third of the importance in my book.

[Ps3ShellShock]

GameJunkieJim - if u think that halo3 looks better then RFOM you need glasses my friend. because clearly that isnt the case and that is a stupid fanboy remark.
comparing it to killzone your absolutely correct in terms of 98% of fans or people for that matter havent seen killzone running - but what we do base it on are 2 things.

1st thing motorstorm - E3 trailer was amazing and the final product wasnt as good as the trailer but graphically came very close and the gameplay was 100% dead on from the mayhem you saw in the trailer..so if you now look at the killzone2 E3 trailer + 120 top world dev + over 25million later im sure its gonna rock
2nd point is that people that have seen a glimpse of killzone say that some areas of the game already look better then the E3 trailer and honestly if the PS3 can come anywhere near killzone the trailer it will still blow halo3 graphic out of the water

Xeoset - "Gee, what an awesome, fair and unbiased comparison" and comparing a system that has been out for a whole year 1/2 is fair to compare vs a system that has been out for 6 months?????

[Xeoset]

Comparing Systems that were due on the same date but one got delayed because of SIXAXIS but still got the same amount of Dev. Time is a bad thing now?

I've really heard it all.

EDIT: BTW, where the hell did I state Sony? Other than their Zombie Nation bi7ching?

[GameJunkieJim]

If you would like, you can look at this video and make your own comparisons to Resistance. I happen to think Halo 3 looks better. A lot better.

http://download.microsoft.c...

That's not to say Resistance looks bad. It looks amazingly good.

But bear in mind that this environment is about 20 times larger than anything found in Resistance. And to all those Killzone fanatics (yes both of you) this trailer is REAL TIME. Not a CG movie.

Sure it's scripted, but it's all done with in game resources. Real game resources.

And Bungie still has a few months to tweak and polish the game.

It's a good thing.

[darx]

These screens blow away anything that the PS3 has shown off so far. Can't wait!

[San anto]

No.
this game needs 40 man deathmatches

[Bill Gates]

This is what I believe is M$’s strategy…

It’s very clear to me that this looks very much like Halo2, just in HD. Ok that’s a given by the looks of the video. Now do you really think Halo 3 will look like this in the end? Get real! I’m not even a Halo fan, never was. Hell I think the game is annoying….BUT,

I believe this video was intentionally released to get the forums talking, and to steal some of the thunder that some of the PS3 games have been generating. In the end M$ will wow people with the final build of the game. I also believe the game will come in 2 DVD disks.

If you don’t believe me, then you just wait and see. I swear some of you don’t try to think out of the box do you?

[pshizle]

first off fonyboy have you played halo2 in HD i thought so it looks no where nere halo3 beta

what ps3 games???ya name me 3 games that got 9+ for the ps3!!! wait there is none

go watch more bluray movies on your fony station 3

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[Ps3ShellShock]

GameJunkieJim - i totally 4got about that video..but in my opnion it still looks cartoony..i dont know what your talking about detail as all of that video showed sand and even that didnt look good..masterC did look well designed but the expectations of nextgen and a huge game like this should look much better...and isnt he green?? whats with the yellowish color on him?? RFOM is far more detailed levels and just look up some of the scrren shots from the game u will notice the amount of detail and everything going on...this must be a cutscene from the game..

the thing is that with nextgen people want 2 fell like ur there in the game and to getthat sense of realisim you really need shade and quality detail and set the mood - like gears of war is a good example of depth - its war - war is ugly - grey skys/alot of darkness etc tec...halo3 doesnt give u that..the monsters are cartoony and the enviroments just dont give it depth..

pshizle - i have played halo1 and halo2 - i was hooked on halo 1..halo 2 was a let down

and your point about what gave does PS3 have over 9.0 is kinda stupid of u as your comparing a xbox1 game not a 360 game so if that is the case you should be asking what game has been rated a 9 on the PS2 - and i could post a very huge list in that case

in my opnion alot of people will be let down by halo3 - just like halo 1 set the bar for FPS on consoles - i think killzone will be setting a new standard for FPS going on 4ward but will have to wait till E3 this june or july to finally get a glimpse of killzone2

[SDS Overfiend]

Bullsh1t to you and anybody who ever said that.
The only tyhing that a Halo Die hard wanted was online and when Halo 2 did that Motherfukers Lost their minds.Being the Story was'nt more revealing give or take Halo 2 Stepped up in every category from part one (Except with the Pistol which had to be toned down.).
You Kicking Some real Bullsh1t right now about how you was a fan of Halo 1 being hooked but 2 let you down....... How? When the everybody i know that thirsted for part 1 Loved it even more especially when it went online? Every Sony Fanboy runs that line like they actually played part 1 give it a break.

BTW about Killone 2 wheres the Beta in that? Someone seems unsure of the beta product if no info was released whatsoever yet. Don't frett boys and girls Killzone is only the Doormat to Halo 3 Welcoming party now Deal with it.

[The BS Police]

If you don't believe me watch the attached video.

And then take alook at the final version in the image attachment.

[GameJunkieJim]

[QUOTE]GameJunkieJim - i totally 4got about that video..but in my opnion it still looks cartoony..i dont know what your talking about detail as all of that video showed sand and even that didnt look good..masterC did look well designed but the expectations of nextgen and a huge game like this should look much better...and isnt he green?? whats with the yellowish color on him?? RFOM is far more detailed levels and just look up some of the scrren shots from the game u will notice the amount of detail and everything going on...this must be a cutscene from the game.. [/QUOTE]

Actually there is a TON more detail in that video than in RFOM. The yellowish tint to his armor is reflection from the terrain. And the game addresses geometry out to a kilometer or even farther.

[QUOTE]the thing is that with nextgen people want 2 fell like ur there in the game and to getthat sense of realisim you really need shade and quality detail and set the mood - like gears of war is a good example of depth - its war - war is ugly - grey skys/alot of darkness etc tec...halo3 doesnt give u that..the monsters are cartoony and the enviroments just dont give it depth.. [/QUOTE]

Gears looks amazing, but it's a 3rd person game and is pretty graphics oriented in the first place. Halo's always been about the multiplayer, and the core gameplay mechanics. The graphics are a big thing too, but they have taken a backseat to gameplay in times past. For instance, the models in Halo 2 reduce polygons at long distances and replace them with enhanced bitmaps. Looks the same, and makes the game run easier.

[Havince]

is cr@p, theyv even said that once you get close to a spirit or background its blocky and cr@p

from what i saw of the beta online video (available on live) this game looks ace, even at beta it looks good as during the video it also showed ALPHA stage and even the jump there was brilliant.

enda dasy u sony tramps wont get 2 play this anyway so if your so sure its gonna suck you having nothing 2 worry bout, just get you future posts written down when theres a post saying HALO 3 scores 98% or halo 3 best online game EVER. Coz you will all be full of excuses then wont you

[capmmegee]

I can't believe what I am reading. Truly are all you dipshits serious? You fanboy assholes. Honestly.

Everyone read this now. It's very simple to understand ok?

Let's do some thinking on this one folks.

Last Resort is a map still in production. What we saw was a Beta build true enough, but it is a map still being worked on and nowhere near what the final product looks like. Same with the maps High Ground, Snowbound, and Valhala coming out in May. Yes those maps are complete, but they are not running at what Halo 3 will be running at when it comes out. Now, if we know that the FINISHED maps are not going to be running at top capacity, than what would be the next logical thing for Last Resort? The map is only available to special testers, and not to the public, this it will not be given to the public because they are still working with it. Example, Frankie was been rambling on about water details in the maps that are ready for the public in the beta. He's gone in detail about what the water effects are i.e. big splashes. Now in the video we see Halo 2 looking water effects. Showing that Resort isn't final. Graphics aren't going to be that f*cking special in an early build SO QUIT B*TCHING. It's beyond me stupid some of you people are.

I have now just told you why the graphics, that all of you are complaining about, aren't quite up to par.

By the way, some parts still managed to look pretty damn good. So hold all your negative sh*t until the FINAL PRODUCT comes out and we see the real graphics of Halo 3, not this early build sh*t.