Nintendo Life writes: "One word sums up the gameplay in the latest Final Fantasy spin-off for WiiWare - deep. There's absolutely no way you'll be disappointed with the sheer number of things to consider throughout the game. If you are, at least you should be satisfied by the large number of individual stages and polished presentation in My Life as a Darklord. Although the game is extremely addictive and represents great value for money (the less said about the generally-unnecessary DLC the better), the same general formula does exist for every level, so repetition may be an issue for those not captivated by the genre, and more intuitive controls could have easily been implemented. Nevertheless, we're more than confident that you won't regret giving WiiWare's latest strategy title a spin".
Brandon Thompson writes: "Recent news has stopping making the rounds that the much hyped Final Fantasy XIII Versus may turn into a multi-platform title. This is all fine and good and honestly nothing more than a rumor at this point. But you wouldn't know that by the reactions of the Sony Fanboys infesting the interwebs.
If you based anything on their collective response, you'd be led to believe that Square Enix is led by chimpanzees smoking cigars and flinging their own crap."
Latest FFXIII sales "disagree", and stay in school ur grammar sucks!
I love that #1 caught himself and edited the post. Then he spells your "ur". You are classic!
... I don't think I can recall ever hearing a Sony fanboy say that it is the franchise.. to be honest with 'ya
No one is saying FF is a PlayStation franchise.
But when SquareEnix announces one or two titles as exclusive to a certain system promising this and that, then they decide to make it multiplatform, which we all know will gimp the game in more than one way.
Then we have a problem.
i know. i havent seen any1 say its Sony only franchise.... wasnt FF originally on a Nintendo console? Title = FAIL
" No one is saying FF is a PlayStation franchise. "
I dont know, the echo's of how FF13 is only exclusive to PS3...and how 360 fans are crying because its a Sony exclusive...are still to be heard.
Of course all of you crawled back once MS announced it was coming to their console as well.
Now you people say FF13 is crap and FFv13 is going to be way better.
Why? because Sony fans believe FF is a Sony franchise.
Anyone who disagrees with this is just full of himself.
I own a Ps3 myself, so dont even try calling me a MS fanboy or something.
But the hypocrisy is just lovely up in the air.
if you take the japanese sales out of the totals(which you should when you compare,simply because it got a 2months headstart and the xbox is non existant there) then the sales are just about level.
and considering that it was FF first venture onto the xbox..it was a huge success.and a lot of xbox360 owners had never played it before.
"Now you people say FF13 is crap and FFv13 is going to be way better.
Why? because Sony fans believe FF is a Sony franchise." No, because most likely there won't have to cut things out for the xbox, that simple.
Kenroc,
Cry more, Seriously FF13 is not a bad production, its still well made.
At first it was praised and then slammed to the ground because it went to 360.
If it were a PS3 exclusive it would have been the same, this title funds FFv13, so you can bet on it that the same amount of time would have been put in the production. And all of you would be saying : "you xbots are just crying cause you dont have FF13"
You know its true.
Labyrinths and dungeons were cut from FFXIII to make it multiplatform.
And again, no one is saying FF is a Sony franchise. We're talking about single titles.
This guy is an idiot. The reason why PS3 fans have respect for FF is because FFVII was groundbreaking, especially when it arrived on PS1. No one stated that the series belongs to Sony. Everyone knows it started with Nintendo.
FLAMEBAIT THAT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
I think someone needs a tissue as well. Cry moar. It's always PS3 fanboys this and that and YET no one has the goddamn nerve to call out the 360 fanboys.
something tells me this guy wants all final fantasy 13 versus on the 360, which is cool and all but, I'm afraid you guys can't have this title. If somehow you get it on your console, Fck you square where is our late exclusive.
Someone tell Game Journalists to stop writing about fanboys, which only leads to more hits on their site because fanboy discussions are always hot topics...
Oh, wait... I see what you did there.
But, if fanboys weren't fanboys, what would you write about, gofanboy.com?
Interesting how my comment as marked as immature? Immature? Please explain, because I'm sick and tired of people talking about PS3 fans doing this and that and yet 360 fans get away with nonsense. This article is flamebait and I stand by my comment.
Don Mattrick, told a packed LA Convention Centre this morning that traditional PlayStation franchises have “found a new home” on Xbox 360.
"a jubilant Mattrick closed the company’s presentation by stating series that have previously been seen as PlayStation-affiliated titles are now being thought of as 360 titles by the gaming populous."
PlayStation-affiliated titles
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http://www.mcvuk.com/news/3...
You guys really do own yourselves here.
You can swear up and down that FF isn't associated with the Playstation brand mainly.
Just like The Metal Gear Franchise.
The good thing about the Playstation brand, is that there are oh so many PlayStation-affiliated titles for Microsoft to buy, since they can't come up with any of their own.
You don't see Sony trying to buy into Xbox associated brands.
Someone tell to Brandon Thompson from gofanboy.com, [oh man, How Ironic] that Nobody cares What He says...
No one wants Final Fantasy anyway. It's a dead franchise with gameplay that gets worse with every new title and has the same story every time: transsexual hero saves the world.
Final Fantasy 13 sales are lagging behind earlier titles even with opening to the xbox market. It's obvious that the fans are leaving Square Enix behind. As am I. My money finds better game on all of the gaming platform. Multiplatform doesn't equal double the sales. I hope they have realised this by now.
No but more than half of them are ps3 owners and would like a BIGGER and MORE AMBITIOUS FF title that isn't limited due to some other hardware limitation.
I think we'd all like to have big games made from the ground up for our console of choice. Porting, or parallel programing always results in downgrading on one of the platforms.
Right on..
I could careless if FF goes multi. But dont cut content to cater to the other console. That pisses me off to no end.
FF7 for PS1 made FF mainstream. and then FF8, FF9, FFX, FFXI, FFXII.. all of them are strong sellers on playstation platforms. until now with FFXIII, its still is a high earner on playstation. square owes it to playstation fans.
FF1-6 were exclusive to Nintendo consoles. FF7 was also on the PC, 8 was on the PC, 11 was on the PC.13 was on the 360 and 14 will be on the PC.
So exactly how many main FF games were exclusive to Sony platforms? 9, 10 and 12.. 3 out of 13 games? Hardly a PS franchise but I guess if thats the only console you've ever played it would be easy to make that assumption
@Seferoth75
with your definition of Exclusive, the 360 has almost zero as most of there games are on PC as well. I still consider Mass Effect and Gears to be 360 exclusives personally, as I don't count PC as a console. Also 11 was on ps2 and the 360.
Final Fantasy 1 was published in Japan 1987 and three years later(1990) in the US. Interesting fact, in later iterations it was thought the series would prove to complicated for the West and weren't even released. Final Fantasy 2 sold over a 1.8 million in Japan and was later remade for the US(the original was never released outside of Japan) and only solded a fraction. Final Fantasy 3 introduced a new Job system and was starting to find its feet. Again this game never released outside of Japan. Final fantasy 4, or as its known in the US ,2, was released in 1991 and was called 2 in the US due to 2 and 3 never being released outside of Japan, and thus never really hitting the big time until the 3D release of Final Fantasy 7 on the Sony Playstation. Now, no one is saying its a Playstation brand, but more of where it became a brand yes it was ported to the PC, but merely spreading it wings due to its popularity on the Playstation brand, and not in any way comprising the quality of the final product.
The issue with PS3/FF fanboys comes when FF13, an exclusive, was abruptly compromised, compressed, cut and delayed due to a wealthy, and most envious, business man wanting a slice of the pie. I don't recall anyone actually saying Final Fantasy, a franchise owned by Square Enix, belongs to Sony. What I do recall is the annoyance, frustration and sense of being cheated. People who were of shelling out a lot of money for a console that would produce the next generation of Final Fantasy due to its superior hardware, were quite frankly shat on.
@topshelfcheese,
And your point would be what exactly? That I know what an exclusive game is? What exactly did that load of dribble have to do with what I said? Of course if it's on PC and 360 it isnt exclusive but what in Gods name does that have to do with what I posted?
Oh you thought I would argue? Stupid of you. So let me sum up. You disagree with me about only 2 FF games being exclusive to Sony and your proof of this is that some 360 fanboys call MS exclusive games 360 exclusive games?
Sad really but I think what is even more pathetic is 7 people actually thought your BS was valid. Oh and where did I say 11 wasnt on PS2? I just listed other formats just to show it wasnt exclusive. NOw try to respond to that by focusing on Sony and the points made here. Not some fanboy childish rant about MS exclusives that has nothing to do with Sony fanboys claiming FF is a PS franchise.
and to you and the other 6 fanboys that disagree, prove me wrong that only 2 games were FF exclusive, or prove how 2 games makes it a Sony franchise.
sorry it was not mainstream at least not in EU, the first FF that was released on a CONSOLE here was FF7, and i remember all the Adds from sony...and after the success of FF7 all other FF were ported to PS1
FF anthology and Final Fantasy Chronicles
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Yes because we don't need TOWNS, NON linear gameplay, incredible graphics, HUGE worlds, just ONE disc, HD sound, and the power of the CELL BE and those stupid fast leave Superman in the dust SPE's/
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Even the Journalists are getting butt-hurt lately? Reporting article due to excessive fanboyism.
I wonder what would happen with all these websites and articles if n4g didn't exist.
Smokey, they'd all be out of their easy jobs and would actually have to "work" to make their money.
They would die the death the deserve.
Whats with all the horrible articles today?
lol since you said that watch they bubble you down and report what you said as trolling
"What's with all the horrible articles today?"
Maybe Skynet has finally become self-aware and this is only the beginning.
FF13 only sold well on PS3 due to the Japan Sales, I am guessing FF13 sold better on 360 in America.
Millions of copies sold on the 360, which is fine. More money for them and a better chance for versus to come to the 360. How can you avoid taking it multiplatform ? It's like saying you don't want to make money. Exclusives that aren't company exclusives like "Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony made" are becoming a thing of the past. It's a business first.
Lol
Your guess is wrong. PS3 version outsells the 360 in EVERY possible region existing in Earth.
@crapgamer
FFXIII sold better on the PS3 version:
NA/EU:
PS3 - 2 million
360 - 1.3 million
Japan
PS3 - 2 million
But I agree with you though, I also think third party devs should go multiplat as well, but it is also their choice if they want to make one of their titles exclusive or not.
you guys forgot to mention that MS had EU and US ad rights.So they couldn't even buy there way into selling more and they did try.
I'm getting old? I remember the first FF was on the NES if memory serves me correctly.
But who cares? Its been on every system this gen in some form of fashion.
Someone Tell goFanboy.com Final Fantasy was nothing before PlayStation
I hate FF BTW!!!!!!!!!!
also the so called sony fanboys are the same ff fanboys and ff fanboys are the same old SNES fanboys =======> this implies that ff is in fact their franchise.
see what i did there!!!!!!!!!!!
"Someone Tell goFanboy.com Final Fantasy was nothing before PlayStation."
It was nothing but seven games spanning two console generations. Some of them are remade for modern systems, probably to recoup the initial investment. And there's a wii only epilogue to FF6. I doubt it's because the game was successful and often played. They probably had to cut the original game short from lack of funds.
How would it have survived without playstation? God bless Sony.
The Playstation gave Final Fantasy a name outside of Japan. Before Final Fantasy VII the games were very low key outside of Japan. After Final Fantasy VII on the Playstation, every Final Fantasy game has been met with fanfare and sales. Were it not for Final Fantasy VII being released as it was, and on the Playstation, we would not care about Final Fantasy. It would be relegated to a completely niche series that very few people outside of Japan would have the chance to care about. Other titles are trying to do the same thing. Yakuza is the first that pops to mind (also on the Playstation).
"After Final Fantasy VII on the Playstation, every Final Fantasy game has been met with fanfare and sales."
And complaints the series is worsening in quality. FF7 is a high point. If you like old fantasy you also like FF3 better (FF7 had a dystopian futuristic environment).
"Were it not for Final Fantasy VII being released as it was, and on the Playstation, we would not care about Final Fantasy."
We would not care about FF? You would not care about FF. Get out of here. Like no one bought square games during the SNES era.
"It would be relegated to a completely niche series that very few people outside of Japan would have the chance to care about."
Your revisionist history is cute. I just remember being 10 and FF2/FF3/Chrono Trigger/Secret of Mana always being checked out at Blockbuster.
I just rented FF13. Returned it in 2 days and bought Dragon Age instead. This has been a pattern since FFX (though I also quit in the middle of FF8).
It's a niche series with 7 entries across two console generations. With very similar RPGs sold for the same system (Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana). For the NES/SNES generation that is huge.
FF3 is my favorite in the series(I rent each and quit because I can't take them). I like SNES Square games the best. Now I play WRPGs. By very few people you mean very few people like yourself.
Don't care for it going multiplat. Nor Metal Gear, either. Even GTA didn't bother me that much, the DLC did, however. I was personally more insulted by Tekken TBH because the whole Tekken series STARTED ONLY ON PLAYSTATION, well, minus for arcades.
basically Tekken should had been out years ago but you saw what happened to that.
Jesus how many articles a day do we need raging against "sony fanboys"? Who are the real "fanboys"? The ones writing these articles every single day perhaps? Suck it up, if you can't take debate and criticism GTFOff of N4G and game forums entirely.
"Someone Tell Sony Fanboys Final Fantasy Isn't Their Franchise"
Because you can't do a decent job of it?
And seriously, trying to ignite an already burning topic further is only going to earn you negative rep.
this writer sounds like the snot-nosed whiny kid that nobody likes.
"mooooom, jimmy won't let me play but i wanna play toooo! it's not fair!" *wipes grubby nose on sleeve*
Most gamers believe final fantasy is a playstation franchise and truth be told it is. Personally I was and still am a Sega Fanboy. When the original Final Fantasy was on the NES I was more than content with my sword of vermillion, phantasy star, shining force, and Fatal Labryinth on the Genesis.
I didn't seriously play and or beat a Final Fantasy until final fantasy 7 on the playstation....take it for what it is. 6 final fantasy games came out before I even cared enough to borrow my cousins playstation to beat a ff game.
Get your facts straight. This is the second time you've said the 360 version of FFXIII sold better on the 360. Since you are on the internet why not search out this info?
Ah muderdolls, you've had some respectable comments as of late. That one you just mentioned brought you right back down to the Fanboy clown that you are.
Way to just throw away the REAL reason for the outrage of this RUMOR (as if we don't know that we should take it as something more seeing as how Wada and Ballmer are in bed together, apparently) and make up a completely ridiculous, "failproof" reason of "OMG, Sony fanboys are just whining that they might lose another exclusive that they were "entitled to" to my paycheck signers".
Did anyone catch the Sherlock Homes 360 version contest ad on the page? I rest my case.
nah Square Enix sold out.. cant blame em Microsoft have alot of money and their willing to spend it.
The reason why they are consider making it multiplatform is because the game probably isn't that good. The japanese game industry is failing the only thing good that has come out is resident evil 5. European and and american developers are the ones making good games. I still though would like to see an rpg use the ps3s potential like god of war 3 but its up to sony themselves to make that happen.
SE has a chance to redeem themselves with Versus by rebuilding their reputation.
Sony should really look at creating a top notch JRPG that will blow any JRPG out of the water like they have done with GT in racing as well as others.
Its just gonna add these features to the game we should be so happy.
-Linearity confirmed
-Content being cut confirmed
-Need to wait 1 more year for the game to arrive confirmed
-Not utilizing the power of the ps3 so no advent childern gfx confirmed
-No jap VA confirmed
Yeah we sure should be happy its going multiplat honestly 360 fans think they should get every ps3 third party exclusive and anyone that doesnt want it to go multiplat is suddenly a fanboy.
"Yeah we sure should be happy its going multiplat honestly 360 fans think they should get every ps3 third party exclusive and anyone that doesnt want it to go multiplat is suddenly a fanboy."
You, sir/ma'am, just got a bubble from me, as that is one of the best counters (and TRUEST counters) to that whole "PS3 fanboys thinking they are entitled to everything" argument they love to come up with that I have ever had the privilege to read. You're also so correct of the majority response to stuff like this and what counter they love to use, too.
This article, though, has one thing right (and it's the ONLY thing it got right, as the rest of it is pure rubbishy flame bait garbage): the news today was NOT a confirmation (as much as we know how Wada works anymore. He's Japan's Bobby Kotick) that it WILL happen, and thus, cooler heads CAN prevail here. However, the guy needs to start caring or understand why the venom is spewed at such news and rumors.
who cares this game/franchise is dead to me... and im sure not the only one... this new installment was ajoke
Ff xiii hasnt turned out as it did, because it went multiplatform. Fanboys and developers just use multiplatform as an exscuse for mistakes. Take lost planet 2 as an example they said it ould be bigger if it were ps3 exclusive but they could still release the cut content on an extra disc or as dlc(they probably only use this as an excuse to make overpriced dlc out of cut content).
the SNES games were best for FF, FF6 really blew my mind. The intro sequence was like the greatest thing when I was a kid. Also, it's not on SNES, but Tactics for the GBA still rates as my favorite.
The fact that the non-PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIII is a complete downgrade disagrees.
I thought Squaresoft jumped to Sony because if they were going to make a FF7 on a Nintendo console with 16 MB cartridges (on average ) it would become too expensive. I mean comeon if we were going to port FF 7 from PS1 to N64 lets do the math.
3 Compact Disc's = (about) 2.1 GB convert that to MB = 2100, divide by average N64 cartridge size 16 MB = god only knows how many N64 Cartridges.
For those that would like to read more.
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Someone tell these small-time website that it's been said many times before.
EVERYONE knows it was on Nintendo first.
Seriously, this war against fanyboys all of a sudden just highlights the main reason why small-time websites like these are not considered "real journalists". You take what people say online to heart. As someone in the public eye, you have to learn to keep hatred behind what is important. Everyone is going to disagree and argue about something you said, even if it's "The World Is Green" (wtf? Ur stupid, the world has more blue than green!).
Give it a rest. What's more annoying than fanboys? The "journalists" who project their behavior...
Lots of articles raging against the "evil Sony fanboys" lately around here. Makes me wonder who the true fanboys are. Making a stupid comment on this site's talkback is one thing, being childish enough to go and blog about the "evil fanboys" is on an entirely different level.
That's kind of sad.
Ever since FFXII was published by Sony, it spearheaded the franchise putting Squaresoft to the map. If anything, Squaresoft owes a lot to Sony for it's success not to mention the CD which gave them more space to work on the the N64. I hope they do the same for FFvXIII.
-End statement
The new age gamers aren't seeing it for what it is.
Artist usually don't show full potential under presure. Or doing a multitask because....
You are working on 2 different things. shock. 1 holds more, 1 can't who suffers = gamers/people who pay for incomplete work who later on have to pay $3 or more for hidden costumes and levels. Just because you support a company that does this doesn't mean that we should.
is it was believed to be exclusive.thats why people r getting pissed off.and like all exclusives it shows wut that console can do wit the game.so this fanboi and his unnecesary rant is pretty pointless.ironic a fanboi tryin to call out other fanbois.f##kin pathectic
we know that final fantasy starts on nintendos console back in 80's from ff1 to ff6 mi right?.. ok
now back in 1997 squaresoft brings Final Fantasy 7 on Playstation which helps final fantasy games more popular, right?.. thanks to Playstation and FF7 makes Final Fantasy franchise popular.. Without playstation Final Fantasy frachise would Suck afterall
The only Final Fantasy games I've played on Sony consoles is about ten minutes of FFX.
Other than that it's a PC (7,8) or Nintendo DS (4,6) franchise for me.
oh my god not another Sony fan boy rant lol its really funny how xbox fanboys call sony fan boys the worst yet who is writing articles about who i mean really imo there becoming worse by writing all these damn articles about "Sony fan boys did this Sony fan boys did that" blah blah blah blah blah!!! cry me a river I'm sure where all getting sick of this! i don't ever hear any one say that the franchise was Sony only,but of course one fan boy says one thing and some 40 year old hairy troll living in his mom's basement writes an article about it.ahh gotta love the Interwebs.
PlayStation put Final Fantasy on the map, Sonys use of CD saw to that.
BTW Nintendo idiots should stop calling Metal Gear Franchise thers. When it first started life on the MSX.
This isn't about some percieved franchise ownership, it's about getting a game that was promised and I don't mean "only on PS3", I mean the flagship Final Fantasy title we're yet to get this gen. Fact is, multiplatform games ARE downgraded games, exclusives will always deliver the final push.
Man the author needs to learn to write a little more clearly. The middle paragraph was a jumbled read due to poor sentence structure.
FF's best years have been on PlayStation, and apart from FFVI and perhaps IV all the best titles as well. Not to mention that the fanbase is on PlayStation, and Squarenix started working on PlayStation (after becoming Squarenix)
But of course it's mainly Nintendo and PlayStation, even though PlayStation might have taken the best bite. 360 has gotten the worst part of the pie.
You wouldn't call Metal Gear a nintendo franchise even though it started there.
(Seriously, three games plus Super Smash isn't enough)
That the rabid sony fanboys have earned themselves these days. I'm not going to say it's undeserved. Maybe this IS slightly too Forward.
I'd imagine we can expect to see more of this as the games journalists seem to have finally gotten as sick of the Sony fanboy reaction to EVERYTHING as I have. Dude... it's just games. It's not like sony is paying you to explode about every little thing...plus your devoting yourself to a company who probably cares more about tvs and cameras then games.
Yeah there are some fantastic games but... The fanboys have soured the system for everyone who cares about them. I'll probably buy it after sony makes it's next console. It and all of it's games will be crazy cheap at that point anyhow.
I here A LOT of Sony fanboys complain because FF is on 360 now.
If Sony got FF from Nintendo why shouldn't 360 get it from Sony? 360 is just doing the same thing as Sony did...It's a fact Sony fanboys can't handle the truth and are butt hurt over it...Why else would they complain about it?
Brandon Thompson writes: "Gamers have seen few franchises with histories as impressively deep and memorable as the Final Fantasy series. Besides being known for great story lines lovable heroes, Square/Enix's uber-popular franchise is also known for having some of the meanest and most evil baddies in the history of video games.
What does it take to make a successful bad guy who makes a real impact on gamers? The character's costume certainly plays a part. Maybe it's how dramatic of an introduction the character has? Maybe it's all about how insanely crazy, strong, and determined the antagonist is. We still think the costume plays some part. You be the judge."
Kefka been there before and surpassed him. As I love Sephiroth, he's my favourite villain, Kefka is much more than him. Makes Sephy look like a wannabe.
Sephiroth is more bad ass than Kefka, but no one will be crazier than Kefka. The guy is a definition of 'evil'. He should be tops in that list, not Sephiroth.
from the article - "While we’re not allowed to number our top five lists anymore, there’s little doubt that Sephiroth would top the list if it were titled "popular" bad guys. Even though he's not the most evil, his hatred puts him in the top five."
Why can't you number a top 5?
lol, Sephiroths a little mommas boy always crying for mother. Kefka actually destroyed the world unlike the rest of them.
Sephiroth is a big wet p(an)sy. I'd rate Kuja over him, and Kuja is basically a schoolgirl.
Hands down: Sephiroth. What other villian has a symphony orchestra perform his theme song to live audiences? huh huh? That's right, Sephiroth PWNS!!!
was that a chick dressed as him in the pic. I would have to say the one I hated the most was seymor from FFX. Turned his mom into a summons and kept her in the basement all chained up.
Sephiroth has more rich character development, and a more obvious motivation for destruction. While Kefka is insane, Sephiroth was once psychology (seemly) normal, and even a great hero at one point.
He also didn't think what he was doing was wrong at all. Sephiroth honestly thought he was saving the world by becoming it's God.
"Sephiroth is more bad ass than Kefka, but no one will be crazier than Kefka. The guy is a definition of 'evil'. He should be tops in that list, not Sephiroth."
I kinda agree with that, though they did say they aren't allowed to number them. :p
Granted Sephiroth is another likeable villian from the FF series, I'd have to give the Bat**** crazy overall title to Kefka. The amount of stuff Sephiroth did in FF7 is kinda pale in comparison to the amount of grief, death, and overall things Kefka did in FF6.
However Sephiroth did make it seem more personal to what he did, which still makes him on the top lists.
why would sefi top the list the list said most evil bad guys technically speaking compared to what some of the other FF have done and what some of them actually are like the embodiment of malice itself sefi isn't really all that evil just someone who went insane
its just a popularity thing in the end anyways
I define evil as someone for no remorse or compassion for no living being on this planet. A pure malicious conscious from beggining to end. Someone that not even his/her mother would love. For this, Kefka takes the specifications perfectly. A pathetic weakling from the start of the game, towards becoming something like the devil itself. But regardless of his power, he was always an evil twat.
Barthandelus in XIII was pretty lame, even if it wasn't hermaphrodite lame like almost all other FF villains, he was pretty lame.
Most evil had to be Kefka... sorry Sephiroth fans, he was just a lonely kid who missed mommy.
dear god, main villain of ff13 was probably the worst villian in any game since xenosaga 2....probably cuz they r both popes.....but UGhhh, i think ff13 wuda been better if guy cid, or guy with silver hair or even jihl (chick with huge rack) was the main villain.
i loved the whole cast except for main villain. uggh i hate him so boring
Sephiroth = Most Popular Villain
Kefka = Most True Villain
Kefka is THE villain of villains, the guy destroys the world and is just insanely mad and changed how villains were in the past FF games. He wasn't "I'm the best, I am the top villain" he started off as weak, and even goofy.
I really hope they do a Remake of FF6 on the 3DS (or even PS3 for that matter) the game deserves more of a Remake then FF7 (Yep I said it).
only in the sense that not as many people have played it, and is lauded as being one of the best ffs ever. I myself haven't played it, but I've looked for it once or twice and couldn't find it.
sephiroth is the most badass no matter how evil any1 else is.
kefka is a freakin clown and always lost points because of that to me lol.
when u see sephiroth u know somethin epic is gonna happen.
kefka u just know hes a looney and will laugh alot....sorta like miyamoto XD
Totally agree, Kefka might be the unstable crazy guy who laughs and is twisted, but sephiroth adds 100 more layers to the word "evil". Sephiroth is humanised in some respects and the player can understand the roots of his evil ways, knowing he wasnt always evil and grew into one badass psycho allows the gamer to become more immersed in sephiroth's transgression into legendary badass.
When kefka was on the screen it wasnt near as captivating as when sephiroth was. The music for sephiroth was just perfect. Every gamer can still hear that music when they remember sephiroth... Surely thats reason enough for him to be the best bad-guy of the series... hell even a great contender for best bad guy of any game.
But even still, probably the most iconic moment for me that makes sephiroth the purest evilest character was the murder of aeris.
u just know stuff is crazy when he's there lol.
somethin bout a clown just always seemed stupid to me. but kef is still a good villain.
and ur right, its that amazing song that just adds to the epicness :D
haha true, first time i fought kefka i was like /dam this is going to be a incredible battle!/ 5 atacks later - i won and he escaped laughing, (lol ?) BUT still, Kefka did actually destroyed the world, that clown needs points for that :/ and Sep.. well he just want to kill the good guys, i want a remake of FFVI so bad :S just think about it, Sabin doing the slam atack to a TRAIN!? DAM i must see that on high def!
title says most evil guy...sadly i have to give it to kefka
Sephiroth simple wasn't bad enough from the start he created that mom complex, got confused and delusional..
Kefka was just pure evil since the start
other final have not have a good villain since FF6 in my opinion...
Sephiroth Character creation was well made but Personality was not the definition of evil.
Kefka..was just pure evil even though the jester.clown dress concept dint attract much ppl on liking him but he is the must evil and plays the villain roll better than the rest.
-sorry for my english its not my main-
while ur entitled to ur own opinion, lets make it simple.
kefka had evil intentions yes buuuut
did he kill the love interest of the main character? no he killed no one as a matter of fact, sephiroth is the only character to actually kill someone off in well almost any jrpg period, he killed many, from shinra soldiers, tifa's entire village and father, to aerith, even leading to zacks death.
sephiroth nearly destroyed the entire planet, its was seconds away from destruction, u dont have to be crazy to be evil, it was his intent that was evil
"he killed no one as a matter of fact"
You're delusional .
kefka killed :
- the emperor.
- cyan ENTIRE village.
- countless villages when he tipped the statues ( you can see quakes all around in the cutscène )
- general leo.
- and the list goes on
and he ruled afterwards.
not to mention all the mind control and all the other bad dead he did ...
sephiroth killed aeris (no fight at all ... going from the back ) and the former shinra president ( a fat guy with no fighting skill ) and a bunch of no name soldiers ...
Midgard right of the bat I see you don't know what you are talking about. Kefka killed lots of people before he became a god like entity. He poisoned a town and everybody died, he succesfully absorbed the power of Gods to become one himself. He destroyed a planet and made it his image. Basically, he did everything Sephiroth failed to do.
Not to mention that overall he was a more interesting villain with personality. Not so emo and plastic like Sephiroth. I actually liked Kefka besides all his evil doings.
"Nothing can beat the music of hundreds of voices screaming in unison." Kefka
"sephiroth nearly destroyed the entire planet, its was seconds away from destruction, u dont have to be crazy to be evil, it was his intent that was evil"
Where as Kefka DID destroy the planet. The both idea of intent and crazy to be evil is still leading off...to be evil.
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Why in the world did you guys give him 2 disagrees for something that is true? >_>
all these people calling sephy a pansy are pathetic.
Kefka was worthless in comparison.
yea he may have been crazy but he never attack one person so hard...taking everything they loved and just destroying it over and over. thats more evil than any other FF bad guy.
Hell Seph is more twisted in his finger then kefkas pathetic ass.
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BTW killing everyone and destroying the planet doesn't do much. since people aren't around to feel the pain from it. while what seph did, cloud, tifa, barret, the main cast and most of the people after *movie* had to suffer constantly from what he did, sorry causing someone constant pain is far worse then killing them.
Sepiroth is an emo that fails doing anything
Kefka is a mutthafkka which breaks the 4th barrier and wants you to destory the tv you're playing the game on, and also destroys the whole world while laughing in your face at your failure of stopping him
It says in the article that Sephiroth is "not" #1, but would be if it were "most popular" villain.
Sephiroth is for sure the most evil of all of them, first of all it was Gaia greatest hero the strongest warrior in existence all the boys admired him and wanted to be like him when they grow up, all that gives him a gr8 background from where our story unfold that's a plus.
When he learn about the experiments they did to him and what they did to his mother (the alien being from where they use genes to make him the ultimate soldier) he "snap" and want to take revenge from the humans for what they did (use his mother as a guinea pig) he burn down Nibelheim every one die in the fire including Cloud's mother, Tifa's father follow after that trying to stop him that was only the start.
Now dont forget the hundreds of Shinra soldiers he killed when he invade Shinra tower, among them was even the president Shinra, now if we add to all this the murder of Aeris one of your players when she left and went alone to stop him and sacrifice her self, (the most tragic/sad moment in the history of video games) now after all that how can you still disagree that Sephiroth is not the most evil villain ever in the FF franchise? even though didn't succeed to destroy the planet at the end, it was very close if the meteor land we all know what will be the outcome a huge portion of the planet would erased completely that's how far he was ready to go...
His madness and evilness make him the ultimate villain and no one can compare with him, at least until now I haven't see any one.. and as for popularity he is again number 1 one of the reasons FFVII is the greatest jrpg/FF & game ever created is Sephiroth it self you have so many reasons to hate him so many reason to keep you move forward to find him and settle everything once and for all.
<3 FFVII <3
"I haven't see any one."
go play ff6
"it was very close"
like most vilain ..before they are stopped by the heroes ...
you know what the other pathetic thing is.
Kefka completely fails, since once he is beat everything goes back to normal....sorry but last I checked the planet was still damaged people were still dead and alot of things screwed up. *aka stigma* thanks to seph.
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lol I love these debates I always used to think sephiroth was bad arse until i bothered playing on earlier FF's lol, kefka truly was evil
You know I've gone through this thread and anyone that has played FF6 before 7 ( yes us old folks)did love Jrpgs story driven deep characters before FVM became the OMGZ thing. If you're a PS1 gen gamer and that's what you played and got all caught up with the FFVII craze then ya you'll be "Sephi is da shyt" but after paying close attention to the master piece SE did with FF6 they couldn't top that.
Many on here are trying to find pros and cons to who is more evil but if you played all FF games you would notice that they tried to replicate the same evilness of Golbez from FF2( US)and give him a bad man look. But in fact he's evil to the core as what we see him, very emotional, lost, delusional, powerful, but in control of his self to a degree.
Kefka... this is the creation of pure evil, hate... hate,hate,hate,hate,hate , all of sephi minus the emotional & delusional problem and roll that up and you have the godly level of evil and hate.
Obviously FF6 remade in 3D would be epic, can you imagine all the skills, espers summon, the opera... the amount of magic , skills , and using magi tech armors....
I will love FF6 forever as it was the only FF game that brought so much to the table, multi player, street fighter actual moves, insane combos and equip combos ( Genji glove, I mean you know what I mean)... Esper summon that kills everything on screen... even the players, fallen one ( cheapness at it's best).
You either love 6 or 7, but let it be known that Kefka isn't just any clown. The jester had world destruction on his mind, and the emperor was just the vessel to bring it into his grasp.
Yeah FFVI had such a vast amount of characters that even though they were so much, they all had there slice of explaining there background and also being able to actually play as them. FFVI story was just too top notch. It really was the first FF that made me somewhat care (although FFIV was also great story wise aswell) about the characters and actually despise the villain for his constant nuisance and hatred of everything that breathes.
I do like FFVII and appreciate the story and all but FFVI was so awesome that topping everything that they succesfully accomplished on VI was a difficult task. I wish they can make another FF similar to VI when it comes to character integrations and decision making.
yeah i think golbez was badass and totally evil
even tho near the end he came back to his sense
To be fair, the real Sephiroth died when Cloud threw him into the Life Stream at the Mako Reactor. What you fight at the end of the game is a clone of Sephiroth.
Enough of the Final Fantasy 7 hatred also. Turn your hate towards the fanboys who REFUSE to believe that Final Fantasy 7 is NOT the greatest game ever made, and no other Final Fantasy game can compare to it.
Treat Final Fantasy VII with the same respect as you treat any other RPG or Final Fantasy game. Because all of them have something incredible to offer the player (though the same might not be said for the Square ENIX-made Final Fantasies...but I wouldn't know, I haven't played them, except for FFXII).
Final Fantasy VII was my first game. Mainly because, the Playstation was my first ever game console. It's my first love and favorite Final Fantasy because of it. Is it the best Final Fantasy game? Maybe, maybe not. I love it because it's my "first love" when it comes to the Final Fantasy games. But I'm not going to sit here and tell someone why it's the best, when each Final Fantasy in the series has something to offer someone else. You can't expect someone to play your favorite game and get the exact same feeling you did when you played it.
From what I read from your comments it seems that Kefka was content with ruling the planet. However i remember Sephi saying somewhere that his plan for the planet was to use it as his ship to travel the universe destroying other planets.
Lol I know i coulnd be very wrong, maybe Im gettin the idea from something else, but if this is true then Sephi would definitly be more evil. By not being content with destroying this planet alone, but traveling to others to destroy them as well.
how can you be evil, if everything you did is put back to normal once your defeated.....that's not evil thats pathetic.
its like freza.
So if a guy runs around raping people but is then killed by the cops does that not make him evil seeing as how the people he raped can pretty much live normal lives knowing the guys is dead. Saying Kefka isn't evil is hilariously far from the truth.
sorry , but even if the world comes back in a normal states ..the killed stays dead in ff6 end ...
and that's still a lot of people
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:( No Aerith? Not too bad of a list though.
MY top 5 are:
5. Celes Chere (VI)
4. Rinoa Heartilly (VIII)
3. Rosa Farrell (IV)
2. Oerba Yun Fang (XIII)
1. Aerith Gainsborough (VII)
DAYEM! Beatrix is a VERY close second to Tifa. I forgot all about her. The odd character proportions from IX worked on Beatrix, lol.
How is Fran not on there?
What are they smoking?!?!?!?
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What about Lulu? Am I the only one that thinks Lulu is smoking HOT!!!?
I agree Fran should be in there too i like her. (it's the ears) maybe I have a fetish :)
Lulu, was always my favorite, i never though yuna was hot for a second, same with rikku.
Actually, it was always Fran's accent that really got me, as far as attractiveness goes. Penelo, physically and socially, is more my type, though.
I find myself ashamed that I even commented on this thread. But... anything Final Fantasy grabs my interest!
-Arvis
I think Lulu should've been on there... :P
She's definitely my #2. (After Tifa of course :P)
tifa is so sexy, always loved her the most. tho i think that serah (ff13) is really cute aslong as shes cosplayed by an 18 yr old girl lol
I've seen beautiful Asian/Oriental girls cosplay as Tifa.
I really need to meet them :p
http://www.gofanboy.com/ima...
EWEWEWWEWEWWWW.
-Throws up-
Cosplay...Is...Evil. O.o
That chick cosplaying Beatrix did a really good job. She doesn't look Asian either, which is rare.
Now it's time for me to look for some FFXIII Hentai and add to my wall paper PC and ZUNE Screen Paper.
I just dont understand how someone can think a digital, life-less person is "sexy".