Wada: Nintendo Wii Can't Compete With PS3, Xbox 360

Yasuhiro Wada, creator of Harvest Moon, believes that "Wii cannot really compete against PS3 or Xbox 360? and that DS is its main competiton.

Wada is currently development director over at Rising Star Games and in a recent interview with Spong, was asked to give three pieces of advice to Nintendo to ensure that Wii continues to succeed.

[FordGTGuy]

If you own either the Xbox 360 or the PS3 you probably own a Wii to with one of them. Thats what makes this next gen war strange with Nintendo since most of the people buying the Wii are already owners of either Xbox 360 or PS3 or both.

[FordGTGuy]

Most of Nintendos fanbase is also part of either the Xbox or Sony fanbase to.

[BIadestarX]

I made it even + 1 agree... people disagree for for doing that.. happends to be all the time. You may have a few fans...

I guess people get confuse about how many console the wii is selling. They see the numbers and they think they wii will win this console war. I don't think the wii is even fighting the war. I compare the wii to a bicycle and the ps3 and the 360 to cars. More bicycles are sold than cars, we all know that. bicycles are fun and children love to ride. Heck from time to time adults like to go to the part with their families and have fun. bicycle are also good excercise and some people that have cars also have bikes. Never the less a bike can't replace a car, and I would hate having to ride my bike 60 miles a day to get to work in my bike. No thanks. Then again, I wouldn't give a 6 year old a car to drive, bicycle will do until he is old enough to handle a car. Metal Gear, Gears of war, Resistance, Halo3 when will you ever see games like that in the wii? Will the wiimote make games like that possible in that console? Can Gears or Resistance be made on the wii? Point, wii is fun.. but can't be compared to the PS3 or 360 no matter how many consoles they sell.

[Babylonian]

your're absolutely right on that one. I myself will get a PS3 and a Wii just to play some Zelda.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

I think you are right when you say the Wii isn't even fighting the war. They are what they are but they are really not competing with the 360 or the PS3. For most gammers I know it's not whether to get one of the others or a Wii its whether they are even interested enough in the Wii to get it with one of the others.

EDIT: So its not that they "can't" compete, it's that they "choose" not to. They deny the battle.

[OutpostCommand]

Bladestar-
for the first time, I must say I agree with you.

Another comparision would be food.

The Wii is like a a bar of chocolate - everyone likes a bit of chocolate, but you cant live on it alove, or else...well, you will die.

The 360 is like Ribs - deny it or not, you will want some.

The PS3 is like a sunday roast - it is...uh...versatile, and has...many functions. It has a lot of everything.

Yes, I realize its a crappy comparison, but I hope you realise what im getting at.

One of the things which annoys me about this site however, is there are many immature people, and it is really off-putting.
For example, I think the 360 is a great machine. As is the PS3.
However, some of the idiots on this site cause me to make myself make it look like I hate the 360 just because of their idiocy. If some people were just more civilized we would live in brilliant times.

For example, Mart-
Why do you bother ? What did Sony ever do to you ? You show so much hate its rediculous - and for what ? To make yourself feel better about your purchase ? DUDE, you already have a great console - enjoy it ! Why waste time flaming people on these forums who are just checking the news, when you could be pwning people on XBL ?

I dont get it - it dawned on me about half a hour ago;
WHY ALL THE HATE ?

Seriously, im thrilled with my PS3. I do not need to be told "OMG Sony is evil" because they are not.
I do not need to be told "j00 f4gz0r - you wast3d £425 !!1" because I feel I didnt.
I dont need to have "PSN is teh sux !" because it isnt.

All the usual people, who waste time here, when they could be kicking backsides on XBL/PSN, why do you bother ?
Mart, Power Of Green, and all the others - why ?
No, seriously, ask yourself, "why ?"
Im no hippy, I sure as hell tell you - im a full on militarist, but dont you realize...? We are all gamers !
Why are we turning on each other ?
The real enemy is people like Jack Thompson, or the average idiot consumer who believes everything they read in the tabloid they buy daily.

If you have a PS3, then let me tell you, the 360 is not who you should be directing your hate on.
Same if you have a 360.
The fact is, both are brilliant machines, and incredibly capable-

The PS3 has a fantastic processor. Its unparalled - there is no processor more powerful, and there will not be for some time.
It also has a good GPU. Sure, the RSX isnt a 8800GTX in SLI, but coupled with Cell, it sure as hell isnt no slacker.

The 360, even though it has a somewhat less powerful processor, it isnt exactly a Pentium 2.
The 360s CPU pretty much pwns anything the PC market has to offer, much like the Cell, so its pretty powerful. Its also easier to work with than the Cell, so you will find the 360 will be getting better looking games until the PS3 programmers will learn how to master Cell.
To add to that, the 360 has a superior GPU to the PS3 to make up for the slightly less powerful CPU, so both consoles end up being on par with each other.

So, to sum up, BOTH CONSOLES ROCK !
Why hate on either ?

If you really want to hate on something though, and Mart, I recommend you read carefully, then hate on the Wii.
The Wii is posing a similar threat to the gaming industry like EA.
Not in the same sense, but in a similar threat level.
Do YOU want gimmicky controls to be standard on every console where you need to get a severe armache when settling down for some hardcore gaming ? Do YOU want 95% of games released to be childish, and typically 'lala land' ? I dont know about you, but i sure as hell DONT - I DEMAND my fix of Gears of War, and I THIRST for Metal Gear.

So, to put it simply, why hate on each other, fellow gamers ?
Hate on our REAL enemies, not each other.

[ItsDubC]

Explain how something that brings gaming to a wider audience is threatening the industry.

[gta_cb]

whatever the case, i like the Nintedo Wii, and maybe in the future i mite buy one, or buy one for my lil brothers :D

[sloth4urluv]

wii is fun, but I thought it was kinda obvious that it wasnt competing with the 360 or the PS3.

[gta_cb]

it is obvious which is why it isnt really news lol, although like someone else said i agree with him, i think its more of the case there choosing not to. i mean it came out after the 360 and they could have chosen to go for graphics aswell as next gen technology, rather then just next gen technology, but then it would probadly cost as much or more then a PS3 (weather or not they include a HD DVD or BluRay drive)

[ItsDubC]

Wait, so you're saying that the nextgen technology in the Wii that differentiates it from the other consoles costs as much as or more than implementing Blu Ray support?

[Robotz Rule]

I never knew that,duh!

[solideagle1]

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[Imknow1]

If you could find one in stores. Almost six months and still they can't stock up, good lord :D

[rigo92]

I am tired really, of this "hardcore" gamer thing, please ppl, stop this.
I mean, I can understand the difference between a casual and a true gamer, that is obious to how much we play and the importance it has on us.

But really, automatically assuming that only casuals buy the wii is stupid, and also assuming that if a "hardcore" buys it, its only in addition to a 360 or ps3.

You've all made some reasonable points, but you are being a bit extreme. I consider myself a "true gamer", been gaming since the early days of Doom, Duke Nukem and the SNES, up untill now, always gamed heavily.

Listen ok, not EVERYBODY in the whole world has an HDTV to fully enjoy the graphics of a 360/ps3. You americans should be happy for the customer support you get, and for the non-inflation of prices.

My cousin used to have a 360, it suddenly stopped working, since there is no M$ support in my country, he paid a random guy $100, he was able to fix it, but now it stopped working again, and since the guy opened up his 360, whatever warranty he had is now screwed. Thats why ill never buy a 360, the ps3 would be great, but aint too many games out there right now, I cant afford one (specially in my country) and its too freaking massive.

The Wii on the other hand, has never failed me, indestructible nintendo quality, ive had it since xmas, no nintendo console has EVER failed me.
It is also MUCH MORE affordable and is slim (I take my console with me everywhere I go, be it the beach, another house, whatever) so I carry it around EASILY.

I can also enjoy my library of GC games at any time without any updates whatsoever.

Graphics aint really hurtin, as i dont own an hdtv, i would care less if the graphics remain the same (they wont, theyll get much better), the late GC graphics such as RE4 are pretty enough for me. I would much rather have the same graphics with a much deeper, intuitive gameplay, as aint much more eye-candy left untapped on standard tvs.

Maybe in 5 years (next-war) I will really care more about graphics and MAYBE (50%) ill own an hdtv to make most out of graphics.

The Wii is a GREAT GAMING device, an excellent machine with some great games out there, and much more coming out in the future.

Oh and one more thing. About the "kiddy" stuff, seriously, which console DOES NOT have kiddy games. If you are like me and dont like kiddy stuff, simply DONT BUY KIDDY GAMES, thats it. In the future, I can see the Wii's library being as big, if not bigger than the ps2's, seriously, with 20+ games at launch, cheap dev costs, I can really guarantee it. Out of all those games im sure anyone will find something non-kiddy that they can enjoy.

And thats my final verdict as a gamer,
Peace

[unsunghero28]

I think that the argument on whether the Wii is fighting the war is purely semantic. It really depends on what you consider the war; personally, I consider it simply who can sell the most consoles, regardless of their approach, and as many great metaphors as there are to put it how you want, I think Nintendo is fighting just as much as anyone else.

To say that Nintendo's success is invalid because they are taking a different approach doesn't seem quite right to me. Personally I use my PC in the same way that a lot of people here use a PS3 or 360- as my "hardcore" gaming device. So, even though I'm still a hardcore gamer, the Wii is my ONLY next-gen console because (unlike the other 2 consoles) it offers an experience that is totally different from the PC.

[soundboy]

Dammit, I'm sick and tired of these articles comparing who's "winning the war", if Wii is outselling the PS3 or the 360, or stating something so obvious as "they can't be compared". Well, DUH! Of course they can't, isn't it blatantly obvious? And above that all, who gives a rat's ass who outsells who? In the end, it's all about who has the best games and thus the most fun console, not which company ends up with more of our money.

[DiLeCtioN]

i got a ps3 and a wii.. well not mine my sis does. imo the ii sales will drop just like the gamcube

[Shaka2K6]

I have to agree i think the wii is going to the same flop as the game cube, if the wii wins this gen. im out of the gaming world for sure, its just not the right path nintendo is not trying to save gaming they are traying to safe they butt making billions of dollars of the name, fanboys around the world and internet hype it got, once u play it its really nothing special thathasnt been done before, SingStar,Guitar Hero, Eyetoy,DDR ect. its just a gimmick. not a true gaming console.

[ItsDubC]

Don't get your opinion confused with fact. You have consistently made biased and low-quality comments on this site which is why you only have 2 bubbles. Back up your statements with reasoning. Explain why the Wii is not a "true" gaming console as opposed to just being a "different" gaming console.

[neogeo]

Does Nintendo care about a stupid war?? NO. There care about makeing a profit. And if the was is based on makeing a Profit, then Nintendo Is winning the "WAR"

[rigo92]

What do u mean with "not a true gaming console", of course it is, just cuz it doesnt have 1080i/p doesnt mean its not a gaming console.
Using your logic, a cell phone with no camera and no bluetooth would not be a "true cellphone", that is just plain stupid.

The only one thing I can agree with you is that nintendo is trying to save their own butts first, of course, in the conditions they were, who wouldn't?

I dont understand how they are "ruining gaming", they are simply expanding it for a broader audience, that guarantees more hardware sales as well as sales of casual games (which usually dont sell as much as "harcore" games), your "hardcore games" will always be there for you no matter what, cuz they are a goldmine of fanboy money (no offense intended), neither nintendo, nor the third-parties will ever stop making em.

Oh and by the way, singstar and everything else you mentioned is just stuff applied to particular games, NOT a control device used for every single game. If every console game came with a special device, they would of course be more expensive. The wii remote saves you from having to buy so many accesories.

About the sales flopping, thats what most fanboys or so called "hardcore gamers" want, on a more serious note however, only time will tell, but the wii has definitely had a great start, nearly as good as the ps2, it shows a lot of promise and seems to have an excellent staying power (in my case at least).

@ neogeo

you are right, nintendo (as well as any other company) has a primary objective of earning profit, they dont care what fanboys or anyone thinks, as long as they are beating the competition in sales, they will be more than happy.

[sumfood4u]

IN THE VIDEOGAMES WORLD, RETAIL SALES USUALLY DETERMINE WINNERS. NOT PEOPLES OPINIONS, BUT PEOPLE IS GONNA SAY WHAT'S ON THEIR MIND, LIKE I'M DOING NOW! NINTENDO IS TRYING SOMETHING NEW, THEY DON'T ABOUT WHAT SYSTEM IS BETTER, THEY CARE ABOUT MAKING SELLS, AND INNOVATING PEOPLE TO THE WORLD OF GAMES. MOST PEOPLE SAY THE Wii ISN'T IN THE WAR, CAUSE THEY JUDGE GAMES SOLEY ON GRAPHICS. I PREFER THE FUN FACTOR OVER GRAPHICS ANY DAY! SINCE FUN FACTOR WHAT MAKES GAMES FUN! I PLAN ON GETTING A PS3 AS WELL! BUT I'M JUST STATING THE OVIOUS PEOPLE ARE JUDGING GAMES NOW BY GRAPHICS, GOTTA NOTE FF12 HAD GREAT GRAPHICS BUT SUCKED IN STORY, AND CHARACTER DEFINING. I LIKE HOW GRAPHICS LOOK BUT NOT MATTER HOW SLICE IT THE Wii IS WINNING THIS SO CALLED WAR IN SALES. IF IT WAS THE WAR OF GRAPHICS I'D HAVE TO GIVE IT TO THE PS3! BEFORE PEOPLE START HATING ON WHAT I WROTE AND QUICKLY PUT DISAGREE, UNDERSTAND I'M SPEAKING MY MIND AS YOUR CHOSEN DISAGREE LMAO!

[Figboy]

i'm not interested in the Wii. not until it drops below $100. see, i already had a Gamecube, and Gamecube games were fine without a gimmicky controller attached to it.

i'd love to play Super Smash Bros and Metroid Prime, but ironically enough, Smash Bros isn't even going to use the wand! so i have to beg the question, why not release it on the Gamecube? looking at the trailer, the visuals aren't that much different or above the Gamecube, so why not make two versions to appeal to that 25 million people that own Gamecubes, and the growing 6 million people that own Wiis. practically EVERYBODY loves Smash Bros. my fiancee doesn't like those games, but even she had a ball with Smash Bros Melee.

my main problem with the Wii, is that there aren't any games outside of the two i mentioned above that interest me. i love Zelda, but i couldn't get into Twilight Princess, oddly enough. i would have preferred it have a darker version of the Windwaker visuals, which i thought didn't get enough love, personally. the psuedo "realistic" visuals of the game just don't work in todays age, where technology has jumped rather significantly.

i guess, after seeing, say, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, i can't help but wonder what Zelda would have been if the Wii had the power of a Xenon or Cell processor backing it.

after seeing ingame screens and vids of Ratchet and Clank Future, i can't help but imagine how draw-dropping the creative masterminds at Nintendo would have made Super Mario Galaxy, or Metroid Prime, or Smash Bros.

sure, it's a visual thing, but looking beyond the shiny graphics at the actual computational power of the 360 and PS3, i can't help but imagine the applications to time-honored franchises like Zelda and Metroid.

intelligent, physic based puzzles in Zelda. massive, epic battles across Zebes, with Samus laying a Nariko esque smackdown against all manner of Space Pirates and Metroids.

the types of weapons more technology would have made available.

and i admit, i am a bit of a graphics whore (as long as the gameplay delivers, like Shadow of the Colossus and RE4), so i would have loved to have seen a Zelda or Mario with visuals like R&C Future; almost Pixar like.

i do think the Wii is a good console for casuals and hardcore Nintendo fanatics (of which i'm not anymore. after gaming with them for over 22 years, i've kind of moved on from the big N), but the Wii isn't going to push gaming technology forward.

innovation is more than just an input device. a game is more than just a sum of it's parts. graphics, gameplay, input all work together, ideally, in a nice cozy balance that results in a great gaming experience in all areas.

with the technology we have available now, why SHOULDN'T our games look nice?

with the tech avaiable nowadays, why SHOULDN'T we have spot on controls and smooth framerates?

why shouldn't we have HD quality picture and sound?

as a side note, the whole HD argument is getting rather old and inaccurate, as the price of HDTVs have dropped significantly.

i've seen 20"-32" HDTVs going for less than $500 (the 20" were under $300, the 32" were under $500).

those prices are going to drop even more over time.

anyway, i gotta go and get some sweet, sweet loving from my baby, so i'm outta here! woo hoo!!

[ChickeyCantor]

yess lets make games for the GCN so the wii wont sell......=/
games like SSBB are the key for more wii-buyers.
if you aint buying no wii well no SSBB for you its simple as that and you shouldnt complain about it.

and there is a difference in gfx and saying there isnt is just foolish.

[ItsDubC]

Newsflash: Only about 35% of the American population currently owns an HDTV.

Hardcore gamers to which the PS3 and 360 appeal to are likely in that 35%. The Wii seems more likely to appeal to the other 65% than either the PS3 or 360 would.

[ChickeyCantor]

@fordgtguy

thats the problem with this website, well the members.
they disagree and dont even tell why, its kinda sad.