Gamepro: The Conduit review

Tae K. Kim writes:
"I'm not sure who I should blame for The Conduit's shortcomings. Do I blame the developer for making a rather generic shooter with a convoluted storyline that isn't as epic or mysterious as it wants to be or do I blame Nintendo for creating a console whose lack of hardware power essentially handcuffs every developer who tries to create a "next-gen" game for it? Hell, maybe I should stay within the game's conspiracy theme and just chalk it up to the Illuminati -- they're always trying to ruin everything, right?"

[Blink_44]

Perfect example of a horrible review.

EDIT: http://www.gamepro.com/game...

WTF!? They give the conduit a 3.5 and say that it just might be the Wii's best fps.....gamepro blows.

[Panthers]

No, that just shows that Wiis FPS games blow.

[dustgavin]

I have to agree with you on that one.

[GCNSeanFoster]

What is a "Reivew"?

Who are the idiots approving this stuff without reporting it for bad grammar?

[N4g_null]

Seriously does it matter? I have crysis and enemy territory: Quake wars at home and I'm still getting this game. Those games are better than every thing you have on consoles right now. I mean if you are not good at metroid then maybe you can not understand how much fun we are going to have. This game may expose more people to the motion control effect that you all cheer about, yet this is only the beginning. This game is about getting the core of FPS right not the extra fluff the stuff that you believed FPSing was about. I will be playing this game more than UT3 think about that.

This game is for people who play games not for people who just critique them. I think reviewers are missing the point well game pro is. Oh well it does not matter any way. This game is not being made to beat another console we already have games that do that. This game is not here to prove any thing to HD gamers. It is a game made for Wii owners who love FPS and people who love great controls.

If you are not going to get it then why bash this game? Why is there so much hate against this game? Also if all of you guys are here for sef then that's pretty sad, what are you proving? Wii owners are not going to care if this game flops are crushes halo, yes I said halo because I havn't seen a PS3 game sell that many copies yet. That's not hate that just the truth.

I mean really What are you guys trying to prove? We have fun, we have VC, wiiware and a nice line up that has already start producing games right now. You may not want this game but us wii gamers are going to buy this and we are not worried about rubbing this in your face ok? HD console have enough problems to deal with.

Lots of times I want to comment in your sections but I just realize like many others that you guys don't want to here things from another side.

So conduit is generic... you miss the point... halo is generic, quake 3 is generic, realism is generic. I play FPS because of the controls and the game play. I don't play FPS for stories only console gamers do that. I play side scrollers and mystery games for stories.

Another thing is don't you guys realize hating on this game is making it popular at the same time. I don't go and look at bad reviews but this post is 190 right now.... and most Wii owners don't even come to this site. Hey most people that are going to buy this game have made up their minds. We are not kids that serum to peer pressure about gaming. We know what we like and we don't like fluff.

[phantomexe]

gamepro not a very good site.If you guys have ever been to there forms those guys fuel a flame war.Just yesturday they droped some news saying actvion was going to pull support of the PS3.Gamepro not what they use to be.IMO

[Seferoth75]

Gamepro has always been Pro Sony. They'll use any excuse to justify it. I remember when they did their next gen score card and had PS3 ahead in every single area. Even had 2 catagories for Cell just to give PS3 the advantage. Looking back they couldnt have been more blinded by their fanboyism. Well Just Sid Shuman or whatever really. Their not all fanboys just the ones in charge.

In fact most Wii coverage doesnt even come from them. it comes from one of their sister sites. Their too busy cashing Sony checks for good reviews for crap games

[Fishy Fingers]

Ha, a fanboy moaning about bias. Gotta love them double standards.

[Syronicus]

You took the words right out of my mouth. Bubbles to ya.

The review is not all that good, I'll admit that but to insinuate the Sony Fanboy Theory here is just plain ludicrous.

[Anon1974]

You think maybe the reason behind Gamepro doing a next gen score card and ranking the PS3 above the other next gen consoles is because the PS3 is above the other next gen consoles? Just a shot in the dark here.
I wonder what "good reviews for crap games" he's referring to.

It's sad how he can't simply be happy to be a Wii owner without having to hate everything else for some reason. Personally, I think the Wii is a great little system, just not for me. I like the PS3. That doesn't automatically mean I have to slag every single other console under the sun.

[morganfell]

Anyone that has played the game has walked away shaking their head. Generic, no AI - NPCs are there they just do not have the "I" portion, and atrocious looking by today's standards. All of the smack talk from the dev team is now relegated to the Denis Dyack School of Game Development.

[mastiffchild]

Gamepro? Pro Sony? No, sorry, just no. Bad site? Yep. Pro Sony? No.

It's a very poor review as well when you consider the main thing HVS were after was making the first real full package FPS for Wii. If it had been anything other than a bit generic we should have been amazed frankly. As long as the SP is good enough and the mp surpasses the lag heavy MoH and the connection issue ptone WaW(plus it's 4v4 pointlessness) then it's doing it's job.

Look for the sequel to do the extras we expect from PS360 shooters as right now The Conduit just isn't competing with KZ2-and it doesn't need to does it? Halo CE didn't have to when it landed on the first Xbox and the FPS landscape on Wii is just as barren as that was then, no?

I've only played a little( at Liepzig last year)of an early build and though the AI wasn't like Killzones it was definitely as good as anything on the Wii. Also it was never HVS who said this would look like a 360 game-it was just a mistake that people made walking past their booth at E3 2008 wasn't it?

IF The Conduit was reviewed more in context of it's aims(and for this you HAVE to include mp) then I suspect a score higher than 7/10 can be expected but people think that HVS were aiming at MW, Killzone2 and Halo3 when really they just wanted to beat what Wii already had and they may have done that while finding out what's possible on the little white box.

[phantomexe]

DarkRide you are a hypocrite.You do your own share of consul bashing to be calling someone else for doing it.

[Anon1974]

I challenge you to find one post of mine where I console bash. Just one. I've been critical of all systems at times, but I have a point and I never make claims I can't substantiate. I never simply bash a console. I think each console this gen are great systems, and each has it's specific strengths and weaknesses and they've all had their missteps. If you believe otherwise you simply haven't been paying attention.

Don't go calling someone a hypocrite unless you can back it up, son.

[Seferoth75]

LOL at the real fanboys here.. Each and every one of you. If you dont think Gamepro is bias the way they always talk up Sony then you are one of two things. A. A complete idiot. B. A blind fanboy. Try actually going to the site for more than just one visit.

Hell I gave you one specific example and all you children completely ignored it. Proved your bias right there. But here is yet another example. When the Next gen play times come out SOnypro always posts them so that PS3 gets the most play time of ANY console.. However one look at the actual numbers shows PS3 dead last. They know the numbers are wrong but its helps them promote your chosen company so of course like good sheep you never complain.

[MEsoJD]

Your Frustration amuses me : p

[Mahr]

Seferoth75, let me see if I can frame this in a way that you'd understand.

Do you remember when Edge or Eurogamer or some place gave Killzone 2 a 7/10 or something and then some site released an editorial to the effect of saying it was the result of bias, and how the magazine was unprofessional, and how giving the game a 7/10 was somehow worse than the holocaust? Do you remember how silly that editorial was?

Please don't be the Wii equivelant of that editorial in comment form. It does no favors for yourself, the game, the people who made the game, the system, or the system's owners.

[TheBand1t]

I just figured it out. Seferoth is an asshurt Gamecube fanbaby who is just huffy because it got creamed last gen.

Sorry if your hatred for Sony is so clear cut and transparent, but Sony games ain't crap and Gamepro ain't biased. Wipe your tears and be happy HVS is attempting to give you some hardcore games and that this is a good first try for them

Killzone 1 sucked yet Killzone 2 is one of the best console shooters available. The Conduit 2 could be the Wii's big shooter.

[solidjun5]

The irony is hilarious to me. Like the bandit alluded to, HVS made a solid first effort and you should be happy with that. The graphics looks superb for a wii game. Just because this review isn't what you expected, you're still going to buy it. So buy it and LIKE IT! So will you STFU and stop acting like SONY is going to prevent companies from games on the system. I'm getting the game and I don't care what gamepro says (I usually like reading the substance of reviews anyway). If you, you butthurt nintendo fanboy, is so pissy about this review, just read the IGN review over and over again.

Anyway, I'm getting this game and I hope tons of wii owners gets it too. The controls look solid (no pun intended) and the fact i can customize it so I can be comfortable with it is a great thing.

[TheDeadMetalhead]

You're calling Sony fanboyism over a review of a WII game, and yet you have an avatar that tries to stereotype PS3 owners as babies.

[cardgenius]

Gamepro is a joke. Everybody knows this. I mean, they gave Godfather II a perfect 5/5. Same with Ninja Blade and other games that were pretty bad. The forums are a free for all. You can say and do whatever you want. If you want to see TRUE fanboys, check them out. But, they must have a loyal fan base since their magazine is still going.

[gameplayingfool]

I'm not surprised.

[knox]

this is one of the worst wii reviews ive ever read. the stupid reviewer ADMITS he didnt even play multiplayer.real smart.

[Gue1]

and 10 people approved this. all of them probably blind. lol

[Shaka2K6]

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[ZOMBIEMAN1]

STFU ok 3.5 isn't bad it's a 7 and GamePro ain't pro Sony actually what does this have to do with Sony ? this just shows ppl here are Sony haters if i remember GamePro gave Uncharted around a 4 and said basically the opposite of what sites like IGN said really GamePro ain't baised STFU if there so pro Sony why didn't they give inFAMOUS 5/5 well ? just face it your just pissed that GamePro didn't like The Conduit that much and said it wasn't that extremely awesome Wii title ppl were hoping for and also IMO Metriod Prime 3 Corroption looked way better than The Conduit

[Gue1]

The funny thing is that one guy said that GamePro is pro Sony and then comes another guy saying that GamePro is crap because they rated Ninja Blade (X360 exclusive) with a 5/5.

It's impossible see more stupidity together than in the Gamer Zone right now. =D

In fact GamePro is the only site/magazine that still writes credible reviews in the entire industry... You can even go and make question and they actually respond. Not like IGN that ignores everybody if you aren't an insider. Or other sites that after they write their reviews they are so professional that start to insult their readers calling them fanboys. =)

Or what about Edge magazine? All the best games of the PS3 are rated with a flat 8 while Halo and GeoW are the only 10/10's?

BTW when Gamepro calls the Conduit the best FPS on the Wii is because there aren't many... Metroid is not considered a shooter at all. It is more adventure than anything else and the other FPS like Red Steel are just pure garbage.

[Smacktard]

I don't think anyone cares about the score the game got. Everyone's up in arms over the reviewer being so ignorant and not even playing the full game.

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

well i do feel sites like Edge are a bit fishy but still GamePro is a well known site and i've agreed with some of there reviews and some i'm not but i don't go calling them baised for not agreeing with me and honestly The Conduit never interested me but i did hope for the best for the developers after seeing there interviews and seeing how there working hard at the game but i still don't believe The Conduit being the best looking Wii game Metriod Prime 3 Corroption has that title i think ppl just got really worked up about all the hype surrounding The Conduit and can't face reality and that's that GamePro just doesn't like The Conduit that much

[Erotic Sheep]

The quality of this review goes hand in hand with the N4G title, great REIVEW rofl! XD

[Smacktard]

Oh god, I lol'd.

[phantomexe]

I wasn't trying to be a nintendo fanboy i was just saying the truth. gamepro is a bad site for reviews.I use to get the mag and loved it but as of the last 4 or 5 years give or take they are biased.You guys remember that guy they fired because he refused to give the review they wanted.The guy went on to work at EGM.This is just my opion but the facts are there to support it.There are still alot of people that enjoy gamepro which is fine but as for myself i'll pass.

[Smacktard]

See, there's a difference between reviewing a game badly because it's bad and reviewing a game badly just to piss people off. This guy's obviously a troll. Personally, I couldn't give a rat's ass how well The Conduit does critically. He is honestly saying that the Conduit's graphics are comparable to that of Goldeneye's? The Conduit has pretty bad art direction, but there's no way anyone could seriously compare its graphics to Goldeneye, unless they're a jaded fanboy. This is just a terrible review.

[Durffen]

Faulty controls?...

[Product]

I thought the same thing. I wonder if they actually had a great amount of play time with the title before scoring it?

[TheDeadMetalhead]

The reiviewer couldn't figure out that you can configure your controls to pretty much ANYTHING you want?

For shame, Gamepro. =/

[Smacktard]

It's a pretty bad review considering:

-The author compared its graphics to Goldeneye (come on, get real now. That's very unprofessional)
-He ragged on its COMPLETELY CUSTOMIZABLE controls
-He never even played online multiplayer, one of its most-touted features.

What ever happened to honesty in gaming journalism these days? It's not an issue of whether the game got a 7/10 or not, that's irrelevant. Just that the review was very poor, the reviewee was very uninformed and biased, and he didn't even play the full game. Huh.

[EvilTwin]

Exactly. His main criticisms are just plain false. The main CONS are:

"Terrible motion controls, uninteresting storyline and unimpressive graphics top the list."

The graphics DO blow away GoldenEye on the N64, and are easily near the top of what we've seen on the Wii.

The controls ARE completely customizable -- if he didn't want motion controls for melee or grenades, he could've changed them.

And you can't complain about not following the storyline if you're skipping the cut scenes.

What a frickin' joke of a review.

[Lou-Cipher]

The problem Nintendo will always have is that you just cant play a hardcore game with a casual controller.

Lair was a decent game, but it absolutely failed because you were forced to use motion control instead of using an actual controller.

If I want exercise I will go to the gym, and if i want to play video games i will sit my lazy a$$ down so i can actually enjoy it.

There is no such thing as a good hardcore game, if you have to wave your arms in the air to play it.

If God of War III/Uncharted 2/Killzone2 had nothing but motion controls, Those games would not be fun at all for me to play.(thank god they don't)

[Shoko]

Actually, a patch came out for Lair that allowed you to use regular controls..........and it still sucks. Motion controls don't suck.........the developers do.

[n4f]

anybody trust this review is like the reviewer himself.
a flamer, a troll, everything except gamer.
heck even a ''mature'' fanboy here on n4g can see that the gfx do blow away goldeneye
customizable control are in the cons?
............

[Quadrix]

This has to be the most biased review I've ever seen in my life. Epic fail.

[ico92]

the guy said he's keyboard and mouse guy what does that say.......he's a pc fan try reading the review before you start calling websites sony fanboy's it was an honest review and besides ONM uk gave the conduit a 78/100 and they complained about the exacts same stuff so GTFO

[Seferoth75]

I think the one needing to GTFO is the moron that takes one review and acts like its proof for 2 years worth of bias. Take your ignorance somewhere else dumb ass. You obviously cant even comprehend whats being said since you think that BS excuse of your justifies their posting false information constantly and purposely misleading consumers with lies...

HEy its ok though.. That one guy plays the PC so its ok for Gamepro to to be bias... What a complete idiot.

[ngg12345]

When the 2nd review from the embargo is a 3.5/5 is any indication of quality it should be scary. I mean this game looks like there is going to be some 3/10 bombs dropped on you guys. When all sadi is done and the game gets a 6/10 gamerankings/metacritic score. You guys will find out that gamepro was being nice rather than cruel towards this game. Gamepro even gave lair a 3.75/5.

[SinnedNogara]

Did you read the review or are you bias like Gaidrius or TheMart at Xboxkings??

[ps3sux]

i see most posts in here are from sony droids....get lost again? all i can say to the droids is this- get ready, sony's wii rip off will be out next year so then you can quit trolling every other console's news, and you guys will have your own "waggle stick"
sony= trying to keep up with the jonses' as they say.............

[ZOMBIEMAN1]

ohh wait i said Sony and didn't insult it that's why and you didn't read what i said i suggest you read it your IQ will rise from 0 to 2

[TheMART]

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Perfect example of a horrible review.

EDIT: http://www.gamepro.com/game...

WTF!? They give the conduit a 3.5 and say that it just might be the Wii's best fps.....gamepro blows."

Exactly. It perfectly shows that a supercharged gamecube can't hold up with todays standards and expectations. If this is the best around, imagine how sad the rest of them is. Not only that, it simply proves that the Wii is destined to be the ultimate shiatware machine this gen.

Just get over it. If you want real great FPS, if you want great graphics and no wannabee "the Wii can do 360/PS3 graphics crap talk", get a 360 and/or a PS3. End of discussion. The Wiimote is the only thing were the Wii is selling on. To morons that like to wave around like a person that has extreme problems controlling their movements.

[lokiroo420]

So natal is a failure also then, good point!

[ChickeyCantor]

" It perfectly shows that a supercharged Gamecube can't hold up with todays standards"

Mart are you retarded? really cause if you actually did read the review it looks like...and everyone who did read it knows it, he didn't even play the full game.
Whines about controls, while in fact he could have swapped buttons, but didn't.

This review is total crap and you are just going for it to bash the Wii.
Do you have a brain mart? If so turn it on cause you just sound really stupid right now.

" To morons that like to wave around like a person that has extreme problems controlling their movements."
O yeah sure good going mart, this made you sound so intelligent...

[TheMART]

Average score on Metacritic ATM:

7.9 out of 10

Nuff said.

[ChickeyCantor]

nuf said?
O, you are the type who believes ratings are a big part of your gaming experience.
How sad.

[ps3sux]

that title belongs to sony's waggle stick, since natal doesn't use any controllers. epic fail on your part.

zombieman1- i think you may need to learn how to read, did my original post say "zombiman1?" maybe your iq may go up from 1 to 1.5, you illiterate sob

[wiizy]

not a bad score...not sure what sony and 360 owners are complaining about.. all they do is play average shooters all day.

[wiizy]

games is great... if you play halo all day and all the other average sony shooters..you will not like it much..

[TheMART]

Rectification: good games are fun.

Wii - 53 games on or over 8 out of 10
PS3 - 106 games on or over 8 out of 10
360 - 145 games on or over 8 out of 10

The Wii just overall sells shiatware. FPS or any other genre. Don't make it if the 360 or PS3 doesn't have other games, more then enough. There is more then enough in very different genres on the 360/PS3. The Wii, not so much. Or you must like mindless dumb minigames so much.

[SinnedNogara]

The Wii still has good games right?? And most of those PS3/360 games are probably multiplatform. Most 360 games are on the PC anyway.

PS, you hate the Wii right.

[TheMART]

Yes, the Wii has some good games Sad though most is made up by the rehashed Mario, Zelda, Metroid Prime, Super Smash Bros., RE4, Pikmin stuff. Like Punch-Out also about the same game as 20 years back. And from that even more spinoff in countless more Mario stuff like Paper Mario you name it...

The saddest part is that the most interesting and new games aren't bought. They score about an 8 out of 10, but Madworld and House of the Death: Overkill are a few that are fun on the system.

Overall though, the Wii has no games for games. It does have an endless pile of shiatware for the nongamer though.

[Product]

Honestly this review (not even the score which i care less about) is just not a great review in general. He starts by complaining about the Wii in general, has not even played the multiplayer, and gripes about the controls which are highly customizable.

I can take a bad review but when it is by someone who obviously does not want to play the game in the first place, doesn't sit well with me.

They should redo the review honestly with someone who has done the multiplayer, and has done a good job of exploring the game. If the review is still just as bad than so be it.

[Gr81]

But in all honesty, who gives a damn about any of these reviews? After the generous 10's being given out for games like GTAIV I stopped caring for many review sites and began trusting my own judgement.

I'd reccomend more people do this. Don't buy into the hype and fanboy bs. I miss the good old days where review scores were largely ignored. Some folks seem pist that Wii games aren't reviewed with as much enthusiasm or aren't as hype driven, I think this is a good thing. Word of mouth is the best marketing available.

As far as I'm concerned, read reader reviews and compare the reader reviews to the gamepro's and IGN's out there/ And more importantly, decide for yourself if the game is good or not.

But yeah, this reviewer didn't do a good job on this one. Not because of the score as you said, but the general core of this guys review is just off.

[mshope10]

man i love you guys proving my point i just said in the ign review of the conduit that all the sony and ms fans will come and trash talk this game even though its a hardcore game but sense its for wii they will do it anyway!and it has nothing to do with there systems yet they still post on wii storys we don't post on your story so get a life and if you don't like wii or this game don't worry about it! cause it has nothing to do with your systems!!!!and beside this review it has been getting 8 and above which is good!you didn't see us saying killzone2 sucked just cause edge gave it a 7 out of 10!one dumb website who hates nintendo doesn't mean shxt!!!!

[ambientFLIER]

Is it just me, or are some of the graphic effects overused? The bullets seem more like little yellow rockets than actual bullets when they fire.

It almost seems like the developers threw in every single possible effect, no matter if the situation called for it or not. Yes, I get it, the Wii can look good, but that doesn't mean that EVERYTHING needs its own lighting or particle effects.

[Shoko]

I finally read the review and have come to a conclusion - total BS.

1. He said that HE DIDN'T PLAY THE MULTIPLAYER!! So basically, HE PLAYED HALF THE GAME!

2. He complained about throwing grenades with the Nunchuck and melee with the WiiRemote.............although you can move those options to a button.

3) He said the graphics don't blow away Goldeneye..............serious ly?

I just don't see how you guys could take this person seriously.

[Shoko]

THIS GUY DIDNT EVEN PLAY THE FULL GAME

He admitted that he didn't play the multiplayer.............so he played HALF THE GAME! That's ridiculous! How can give give the game a fair review without playing anything?

[ChickeyCantor]

Don't worry, people on that website call him off as a joke.

[Double Toasted]

...is on CRACK. He actually said the game barely surpasses GoldenEye in terms of GRAPHICS, that sh!t is f@cking HILARIOUS and SAD at the same time. Seriously, anyone who defends what this reviewer wrote, should find the nearest 100 ft leap and do the world a favor...I'm joking, but again...WTF is going on?

[N4g_null]

This is why mediacrate sucks it is based on retards like this.

Seriously some thing needs to be done about this but you know what I won't even worry about it I like many others are still buying this game. Since the Wii isn't worthy of being reviewed why not just stop carrying the console. I mean do you compare handhelds to consoles, no because of the specs.

The editor does not see he is actually pushing away future readers and soon he may wonder why no one is subscribing to their mag.most teens and younger are the reason why halo made it big and lots of those guys do not have HD console money.

[ChickeyCantor]

3.5/5?
Really now and how will this affect my gaming experience?
Why are people so bothered by ratings?

IGN said it feels like a Perfect Dark, THAT ALONE tells me this game is going to be fun.

Screw the ratings, they are just "opinions" converted into a float.
NONSENSICAL BS.

[Brasi82]

Worst review I have ever read. It is not really a review at all its about how the Wii doesn't have the graphical capabilities to please people whom only care about graphics. At the end it says "...unimpressive graphic top the list." Every other review I have read or watched about the game say that it is amazing what High Voltage Software did with the limited capabilities of the Wii. The person in this review doesn't realize that each system has is "own" grading system. You don't look back at Halo 3 and say, "Well it doesn't look as good as Killzone 2 so it only gets a 3/5 stars." No, that's completely preposterous. You might as well say that Portable games should be just as good as PC or console games. All and all I have the game pre-ordered and will be picking it up tomorrow and go through the Single player mode and then switch it over to WiFi and have some major fun. Killzone 2 multi-player got old for me in about a month. Call of Duty: World At War for Wii however is fun to this day and I still game it up online. In my honest opinion Motion Control > Analog control.

[ChickeyCantor]

" I have read or watched about the game say that it is amazing what High Voltage Software did with the limited capabilities of the Wii. "

Really though, what have developers done to show off what the Wii can do? This is not an achievement of something running on limited power, this is what the Wii was able to do from the beginning. No freaking developer took the time to understand the shader structure.

Didn't ATI say "Tip of the iceberg"? Way back in 2006?
And now HVS is saying the conduit is just the "tip of the iceberg" lol.