The Wii "perfect for mature action games"

NintendoDpad:
"Dead Space Extraction's story designer John Calhoun couldn't help but share why the Wii is a great platform for games such as Dead Space. After praising the Wii for it's controls and "how much fun" they are in Extraction, John said something sales numbers have a hard time backing."

[Product]

Even though Madworld and House of the Dead didn't do fantastic in sales i have a feeling Dead Space and Resident Evil will.

[gaffyh]

I think Resident Evil may do well, but Dead Space, I dunno. Resi name is more known, but then again let's see what the Conduit does first.

[Product]

I'll agree Resident Evil does have th best chance but I have faith Dead Space might surprise.

[Lifendz]

and it's audience can safely be said to be the 360/PS3 crowd. Resident Evil 4 on Gamecube is heralded by many as the best Resident Evil ever. I can't help but think Wii owners choosing between the two will opt for Resident Evil.

[Seferoth75]

Dead Space crowd on PS3/360? Maybe the casual crowd but the true hardcore fans have it for the PC for the best features and graphics..

[Anon1974]

?

[SinnedNogara]

Dead Space has no history of success because the game in the Dead Space franchise for Wii isn't out yet!!! DUH!!!!

[DragonWarrior_4]

I agree with what he said, but I dont think on rails shooters are the best the wii has to offer. Dead Space on the ps3 and xbox 360 were freaking awesome, way better then any on rails shooter could ever be. However, with Wii motion plus, games like a new Zelda with 1:1 motion control is the next step in the evolution in gaming and I cant wait to get my hands on any other game that supports the Wii motion plus in a ways that use the Wii motion plus to its potential.

[Product]

Agreed, I personally can't wait till Red Steel 2, but i do love rail shooters and both Dead Space and Resident Evil fit the bill for me personally. I could see how people wouldn't like them though. Acquired taste.

[robotnik]

How comes its full of kids games and casual crap? Oh nevermind. It's Nintendopad, a swarm of angry nintendrones plague that site.

[SinnedNogara]

Because first-parties can't make countless hardcore games and most third-parties just release nothing but crapware.

[Eiffel]

No, just no. I'll go with the exception of Dead Space. But no. The wii is not perfect for mature titles. Its mature userbase may as well be three people. If its not made by Nintendo it never does really all that well. Third party developers are really starting to make me wonder what acid they're tripping on.

[jay2]

Sorry but......... NO WAY. the Wii's for 2 year olds or a first console.

[ChickeyCantor]

". the Wii's for 2 year olds"

O yeah sure that makes sense.

[TheMART]

Yes in a last gen jacket it is, PS2/XBOX 1 graphics, physics etc.

Sorry Nintendo, gamers moved on to the 360 and PS3 for real mature games. This is just trying to sell 'mature games' to a casual audience. Last gen shiat rehashed I'd say. And even with some creativity it doesn't sell. Look at Madworld!

And no, Call of Duty isn't a hardcare game on the Wii. It only sells on the name, so please nintendo fans, don't come with COD sales again.

For real gamers the Wii is dead.

[SinnedNogara]

Don't blame Nintendo or their first parties. After all, they can only make so many great games. Blame the third parties.

MadWorld only appeals to a small audience of Wii owners.

Nintendo didn't go casual, they went mainstream.

[TheMART]

Yes, that small % of Wii owners that bought Madworld, like myself, are the ones that are playing real games. Mainstream, casual gamers, nongamers, whatever you like to name them. I say: lazy mums, fat sisters, 5 year olds, granny's and morons overall that buy Wiifit shiat.

[Oztheboss]

I strongly disagree with Mr. Calhoun.

He's off his tits.

[DYD]

He is clearly just trying to convince himself.

Poor man can't even admit the truth that Wii is just not cut out for mature games.

[ChickeyCantor]

Actually it is,
The problem is not the content but the promotion of a game.
It just needs strong marketing.

[Seferoth75]

To me deluded is the person bringing up a subject they obviously know little about. I can name off more million selling mature titles than you can failures but please continue to spout the same BS for years to come. It doesnt hurt the Wii and jsut makes you look like an idiot.

[Anon1974]

It's not very hard to figure out how mature games are selling on the Wii. Out of the 500 games out there on the Wii, only 17 M rated games have been released.
Over 1 million sold: Resident Evil 4, RE: Umbrella Chronicles, COD: WAW, House of the Dead 1,2,3 pack

Outright utter flops: Mad World, No More Heroes, House of the dead: Overkill, Mortal Kombat: Arm, Scarface, Target Terror, Tenchu, Dead Rising, Onechanbara, Obscure, Brothers in Arms, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Farcry.

So let's see. That's 4 Mature games that did over 1 million, 13 that didn't even come close.

You know what, it's nice that there are some mature rated games available on the Wii - but clearly Nintendo knows who butters their bread, and there's nothing wrong with that. No sense in denying that fact. There's nothing wrong with having a target audience.

[ChickeyCantor]

" No More Heroes"

Yeah thats why they held a party because of its success?

"You know what, it's nice that there are some mature rated games available on the Wii - but clearly Nintendo knows who butters their bread,"
Yar its Nintendo who is making these games right?
Do people even go outside the Nintendo Scope? Last time i checked games were also made by Third party developers.

[MegaPowa]

Who cares worry about your own opinion of the game and buy it for your self stop depending on sales to determine if its a success

[Anon1974]

But Nintendo still says which games see the light of day on their system and which don't.

Sales don't make a game, everybody knows that. Seferoth75 merely threw out a challenge and I responded, because I knew for a fact that he was wrong. I have no problem with gamers voicing opinions different from my own, but I take issue when someone outright lies to either make his console look better or make other consoles look worse. It just muddies the waters for gamers who haven't made the great leap into this gen yet.

[DragonWarrior_4]

Okay, for all of you new comers to gaming, I just want to inform you that Nintendo are the ones that first supported hardcore games. Ever heard of Metal Gear, Castlevania, Mario Bros, Final Fantasy, Time Lord, Battle of Olympus, Zelda, Blaster Master? I could go on to name Hundreds more but whats the point? You guys obviously think that shooters are the only thing in this world that can be hardcore. I think your all mistaken by what hardcore and core audiences actually are. Core players= plays specific games all the time(Halo, COD, ect ect). Hardcore gamers = plays tons of different genres all the time(rpg's, last gen games, racers, downloadable games, ect ect, not just shooters). Have a good day core audience.

OH and btw. Mario is the king of hardcore. Sure there isn't any blood but name one other character that has his own racer, golf, baseball, tennis, rpg, and platform games? He was even on one of the most popular hardcore games of all time. Ever heard of Punch out? Do you guys really think your hardcore gamers? Really?

[Eiffel]

Do you really think just because what happened in the 80's an so on really has the same impact it would on the wii? Nintendo went casual and it's hardly hardcore anymore. They appeal to non-gamers/new gamers/ classic Nintendo supporters.

Sure they have a small amount of what you may consider hardcore but the reality is they have all but dropped that as one of their key focuses. They don't care. Its all about casual now.

I stopped supporting Nintendo after the Gamecube and that was basically being charitable.

[ChickeyCantor]

" Nintendo went casual and it's hardly hardcore anymore."

No, they went mainstream. All 3 need to go mainstream.
People should really stop with the hardcore BS.
Cause its the "hardcore" crowd crying and b/tching about the Wii, while in fact if you really are "hardcore" you would just play games no matter what kind and STFU and enjoy it.

~Hardcore is not defined by a game, Its defined by the player depending on how much time and effort he or she puts in a game.

" Sure they have a small amount of what you may consider hardcore but the reality is they have all but dropped that as one of their key focuses. They don't care. Its all about casual now. "

It always have been about the "casuals", for F sake wake up.
Every generation they tried to bring a in an interface that would help people play. Its just not an easy task to find a way to crack into this "Casual" crowd. If anyone cries they don't care about the "hardcore gamer" ( o and trust me they never did give a F, they are a company not a passionated friend) then they should look up their history its FULL of "Casual" Nonsense.

[Nihilism]

for me, the first dead space was the only flawless pc game i've ever bought....no need for a patch...no glitches, no bugs, no ctd, and i can't wait for dead space 2, it's above crysis 2 on my list, dead space extraction makes me wish i hadn;t traded in my wii...that and pokemon revolution *blushes*

[DragonWarrior_4]

"Nintendo went casual and it's hardly hardcore anymore. They appeal to non-gamers/new gamers/ classic Nintendo supporters." says the noob that just started playing video games this gen. Im sorry but anything that you have to say about nintendo is irrelevant until you acknowledge the fact that Mario, zelda, and Metroid are some of the best hardcore titles ever created. Anyone who says different is just a core gamer and doesn't have enough credibility to talk about hardcore games like they actually are hardcore gamers. Good day sir. I said good day!

[ChickeyCantor]

Saying you should acknowledge that is over the top.
But what people can't denie is that their games like those you mentioned are still delivered with quality. Wether they are easier or not.

[wiggles]

While those titles are indeed some of the greatest ever created they are having no effect on this generation. The wii is not hardcore anymore because of games like Wii fit and Wii music and things of that nature. While Nintendo did deserve respect in the 80's and 90's, it lost it to the hardcore crowd because there are way to many generic/mini-game themed games out for the platform that give it that childish feel. It doesn't matter that no Wii games have over the top gore, it's the fact that a lot (not all) of them are geared to being family games.

[ChickeyCantor]

" The wii is not hardcore anymore because of games like Wii fit and Wii music and things of that nature."

After that big library PS2 is not "hardcore" after singstar and Buzz and and the eye-toy games that included fitness( yeah damn right PS2 did it too)other crap games coming from third party developers?

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WTF is wrong with this place?
That wouldnt make sense now would it?

"It doesn't matter that no Wii games have over the top gore, it's the fact that a lot (not all) of them are geared to being family games."

Here is the sad part, you are swayed by what others are playing.
Instead of just focussing on the games you would like, you actually feel that your opinion must be affected by what others are playing.
Wii was never casual nor hardcore just like the other 2, its a damn gaming device and whats so great about these console? They offer what we gamers want, wether you like killzone 2 or Tetris it doesn't mean sh/t.
The point is that we enjoy games, no matter what kind and for that there is no reason to put a label such as "hardcore" or "casual" on it just because it doesn't fit to YOUR likings.
Cause if we go by that logic i could call the PS3 Casual since it offers media stuff and its being promoted as a B-ray player...which are meant to be MAINSTREAM ( see not casual, MAINSTREAM is the word, and nothing wrong with going MAINSTREAM)

I said it before, a "casual" gamer getting 1000 lines in tetris is more hardcore than a match of killzone or gears of war( Again i said A match)

AND FYI, im not bashing the PS3, i have one and i really like it.

[madpuppy]

Mature games on the Wii are castrated by it's limitations, dead space for example went from a 3rd person sandbox to an on rails shooter because of how weak it is.
Or that black, white and red Madworld, blah,
don't make me laugh.

mature games on the Wii, hey whatever lets you sleep at night.

[ChickeyCantor]

O yeah sure, and yet last gen was able to do it? But Wii is weak?
Dude GTFO?

"Or that black, white and red Madworld, blah,
don't make me laugh. "

Its called an Art-style

GTFO at sonic boom speed plox?

[SinnedNogara]

These games are the way they are because of the DEVELOPERS. EA could have just ported Dead Space to the Wii. It's not like the system is unable to make good action games (Metroid, Resident Evil 4, and the new Silent Hill: Shattered Memories).

You can put nearly any genre onto any system you want. That is FACT.

Black, white, and red is MadWorld's ART-STYLE. They did that to emphasize the violence. Duh!!!

[madpuppy]

blah...

[madpuppy]

compare the 360/ps3 to the Wii version of Ghostbusters, holy crap, it is a joke!!!

[lizard81288]

sadly i think its true for "hardcore" gamers, its either graphics or FPS. sure graphic are nice, but what about the gameplay? sigh, i bet if ET was made on the ps360 it would be praised for its awesome graphics and nobody would care about the gameplay.

it seems more mature games are picking up in speed, and sell steadily, might not sell zillions on the wii, but the sales keep going up.

in fact, i don't know which game to get, dead space wii, resident evil dark side chronicles,The Conduit,or silent hill. they all look good.

i'm sure if the wii was use right, and not for minigames, it could be a good place for M rated games, the wiimote could act like a PC kind of for shooters and what not. although i foresee these type of games(minigames) coming to the 360 soon too.

[madpuppy]

"what about gameplay" and "Wii games are "Fun"" Like all the games that come out for the 360 and PS3 are boring graphic tech demos and bland FPS. do you people actually believe that?
sure ball attached to a cup is fun for a while but I would rather go jet skiing or solo 1 racing.

[danthaman15]

It amazes me at how DESPERATE people are to turn every bit of news on this site into a flame war.

[wiizy]

of course wii works for mature gaming look at the controls in the conduit..just perfect.. and seing how hard sony and microsoft are working to try and equal the wii or outdo it shows that their get the message even if they fanboys doesnt..

[madpuppy]

and a gimmicky control scheme selling like crazy to a cross section of the population that would never have otherwise bought a console game machine in the first place. It doesn't rely on games to sell itself for god sakes! most people are happy with Wii-sports and the reason Wii-play is so popular is that the game comes free with the controller.

Sure Sony and MS would love to be able to grab a piece of that large market that Nintendo tapped. the Idea of not having to rely on great games to sell your product is easy money.

[felidae]

thank you for giving us a heads up of what's hot and what's not!

really, thank you! without you we would all be facked!