Lens of Truth: Transformers - Revenge of the Fallen Comparison (720p)

Lens of Truth writes, "Transformer: Revenge of the Fallen was developed by the guys at Luxoflux and is due to hit both systems on June 23rd - the same day the film rocks the theaters. After the Ghostbusters fiasco last week we weren't sure what to expect with this movie based Head2Head. We just hoped that this time around someone didn't drop the ball like Terminal Reality did, but incredibly Luxoflux didn't."

[Sea_Man]

I'm on the fence about getting this game but if I was I would get it for the PS3. When's this come out??

[Kushan]

I've yet to see a 360 fanboy say that. But then again, I stay away from the OpenZone. Maybe that's where you meant to post that?

[el zorro]

Too bad the game looks like crap on both consoles.

[Jaces]

It wasn't a matter of whether they said it or not, it's how they summed the comparison up.

They acted like what I posted above....which is now deleted, oh well. Guess I went a lil overboard.

[ThanatosDMC]

Is this game any good?

[Fishy Fingers]

So did they decide to use equal builds this time?

Guys watched the movie yet? I was a little disappointed, preferred the first, good action, bizarre story.

[Sea_Man]

Are you serious or did you not follow the Ghostbusters story?

[Fishy Fingers]

Guess i didnt follow it, last I heard they used different builds for each system. Am I incorrect? Sorry I tend to play rather than argue.

@ TheHater, hope you enjoy it. It's a good film all in all, little to long, little to much comedy but great action and fantastic CGI. Plus Megan Fox ;)

[TheHater]

I am going to watch the new movie Wednesday. Cannot wait to see it.

[Sea_Man]

I agree but wow were they right. If you want take a look at the links.

http://www.joystiq.com/2009...

http://kotaku.com/5294116/d...

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.gamezine.co.uk/n...

But basically they were freaking right, it was crazy!

EDIT:@TheHater

Me too I can't wait! @Fishy Fingers: how did you get to see it early?

[Fishy Fingers]

Released here (UK) last Friday. We got something early for once :)

Oh yeah and I know there were distinct differences between versions, that much has been mentioned in he majority of threads I've clicked on over the last few days. Ghostbusters related or not.

[jaidek]

man, that's awesome that you guys got the movie first. I can't wait for this film. Gonna be a blast!

[jerethdagryphon]

most of it work within accepted canon and make intrnal sense
as to the game

same thinge as in all good ports,
ps3= red tinge softer/ blurred textures cutscenes seemed to has a greese filter of ther the camera

360 blue tinge sharper textures no greese filter but harsher geometry

he reson it game out bettr was the actors had limited say in what happened this time and the guy ho plays sam made osme sugestions i gather still good work

[Sea_Man]

Maybe Terminal Reality should take notes here.

[el zorro]

You mean Terminal Reality along with about 90% or all other multiplatform developers out there? Sadly, it isn't just Terminal Reality having problems on the PS3.

Terminal Reality's work was particularly bad on the PS3, but it is obvious a majority of developers are having problems on the PS3 getting their PS3 versions up to the quality of their 360 versions.

Recent games that I have looked at that have looked better on the 360 are:
Chronicles of Riddick AoDA
Up
Red Faction
FEAR 2
FUEL
Wolverine (360 version has better framerate and less screentearing)

We have seen some improvement, but PS3 versions still tend to be inferior to 360 versions in most of the multiplatform games that I have looked at.

[Baron79]

from the article:

"Hats off to Luxofluxor porting Transformers across platforms flawlessly".

I agree, nice to see these two turn out the same.

[jaidek]

yeah, while it may not be the most technical or even a great game, it is nice to see them at least keep the quality the same on both platforms. I was thinking this game was going to be a disaster.

[evildeli]

Even though the game is boring at least it's perfect port.

[TheMART]

Strange, looking at the pictures, the 360 version has the upper hand.

Check the first scroll over picture, the PS3 version has no AA on the vertical lines, the 360 does.

Everything just seems a tad sharper, look at the 3rd scroll over picture, that one makes it clear really.

[el zorro]

I thought the 360 version looked a little sharper and clearer in the screenshots, but the difference is pretty small. I know from experience, however, that you don't really notice most of the differences in screenshots. You notice most of the differences when you actually have the games running on your tv.

[rucky]

Listen to yourself mart you're trying too hard. Do you realize how stupid you sound?

[ultimolu]

It looks the same Mart.

Shutup.

[talltony]

That's because your wearing your fanboy goggles.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

Take a long look at the first and second picture and you would realise something.

The PS3 screen on top has most of the light reflecting of its side whereas the second image has most of the light reflecting on the right hand side (xbox360).

Its the nature of the screen shot which dedicates which looks more brighter and reflective or else BOTH are identical.

However the Xbox360 version has a blue tint (shine) whereas the PS3 version has a silver tint

[air1]

ULTIMAT R the 60 year old virgin

look at pic 4 and 6 especially pic 6

[Man_of_the_year]

OK i have looked at the screen shots and yes the colour in screen 6 looks better on the 360. Its a nice sharp Blue. But really i was really really really close to the screen to try and notice anything. Yes in pic 3 it does look ever so slighty sharper on the 360. But honestly these games are the same. However neither one of these games pushes either the 360 or PS3 to anything near what they are capable of doing. This game is a breeze for the PS3 to handle, so ofcourse it will look just as good as the 360 version.

My conclusion - both games look the same

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Lame game is still lame.

Who really expects movie games to be good anymore? Last "good" movie game was Spider Man 2.

And that was a long time ago.

Not much of a feat getting something like transformers to look the same. Still good to see that some devs know what they're doing mostly.

[really duh]

Almost the same the PS3 version has slightly more jaggies and is missing some detail and slightly fuzzier.

The 2nd and the 6th box really show what I'm talking about

[xabmol]

Huh, Why dis.

[really duh]

Hmmm. I got disagrees you can clearly see the difference in box 2 and 6

looks like Pirate Thom didn't like what I said and used his *xabmol* account to call me out so he could keep all 10 of his bubbles.

[LittleBigSackBoy]

if they were the same person why have they got 2 different PSNs with a decent amout of trophies on each?

[Chaos Striker]

If you read the article, the author says the lack of AA is the same. As for the fuzziness, as far as I can tell, it can be corrected by adjusting the gamma correction. So really, there are no differences.

[TheBand1t]

Why Dis is a comedian I'm afraid.

[really duh]

The 360 version looks slightly better because its clearer and has graphical effects on the transformer missing in the PS3 version.

Funny you say read it when I did. I posted my opinion and even told people to look at BOX 2 and BOX 6.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...
Personally attacking me won't change that grow up.

In box 6 you can see it more with the arm and the tire.

Speaking of reading what they said *if you really wan't to make it seem like thats what I should base my opinion on* here is the final words on it.

" Tie: This is a prime (Optimus?) example of what to do as a next-gen developer. Hats off to Luxoflux for porting Transformers across platforms flawlessly. Not only did both versions look almost identical in color and texture quality, Luxoflux managed to do it without any mandatory install."

I hope you understand what he said. The devil is in the details.

[Chaos Striker]

So you do agree that AA is a problem on both, contrary to your previous statement :P As for the bluriness, I highly suspect that it could be the result of Quincunx AA, which causes a blur effect. Needless to say, I really do not know why you would want to just stand there and examine each and every detail of the game rather than play it. But, of course, that is just me, I don't know about you.

**"almost" being the fact that the difference are negligible IMO. Unless you want to compare the games on TV side by side, I highly doubt you will detect the differences. Of course you won't do that, given that it costs $120 to do so. That being said, stop nagging about imperfections and buy the damn game for the 360 if you care about these differences so much. But, then again, I highly doubt you will buy the game eh?

[bjornbear]

Wow!! You should go work for Lens of Truth!! You're better at spotting these things than they are =O!! Props to you..../s

Seriously, its a tie, and a damn good one =)

[MetalGearBear]

movie is great.
video game base on movie sux!!!!!!

[GEESE]

That this is a load of movie license sh1t. As usual, and whoever buys this, deserves everything they get.

[kewlkat007]

can you make out the clock in the 3rd picture on the TOP left?

You can clearly see that it is a clock on the top in the 360 version...the PS3 looks scribbled

Again, I buy most multiplats on my 360. There is a reason why, though I hardly buy movie games..

[caladbolg777]

I don't really purchase many multiplats at all anymore, and if I do, I just buy them for PC (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Left4Dead, Orange Box, hell... even Viva Pinata).

[genesis013185]

Finally a developer has made a port that look virtually identical on both the PS3 and the 360. Wow! Anyways I wanted to pitch in on the couple of people sayin that the 360 version is sharper. Before I begin let me say that I have both systems, if you want me to prove it just ask and I will. Anyways I have been doing my own comparing with the systems I have and to be honest there are a few games that look better on the PS3. When I say look better i'm talking about sharpness of the game and detail. Now I will give the 360 this... it kicks the PS3's ass in the shadowing department. It's amazing. For anyone who has both system I tell them this. Download the new NCAA Football demo for both systems and I guarantee you'll notice what i'm talking about. I'm having a hard time tryin to figure out which system I want to get it on. I have two options, do I want to go for better shadowing or sharpness and detail. Check it out and tell me what you think.

[evildeli]

No one ever give the Spider-man 2 game the recognition it deserves. Plus one bubble for that!

[air1]

they look the same but the lighting is a bit better on the 360, im just saying what i saw..

[Figboy]

and truth told, it looks mediocre on BOTH platforms.

as for the game, the single player is decent, but the multi-player is surprisingly enjoyable.

not worth your $60 however. i'll be posting a review of the game on my site Wednesday.

it was a VERY fun project to work on, however, the guys at Luxo are pretty cool, and they did everything they could to make the game good, despite Activision being douches to them the entire dev cycle. another 6 to 12 months, and this game could have been EPIC.

it's a shame when a developer can't make a good game because the company writing the check doesn't want to invest in making it a quality gaming experience.

my loathing for Activision grows every day.

and Lens of "Truth" is getting on my nerves...

[Tempjf]

What's the matter truth hurts. Oh yeah don't blame it on Activision because you can't write code. Maybe the game sucks cause you and your coding buddies got a 5th grade education.

And bug testing doesn't count as "working" on a game.

[MiloGarret]

^ = Soon to be involved in a high school shooting.

[jaidek]

Congrats on the shipped game! It is a shame when developers just want to get a game out for the sake of a game. Transformers could be such an awesome IP for a AAA game. Too bad they always have to tie them into the movies.

I took a look at your deviant art page, did you do concept work for Transformers?

Not sure why the Lens of Truth is on your nerves. They gave you guys a compliment on the development of the game. Not to mention it sounds like they take your stance on the issues in today's game development. It all comes down to either lazy developers or publishers forcing corners to be cut due to budgets. Just glad to see this game is consistent across both platforms.

Anyway, congrats again!

[Figboy]

i love when people comment on something they know absolutely NOTHING about.

so, you were at work with me, and know that it wasn't for a fact, Activision stymieing game development.

also, Hasbro was causing trouble, because they didn't want the game to be good because they feared it would interfere with their toy sales. they wouldn't even allow us to use certain transformer names, so we had to use lame ass made up names for the multi-player.

as for testing a game. you again, have no idea the roles that testers play in the overall quality of the game.

believe me, developers tend to keep their noses to the grindstone, working on code, code, code all day long, and they hardly EVER get a chance to actually PLAY the game they are working on, so it's hard for them to get a sense of what they are actually accomplishing.

as a Production Tester, we work with the developers, fine-tuning things like balance, and even suggesting weapons and features to include in the game if it's early enough in development (some of the cool weapons in Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen were shaped according to our input, and tweaked to make them as balanced as possible).

and if you think a publisher like Activision has NO HAND in how a developer proceeds with making a game, you are truly a young, naive individual.

again, you don't know what you're talking about, but i'll just chalk that up to you being ignorant.

EDIT - to jaidek:

no, i wasn't a concept artist for it, just a Muti-Player Production Tester. pretty much, that involved testing the hell out of the MP component and working with the developers to balance out all of the players and give input on how to improve the functionality of the MP and the maps and what not. it was a great gig, actually. i had a ball, despite some annoying moments and corporate politics.

Lens of Truth annoys me because i don't think they have accurate comparisons, and they honestly aren't informative in any way. screenshots and vid caps are hardly representative of what a game will look like running on your OWN HDTV at home. and zooming into an image 600% isn't going to prove anything other than, yes, images are made up of tiny colored pixels being arranged on a screen in a specific order to give the illusion of an person, place, or thing. these comparisons do nothing but incite flamewars, and multi-platform games just aren't the proper battleground to wage a graphics war on anyway.

but i suppose since the favor is starting to swing in the direction of the Playstation 3 these days in terms of graphical superiority, the goal post has to be moved to multi-platform games now, which tend to look better on the 360 depending on the developer.

[XboxGirl]

Your a quality assurance tester to be precise, which means you have absolutely no experiences developing games. So lets not cloud the issues that you only reported bugs. In that case all the people accepted into the open beta of HALO 3 reporting bugs means we all were part of the HALO 3 team. Great they owe me royalties!!. Now when you said
"Lens of Truth annoys me because i don't think they have accurate comparisons, and they honestly aren't informative in any way. screen shots and vids caps are hardly representative of what a game will look like running on your OWN HDTV at home"

Well if you think about what you said here NUMB NUTS, if the Image of the Xbox360 looks better coming directly from source, odds are what ever shi@_#ty settings you have set on your Vizio, the quality of the superior version will only intensify.

"images are made up of tiny colored pixels being arranged on a screen in a specific order to give the illusion of an person" Good for you.

Nice to see you know what a pixel does, but obviously you have very little experience of what consists of a GAME. Other than that pixel carrying color, there's a whole world of other rendering differences that the Lens of Truth points out between versions. Like screen tearing, normal maps, texture quality, aliasing, frame rate etc... Thank god you were only a quality assurances tester because I wouldn't want someone like you involved with the development process!!

[Grimhammer00]

While I'm the first to say that 90% of movie tie-in games sux donkey ballz...this one looks competent. I watched the live justin.tv video that lens of truth put up.

the bad -
buildings mostly don't crumble under the obvious weight of the robots.
(incidentally the first movie had a similar issue in that I suspect the buildings would've collapsed much quicker. But that's less dramatic isn't it.)

The levels are boxed in by a tron-ish wall. This isn't actually all that bad. Rather than the developer just suddenly stopping you from move forward at an edge of a level, or adding fog that supposed to suggest that you stop and turn around...the developer just lets you know straight up. This isn't GTA with robots after all.

no AA....but I don't know about you - I play my games on a Sony Bravia 52" 720p/1080i LCD with both my PS3 & 360...AA is rarely an issue. Killzone 2 has it and it does look better that titles that don't...but it's no deal breaker by far. First gen games like Ridge Racer 7 had very large AA issues...but games these days that don't have AA....like Infamous I believe, even without....very negligible in my opinion.

Lastly, it lacks a little in the innovation department. But lets be real here...do you want innovation all the time? Don't you have a genre fave gaming that you like to be familiar with? Hack'n slash & shooter are two such genres for me.

The positives -
-Clean frame rate
-decent graphics with much improved animations and transforms.
-many characters
-a leveling up system with a decent amount of upgradeable & unlocks
(I can't stress this enough. If you are a developer and are making ANY game that you want to be played for more than a few hours - PLEASE add an incentive system. Trophies are cool as are achievements...but I want actual game changing unlocks that do something...ideally cool stuff. LOL) Whether the unlocks are cool in this game I don't know. But at least their there.
-each robot including the ones unique to this game have special moves and play differently...catering to individual gamer tastes isn't at all a bad thing!
-MULTIPLAYER...now, this could have easily been ho-hum. But from the hands-on previews I watched....seems decent. Better than decent actually. Remember 8 players....4 vs 4. Now consider that you can play any Autobot or decepticon! Flight or tank it out! Even turrets can be placed by Ironhide.
Not sure about leveling in multiplayer - but I'm pretty sure it has unlocks specific to that mode.
Sure standard deathmatch, capture the energon cube (flag) etc....but still fun!

Now I don't know about whether the multiplayer is a smooth as the singleplayer...the videos suggests that it is.

Anyhow, given from what I watched on the lensoftruth/justin.tv....I'll be getting it. It won't be Killzone or Halo...or what have you...but it looks fun and arcadey enough to pick up whenever.

But this certainly doesn't mean that this game will get anything better than 7/10 from most sites I'm guessing. Just have to know what you like in you games...sometimes fun trumps depth every once in a while. :P

[Tempjf]

Well said man.

I watched it live too and I gotta agree with you. The game looked fun and as mentioned in the article, it's nothing ground breaking in terms of graphics but it looks fun. Not everything needs to look like KZ2 to make it a good game. All that matters is if you have fun playing it and I would have fun playing this.

[cmrbe]

looks better to me. Just saying what i see.

[kaveti6616]

how little ambition do some developers have to say, "hey, we want to use our talents to make a cheap movie game."? If I had half the talent of the guys at luxoflux I would be trying to make an awesome, epic game.

[bjornbear]

Have you guys seen the difference it makes on any game on the PS3? Its INSANE!! It almost makes a leap in quality.

I would like to know, i'd expect them to have them on but some of their comparisons sometimes look as if not...hmmm

[Sea_Man]

On their "about us" page they explain why they can't. From what I understand this feature is only assessable through HDMI and since the PS3 has HDCP (form of copyright protection) they're unable to capture through HDMI. They explain it better on their site.