Kotaku: Talkin' Metal Gear, Rumble and Exclusivity With Hideo Kojima

So Kojima's address at GO3 contained...not much, aside from a casual stroll down memory lane. Straight afterwards, though, Luke Plunkett of Kotaku had a chance to sit down with Mr. Kojima to talk Metal Gear.

The interview concerns the evolution of Metal Gear, how rumble will most likely make it into MGS4, and how the PS3 is the only platform suitable for this fairwell to the series.

[zantetsuken]

He pretty much said himself - "But like I said, MGS4 is aimed for the movie theatre, it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware. It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform".

This should certainly put the damn rumors to rest. DL 50 GB BD FTW.

[techie]

My favorite quotes.

"I want to implement it, rumble, yes", he says. "I'm not thinking about a patch, though".

"The PS3 is like the theatre, it's a little bit high-priced but it has to be high quality as well. The 360 is a DVD, it still needs to be high quality but you need more variations, while the Wii is almost like a TV channel, because every game you have it with your family".

So, Devil May Cry 4, going multiplatform. Thoughts? Comments? "I think it's up to each project, and the individual producer", he says. "If they want to take it multiplatform, they will". I'm going somewhere with this question, and he knows exactly where that is...

"But like I said, MGS4 is aimed for the movie theatre, it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware. It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform", he says.

Why, I ask, do you think this rumour simply refuses to go away? "Because 360 owners want it on 360, obviously", he quips.

No comment

[nix]

why this post hit 1000 degrees. q:

[Neutral Gamer]

I admit this has nothing to do with the game but if you have a look at the fullsize photo of Luke and Hideo on the Kotaku website you have to come to the conclusion that those two are clearly not photogenic. At all.

That picture just cracks me up. I mean was that really the BEST one they took?! Haha.

Still you gotta have a laugh sometime hey! :p

[techie]

lol you gotta laugh at them mirror each others pose. But still they must have got on...there's some amazing stuff that just came out of that interview.

LOL/ well my avatar actually is a South Park recreation of me...so I look like that when you take a picture of me :)

[Neutral Gamer]

Yeah you're right, they must have got on quite well for Hideo to reveal all that information. Looks like the camera gives a false sense of uneasiness - I like that they've both got their hands hidden away.

What are they trying to hide? Haha.

Still I can never smile properly when a picture is being taken. Here's some advice, the next time anyone's taking a picture of me (and I can see you all lining up to do so already), don't let me know. Keep it stealthy and you'll get a more natural picture.

** Extract from Neutral Gamer's 101 Photo Tips (c) 2007 **

[CyberSentinel]

If its not a simultaneous cross platform same day release, then konami can keep the title on PS3. Splinter Cell is a better game, anyway.

P.S. Konami don't think your gonna milk 360 fans with a year old MGS4, and do prolific sales. You made your choice, stick to it. We didn't want your crappy game on Xbox 1 when it was old, we won't want it then either.

@ Overated : I know there are some Xbox fans that would like MGS4 to be on Xbox360, Myself included. (not because I would buy it, just because I want MS to steal another exclusive from you lemmings) When I say Splinter Cell is a better game, I'm not trying to flame, I really mean it. That is MHO. If you like MGS4 so much, get a RayStation 3, because that is one of the VERY FEW third party titles that WILL be exclusive. MGS4 is NOT a system seller. It has a niche fan base, at best. MGS4 will NOT save the PS3. Its impact will be insignificant. GTA is a system seller title, and PS3 lost exclusivity on it.

@ Clinton514: No, I'm not kidding. The series is getting old, just like its main character. Even Hideo Kojima wants to put the franchise to rest.

@ NaAsAr: For the sake of argument lets assume MGS for the ps2 was the first TEA game, that doesn't mean it is the best. Personally, I find the Splinter Cell story lines to be much more realistic.

[PureGamer]

Hmmm want me to own you with loads of 360 fanboys comments saying they would love for MGS4 to come over? or shall i spare you the ownage? d1ckweed

[Clinton514]

Are you kidding?

[techie]

YOu sir sound a little annoyed.

MGS series is classic and quality and he will get the best out of this title and push things further than has been done before.

The Mgs series surpasses Splinter Cell (my opinion...) but also supported by reviewers.

"As of March 2007, according to GameStats [8], the top 10 video games of all time are:

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Nintendo 64 (9.8)
2. Soul Calibur, Sega Dreamcast (9.7)
3. Resident Evil 4, Nintendo GameCube (9.7)
4. GoldenEye 007, Nintendo 64 (9.6)
5. Metal Gear Solid, PlayStation (9.6)
6. Half-Life 2, PC (9.5)
7. The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Nintendo GameCube (9.5)
8. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Wii (9.5)
9. Halo: Combat Evolved, Xbox (9.5)
10. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Playstation 2 (9.4)"

Oh and not a system seller? Who are you kidding!? When this comes out it will sell systems like hot cakes.

Metal Gear sold 7million
Metal Gear 2 sold 7million
Metal Gear 3 has sold 4.3 million

I don't know who your kidding Cyber. It's quite sad you say "not because I would buy it, just because I want MS to steal another exclusive from you lemmings"

You shouldnt care about that. Noone should. That's very depressing cyber. You sound more than anything...slightly threatened. Get over it.

It'll be a great game and thats all that matters.

**edit** GFT. MGS was a system seller. I'm sorry. Many people including my brother bought a ps just because it was one of the games on the system. Of course it's a system seller. Gears is a system seller...it's one of the reason why people go out and buy a xbox now.

A highly rated, wanted game is a system seller. And Gears is one of the best selling and rated franchises around.

It's cool you don't like it...I'm not too sure about it myself...but I know quality when I see it.

As regards to him working on the 360. Of course he will. There will be a new IP and it'll be on the 360 as well. That's all good.

[Blackmoses]

All I have to say is game... set... match!
For some reason not too many people appreciate my comments as of late on here. Some people on here have extremely thin skin. Sad, because after all we are talking video games here, I'm not gonna stomp around here leaving comments as if someone just stole my bike. Anyways....

You gotta respect a guy like this because honestly. He's right, the only way to truly move a console, the only way to truly accent a systems capabilities is for producers to show that type of loyalty to a system and show what it's truly worth. Multiplatform games, yeah great, but any one company can do that.
To actually have the fortitude to say hey, this company is who we are going to promote for the next two years or however long. That's when you get some truly great games. With the exception of the Grand Theft Auto's and Madden's and so on and so forth, the really big games are exclusive titles because the developers made that commitment. All this exclusive jumping will eventually end and then the really landmark type games for this generation of gaming will come about.

All in all I am really excited for this game. If it wasn't for the Metal Gear series, I would have never gotten back into gaming after Super Tecmo Bowl!!!

[Rockstar]

...and if you do you will see that after MGS was released on PS2 sales of the PS2 took off.

I'm hoping the same is true for the PS3.

[Grown Folks Talk]

gonna have to disagree with the system seller comment. 7, 7, and 4.3 million. out of how many PS2s? gears has already sold probably 4 mil with only 11 million or so systems in homes. most didn't buy a playstation for metal gear. they got metal gear because they already had a playstation. as far as which is better, i prefer splinter cell. i also prefer syphon filter (1 & 2 on PS1). that's just me. i don't like the metal gear style. i guess i'm the rare breed that doesn't care so much about the story. if i want to watch a movie, i'll pop in a dvd. i just want a background, a focus, and then let me play out or create the story through the game. i don't need 15 cutscenes in each level. i don't need a mini series between mission 1 and 2. just let me play. a lot of people would be happy if it came to the 360, if for nothing else, just because it wouldn't be a PS3 exclusive. i have and can continue to live without it. with all of the back and forth, it seems people have forgotten what kojima said long ago. i saw bill gates post it the other day on a thread. kojima said he wanted to work on all 3 systems. he also said he wouldn't make the same game for more than 1 system. it would be independent projects on each so that he could maximize each systems' strengths. but as usual, people only hear and see what they want to.

[BBsin]

I didn't think someone could be so dumb. This cyberguy is as dumb as a fanboy can possibly get. Comments like that shows that you are clearly not even a real gamer, only someone that enjoys the taste of Microsoft Di(k. None the less, you are wrong as hel|, MGS has always been a system seller and MSfanboys like you want that game b/c it'll do wonders for Xbox360 sales wise. You must feel pretty crappy knowing that SplinterCell isnt even a MS exclusive Franchise and games like Bioshock and NG2 will most likey be out on the PS3. I've seen some dumb fanboys before, from sony to sega Fanboys, but you take the cake.

[rowdy 1]

is a step or 2 below Metal Gear. The Metal Gear series has been going on strong for a little over 20 yrs. Last I checked the latest Splinter Cell was garbage.

[Retro-Virus]

""But like I said, MGS4 is aimed for the movie theatre, it's aimed for the PS3, so the game's scenario and graphics need this theatre-type hardware."

Pure OWNAGE !

PS-3 still has the 'mother of all killer-apps' exclusive to herself :)

[razer]

MGS is a good game, but "mother of all apps"?? I don't think so..

Sony has been paying this guys paycheck for a long time, this Movie Theatre experience comments are funny. Let's see the game already!

I will own this on the PS3 but I'm not going to belittle the other consoles. For the 360, maybe you heard about a little game called Mass Effect?? Now if you want to talk about movie theatre experience this game seems to be right on target to that reference. When I've played MGS in the past it didn't feel like anything more than a shooter with long cut-scenes. I do understand what he is trying to commmunicate, however I don't agree you can only get that on the PS3. You can get it on the 360 or the Wii if the developer knows what he's doing. And the size of the disc imo has nothing to do with a cinematic experience, Mass Effect will be on 1 disc so I don't understand. If he is going to pack the game full of CGI I'm going to be disappointed because I buy games to play them not watch cut-scenes.

Good article however!

[kingboy]

sorry no dvd 9`s here ..His Metal Gear shirt looks freaking awesome

[razer]

DVD9 works just fine. If he is going to fill it with a ton of CGI cut-scenes, no thanks!

PS That is a killer shirt!

[SoulKillah]

Nice! this means that MGS4 can only be done on PS3! So it will stay exclusive!

[Ru]

So its not going to the 360? :(
Its a good thing Im getting a PS3 too! :)

[Sashy]

Hideo recently said that he needed more space !!! :o More than 50 Gb? Well that tells me that there aint coming a xbox360 version of MGS4.

Playstation 3 - play beyond and kick som Xbox360 ass beyond :D

[razer]

You sound like a 13yo fanboy.

[ThaGeNeCySt]

LOL @ dvd

[NaAsAr]

i respect you opinion on SC being a better game than MGS. but one has to ask themself......where did this particular kind of game genre start? (tactical espionage action)

[CaliGamer]

This interview is going to make a lot of people upset. I would give up 100 Devil May Cry games for MGS. This is the reason I got a PS3, but I can't help feel a bit bad for people who own a 360 and really wanted to enjoy this game. I guess now its a matter of Kojima showing us why the PS3 is so key to pulling MGS 4 off, the trailers that have been released so far seem to suggest he is on the right track.
Regardless of whether you're sour that there will be no 360 version in the immediate future, there is no denying that this series is one of the best in video game history hands down. It will be interesting when the really rabid 360 fanboys get wind of this, it should be interesting to see their take on this new turn of events.
I was thinking of picking up Splinter Cell DA, but I have seen no reviews for the PS3 version, I figure it will keep me busy until MGS 4 comes out.

[Clinton514]

As CaliGamer said, it's one of the best series in gaming history and if it comes down to only being on one console people will have to put their stubborn attitudes aside and deal with it.

You either buy a PS3 or you don't. There's still much more to the console than one game.

[SKUD]

NOW WHERE IN THE HELL CAN I GET THAT SHIRT!!!

[NikV3]

wow, kojima says the ps3 is better, mark raine said its better, the president of insomniac said its better and the vp of sqaure says its better. looks like ps3 will probly have more third party support in the long run

[Violater]

this puts the rumors to rest and also doesn't result in a backlash from the 360 users.
If you want to play MGS4 go buy a ps3 if you want to play Halo go buy a 360 simple as that.
Or leech of a friend that has it :)
I wont comment too much on the interview the quotations speak for them selves. What i will say is I cant wait to see if "Mr Rumble" makes it back from vacation in time.

[Ps3Fanboy777]

Funny they argue when its rumor but when its fact they shut up! Go play Halo...

[Rockstar]

Yeah,
Where is TheMart to put a negative spin on this one?

[FFVIIFan]

but they should spend this time working on Square-Enix. They need to keep FFXII an exclusive. More so than that, they need to make sure the remake of FFVII stays exclusive. That game is going to come out sometime or another, and for whatever system its exclusive for will sell by the tons.

[MissAubrey]

its a ps2 game.

[Evoluti0n]

But 360 owners still have many owners to be happy. Mass Effect, I can almost guarantee, will be on a much larger scale than MGS4. I'm not trying to start an argument just simply stating the facts.

[Clinton514]

Read up on the difference between FACT and OPINION.

[Evoluti0n]

*many reasons

[lilwingman]

In an industry where nothing seems to be certain, I think Kojima's comments can finally put at least one rumour to rest.

[NikV3]

ff13 stays on the ps3 only and killzone can match the hype because that game definitly has the ability to ruin an over rated game like halo. and also if a remake of ff7 was made it would definitly help, and the fact that the ps3 is selling as well as it is also helps, but sticking to subject, its good to see a developer who isnt just wanting money and staying loyal to the company that help them keep such a great game alive. unlike capcom who turned there back on the company who made them what they are today

[Bonsai1214]

you essentially took the words i was going to type out of my mouth

[PS360WII]

^^

[ApocalypseShadow]

my words in the other thread:

metal gear4 will sell ps3s

it will sell them in japan.

it will sell them in the US.

it will sell them in europe.

would it bother me that it would go multiplatform?nope.i still will buy it on ps3.so will all those sony gamers who played metal gear on ps1 and ps2.and mark my words:rumble will be back before mgs4 and gt5 release.

the funny part is the gamers who dogged kojima's game like power of green about kojima's choice in art style,but secretly wish for it on 360 just like every other ps3 exclusive game. and some hypocrites still won't buy it because they say splinter cell is better or " more realistic." these people don't want to play mgs4.only for the fact that 360 gets it because they think it hurts sony.

CYBER SENTINEL is a pure example of what i was talking about.not to "play the game."but to laugh and snicker about it coming to 360.and he said like i knew someone would, that splinter cell is better.he's a prime example.i could understand if it was not his type of game,but it goes beyond that.his fanboy feelings was hurt during this interview."well.......i didn't want it anyway.""it's old."...................w aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.....uuu hhhh.....waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh !

as gamers said above,each system is going to have great games.you either buy the systems,or don't.but stop crying.and........each system exclusive means the devs can try to push themselves and their games on the system they are making their games on.EA is a prime example of a multiplatform company whos games are barely hitting average nowadays because they are spread out so thin.it took visual concepts(former EA employees) to scare their butts back into some kind of shape.

as for rumble,maybe we will see it at e3 along with mgs4,killzone and all the sony exclusive hits.hopefully kojima gets his rumble sooner rather than later.

[techie]

"I want to implement it, rumble, yes", he says. "I'm not thinking about a patch, though".

think that answers your question :)

[gnothe1]

but.... what was ubisoft saying the whole time(ps3 exclusive) what was capcom saying the whole time(ps3 exclusive)what was koie saying the whole time(ps3 exclusive)same thing with sega, so dont read to much into this until the game is out!! loyalty doesn't pay bills an you guys know that!! people have to realize that developers want all systems to do well an they(konami) know there game weighs alot.if they announce this game for the 360 now, how many potential PS3 owners would they lose,because alot of people bought a PS3 just for this game, an alot more people will buy a PS3 for this game!! so please dont take his brash tone as complete honesty!!

plus I know i'm gonna get flamed for that, an called a MS fanboy wanting this game, that's fine, I don't really play MGS. I played about 10 minutes between all 3 games(not my type of game but alot of people love it, just so you know, I don't like HALO either)I'm gonna loose bubbles but at this point I don't care!!

[techie]

well actually none of those companies said what kojima has just said. he basically just dissed the 360 and said the ps3 was the only platform that would support his vision. And he makes a jab at capcom for going multiplatform...so he basically sees it as stupid. Trust me it's exclusive.

As regards to you not liking MGS that's cool. But I got the impression that it really isnt the style of most XBOX gamers...

[BIadestarX]

"sony will put 360 to rest if" "ff13 stays on the ps3 only and killzone can match the hype because that game definitly has the ability to ruin an over rated game like halo". Let me guess, So all Sony has to do is make sure 3 games are release for the PS3 (Metal Gear, Final Fantasy and KillZone) and microsoft will pull the 360 of the market? ahhhhhhhhhhhh ahahahaha ahaaaaaaaaaaahahah ahahah ahahah ahaha hahh. lol. lol lol ahaha ha Sorry ahh ahah lol ahah ahahha. Fanboys you should consider taking the blue pill since you all live in a dream world.

I love Metal Gears and as I said many times I will purchase a PS3 on day one just to play that game and final fantasy. I am loyal to those titles. Not to Sony but to the games. I also agree that those are system sellers. But to say that the 360 is dead it's no only stupid but it makes you a dumb fanboy.

I am not saying that the PS3 is not going to win the console war (if there is such thing) in 2009-2010, but you need to wake up if you think that Sony can possible do anything to take Microsoft off the market with 2-3 games. Once these games are released and people play them for 2-3 months and beat them like every other game you will not see another Metal Gear or Final Fantasy for 3-4 years and More games will have to come. Just remember that an unknown franchise (Halo) has sold an impressive 12.8 million units. Gears is sold lots of copy. Now tell me, does it look like microsoft has no hope?
Sony fanboys would say anything to make themselves feel better about the console they like and would like to see other consoles pull from the market. Wrong company. Now that microsoft is making money of the xbox 360 brand and are creating new ways to make more money you are all fked!

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

I dont care if u guys knock my bubbles down...ps3 is a great system and he knows it and kojima is a genius play.....any of his games and not love them u dont like games...

[zantetsuken]

People tend to forget that when MGS2 came out, there weren't many PS2's in homes. This game franchise, as it did with PS and PS2, will help boost console sales.

[NikV3]

the sales those three games will bring in is a jump start to better sales and better sales when sales are already good is great sales, then ps3 gains more exclusive and then comes more sales, so yes, those three games are key

[ApocalypseShadow]

i won't disagree and say it might not go time exclusive.but hanging on that hope is pointless.it is being made for ps3.

the ps3 has more disc space with bluray.360 doesn't have it.

the ps3 has a hard drive as standard.360 doesn't offer that.and microsoft says you can't rely on it because of the core unit.

the ps3 has the cell chip.you can't duplicate that chip with 360's design.

metal gear is being made with ps3 in mind.i know kojima doesn't care about graphics or hdmi,but i'd bet he will push graphics.i'd bet he will use hdmi as well as 7.1 sound.what losses would mgs4 have going multiplatform?why bother?

if you have a mega hit game made specifically for a system,it will sell.and it will push systems regardless.the guy making ninja gaiden sigma said words of truth.only companies with weak games rely on multiple systems to support the games they make.because the company is hoping with that large base that their game will sell.they in essence,SUCK! at making games.great games sell systems.halo3 would suffer because it would end up on ps3,wii,gameboy advance,nintendo ds,DREAMCAST,psp,mobile phones.that's just ridiculous.some games should remain exclusive.

as for bubbles,no one should take away your bubbles for speaking your opinion as long as it is reasonable.those that take it away for no reason are not confident in their own choices and opinions.there won't be any bubble taking from me from you.

[elliot_]

"The PS3 is like the theatre, it's a little bit high-priced but it has to be high quality as well. The 360 is a DVD, it still needs to be high quality but you need more variations, while the Wii is almost like a TV channel, because every game you have it with your family"...

this hurts every x360 fanboy...who wanted msg4 on MS console (now they will say that they didn't need mgs4 of course)

[FeralPhoenix]

-LOL, I think this should put the rumors to rest.....damm, I would have liked this game on my 360 since I prefer that platform, but I guess I will just have to enjoy it on my PS3. It's funny to see how far we have come over the last year and a half, "some" of you PS3 only fans sound a bit desperate, because although I think this is definitely good news for the Sony its still a little funny that a game that was always "suppose" to be exclusive is now like a "war cry" for so many loyal PS3 fans,(maybe you have built up fustration because so many 360 fans like the series, WHY?)....this just sounds like confirmation Sony will hold on to MGS4 as an exclusive, I like Kojima, but of course he will speak favorably of the console his game is on, all dev's say that when speaking about their game on that console, Cliffy B. made similiar statements about Gears on 360, I remember statements from Insominiac about Resistance, statements from Bethesda about Oblivion and so on, but the results speak for themselves, the truth is that there will be games that "shine" and show off on both consoles....I think the only thing this proves is that Kojima favors the PS3 and only wants to make MGS4 for the PS3 which probably has alot to do with him working with Sony for so long....a little loyalty isn't a bad thing in this industry is it?

[Figboy]

as a PS3 owner, i'm glad to see one of it's classic franchises staying exclusive. this will surely boost sales of the PS3 once the game is released, hopefully this year. of course, with 3 million units sold worldwide, i think it's safe to say that the console won't be going away anytime soon.

on another note, he's noted numerous times that he'd love to develop something for the 360, that is specific to that console, taking advantage of it's particular strengths.

he's also a huge fan of Gears of War.

instead of lamenting the loss of MGS4 on the 360, look to the fact that whatever he develops for the console will probably be a new and interesting IP. i'm more interested in this new title than a port of MGS4 (i am a future 360 owner afterall, i don't want *too* much overlap of titles).

[SmokeyMcBear]

yes well said. A lot of the fanboys are only lamenting this because they won't get the chance to say, HAHA MGS4 on 360 wooohooo. Half the people that want it on the 360 only want it to add more ammunition to rants. Be happy that the 360 will more than likely get an exclusive from a great programmer. Every console has its strengths, enjoy them

[gnothe1]

is what did you guys see that makes you think the ps3 is the superior system!!an dont tell me no crap about LBP,or HOME or killzone!! dont mention tech demos or early games.because if thats the case we can do the same with future xbox games. is it the online, the blu-ray, the games(released) or is it the cell!! if its cell(just remember the EMOTION ENGINE or graphic synthesizer) NOT COMPARING THE 2 BUT HEY!!

also sony has been trying to use there chip for scientific use for awhile http://arrakis.ncsa.uiuc.ed...

just sony!! look at an article about the PS2 back before it launched, read almost half way done an look at the specs of the system an tell me did it do what they said it would . http://archives.cnn.com/200...

[SmokeyMcBear]

let me see, could it be superior because a fantastic game is going to be unveiled on the system, that has 30 GB of data.. on one disc. Did you see where they were changing the lighting effects.... on the little gadget with the tv screen.. simply amazing. Could it be that I have 2 wires, well actually 3 wires plugged into my system, the power, the hdmi, and a 750 GB external hdd (this by the way contains my DVD collection (only around 50 dvds, but still converting, my music collection (around 20 gigs, and photo albums). Could it be that I am extremely confident in leaving my system on for hours upon hours without it overheating and crapping out on me. Could it be that my tv (sony 42" LCD) actually makes more noise than my system. Oh yeah and the games.. the launch games. I am having lots of fun with motorstorm and resistance online, granted I don't get to have the little kids scream profanities or make random noises for the entire load up process, but hey you can't have everything.

[GEV1L]

I love the fact that he compared the ps3 a movie theatre: costs too much and all you can do is watch movies. Just kidding!

Honestly I loved the gameplay of mgs2 but thought the story made me lose 5 points on my iq just for having endured it. Never played mgs3 because I was still afraid of the "la-Li-lei-lou la loo" bullcrap! ALso had laready sold my ps2 by that point.

One of the biggest reasons that I dont not see either this of ff13 coming to x360 because of lack of space. Not that i believe that the actual game would not be able to fit on dvd or at worst 2 but the cutscenes definately wont. One of the things that people are forgetting about both the Metal Gear series and espcially Final Fantasy is that they are loaded to the tits with cutscenes and CGI( not sure about the cgi with metal gear but definately on Final Fantasy. Dont matter how much you compress it it will take up alot of space. I personally the slinter cell or even manhunt( love my gore, ooh yeah baby make that hurting feel good) to metal gear but that is just me. And yes metal gear is a system seller. It was on ps1, and definatly on ps2(when mgs3 came out the install base was already for lack of a better word installed. Also the foolish story of part2(not that the mg series has ever had a completely realistic storyline to it but mgs2 was real bad, kind of like that john travolta movie basic which had the most innapropriate title as the stroyline was anything but) turned alot of people off of part 3. However since the this is the new gen, even I am interested tosee what Kojima has in store for old man snake.

[ALIEN]

This mean MGS 4 could be done only on the ps3, and it means that SONY did not lose the exclusivity. I think BR is good enough, developers can make their games bigger on the ps3.

SONY all you need is FF7, do not lose MGS4 and bring out KILLZONE 2 and GOW 3 and "the victory will be yours", and don't forget about the games that are about to come out, you guys know them, so i don't have to list them.

[mephixto]

Take this like a warning sign. DVD9 isn't enough for games like MGS4. I got the last month Supreme Commander and C&C 3 and both of them are up of 7GB (nearly the maximum of data in DVD9). Maybe on Christmas or early 2008 we will see the first game using 2 dvd.

[Elginer]

guess I'll have to save up for a PS3 and blue-tooth headset...aww damn. Well I'm 200 bucks in already but it's so hard to save with so many other games coming to the 360 I wanna get. But MGS4 looks to be a great game and I think it should stay on the system if only to actually help justify the price of the bloody PS3. I just have to wonder why people keep bringin up Killzone as if it's some great title. The first one sucked, why is everyone so excited for the second one? Did I miss something?

[wildcat]

I think people are first, eager to see if it lives up to the trailer, and second because the developers have the knowledge of their mistakes with the first one(i've never played it). I think this one might have a bigger production value too. Sony also has a lot more to prove with this game this time around, launching so late and all.

[Bhai]

Quote:
"It's when a producer has a game that can work on the 'DVD level' that a game will go multiplatform".

WOW ! and I sure do hope FF-XIII is also not a "DVD level" game for that 'DVD level' category is only texture-deep basically and ain't deserve to be called proper next-gen. MGS4 appears to be defining the next-gen thing especially the utilization of a hi-medium such as Blu-Ray. The quality of sound, visuals and gameplay all in all will be spectacular and never-before-seen. This interview pretty much shows that there are two levels, a 'DVD level' and and a grand 'Theatre level'. The PS3 difference is so obvious so early even within the first year, 2007 !!!

[DJ]

He obviously feels that it's best to create platform-specific titles, especially since all three console have such different processing power/storage capacity differences.

[The Karate Kid]

Well that was indeed the deathblow to the XBox 360 lol.....

Just incase you fanboys didnt know, I work in the industry. Konami & Square Soft & Namco HATES MICROSOFT lol

Did you really think the Japanese Developers were going to turn against there own Machine lol..........

Virtua Fighter 5 lol
Devil May Cry 4 lol

Great games but we already had virtua fighter 5 and Devil May Cry will be better on PS3 anyways lol

Now lets talk about system sellers.... 1st lets take a look at history

PS2 came out no good games then what happened????
(****Little Big Planet Music in the Background****)

Metal Gear Solid 2 & Final Fantasy 13 came out lol

End result 115 Million Sold!!!!!!!!!

To those of you who don't understand business let me break it down to you.

These two games have a massive following, not just for the consumer, but for the entire industry.

These games will set the standard and create the wave for the playstation 3 system. After these releases the system will sale significantly and and many developers will follow suit of the PS3 technology. With Cell & Blu-Ray there are just so many things that is not possible on XBOX 360 period. So Metal Gear Just cannot be released on the platform =( Im sorry fanboys.

XBOX 360 is an extension of XBOX thats it. When you look at microsoft stradegy what do you see? Are they selling you a next generation system or are they selling you a newer version of Halo and Xbox live lol...

Sony has sooooooooooo many offerings from a entertainment stand point, and as i said before and i will say it again Blu-Ray continues to grow and its getting bigger and bigger.

Now the key of Sony winning this console race is Europe & Japan.

360 lose Europe and Japan they lose the race period!!!!

Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy 13 Inclusion of Home = Many systems sold in Europe and japan =)

Im sorry 360 but coming out 1st with DVD gave you great short term success, you looked like a king at first, now you will be just a great memory. I'll admit i had alot of fun with Dreamcast aswell.

Killzone 2
Devil May Cry 4
Grand Theft Auto 4 (Without switching Disk lol)
Metal Gear Solid 4
Final Fantasy 13
Little Big Planet
Uncharted Drakes Forutne
Heavely Sword
Lair
Motor Storm
Ratchet & Clank Tools Of Destruction
Ninja Gaiden Sigma (1080p & 60 frames baby)
Playstation Home (Next Generation of online gaming community)
Gran Turismo 5
New Sixxaxis Controller with rumble integration
Updated Firmware

Yawns- The Playstation Is Doing Just Fine..........

[artman]

asia too, the only reason 360 console sell easier in my country is because of 360 lack of security, there are a lot of pirates game sold here, just for $15. but they still prefer PS3 (but can't afford the game)
is this bad news or good news?

Lucky I haven't buy many of 360 games...

[darthkojima]

dude you forgot this:

Tekken 6
Warhawk
Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Heavy Rain
God of War 3

and yeah I agree EUROASIA FTW!!!!!

[darx]

You don't work in the industry.

[artman]

I agree that 360 is a DVD, PS3 is theater... wii is TV.
why these people think that everybody want gear? btw I don't buy gear for my 360... coz it's not my style... most of my friends prefer call of duty than gears... I prefer DOA volleyball lol* that's the reason I buy 360 & xbox, that's it.

Now I'm enjoying my PS3, I'm not a big fan of MGS, I played when on PS1 only... the others I was just watch my cousin play it.
but sure it's a good game, and I will get MGS4 just to see what the PS3 can do~ I know that kojima will always trying to push the limit of the console for his game (MGS)
he know how to use the facilities & capabilities of each console.

360 owners... just wait... maybe someday after MGS4 he will make one game of 360 oke? (that where he have been thinking about for 10years, hopefully 360 can fit his imagination)

[kornbeaner]

is one of my favorite devs of all times, him along with miyamoto & suda.

These type of games are the reason why I bought a PS3. I love Japan style games they offer what very few Western Devs can offer.

Damn I can't wait for this GAME!!!!!

It's gonna be sweet!!!!!!!

[kamakazi]

aaaaahhhhh yes.... SNAKE on my PS3, SNAKE on my Wii(smash bros) and gears on my 360. god it feels good to be a PSWii60 OWNER :)

[THE TERMINATOR]

"Now that microsoft is making money of the xbox 360 brand and are creating new ways to make more money you are all fked!" True they are about to release Xbox Elite a console with no significant advantage just to make more money from daft Xbox fanboys like you.

[Robert22388]

daft... That was good :)

Kudos

[Xi]

the ps3 is a movie theater, you spend a lot for 2 hours of fun and still walk away disappointed half the time.

[BBsin]

I wonder.... IF it was going to be released on the xbox360... how would they apply that "lay on his back" tilt aiming they did with the sixaxis on that tech demo?? Kojima WILL make use of the sixaxis, any one who played the previous metal gears knows how much he likes adding little features like that in the game given the opportunity. Now the question is, how will konami apply those very sixaxis commands on the xbox360, IF it were to be released on that platform.

[power of Green]

What the fuc are you talking about?, i think you're confused with Devil May Cry.

The only thing i'v said about MGS4 is its ugly as sh*t(piss green color and poor graphics as of now) and wondered why PS3 fans were attacking 360 fans for talking about the rumors of MGS4 being multi platform.

I might have talked about the last time i played through a MG game was on the Nintendo and played the one for the Xbox for a couple of hours only giving back after hating the retarded camera. If you can find me saying i'm excited to play MG4 on the 360 i'll be shocked check my history and stay off my nuts.

WoW its like you guys are talking about the 2nd coming of Christ in here. We're saved! the big bad Microsoft has spared us.

MGS4 is not coming to the 360 lets move on i wouldnt be worried about MGS4 meaning anything in the Console battle.

[Robert22388]

Ive got a feeling we'll be seeing alot of posts like this. One second they are all clamoring for the day MGS4 will be announced on 360, the next they are bad mouthing it to shreds.

You guys lost this one, just move on. Go play GOW and Halo 3, after all the hubbub ive heard about them, they are supposedly the only games youll even need to own, EVER. Like the Jesus of gaming or something. (yes, that was sarcasm)

[lilwingman]

To be fair, they never really did HAVE this one.. so saying they lost it is a bit of a moot point.

[fenderputty]

you hate the PS3, and you also know that this thread is going to be chalk full of happy PS3 fans, then why do you come here? Maybe you loose your bubbles simply beacuse you like to troll. You're one of the lamest posters on here.

[marcellizot]

http://forums.n4g.com/m_207...

[Shaka2K6]

The game is only possible on PS3 so its not going anywhere.

[Maldread]

First of, it`s good that the game is staying on PS3, so it can maximize the console`s capabilities. I think the PS3 could do with some exclusive, from the ground-up-build games, and not lesser versions of 360 and PC ports (i know there are some exceptions, but not many). As for 360 owners, Kojima has said that he could make a 360 specific game too, so don`t worry.

Now, i know he says MGS4 could only be made on PS3 because of Blu-Ray etc, but have we yet seen why grapichly ? I don`t mean like some others above that the game looks bad, but does it really look better than most 360 exclusive games ? I would have to say no. Maybe it`s because of the content that`s in the game (i somehow doubt it will be really long, based on it`s predecessors), but maybe it`s the interactions or something. The point i`m getting at, is that i havn`t yet seen in the trailers, why MGS4 need 50 gigs.

Not trying to discredit Kojima here, because the guy always says great statements in my opinion. Maybe i`ll see why it needs the space when it`s out or in the next trailer, but i don`t see it now, sorry.

[PSN Starfleets]

All I hope is that we finally see a PS3 title that actually USES it's superior technology because, I don't know about you, but I'm getting sick and tired of all the articles on the consoles specificatios and it's processing power - yet we get games that sometimes look worst and perform worst than their copies on the 360.

We need something very impressive, something the PS3 can only do. So I hope it' MGS4.

[gnothe1]

is what makes the PS3 the superior system. you guys know sony is known for hyping a chip( emotion engine, graphic synthesizer PS2,+cell PS3)now I'll agree as a system to play movies its definitely better than the 360 with the HD-DVD player. but... the PS3 is supposed to be a game system!! so what make the PS3 a better gaming system! its not the online,not the games(current) so what is it!!

[Elginer]

I wonder why some people here all of a sudden got a huge console-hard on for the PS3. Yes, the PS3 has better tech, at least in some areas other areas not so much. That is fact both the 360 and PS3 have different pros and cons. If MGS4 eventually comes to the Xbox then fine, in not then fine as well. It's not a huge deal. I don't see why people get soo defensive over ONE game. Everyone should know by now that both systems are going to have their blockbuster games. They have to, the PS3 will in time do just fine. What I hate is these people that claim their not fanboys but any news that a game cannot, or will not be on the 360 it's like a huge uproar of a wang sizing contest. Look you spent 600 plus on your PS3, enjoy it. But there is no need to act superior which is my biggest problem with PS3 owners. I'll own a PS3 eventually as I owned a PS2 and PSone. But that doesn't mean I have to have the so called "elitist" attitude that goes with it. That's just so freaking sad. Enjoy your bloody console and that's it.

[THAMMER1]

Blu Ray is not that big of a factor here. The PC games have far surpassed the console world and they still use DVD9's. All this 30-gig talk makes people look stupid. I respect Kojima to the bone gristle but this type of talk is boofale'. This is the same type of talk that has been debunked as only hype to sell games to the hart of a Sony fan. I’m not dissing the PS3 or Sony fans but all members of N4G know the facts behind the PS3 marketing and how untrue it has been to our hobby. This has to be programmed and artists have to work on it.

Just look at it like this. This is a big budget game that needs to sell millions of copies just to make a profit. If a publishing company or developer knows he has niche of people who bit on the whole video games needs Blu Ray thing then why would they not continue to market that even after it has been found to not be true? Because they know in your hart you believe it.

R: FOM was 17 – 19 gigs and it underperformed Call of Duty2. Both graphics and A.I. are much better on COD 2. COD2 was like 5 Gigs. Do you see where I’m going here? Assassins Creed will be more detailed then MGS4 and it is multi platform. The games on PS3 have to be so big because developers are not compressing the data, and the game code has to be programmed on an asymmetrical CPU so there for it will always be larger than the game code on the 360. The dose not mean it will be better or cannot be done cross platform. The only development studios that say their games are only possible on PS3 is 1st party and exclusive game developers.

I'm not saying the PS3 is trash but this is the type of stuff that devides us here on line.

If you disagree be a productive member of the site and give your reasons why. Make some since out of your ideas and opinions about our hobby. Just hitting the disagree button dose not change facts or give light to your reasons for disagreeing. We still have a long way to go to become unified.

[Aeroglyphics]

First, PC Games do not generally have textures that are made to be seen in HD. HD textures are the reason some of these games are so large.
Second, any kind of compression lessens the quality of the file it is being applied to. It doesn't matter if you have the best compression scheme ever created, the compressed data will always be of lesser quality. Nothing will ever look better than uncompressed raw data, it's just not possible.

[lilwingman]

First off - and unfortunately - I can never really see the day when the gaming community becomes unified. As long there is a console "war" going on, there will be a war online between the supporters of each. It's just human nature to want to be the best.

You're points about the different PS3 games are very opinionated, and relative only to you, really. I personally think that Resistance bests COD2 in all aspects, but I really just don't like the setting. WWII era is not my thing, so maybe it detracted from the experience a bit. But saying Assasin's Creed will be more detailed than MGS4 makes no sense IMO since neither has been released yet and we haven't seen anything... but still, I can't see that happening. From the videos so far it looks great, without a doubt, but unless there are dedicated teams working on all multi-plat versions, than Assasin's Creed won't take advantage of each system's individual strengths; and that is the only way to make games look to their full potential.

[deathtok]

Blu-ray adds to the whole HD experience. Both companies are making plenty of claims around HD. One point remains valid there though. DVD can't deliver HD movies. In addition, Blu-ray supports different HD sound formats that likely will not be supported on DVD. This is where multi-platform games will divide given some time. For example, you can play DMC4 on X360 and PS3 just fine. But only on the PS3 can you watch the in-game movies in HD.

Just a side note on compression. Compression can mean two different things in the world of gaming. 1) It uses extra CPU power to decompress then RAM to retain in this format or 2) loss of quality. When you compress audio from a ripped CD format to 128kb mp3 you have compression of sound and loss of quality.

[hfaze]

"Blu Ray is not that big of a factor here. The PC games have far surpassed the console world and they still use DVD9's."

Yes, PC games are just recently getting to DVD9 discs... For the install media. Take a look at the size of the game once it's decompressed and installed... Not so tiny anymore...

"I’m not dissing the PS3 or Sony fans but all members of N4G know the facts behind the PS3 marketing and how untrue it has been to our hobby."

Honestly, I agree with you whole-heartedly on this one. Personally I would LOVE to see some big-wig heads roll at Sony and get some fresh blood in that can push the Playstation brand without getting nailed with bad press for stupid remarks every 10 seconds...

"Just look at it like this. This is a big budget game that needs to sell millions of copies just to make a profit. If a publishing company or developer knows he has niche of people who bit on the whole video games needs Blu Ray thing then why would they not continue to market that even after it has been found to not be true?"

And you think that this game WON'T sell millions of copies as a PS3 exclusive? You think that there will never be a reason for more than 9GB of data for a game disc? To be honest, there's no way to tell on either of these points until the game comes out. I have no doubts that Kojima will pull off a masterpiece with this one. I have no doubts that this game will showcase what the PS3 is capable of, and I have no doubts that this game along with the others coming down the pipe for late 2007/early 2008 will drive PS3 hardware sales to the point where 3'rd party developers see the platform as a profitable venture.

Do I think that the 360 is absolutely not capable of pulling off this game? Not really... The storage space issue could be worked around by either putting the game on multiple DVD's, and/or compressing the snot out of everything. But at the same time, I think the game will BENEFIT from only being developed for one platform. If you need an example of this, just take a look at pretty much ANY EA game... ;-)

The thing that irks me are the 360 fanboys that aren't even interested in playing the game, and only want this game on the 360 so they could boast about how Microsoft stole another exclusive from Sony... C'mon now people, the gaming industry is big enough for all three companies to be successful. There will be great games on all three consoles. ENJOY THE GAMES!

[gsquad]

Well no, But Blu Ray disc’s are an enabler. It enables you to leave media uncompressed. Now I know that we live in the world of compression, we compress everything music, movies, features, it’s just our way of life. But is compression better? I would say no. Is it useful? I would say yes.

Blu Ray is not necessary or some end-all-to-be-all solution, however to say that it is not useful or an advantage for gamers is short sighted. I don’t know if you own a PS3 THAMMER1. But I do and if you have played R:FOM you would notice that throughout the game, start to finish, there a very, I mean very little repeated textures, also the textures a very complex. I am talking very detailed when up close not like some games, you get close to a texture and it looks like wallpaper. This is because with the added space of the Blu Ray you can have uncompressed textures and a lot of them. This it the reason for R:FOM’s 17-19gigs. There are other things also like number of players on screen, number of particles on screen, and number of individual calculations for physics and the code that goes with it that contributes to the lager number of gigs needed for this game. Truth-be-told as good as GeOW is and as fun it is, there is never more than 8 individual AI personalities on screen at one time. Also if you really want to see the GeOW slow to a crawl try this. Start a versus game with 7 of you friends on any level and one by on start to throw smoke grenades by the third one the game will start to slow down badly. This can be reproduce online or offline. (It takes more that three offline in a system link configuration but it still happens) R:FOM can have more that 20 individual AI personalities on screen at one time!

As for you comment about the AI between Call of Duty2 and R:FOM. I would venture to say that you either one, have not played R:FOM long enough or two, that you didn’t play it on the hardest level. Yes, like any game there will be varying level of difficulty, but this is mainly controlled by how many shots it will take to kill the S.O.B., decisions the AI will be allowed to make, and how fast the computer controlled player will make that tactical decision. Let me explain!

Let’s use’s GeOW again.

On casual, not only does the locust take less damage but you will notice that they will stay in a single cover location for longer periods of time. However if you go up to hardcore the locust grunts move from cover-to-cover using the “run”. Also, based on their weapon will choice to pick you off from a far or close in, gun butt you or, in most of my cases, put the shotgun to your chest and pull. LOL!!!

In R:FOM most of the video’s shown on Gametrailers, Gamespot and others alike, were shown with “GOD MODE ON” and with the difficulty on the lowest level. They do this so that they can show off the game with minimal distractions and things like death. If you are making you judgments based off of those videos you are doing your self and others that respect you opinions a disservice. If you own, or get a chance to play R:FOM put it on the HARDEST level then get off the first stage send me a video and I will give you the biggest applause ever. The game is way harder and the AI is much, much smarter than that of COD2 trust me!

(When I say hardest that means you have to beat the game first then play it again on the next hardest level up!)

“Jump in” and “Welcom3 Chang3”

[THAMMER1]

Aeroglyphics

PC games are made for HD and have been for years. You’re generalizing. Compression dose not lesson the quality it just folds the data into bite size chunk and allows the CPU to open them up. The data is the same compressed and uncompressed.

lilwingman
I've played COD 2 and R: FOM the only major difference is the weapons selection and the look of the enemies. The textures are just about the same the frame rates are the same.

AC was 1st promoted from SONY and Ubi to take full advantage of the PS3. Judging from what I have seen they are pouring the most they can into that game. No one gamer stated this low quality talk until the game was announced multi platform.

deathtok

You contradicted your self. PC games are on DVD9's then uncompressed to your RAM. So why is that a disadvantage for the 360? Rest my case. I never doubted the amount of sales this game will make so I have no idea where you came up with that. Good day sir.

unixphreak1911

You are a true Sony fan. That is cool with me but… This game is possible on the 360. And Blu Ray will be what divides if the game is possible it will be the CPU, GPU, and the amount of RAM available to support the game.

gsquad

The disc has the textures and extra thing going on burned into it. But the disk is not streaming the video real time. All of that data is ran when the games is lading.

I understand that Blu Ray is great tech. Please do not miss my point The point is it necessary as SONY has marketed it to be. It may only be necessary for the PS3. That would make it a feature and not an ace of spades. If this were the case PC games developer would have embraced Blu Ray right away.

[gsquad]

Not to be grouped with the other people that made comments. (Because if you look at the time mine was posted you could see that mine came first but it took time for me to gather my thoughts so I ended up last. I just don't want you to think I was just jumping on the bandwagon)

I agree that Blu Ray is great tech and I understand that you believe Sony hyped it up to be so all important, but even though I agree it still doesn’t change the fact that Blu Ray is an advantage over DVD9 (with compression). At some point the compression will run out and then what? Developers will say that they can’t fit anymore information on a single disc. They will have to go to double disc games. If this happens will MS or other development companies eat the cost of the second disc and disc printing or pass that price on to the consumer? Like I said Blu Ray is not the end-all-to-be-all solution but it is not just a simple feature either. If it was just a simple feature, NO (zero) games at this point would use the extra space. It would be something unused but a FEATURE that could be utilized in the future.

As for PC game developers embracing the Blu Ray, that is a marketing and sales thing. Why would you make a game on Blu Ray when +95% of your target market doesn’t have a Blu Ray player in their PC. That would be stupid. Secondly the installer for a game is very small in comparison to the full game. This is because every PC has a HDD that you will be installing the game on. PC developers know this, hell they put it right on the packaging. (Requirements: 10 HDD, just an exsample) Because of this the PC developers will not need the disc storage of a Blu Ray. Consoles however don’t always have the HDD space. (i.e. The X360 CORE) Why because the console market never envisioned a HDD drive in the system until the last console race with the PS2 and Xbox. When home consoles turn into a “HDD standard” type thing, Blu Ray will be unneeded and unnecessary. But while home consoles still need to stream content off of the disc, bigger data storage on those discs will be warranted, wanted, and needed.

“Jump in” and “Welcom3 Chang3”

[Aeroglyphics]

Actually compression, does lessen quality. What you are descriping is zipping files which doesn't have anything to do with texture compression. Texture compression would be like having a 600dpi texture in photoshop (where the texture was created) then using Jpg compression on that. It's never going to look as good as it did in the form it was created in.

[THAMMER1]

Aeroglyphics

I know what compression is 1st off. But tell me this. You bring up photo shop. But what dose that have to do with game development and the 360? Are you saying they use the same type of compression or do you even have a clue?

gsquad

And I'm not saying Blu Ray is not a great option. I'm just saying why use those options to discredit the 360. It is true that the 360 is still a great option and offers good games to back that up.

Finally I'm not trying to discredit the PS3 in any way I'm just pointing out that you do not need to discredit one console to give props to the other. There are allot of unfounded theories surrounding the PS3 that are not true but are supported as true and used to slam the 360. Since when was this cool.

[gsquad]

I would agree that X360 is a great option. (thats why I have one) But so is the PS3!!!!

I would agree that there are a lot of theories that surround the PS3, but I don’t think that they are untrue, maybe unsubstantiated on the system, but not unfounded or untrue. Also I’m not the one of those people that is using these unsubstantiated claims in order to slam the X360. I only use what i know to be factual at the time of my post. However I would say that there is a lot of slamming from both sides. Especially when the PS3 came out from all the X360 fan boys. It has never been cool to do that, but I reed a lot of fan boy rants from X360 fan slamming the PS3 all the time on this site. About how they don’t have a game as high fidelity as GeOW and these constant comparisons between ports of X360 games to PS3. (Especially when it is obviously that a game that is a port from one system to another will not take advantage of the systems strengths.) SO my question is when is it cool for X360 fans to slam the PS3 and it’s not OK to the PS3 fans to slam the X360?

“Jump in” and “Welcom3 Chang3”

[Aeroglyphics]

And yes I do know what I'm talking about. I can PM you a link of an example of what I do if you like.

[deathtok]

"You contradicted your self. PC games are on DVD9's then uncompressed to your RAM. So why is that a disadvantage for the 360?"

Contradiction... but where? I didn't mention PC's but if you have to then let's talk about compression. I suppose it has it's pros and cons but always at the sacrifice of CPU power. I'll give an every day example.. notice that it takes time to decompress a RAR or ZIP file? However, playing back a FLAC file takes up far less space than WAV though slightly more processing power for the algorithm. Also, PC's are far more flexible than consoles by nature and vary in specs; it's not a good comparison. Rest my case.

"I never doubted the amount of sales this game will make so I have no idea where you came up with that."

To quote you "...I have no idea where you came up with that." because I mentioned nothing about sales. You may have meant to direct this at unixphreak1911. Good day to you sir, as well.

[sloth4urluv]

"Could you patch it? A later update would at least give players the choice. "I want to implement it, rumble, yes", he says. "I'm not thinking about a patch, though". Oh. Well, early days, I guess. Maybe rumble and motion-sensing can't get along after all?"

Picks up wiimote and scratches head.

[Shadow Flare]

Of all the trailers and stuff i've seen of any next-gen game, MGS4 has to be the coolest. The mini-rex's running around tearing up the city, snake's octo-cam suit, raiden as the ninja. Every MGS has been awesome, but this looks especially awesome.

It's nice to see that some developers still know what loyalty is and don't let their wallet think for them. I'm especially happy that MGS4 is remaining exclusive. Its not so much the fact that going multi-platform allows another audience to appreciate the game, but if it goes multi-platform then it spells out death for ps3

PS. After MS obtained Devil May Cry 4, they said that the next 2 in line were Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid. Looks like they got told. Money can't buy everything.

[PSN Starfleets]

Microsoft didn't even comment on that, which was actally said by an MS employee "making a personal wishlist", who seemed like a fanboy.

So please get your facts straight, I dont want to see people embarrassing themselves.

[Icryo]

MGS4 will be awesome, no doubt. This is THE game for the PS3.
Would love it to come out Fall 2007, even though there is no chance of that ever happening...

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

Money can`t buy storage space.
Too bad.
actually it can(maybe for an extra $200)LOL

The Future Starts Now.

[hfaze]

Sony systems have ALWAYS had a slow start, only to end up turning out amazing games. The first year of ANY of Sony's systems has historically been slow. When the PS2 initially came out, it didn't have any games that were a "must have" for the system. Yet it still went on to sell over 100 million units. The PS2 received a good bit of bad press over failing hardware, yet it still ended up being one of the most successful consoles EVER.

Now with the PS3... It has admittedly got off to a rocky start with games not showing much superiority to the 360 (with cross-platform shovelware looking SLIGHTLY better on the 360). It released in Europe with a MUCH higher price there than in the US or Japan despite the fact that the PS2 hardware has been removed from the console. Yet it had record-breaking sales in Europe, with PS3 games heading up the European game sales charts. Yet the system hasn't even been out for six months yet, and people are already saying that it's a dead system...

I say it's still WAAAAAY to early on to be making any kind of predictions.

But honestly, the competition between the three companies will only drive innovation, which brings great things for us gamers. That's why a healthy gaming industry NEEDS several companies in the mix to keep things from getting stagnant. All this talk of Sony or Microsoft getting taken out of the game would do us gamers no good what-so-ever. Do you really want to see another video game industry crash?

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

Sony (is like your parents they make mistakes, but have to love them anyways,they have your best interests in mind)

Nintendo (is like your grandparents, it just not the same as when you were a kid, but you still fully respect them)

Microsoft(is like a drunk uncle, he`s fun to hang with, but he`s no one to look up to, he`s only concerned about fun in the moment, and if your not carefull he might try to take advantage of ya)

[hfaze]

"Microsoft (is like a drunk uncle, he`s fun to hang with, but he`s no one to look up to, he`s only concerned about fun in the moment, and if your not careful he might try to take advantage of ya)"

LOL, ROFL!!! Ahhh man... they don't "take advantage" of ya, they give you the "choice" to pay more for their system to get similar functionality to their competitor's offering... ;-)

[zonetrooper5]

I still want this to come to my Xbox 360, but this game and Killzone 2 will make me buy the PS3. I just gotta wait for a price drop from Sony and then me thinks i will buy the PS3. I do hate the fact that he classed the Xbox 360 as a DVD and the PS3 as a theather, is it because the PS3 has Blu-Ray ? lol i think thats right, in terms of power both of them are the same. Sony has payed him money to say that stuff, i've seen many devs say good things about the Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii.

[NikV3]

i think microsoft said it best themselves when they said "the ps3 is 3 years ahead of the market". you should probly look at the hardware specs before you say stupid things

[wildcat]

Now I can't wait to see what he's going to show in terms of what the PS3 can do. I'm glad that he is making console-specific games because then you can truly satisfy both worlds, knowing that it was made just to optimize the strengths of your system.

[FordGTGuy]

MGS4 final would be able to fit on 1 DVD-9 using the right compression techniques. If we don't get it then to bad for hideo thats a huge fanbase his letting down and his also losing alot of money.

[Bill Gates]

Joke First:
The only way this game would be possible on a 360 with DVD 9 is if Kojima developed Snake with only one arm, one leg, one ear, no guns, no shoes, no hair, no enemies, and no vehicles. All these things would need to be downloadable for the 360 (granted you have a HDD). Good thing M$ gave you the choice huh?…hahahhaha

Ok now on to my rant….

A spokesperson for M$ once said “ One down, two more to go.” (Referring to DMC 4, MGS4, and FFXIII).

Anyone with a brain who has been gaming for a long time, and has been paying attention to the gaming industry for a long time could have foreseen DMC 4 going to the 360 this gen.. Same goes for GTA 4 not being a timed exclusive anymore. IT WAS A GIVEN YOU DIPSH!TS!!!….It was not a shock to those in the know.
But the moment M$ announce that their hardware was DVD 9,…..MGS4, and FFXIII were immediately OFF the table. M$ FU(KED UP!!!….and now they, (and many of their fans) are starting to realize it.

People are going around saying, “M$ gives you the choice”, blah, blah, blah!!
Choice my arss!! M$ will drain your wallets if you keep believing them, and you know it. Blind Lemmings!!!
The only reason why GTA 4 is still coming to the 360 is because a lot of stuff will be downloadable content. M$ knows that they will have to shun out those people that have purchased the “Core”, but it’s something they understand needs to be done because of their fu(k up. In this case M$ will give them the choice to go out and “buy” a $100-$180 space limited HDD. Talk about a “Choice”. By not incorporating a next gen. Drive into their system, M$ is making it up by screwing the consumer with expensive limited HDD’s to make up for the lack of disk space their system lacks. This will be something that developers will get tired of in the coming years.

The 360 fanb!tches want this game because they know it’ll be a huge success for Sony. It’s going to be the last installment in the series, and Kojima will be going all out on this game. The haters will just have to either put their heads down in shame, or give into buying a PS3 so they don’t miss out on this epic game.

Sony hit you up front with the cost of what it’s going to cost you to play games on their system. If you want it, buy it, if you don’t, than maybe they’ll have something you may want later on down the line which might entice you to buy one. M$ on the other hand will be nickel and diming’ you for the whole life of the 360 with cheap add-ons, and new “Elite” models with outdated specs (HDMI 1.2) to try and fool you dips)-(its.

By the time Kojima decides to focus on a game for the 360…the console will be in the history books. I say this because I think his next focus will be the Wii.

-To the lemmings that say……

1-MGS4 will be filled with CGI……For the last time MGS does not use CGI, you little rats.

2-The game wont sell consoles….you’re an idiot! All AAA titles sell consoles. That’s why games like this,GT5, and FFXIII are spread out,…to help boost sales you dipsh!ts.

FINALLY,

Now this is where I’ll lose all my bubbles…..

M$ changed the whole attitude/outlook of console gaming once they joined, by dragging over all their PC gaming lemmings with them along to consoles. It’s from a lot of these people that most of the ignorance/hate for Sony, and Nintendo comes from. That and all the other lemmings they have been able to brainwash. I’M NOT REFERING TO ALL PC GAMERS!!!

I wouldn’t have so much disgust for M$ had they not abandoned the first Xbox so quickly. This time around I’m much wiser with my “Jump In” attitude with M$. They are bringing absolutely nothing new to the console innovation table in this generation of gaming, and are steeling the money all over again from those who are not in the know.

**Simply state your opinions/frustrations/love for gaming/ideas, and move along…….
**if you respond directly to me by name…you’re a LOSER.

[SmokeyMcBear]

please bill, don't call me a loser, I don't understand how you can say those hateful things about your own company...here take my money for vista, i hope this makes you happier

[MoonDust]

If they want to keep it on the PS3 good for them. Only way for it to go multi-platform is for the shareholders to demand it.

[zonetrooper5]

"59.1 - your a little off
i think microsoft said it best themselves when they said "the ps3 is 3 years ahead of the market". you should probly look at the hardware specs before you say stupid things"

I was not saying anything stupid if you were directing that comment at me. In terms of power the PS3 and Xbox 360 are the same, though, in some parts the 360 will perform better while in other parts the PS3 will do better than the PS3. MS was talking about Blu-Ray when they said that, Blu-Ray, HD-DVD and HDMI are not needed and should not be here for at least another year or two.

[SimmoUK]

Once the CELL processor has been mastered by all the studios PS3 will be around twice as powerful as the Xbox360, that takes into account that you could argue that the Xbox360 has a better GPU.

Sorry I haven't been around lately guys been really busy, got nothing new for you apart from that Killzone wasn't an April fools it was a misunderstanding between Sony and a publication.

New levels of LAIR, ice and fire will be soon with us though :)

[Bill Gates]

I think everyone should spread this comment all over the Internet every chance they get. It has got to be best analogy ever made to describe this console generation….Too hilarious.

“Sony (is like your parents, they make mistakes, but you love them anyways, they have your best interests in mind).

Nintendo (is like your grandparents, it’s just not the same as when you were a kid, but you still fully respect them).

Microsoft (is like a drunk uncle, he’s fun to hang with, but he’s no one to look up to. He’s only concerned about fun in the moment, and if your not careful, he might try to take advantage of you).”........................ ............................... ........................Best comment of 2007, by Anego Montoya.

[Bill Gates]

My son, MONEY always makes Billy happy.

Thank you,...now get back to Halo, We're milking it to the end!! ...ooops I mean there are two new maps available.

[BIadestarX]

"The PS3 is like the theatre" Yeah, is one of those places people go only when a block buster movies comes. Who would go to the movies to watch a movie that sucks? I agree 100% with kojima on this one. A game like metal gear is worth going to the theatre for. Though I wouldn't trade my HD TV and large libraries of dvd movies for a single day and 1 movie. Specially considering the fact that eventually the movie will come out in DVD. Also, let's not forget that lots of good movies never hit the theatre and go directly to DVD.

"the ps3 is 3 years ahead of the market". You took that out of context. They were refering to the movie format. It will take that amount of years before a format is stablished. Since as far as GPU and OS it's the other way around.

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"Lots of good movies go directly to dvd? a little contradictory don't you think? if a movie is good why not make millions on it by showing it on the big screen?" Ironically, many good movies and TV shows (i.e. 24, Battle Start Galactica) don't hit the big screen simply because [it's to expensive to do so] and/or they are able to reach their target and larger audience; besides many movies make a lot more money once the movie is released on DVD and over the years.

"Sony (is like your parents, they make mistakes, but you love them anyways, they have your best interests in mind)." Just make sure you are not talking about those parents that make the mistake of raping and molesting their kids... intrestingly some of those parents believe that they still have their childrens best interest in mind.

I am not trying to flame the PS3 on any way; I love going to the "Theatre" but there are many logical ways to flip his statement in a negative or possitive way. Which is why it's not worth getting a hard on over the fact that the PS3 is compared to a theatre.

[SmokeyMcBear]

but doesnt the ps3 play dvd's, im not really sure because i have my dvds in digital form (ripped and encoded), so im not really sure if they do, cuz that would be cool is ps3 could play dvd's too

mmmm sarcasm

[Bill Gates]

Chump of The Week award.

“Sony (is like your parents, they make mistakes, but you love them anyways, they have your best interests in mind).

Nintendo (is like your grandparents, it’s just not the same as when you were a kid, but you still fully respect them).

Microsoft (is like a drunk uncle, he’s fun to hang with, but he’s no one to look up to. He’s only concerned about fun in the moment, and if your not careful, he might try to take advantage of you).”........................ .............................. . ........................Best comment of 2007, by Anego Montoya.

[Adriokor]

"Also, let's not forget that lots of good movies never hit the theater and go directly to DVD."
Lots of good movies go directly to dvd? a little contradictory don't you think? if a movie is good why not make millions on it by showing it on the big screen?

[power of Green]

Are you stupid? what part of my post did you not understand?.

fenderputty: lets be real here its because extream Sony fanboys are rabid as hell and find my comments offensive as if a consoles are something to be offended by. No one was talking to your ass I have the right to deffend myself. I come here for the same reasons everybody else comes here to read the new smarty, you're not so hot on my poster list either but im sure in the hell; not going to waste my time chasing Sony fans to spite them with malice driven rabidness. My bubbles have vanished for saying cool this 360 game looks cool in a 360 thread, so dont try and tell me why i loose my bubbles.

The cheap shot to Capcom is ridiculous also i could imagine its because of envy based on the success of Capcom knowing how to make AAAs that appeal to the masses in the East and the West and their doing so well doing it.

[power of Green]

I dont even make the top 15 most active users. lol Check the Most active user list before you try and use insult me with excuses to try and take a jab at me for being offended by my opinions after all thats the real reason Sony fans spite me.

[fenderputty]

" 69 - fenderputty: Are you a moron?
I dont even make the top 15 most active users. lol Check the Most active user list before you try and use insult me with excuses to try and take a jab at me for being offended by my opinions after all thats the real reason Sony fans spite me."

... and then you post the most unreadable garbage I've seen.

None of what you said in your last two posts means a thing anwyays. This is a PS3 related thread. It's a thread about a game you DON'T care about. You don't like the game. You knock the game. You hate the PS3. Why are you here then? You shouldn't have been here to "defend" yourself in the frist place if what you say is true.

I know there are rabid fans of both consoles. I don't condone PS fans ruining Halo threads. They're just as lame as you are.

[Shaka2K6]

x360 can have spliter cell 5 the MGS wanna be.

[00]

their completely different games.

[Maddens Raiders]

that interview that were like, "WHOA". But the most striking statement to me and obviously many others was, "Sorry kids. Your "OMGMGS4360" banners will have to come out another day." Didn't really care whether or not it was multi or not, but to imply that it Couldn't run on the "dvd level" system speaks volume after volume. Damn.

[FordGTGuy]

will reach the critical mass Oblivion did. You guys really shouldn't underestimate the power of compression when you have some very cool technologies like texture synthesis is starting to be used. (That technology allows the replacement of all textures with coding that tells it how to draw the texture except applying the texture. This Technology is currently in used in the XBLA game Roboblitz.)

For all those that think that quality is affected by compression should think again since developers have been able to compress over 50% w/o affecting quality.

BTW the Elder Scrolls on the original Xbox was one of the biggest games on the console. Also the launch games on Xbox 360 are smaller then the last games on the original Xbox and with more techniques and better technology compression and quality will only get better.

[fenderputty]

for MGS4 was the 5.1 Surround Sound.

[Robotz Rule]

So that Xbox/Nintendo fanboys could b*tch a little less about the Playstation 3,I own a Xbox 360 Premium as well.