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Why I didn't adore Final Fantasy XII

Gamer Limit writes: "Big name video game franchises, such as the Final Fantasy series, possess numerous elements that make them the memorable gaming experiences that they are, while also allowing for longevity over the years as additional games are added and competing series spring up. Yet these high standards we set for such games make it all the more disappointing when they, inevitably, fail to meet them."

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Fullish5472d ago

I do, so much better then western RPGs.

AcesAndEights5472d ago

Got bored of Final Fantasy quite a while back, would be nice if they tried to add something new and innovative instead of flogging the dead donkey of an IP.

DA_SHREDDER5472d ago

I think whats killing the genre is the fact they are trying to be so innovative and "adding new things" as you say. They are ruining their games and trying to appease people like you but all they are doing is hurting themselves. If you know anything about games and npd numbers, its all the old school games and remakes that are selling and making a profit. Its all of these new ip's with these broke @ss action elements with crap for story thats gonna kill the genre indefinitely.

Ziriux5472d ago

Only thing I adore about the FF games is the story line.

Dimly5472d ago

You're out of your element, Donnie. FFXII was brilliant.

chrisjc5472d ago

FFXII was probably the worse Final Fantasy in my opinion. Like the author says, it has little personality, outside of the David Bowie look-alike.

TheTwelve5472d ago

FF12, the only Final Fantasy I never finished. Sad that it has the name of my favorite number. Storyline was extremely boring.

12

Heaven_Or_Hell5472d ago

There wasn't a story... obviously -_-

LightofDarkness5472d ago

I loved XII, it had a much more mature storyline and cast, it was almost Shakespearean in scope. Vaan was a poor choice for the lead, Basch was the obvious pick, but other than that I enjoyed it immensely. The combat system was FAR more engaging than previous games. Plus the voice acting was superb (bar Fran).

Speaking of the worst Final Fantasy game, that unkind accolade goes to the steaming pile of whiny angst that was Final Fantasy X. I've never in my life despised a cast of characters as much as I hated those idiots in X. The dialogue was CRINGE worthy.

chrisjc5472d ago

Ack! Haha. FFX was actually my favorite. Despite the poor dialogue (it was their first voice acting effort!), the game is very, very fun. I also thoroughly enjoyed the sphere grid.

mrb3ar5472d ago

Don't let the disagrees get to you, XII was a great game. I wont say it was the best, but I definitely loved it. People saying they didn't finish it should go back and seriously enjoy the game for what it is.

Danja5472d ago

FF 12 was the only FF I have never finished also got to Dr.Cid and got bored not long after that.

The storyline , boring characters except Balthier killed it , the summons sucked , the world wasn't interesting to explore , I actually liked the battle system though.

Final Fantasy 9 still remains the best game in the series , followed by FF X .

pain777pas5471d ago

Balthier should have been the main character in this game. WHy Vaan? Balthier was witty and cool. Vaan was annoying and the princess was cooler than Vaan too.

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SpoonyRedMage5472d ago

XII was good, but not great. It had a lot of trouble in development such as Matsuno's illness which eventually led to him retiring.

I thought they went with the wrong character though, they should have kept Basch as the lead as originally planned or put Reks as the lead. he was way cooler than Vaan.

Tony P5472d ago

I agree absolutely 100% yippy.

What I give FFXII was the gameplay. It's the most fun I've had grinding in a long time.

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Final Fantasy 12 Has The Worst Cid, Says Ben Starr

Clive actor Ben Starr plays kiss, marry, kill with Final Fantasy characters, and decides to off Cid from Final Fantasy 12.

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CrimsonWing6928d ago

I’d give it to 8, but whatevs.

mastershredder28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Ew VO actors and their cringe core. Fiverr voice actors could out perform this chump.

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Final Fantasy XII Is the Perfect Final Fantasy Game to Play After XVI

Final Fantasy XVI makes big changes to the series. It has a new approach to combat and a mature story, that makes XII the perfect game to play after.

Flawlessmic324d ago

It's always a good time to play ff12. But more importantly absolutely everybody that has a ps5 should be playing ff16!!

What a game yoshi p and his team have delivered, we can only hope they have been handed the keys to next main line final fantasy and they can go back to back!!

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GhostScholar323d ago

He turned final fantasy into a 3rd person action game. A good one for sure, but not final
Fantasy.

Flawlessmic323d ago

What is final fantasy?

If your telling me it's turn based/party then people aren't actually final fantasy fans they are mechanic fans of turn based games not final fantasy.

I could point to 20 different reasons why this is a proper final fantasy but going off everyone opinions apparently what makes a final fantasy is the mechanics and nothing else lol.

I guess final fantasy hasn't been final fantasy since X-2.

GhostScholar323d ago

I’m not saying just the turned based aspect makes a game final fantasy or not. It’s not that it’s not turn based only. I don’t like the combat at all in 16. It’s better than 15 for sure, but it just doesn’t feel like a final fantasy game. It reminds me more of the Witcher 3 than final fantasy. The setting, the look of the world. No sci fi aspects.

Flawlessmic322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

i still have to disagree dude, final fantasy games are made up of so much more, they have a certain heart & soul to them that make them easily identifiable and this game has all that heart and soul of a FF game as well ff staples below.

- the music
- chocobos
- moogles
- summons - Super heavy influence
- a grand epic story/ ps. they have done medieveil before like with ff9
- crystals - Super heavy influence
- cid

I mean the fact this game is basically all about crystals and eikons is about as FF as it gets, throw in the rest and i get it being action game may be weird but this is FF game through and through.

in terms of Sci fi, id say your probably still very early on in the game.

This is coming from an old school FF fan.

Terry_B324d ago

I also recommend Devil May Cry 3-5 if you liked FF16 a lot.

MrNinosan323d ago

Played them all, and no... Not at all like FFXVI except parts of the combat

Gardenia322d ago

I don't know if this is serious or sarcasm, but it says a lot of what Final Fantasy has become.

lucian229323d ago

ff12 was the worst ff imo; no character was unique because of the class system, so in cutscenes no character had an assigned weapon; they were all different skins of one another; the game played itself, the main character wasn't the main character and it was just a big eh

Nacho_Z323d ago

I think I preferred 12 to 13 but I agree with your assessment. It was very bland and not much fun to play.

lucian229323d ago

i liked 13 combat wise, and i think story wise, but then i really liked the 2nd game, and lightning returns was....odd but i liked it.

MrNinosan323d ago

Sounds like you were late to FFXII and only played Zodiac edition.

FFXII is a great game, still today, and with Zodiac, it became even better.

lucian229321d ago

nope lol i got ff12 at launch

GhostScholar323d ago

Final fantasy 7 remake is better than 16 in every way

lucian229321d ago

not at all; while i love my ff7, ff16 is epic constantly; no game has epic battles the way this one does

Tapani28d ago

The Zodiac edition was absolutely superb. Top 5 final fantasies, up there with 4, 6, 7 and Tactics.

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MadLad323d ago

Still the last one I really enjoyed.
Series is just all over the place anymore and, while people like the new arpg gameplay, it doesn't do anything for me.

goldwyncq323d ago

The world is the real star of XII. I didn't care about the character nor the story but the worldbuilding was excellent.

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Final Fantasy XII director shoots down 17-year rumor about the game's main character

First, the rumor itself. When Final Fantasy XII originally launched in 2006, plenty of players were left disappointed by protagonist Vaan, who many deemed to be dull and apathetic. From this, a rumor sprang forth than companion Basch was originally meant to be the protagonist of Final Fantasy XII, but was switched out of the role at the last minute.

This rumor has gained traction ever since, to the point where multiple outlets have reported it as fact, and Final Fantasy XII’s Wikipedia page (opens in new tab) even mentions it as part of the game's development. Now though, years after the rumor originated, original Final Fantasy XII director and scenario writer Yasumi Matsuno has stepped in to quash the rumor.

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Hofstaderman388d ago

I'm still convinced Vaan and Penelo were placed in the game as a last minute decision.

-Foxtrot388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

It does feel like that tbh

It's why even though the theory has been shot down I can see why people came up with and believed it.

It makes sense

Vaan was there for the younger audience and to me that seems like a last minute development decision.

gold_drake388d ago (Edited 388d ago )

ok that doesnt change the fact that Vaan is the least intresting and biggest waste of a main character in the franchise.

like Penelo and Vaan are literally just there, to be there. any other character has more purpose haha.

Becuzisaid388d ago

We all know Balthier and Fran were the mains the whole time lol.

FinalFantasyFanatic388d ago

The characters and writing for this game, just wasn't good, I have a hard time believing that there wasn't some major changes at some point (do writers just not leave notes for each other if one of them gets sick or leaves?).

SegaSaturn669388d ago

I enjoy the gameplay a lot but tend to agree, the soundtrack was not memorable to me at all, either. Which is weird because the composer also did FFT which was tremendous.

FinalFantasyFanatic387d ago

I always think of Uematsu when I think of the FF franchise, but most of his music is pretty iconic, unfortunately I didn't get to play FFT (hopefully it ends up with a Steam release in the near future).

RedDevils388d ago

Back then I like the gameplay, but I just don't like the story enough to enjoy it as X.

GoodGuy09388d ago

It was obvious Vaan was of little importance. His brother or Balthier should've been the MC. They've already told us that Vaan was chosen just so the game can appeal to younger audiences. But well that's square for ya, always trying to appeal to the masses rather than just do what they really want to do and favor core fans.

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