Kojima Takes Countdown Clocks To Their Absurd Conclusion

- Analysing the page's source code via Flash, it seems that the current countdown on the site is but one of five clocks that will run on the site over the next few weeks. Absolutely absurd, yes, and PR companies, know it's an abhorrent practice, but what's interesting about this is that the fifth one runs out on June 1. Or, the day of Microsoft's E3 press conference (Sony's is a day later, on June 2).

[sonarus]

OMG Konami countdown ends on June 1st same day as Microsoft E3 announcement. Its gonna happen guys its finally gonna happen *crying* i'm so happy

[GWAVE]

It's sad, because if MGS4 is announced for 360 at E3, it will be TEH BIGGEST NEWZ EVAR OMG PS3 IS DEAD! Even though it's a year-old game and the PS3 is showing off Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Heavy Rain, etc.

It's sad because the media will probably fixate on the year-old game (which is an awesome game, by the way) and act as if it's a death-blow to the PS3 instead of focusing on new games.

[SL1M DADDY]

It doesn't surprise me though. they are head of the Xbox Defense Force in their wishes. Somebody needs to tell them that if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

[40cal]

I still think that it is going to be Metal Gear Solid 4 "Sub" whatever.

Solid 2 Substance, Solid 3 Subsistence, Solid 4 SuB???. It makes sense to me.

[Euphrate]

Idiot website gives us stupid articles for hits.

[Quickstrike]

the timer reaches into next week?

[Panthers]

The best thing that M$ EVER has to show it seems is getting games that are already on or coming to the PS3.

[fishd]

"They're simply ignoring the time difference between Japan and America. To put this in perspective, this update to the site was made on 5/18 (according to the ad in Famitsu, the code in the .swf file, etc), but it occurred on 5/17 for those of us in America. The same will happen with the final frame: it will appear on 6/1 for the Japanese and 5/31 for the Americans."

[Quickstrike]

again I would like the point out the FACT that the timer doesn't even make it to this Saturday, let alone next week.

[peeps]

It may be a 1 year old game but MGS2:Substance came out almost exactly a year after MGS2...

I do agree with what you say though, and would be a shame for MGS4:Something to steal the show rather than a new ip or progression in a franchise.

I'm still not sure though. I mean there obv have been MGS games that have gone to microsofts console, but i really do think Blu-ray is a big factor that will prevent it appearing on the 360. I imagine when they brought out Substance, it was always planned and they always wanted to do it. If the same would be true about MGS4:something, i doubt the game would have featured the little ps3 quirks such as the ps3 controller for mkII, the blu-ray reference, the mantis reference etc etc

[Gothdom]

I'm going with Quickstrike on this one and I'll wait 'til friday to see what's happening.

What kotaku is making is speculating on speculation. I mean, what if the flash and sourcecode is changed on the 21st?

on a side note, Kotaku sucks, stop giving them hits.

[BrunoM]

Humm these news is wrong and right .. lol

it does finish on the 1st but it finish on the first at the 24h mark so in other words the second lol

We just reached the heart of the storm. Now we still have 3 patterns to experience before the !. The storm could progress over the next four days and change accordingly. If it does follow that trend, it'll end with the ! and we should get an announcement. Of course, it could also be that the thunderstorm lasts the next four days and then we have another four days of rain, followed by another four days of light rain, and then four days of sun. Ironically, that would bring us to June 2, the same day as both the Nintendo and Sony E3 conferences

[SL1M DADDY]

What game on the Xbox 360 do we see so many articles about claiming that there is a rumored port to the PS3? None you say? Why is that?

[Lifendz]

If no, why are you happy? I thought you owned a PS3 and already beat MGS4 on it?

Anyway, if it's true then good for 360 owners that waited this long to get the game and refused to pick up a PS3. Bad part is you're still going to miss out on the multitude of Sony in-house exclusives but at least you get a year old game to play...finally. It was one of the best games I've ever played.

Let's start the over/under on discs for MGS4 on 360. I start it at 3. What'dya think? Less than 3 or more than 3?

Oh yeah, and if it does come to 360 the PS3 owners darn well better get a trophy patch.

[Aquanox]

There are 16 hours of difference between Los Angeles (E3) and Tokyo (Kojima's Website timer)

However, nobody knows what the final flash would be. It could as well be a different, shorter timer of some form that points to MS Conference (The subsequent timers are shorter than the olders). What is almost sure is that it's not going to go further than June 1st. So chances for it pointing to Sony's Conference on June 2nd are very scarce.

Even if this is a reality, I doubt it will be a MGS4 or MGS5 announcement for the Xbox 360 (That 5 makes it too obvious) but instead, a different multiplatform project.

It would be too of a low blow from a third party to announce a big game excluding the Xbox 360 just hours before Microsoft's conference starts. Not that it's going to steal any thunder from it since the focus now lays on the multiple exclusive titles, but I don't think Konami is interested in degrading the relationship between them and Microsoft.

Anything is possible though. I'm just speculating and giving some info.

[bushfan]

look. kataku say the "5" mean 5 clock, already the site show the first one right..i know that the first day the site was showing the countdown from 99 hours..

the first countdown in end may 21.
the second one in end may 25
the third one in end may 30
the forth one in end jun 3
and the fifth one in jun 7

[Shadow Flare]

If mgs4 comes to xbox 360 (it's not going to happen) then i will love to see how they fit 35gb of game onto a dvd9. How many discs. . . . . This year is turning into a comedy for the 360. I'm already looking forward to how the hell they will make FF13 work on the 360. And they know they have no games this year so they have to turn to playstation to help then out, once again.

And for those xbox fans who never owned a ps2, you think you'll understand mgs4? This is not a game for people just begging for a good game this year. This is a game for Metal Gear Solid fans. And you'd be getting the inferior version at that. But thats if the game comes to 360. Which it isn't.

[menoyou]

What's really sad is the biggest game 360 will ever have is a year old port from a PS3 game. lol

[Shadow Flare]

That's not sad, it's understandable.

[Stinkinmushroom]

kotaku = morons

the timer is japanese...

1st june Japan = 31st May in LA ( where E3 is)

[I did not murder him]

Two weeks ago microsoft said pay close attention to what's around this month before e3. The reason the teaser didn't show much because this game will by hyped in a series of changes to the teaser site/footage.

[Graphics]

It's definitely not MGS4, I know for a fact. But all you idiots can keep dreaming.. It's ok to dream.

[IaMs12]

I would very much like to point out that PS3 owners got a year old game as well, uh Bioshock which is an amazing game. SO whats wrong with the 360 getting a year old game. Oh didnt PS3 get Oblivion a year later too?

[Sarcasm]

I heard Kojima once shook hands with a gamer, who happened to own an xbox360.

MGS4 ON THE 360 CONFIRMED!!!

[PirateThom]

Yes, it sure does run out on June 1st, in Japan.

Which would make it May 31st, in America.

So?

[sonarus]

common man have faith. After all those super confirmed MGS4 on 360 rumors this has to be it

[LightofDarkness]

I do believe he just called you common, PirateThom :P

[PirateThom]

Well, I already figured out that April 2007 is when Jack met Rose.

[Alcohog]

You can forget about April 2007 having anything to do with it. It has been confirmed that that background is simply recycled from a wallpaper advertising the movie Grindhouse, and that date is left from it.

[PirateThom]

I would discount nothing when it comes to Kojima. Don't forget, he is a big fan of American movies, and the April 2007 is relevent to the Metal Gear series.

[DarK-SilV]

Why do disagree with sonarus? he is being sarcastic, here have a bubble

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Microsoft press event happens at a certain time regardless of what local clocks say (i.e. It is happening June 1 here AND May 31 in Japan). Whatever the announcement is, though, i don't expect it would be 360 exclusive, probably a late 2010 multiplatform release, or a re-release of MGS4 a la MGS3: Subsistence.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Maybe i'm missing something, but when you have a countdown, it counts down to the same moment no matter where you are. Has anyone figured out exactly when, Pacific time (where E3 is held), the countdown will end, though? The article says June 1, but not a time. Some people here have said June 2, but not a time. Does it end when the MS event starts, or three hours before, or five hours later?

[Sarcasm]

You want Super Confirmed?

Rumor has it, that Kojima's uncles sisters grandmas niece's 2nd husband's brother has a 360.

MGS4 ON THE 360 CONFIRMED!!!

[valanceer]

even if it does happen to be the same day as micro$ofts press event... its also the day E3 starts so its just for E3.... you seriously that dumb? mgs4 will never come to the 360

[the new king 74]

next gen zone of the enders!

[ShabzS]

kojima must be enjoying watching you guys play detective eh

[MetalGearBear]

not again!!! DAMMIT on N4G.

[Blackcanary]

i only want a new next gen Zone of the Enders is that to much to ask for.

[360isgreat]

When your life has come to the point where you are going through source code for a gaming website trying to figure out what the count down is for, you have officially lost your way in life... Not only do you need to get off the computer, you need to unplug and go take a vacation around people and no electronics.

Its frankly not that important not to mention im sure they will tell us in a few weeks anyhow... So WTF? Get a life. About as sorry as i am writing all this nonsense.

[Pennywise]

Leave them alone. They want a year old watered down port. They dont care about how much Kojima was harassed for making a "Glorified Movie with some game play".... They want it.

[fuckoffodion]

what do you expect.

[Snake Raiser]

Attention as usual. I mean, I know that we can't know until E3, but this whole 5 clocks thing seems like just attention. I really wouldn't take it as 100% fact. When do the others run out?

[ultimolu]

Can we just wait? Seriously, is that so hard?

[TheBand1t]

Why wait when you can speculate?

[ultimolu]

Why speculate when assumptions could be wrong?

[Xulap]

Why care if the assumptions could be wrong when you can keep speculating?

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

"Don't hate, appreciate" - Mike Epps.

[Tito Jackson]

WHEN YOU CAN APPRECIATE?

[Qui-Gon Jim]

But appreciation requires some level of knowledge, but hatred can be blind. Hate is easier.

[VasiliasNtaHs]

whatever this game might actually be, it is hyped before we know ANYTHING about it, other than it comes from Kojima productions. Look at all those rumors. This has to be the best marketing strategy ever conceived.

[rhood022]

Well, we had the Snake Story missions for MGS 2 re-release that showed what he was doing before Raiden came to Big Shell. It wouldn't surprise me if THAT is what this will be with Raiden (as many have speculated). It would make sense to do it on a "Subsistence" type re-release though, but a standalone release wouldn't be too far fetched.

Theoretically, if it were a small enough game (say 5-6 hours), it could be a multiplat title. I figure with the cutscenese and what not, it could release as a 3 or 4 disk set on the 360. Again, theoretically.

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The fact that one countdown ends on the same day as the MS E3 press conference could mean something--or it could (and very likely) is Kojima's sense of humor getting the better of the fanboys. Remember the MGST teaser with the Green power button?

[tha_meat_beater]

the bots dont need a metal gear game. the 360 is more of a weapon of mass destruction than a metal gear ever could be,

[Darrius Cole]

LMAO

(Visualizes Ocelot saying, "Behold the latest and most powerful Metal Gear....Metal Gear Box.")

[OmarJA]

Metal Gear Solid 5 The Movie

There you go...

[cronaldo7]

Let's wait. Game Of Honor will contact Kojima Productions.

[Cyb3r]

If MGS4 were to come to the 360 it would definitely be a dumbed down compared to the PS3 version. I mean how could they make a game that weighs 50GB work on a 8.5GB DVD?

[II Necroplasm II]

That's why it won't come to the 360.

[Kurylo3d]

they can do that by actually compressing the textures :) and have the game look EXACTLY the same... seeing as though the graphics card compresses the textures and all that stuff.. lol... really no need to have uncompressed information.. its like the difference of a 50mb .wav and a 3 mb mp3... there is no difference to the human ear.

Matter of fact the game could even look better on the 360, seeing as though the graphics card has more texture memory and supports more shaders... compared to ps3... with its weaker graphics card... and 100 bottlenecks in its hardware. And i for one was not a fan of having to do an instillation for every level with the ps3... thats just lame... i bout the ps3 for this game, but htat annoyed the hell out of me... i bet on a 360 that wouldnt be necessary.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

I want Mass Effect to stay on 360.I want MGS to stay on PS3..I want DOA to stay on 360.And Tekken to stay on PS3. But. . . . .this isnt about what I want :(

[PirateThom]

I actually do agree, it was only last gen when exclusive games were plentiful and took advantage of specific hardware, this gen has seen a sharp downturn in the third party exclusive. Sony predicted it, too, hence all the first party games they've been pumping out.

There really are less and less reasons to own multiple consoles, which is a shame.

[KilZoneGeneralStrife]

devs wont build two game engines from the ground up,so we the consumers get screwed over.why must one or any of us suffer? We're all gamers here,and new games cost the same hard cold cash for the 360 and ps3.

[militant07]

80hrs = around 3 days

3+18 = 21 more likly a week earlier ?
or i am mistaken

[militant07]

oh i got it ,it will run 5 more times ??

[Lucreto]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Am I the only one who think this is a bit off? From what I see someone could copy and paste this and change the dates and make it so just to spark rumors all over again.

There is another rumor that the cloud, rain, sun, ! thing each 4 days and that ends on 2nd of June Sonys conference or Nintendo conference.

We all know what Kojima is like. It might be the 1st June but he plans it from that day just to get 360 fanboys all riled up. Just like the iphone game.or on the 1st of June another timer will appear for 24 hours.

don't tant anything for granted. I seen stories that FFVII remake will be announced on the 2nd of June at Sony's conference. The evidence is that Advent Children complete is also released that day.

[Shadow Man]

This is our reward for the crap we Bots put up, like RROD constant comments, and "we have no games", but we do.

This is Karma for you droids.

MGS is finally here.

Cool of true.
:D

[Qui-Gon Jim]

the "crap" you've put up with is payment for all the "crap" PS3 fans have had to put up with like, "PS3 has no games," or "Everything on 360 is better."

[ssipmraw]

lol judgement day

the day all 360s decide to rebel against their users by getting rrod

[Socomer 1979]

Go that a way.
I cant wait to for those tears.
Im gonna create a new mgs4 rumor every 2 months because I love to see you guys get crushed over and over again.
hee hee !

[Shadow Man]

Your such a jerk!!!!!!!

I hate you!!!!

[ssipmraw]

that is such a good idea lol

[josh14399]

enough of metal gear alredy its old i want somthing new like a totally new ip for ps3

[caffman]

and therefore no, I don't want it on my xbox.

[AliC]

June First website updates

" METAL GEAR ZONE OF ENDERS SOLID 3"

Followed by a Video of Kojima laughing saying "Did you like?!?"

[jay2]

This is a bad sign.............

[Qui-Gon Jim]

Remember, Kojima is a master of the mindf***, so don't trust anything you think you know about this.

If there is any truth to this report, though, my guess is this: MGS5 (or Metal Gear Raiden) announced at Microsoft's event as a multiplatform release (like GTA IV was) for late 2010.

[Bobbie001]

Thats not true, than it would run out on June 2, not June 1.
Do the math you morons

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Kotaku just forgot that Konami has their own conference in E3 too. Last year it was a day later than Sony conference. You know what it changed? You guessed it... Nothing!

Just get a PS3 and stop being delusional Kotaku.

[naiku]

You idiots should first count and not listen to Kotaku, it ends June 2 morons...

[dogmeat eater]

There I solve the mystery.

[Monkey D Luffy]

But in America, it's the 17th, not the 18th. So in America wouldn't the countdown end on May 31st, not June 1st?

Courtesy to Shurs in NEOGAF

[PirateThom]

I already mentioned this, that's why I think Kojima is going to do his own thing and announce whatever it is before E3 and then let Konami show it off more at their press conference.

It's a Japanese company, who teased this in a Japanese magazine, which started at the start of a Japanese business day.

[Monkey D Luffy]

I see.

[lewis]

why wou;d the countdown be fore that. WT F PEOPLE. mgs4 on 360 would suck and at this link of the countdown theirs a 5 in the background.

im not a fanboy!!!!
http://www.konami.jp/kojima...

[foozen]

a port of the iphone mgs to 360! That'll fit on the 360 just??? ;)

Don't like the use of next (next, x, xbox) in the meta tags of the site. That is the cryptic word. It won't be MGS4 unless they rework out the PS3 bits within the game. It will be no doubt a sell out across the platforms of MGS. Being a bit loyal to Playstation (Tomb Raider and MGS were the reasons for me buying a console) it will be a shame and feel a bit of sell out if MGS went multi plat. They never work as good as they have to always work to lowest common demontantor and that will be DVD! Time to move on it seems. God loved it when Octocon screamed snake, Snake, SNAKE!!!!!

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[JeffGUNZ]

Who cares what the h*ll it is. All this is doing is hyping something that no one really knows WHAT it is. Who cares if it's MGS4 coming to 360. Who cares what it is. There is about 500 of these articles showing a smudge on the screen someone misinterpret as an after shock of a grenade that blew up from metal gear solid 1. The more we keep posting nonsense about this announcement the more BS articles are going to flood this site. E3 is about 2 weeks away, just wait and then see. Everyone is getting worked up over nothing, it's sad. Guys, it's still just VIDEO GAMES.

[Ziggazee]

Wow if 360 get this game it wil be awesome!! Itz the best game this gen so far and needs to be experienced by more people, and personaly i think mgo is better than cod4 online! Wow i hope 360 gets it.. Really its such a epic game, blows me away every time i play it.

[shawnsl65]

Twisters and Tornadoes. A storm is coming.
This is what i came up with.

5 = MG5

Stormy background, lightning = God of thunder = Raiden

I'm still hoping it's a new IP, doesn't seem like it though.

[Mizz_mai]

isnt this getting old....i thought 360 owners didn't need MGS4...?? I thought they were happy with their AAA titles like too human,banjo,kameo,viva pinata.......lol

[Mr_Luke]

Wow, the other thay it was "on Sony's E3" today is M$. I'm not counting cause i don't care, but really, 50% of the news is about this. It starts being VERY annoying. I start looking for a site where i can read news and interesting things, not stupid rumor x100...