E3, PS3, and You

Gamer Limit writes: "I'm certain that you've heard all about the rumors about the slim Playstation 3, but we all know that Sony is losing at least $40.00 per Playstation 3 that it sells. So the question is this: Will we find ourselves with a new model for the PS3? Will Sony announce the PSP Go!? Will MAG be a megaton? Let's theorize on all these questions and more!"

[chrisjc]

All I want is a new MGS, and I will be happy with the PS3 at E3. Oh, and Zone of the Enders 3. All I know is, the PS3 is looking to have the best lineup of 2009 by far.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

All I want is a release date for GT5.

[TheExecutive]

We will see GT5 at E3 :). New ICO, the psp go and more. This years e3 is going to be kind to sony :)...

[blackbeld]

Agree...

ZOE for PS3 will be Great!!!!

[anh_duong]

steven kelso looks just like a demented offspring of aaron greenberg and gabe newell.. who ate all the pies..

http://gamerlimit.com/wp-co...

http://ecetia.com/wp-conten...

seriously the comment:

"I don’t own a PS3 yet, I' AM WAITING FOR THAT “MUST HAVE” game and a price drop."

says it all about the author.. if killzone, mgs 4, lbp, resistance 2, infamous, motorstorm, demon soul, warhawk, uncharted etc etc aren't good enough for you then please i rather you not even buy a ps3..

please sony don't ever cut the ps3 price because it would attract people like steven kelso on psn..

good i hate stupid people like him.. a million monkey with a million keyboard.. trash

[sniper-squeak]

u sounded like Sev then lol... I had to look at ur avatar twice :)
hopefully GT5 will be sighted at E3... I like that game... lol :D

[Lifendz]

KZ2 dropped and blew my mind. MLB09 the show is friggin awesome. Infamous looks to continue to amaze. That's three AAA games before June. Then after June it doesn't stop with Sony's in-house games and the 3rd party games. So yeah, I'm good. Anything announced is a bonus. What I don't get is why so many people that already own a PS3 are concerned with a price drop. Unless you own stock in Sony, what's the point? The system is doing well enough and if you look at the numbers worldwide and not just in the US (shocking for some of you, I know) you'll see that Sony is actually beating the 360 in units moved on a consistent basis. Heck, last year the PS3 sold the same as the 360 worldwide despite being 200.00 bucks more. Add to that the fact that the PS2 continues to put up big numbers and you have a very well situated company.

So relax guys. Order a pizza, pick up some beverages, and get ready for the best 3 days to be a hardcore gamer.

@pixelsword: taking traffic away from these types of sites deserves a bubble imo.

[pixelsword]

I’m certain that you’ve heard all about the rumors about the slim Playstation 3, but we all know that Sony is losing at least $40.00 per Playstation 3 that it sells. So the question is this: Will we find ourselves with a new model for the PS3? Will Sony announce the PSP Go!? Will MAG be a megaton? Let’s theorize on all these questions and more!

We first must realize that almost everything about Sony is a different sort of beast. It doesn’t matter if they want to admit it or not, but they are dead last in the console sales race right now. Some months the Playstation 2 sells more than it’s big brother, and that has to be a slight disappointment. Although I am sure every PS2 sold at this point is pure profit at this point.

My first peice of advice for Sony moving forward is to forget about the past, and strive towards a profitable future. The economy is no joke, and an expensive console is not going to sell as well as the consoles that cost $199.99 or $249.99. They’ve got to realize this. Yes the PS3 is a Blu-ray player, and yes the PS3 has some good games now, but it is still expensive. I don’t know if this will happen via the slim, or just happen, but they’ve got to figure out how to drop the price and push more units out the door.

Perhaps this new slim model is real, and it will be officially announced at Sony’s E3 press conference on June the 2nd, 2009. Perhaps through extensive research they’ve discovered how to make their console cheaper, and they’re going to offer it to the public later on in the summer and totally phase out the old ones. On the other side of the coin it could be fake, and there is nothing to be announced.

Perhaps we should get beyond new consoles, and even new handhelds. The PSP Go! is a done deal, it’s coming. There is too much outside confirmation calling it real. Like I said, let’s get beyond games and go where it matters: software.

The first exclusive killer-app for the Playstation 3 must be InFamous. You ask any of the hardcore crowd and they’re picking it up as soon as they can. It’s exclusive, and it’s good. It’s a must have title that could potentially push the sales of consoles. Sony needs to announce more games like this at their press conference. They need Massive Action Game to work, and work right. They need it to be a AAA title, and it must have high review scores. If it becomes an “everybody must have it” PS3 game, then everyone will want it. They need to show it off, show that it works, and confirm the release date.

Oh, and for all the fanboy’s crying out because Microsoft pays for exclusives? It works. Sony? DO IT! I mean, c’mon folks? Get with the picture. Is it ethical? If you paid for it. Is it annoying? Yes it is. Should it be done? Probably not. Does it work? Yes, it does. Make some investments, Sony. You’ve been at this longer than Microsoft, and you’ve lost your exclusivity. Square-Enix is not able to save you anymore, and Metal Gear Solid 4 is going to end up on the Xbox 360.

There is one last thing that Sony really needs to figure out how to do, and somehow make this a part of E3. You need a face that interacts with the public. When I think people at Microsoft I think about Major Nelson. When I think about Nintendo I think about Reggie. When I think about Sony I think about no one. At all. This is a problem. The hardcore crowd needs a face.

All in all Sony, the ball is in your court. You’ve got choices to make, and a game plan to execute. How you do it will be all up to you. This is just what I think ought to happen. Oh, and I don’t own a PS3 yet, I’m waiting for that awesome “must-have” game and a price drop.

One more thing? Bundle in a damn headset.

[Shadow Flare]

Well john koller from scea recently said that this years e3 will be the most important one for sony in 11 years. So do the math. When you add up all the rumours you've heard, the confirmed showings and then john koller's statement, then you know this years e3 belongs to sony. And that this is going to put ps3 on a very good road for the future

[Adolf Hitler]

All I want is for Sony to release some awesome games.....oh wait they already have :).

[Acquiesc3]

I agree with pixel sword. The ps3 doesn't need any saving, it's doing just fine. Heck, it's doing just fine even without square-enix right now. It's a lame article made just to get hits.

[Sarcasm]

"All I want is a release date for GT5."

YES, That.

[Sarcasm]

"When I think people at Microsoft I think about Major Nelson."

Actually, when I think about Microsoft I think of punching Aaron Greenburg in the face.

Maybe I'll take a trip down south, look for him at E3, punch him in the face, and go home.

[thesummerofgeorge]

and I'm happy. Preferably in a stage demo of the game or something.

[creatchee]

Unfortunately, none of those games (killzone, mgs 4, lbp, resistance 2, infamous, motorstorm, demon soul, warhawk, uncharted) are "system-sellers" with the exception of MGS4. That's not to say that they aren't great games, but MGS4 is the only one that spiked the PS3's sales noticeably.

Now I know people are of the "sales don't matter" ideal, but if any of those games were to entice people on the fence about a PS3, you would have seen larger spikes on PS3 console sales as well as larger sales of the games themselves. MGS4 is the only game that you mentioned to qualify in that category. Hell, I bought my PS3 for MGS4. I've bought and enjoyed other games, but that game was the system seller for me. The others would not have persuaded me to shell out my $400.

[heyheyhey]

well that article was a waste of time.. what was the point?

[syvergy]

It was an editorial, an opinion. That's why its an article, not gaming news.

[Gothdom]

I can't believe I gave the site a hit. This article is full of typos and repetition. "peice"?! "this point is pure profit at this point."?!

Learn to write properly!

[MetalGearBear]

I want God of War 3 release date!!!
I want next MGS or DLC. Hurry Up E3!!!!

[TheExecutive]

there will be a playable demo at e3.

[jmare]

Piss and moan. That's all this guy did.

EDIT: Yes, he did piss. He pissed out his brain through his fingertips and left it on the internet for all to see.

[Milky Joe]

He actually took a piss? Why would you post that sort of thing on the internet??? Surely no one would be interested in that...

[StephanieBBB]

Biased media?

[Barreldragon00]

Instead of just complaining why don't you go out and find some more 360 stories instead of complaining of the lack of them.

[mastiffchild]

That wasn't steffs point really was it? I think it was that this kind of article about anyone is pointless and that sony get more than their fair share. What would compounding the error by finding someone being unfair to the 360 do?

Personally the biggest mistake would be if Sony found anyone like Reggie OR Major Nelson-they both hold back their platform of choice and we'd all be better off without them. Esp Reggie-any man who looks like that and thinks Animal Crossing is "teh hardcorz!!" frightens me no end!

[chrisjc]

@mastiff
I think the point of the article was just getting you hyped up for E3. I didn't get the sense that he loathed Sony in any way.

[Kyur4ThePain]

"but they’ve got to figure out how to drop the price and push more units out the door."

Really? You came up with that all by yourself?
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they're doing.

[blackbeld]

PS3 price cut.....

And the bots will be quiet....

Microsoft will come with the white flag...

[AngryTypingGuy]

PS3 price cut...

And Sony will be losing more than $40 per PS3 sold, and the 360 will continue to do just fine, especially when they lower the price even further.

[II Necroplasm II]

Why would sony want to lose all that money added up with every PS3 sold? So they can move more consoles soon?

Nice wishful thinking though, I give ya that..

[Sibs]

Yea, I hope Sony drops the price of the PS3 soon so I can get a free Xbox 360... they will obviously start giving them away at that point, right? :D

[blackbeld]

@ AngryTypingGuy^^^^ Agree...+Bubbles :)

But Sony have enough money too do so...

This is a quick way to end this console war...

[Mr Fancy Pants]

LoL yeah...!

Because the X360 only cost like 3 dollars to make right AngryTypingGuy? That's whu MS will sell the X360 at $100 per console.

[ikkeweer]

wow, I thought production costs per console were lower than $40.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

MS has already made clear despite have a $199 SKU the Premium at $299 is still the most sold model and that unit does have some room for a price drop.

It could get really interesting if they get into a price war. Funny how Sony gave MS crap for the multiple SKU's but now seem to be scrambling to introduce a new SKU to bring the price down. If these rumors are true.

MS is expecting a PS3 price cut at E3 according to their exec's and I think they have a plan to counter if Sony does.

Going to be a great E3 and I'm sure Sony will deliver the goods.

[n4gn4gn4gn4g]

STOP STEALING MY DOWNLOAD LIMIT WITH SH1T ARTICLES. I WANT MY 200KB BACK.

[-x.Red.x-]

+ bubbles

[Memo-Xen x3100]

PS3 price drop‚ New Metal Gear, Trophies for MGS4, Tons of new GOW3 media, Twisted Metal.

[Shadow Man]

to the 360.

I remember that if you believe in something and have a little faith it comes true.

[Mr Fancy Pants]

Hey that's a Naruto quote? Are you a Narutard?

[ikkeweer]

it came, it saw, it ran like lightning (rings of fire tend to turn snakes into kittens)

[saimcheeda]

always have silly dreams!!!!

[ultimolu]

....*shakes head and heads back to RE5*

[pixelsword]

According to someone who works at sony.

I have to find the article now to verify.

[DRUDOG]

That's where the numbnut article writer got his $40 loss per unit number from. 10% of $400 would be $40. The Yen conversion came out roughly to the same amount.

[Campy da Camper]

and an empty wallet. I sat down last night and wrote out exactly how many games are coming out in the next year that I want to buy. I'm in the hole about $400. If I drop lunch from the diet and substitute Cup-O-Noodles for every other dinner I can swing it. And that is no problem for me!

[ikkeweer]

but I expect people that pretend that they are, to atleast own the consoles they comment on.
Actually I expect them to own every game-playing device. Because that makes me believe I'm dealing with people who know what theyre talking about

[mac4u10]

stupid artical..pure 360 fanboy..get a life!

[shmahat]

Sony's just so desperate for the advise of a wanna be journalist who hasn't bothered to learn decent grammar. yeah, and I'm sure the advise from someone who ignores reality is very precious. it's getting a bit boring the way, every time, sony's got a new exclusive coming out and its as if their past games didn't happen. "oh sorry no THIS is the killer app we've been waiting for and haven't received yet, even though I'm the same twat who was bigging up the last one".

[DNAgent]

Gamers.

Specifically gamers who have a PS3.

In other words...Sony.

[TheMART]

But you're just a mad locked up moron. So what you 'know' is a joke and its all in your head no reality.

[DNAgent]

Why do you even bother trying to argue against it?

[xtreampro_REVENGE]

What you idiots don't know is that if Sony comes out with a price cut in the form of a slim PS3 its going to sell like mad and they wont loose any money at all

[TheMART]

Well it can't be 'just' a price cut.

If Sony want to start selling the same targetgroup the PS2 bought, they need to get to 249 at the higest, 150 to 199 would be optimal. But I don't see them cutting the price with 50 to max 100 bucks.

At 299 they still won't sell that much better.

Plus, they really need to get GT5 out for European fans. If Microsoft this Christmas taps into that targetgroup that is waiting forever for GT5 + a payable console around 200 bucks then a lot is lost if Forza 3 with great features and graphics plus a deal for Christmas with a 200 or less costing 360 is right in front of them.

Don't know about God of War III. Us gamers want it badly, but God of War II only sold about 3 mln. copies on the PS2 while 100 to 120+ mln. PS2's were out there. Doesn't seem to be a system seller at all, or a selling game at all. It sold to 3% of all its users at the most. Thats pretty sad.

[FFXI101]

Can't say I agree with you, Mart. Consider PS3's price is highest on the market, they still manage to sold about 23+ mil units. (You gotta give them credit for it)

Besides there're still lots people who would like to own one and/or people who already has a 360 but wants to own both systems, is likly to wait for the price drop too. That with PS3's game line up, I can see they selling really well this year(from the time they announce price drop till this holiday season)

We just have to wait and see what they(Sony)'ll bring to the E3.

[Dimly]

Another opinion goes up in flames on the internet. Good thing everyone's opinion about the writer's opinion matters even more. ;D

[ikkeweer]

I took articles posted here as gaming-journalism, not opinion.
I see that's my bad now, but common it can't be that hard to write an unbiased article with a wee bit of gaming-knowledge.
I honestly rate a lot of people's comments on here higher then I do the article itself.
And thats in general, not this article (pretty much every comment on here I rate higher then this article)

[Marceles]

"but we all know that Sony is losing at least $40.00 per Playstation 3 that it sells"

No we don't know nor do we care nor does the article writer even know.

"There is one last thing that Sony really needs to figure out how to do, and somehow make this a part of E3. You need a face that interacts with the public."

No YOU need a face that interacts with the public, because this http://gamerlimit.com/wp-co... isn't working out to well for you.

[chrisjc]

Haha, that's a funny picture of the author. It's nice to see that some writers have a sense of humor.

Thanks for the seriousness! It really contributed to the conversation!

[stevedawonder]

That picture was taken shortly after my wife smashed wedding cake onto my face. She thought it was cute. I can't believe you don't.

[chaserooniman]

Is it really necessary to attack the writer directly? At least keep the insults about his appearance to yourself and comment on the article instead.

[TheLaughingMan]

This article was written on the basis of rumors pretty sad. Price cut? I'd keep paying 400 for a ps3. Do people forget that its worth more then that? you get what you pay for with a 360. The worst failure rate in a system ever.
And whats this #%$@ still about MGS4 for the 360?!? That game came out last year and everyone is still whining over it?? I thought you guys had these amazing titles like Gears of War and Halo. Why do you need MGS so bad? We don't give f#@% about your titles coming over.

[zoneofenders]

"I don’t own a PS3 yet, I' AM WAITING FOR THAT “MUST HAVE” game and a price drop."

completely agree. PS3 has no gamez. god damn sony... when will you release some good games?
/sarcasm

[chrisjc]

The author was joking. KZ2 is universally accepted as the "must have game", along with many others.

[ForROME]

I like this article

SONY has no face, price is a problem, broken online community

sigh: come on SONY!

[stevedawonder]

Hah! ...Shall I write something on the Xbox 360 next?

[stevedawonder]

Oh, and for those asking about the forty dollars per PS3?

http://www.destructoid.com/...

[ikkeweer]

I'll give you a bubble for that link, but I seriously doubt that the production costs for one PS3 are over $400 after selling 23 million of them.

EDIT: and even if so, they cost EUR400 here, shouldn't that cover the $40 loss (1€ being 1.35$), considering europe is their bigger market.

omfg, I'm talking sales-figures now, thats the sign of being on N4G too much. I swear I still love my games though

[Lord Kesselroy]

My prediction:

MAG's release will be just like SOCOM's release.

Servers will be overwhelmed, there will be tons of bugs, peoples stats will not get recorded properly. This is classic. And it will also not sell 2 million copies after 6 months. Meaning another epic fail.

If only PS3 fanboys would buy the very games they trumpet in the forums.

Remember Killzone 2? Yeah, allegedly had preorders of over 1 million in Europe alone. But it was all misinformation spread by fanboys, since it still has yet to sell even close to 2 million copies worldwide.

I own 27 PS3 games. Sitting on the shelf behind me. So I am certainly doing my part!

[Monk3y]

I can seriously see from your post that it's fanboyish

Yeah, i remember Killzone 2. It've sold O.K if u look at the PS3's thats out there.

To the topic: It's gonna be awesome! InFAMOUS, M.A.G, Uncharted 2, GoW III and more... (I hope for Patapon 3!) My stomach is gonna cry.. (Lots of games + not so much money = Gotta cut something and it's not games :P)

[free3sixty]

The funny thing is that the PS3 sold better at 599 USD as now for 399.

Also, every european buys his PS3 from amazon Uk.. cause it costs only 299 euro there.. just go on amazon and look. So why dont europeans buy the PS3 although it costs 299 euro?.. there didnt change anythink on sales.

But when i look on US sales.. the PS3 is there at ~30k... its nearly dead there.