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Enough is enough: The Treyarch bashing is really getting old

Gaming Console Network's Sean Foster takes a personal look at why game developer "Treyarch" is getting major heat for it's Call of Duty: World at War game as well as the upcoming unnamed Call of Duty 7 title rumored to take place in Vietnam. Is it time for gamers to stop bashing Treyarch and instead throw some much-needed support behind the developer?

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RememberThe3575463d ago

They're just not as good as Infinity Ward. I think we'll see something pretty cool if Activision lets then expand out of the WWII setting like they let Infinity Ward do with Modern Warfare.

sonarus5463d ago

Treyarch needs to step out of infinity wards shadow and make their own games. These yearly COD installments are stupid and annoying

Sharingan_no_Kakashi5463d ago

that treyarch doesn't suck. They're just not as good as the big IW. And that they do need to step out of IW shadow. I bet they could prolly make some cool games.

50CALheadshot5463d ago (Edited 5463d ago )

fanboys hate

Seraphim5463d ago

I wouldn't quite say they suck but they are nothing more than average. All the develop are below average to average games. Had World at War not carried the CoD title it would have been just another average shooter in the haystack.

Anyway, the day I cut Treyarch some slack is the day they start creating rock solid games that are above average. :P

II Necroplasm II5463d ago

sonarus is right.

Besides... they was saying that COD WAW is superior to COD4 lol

screw them.

BattleAxe5463d ago

Treyarch did a fantastic job on CoD: WaW, and are now supporting the game with its 2nd map pack in June.

Infinity Ward did a terrible job of supporting CoD4 with one crappy map pack, not to mention the connection issues and the "Host End Game" garbage.

Looking forward to MW 2, but to say CoD4 was way better then WaW, you guys must not have even played it or you just suck at it.

II Necroplasm II5463d ago (Edited 5463d ago )

Modern Warfare >>> WW2

AK-47, M4 carbine, G36C and C4 >>> Guns made out of wood.

YoMeViet5463d ago

I like to point out that (most) AK-47 stocks are made of wood.

evrfighter5463d ago

"Treyarch did a fantastic job on CoD: WaW"

lol IW did the legwork on their new engine...all they did was make maps re-skin weapons and perks and modded attack dogs instead of the choppers...

They didn't even try to make the main menu's any different...

II Necroplasm II5463d ago

@YoMeViet Yes I know that, but you should get my point.

TheRealSpy025463d ago

call of duty, all together, needs to go the hell away!

TheRealSpy025463d ago

guess i'm the only one who's tired of seeing the same old game running on the same engine repackaged with a different number at the end of it.

COD hasn't changed since 2. and 2 wasn't very good.

then again i'm talking to a die hard console generation, and being a pc gamer, i've played FPS since wolf 3d. this mundane, ai-free, invisible wall checkpoint stuff has been done to death. and COD has done NOTHING to reinvent the wheel.

r3xmund15462d ago

Ever since they crapped all over CoD3 and its gimped single player... they have been baaaad news...

Infinity Ward FTW

SL1M DADDY5462d ago

Then they released COD3... Sorry, that game was butt nasty. After COD:WaW though, they won back my appreciation. My appreciation goes by games and on a game by game basis. Make one bad one and you're out. Make a good one and you're back in.

LoVeRSaMa5462d ago

The problem is they don't give us what we want, thats the difference its another reason why Infinity Ward are better..

Another point is the fact I am sick of playing WWII Games ¬.¬"
its probs why COD 4 was also more popular WWII has no relevance to the people playing it these days they want current events.

Also Vietnam... why.

Infinity Ward and Treyarch have some rivalry themselves so its not like its the fan boys fault the 2 companies actually argue over the COD games, and most the people can tell that Infinity Ward are the better Developers for the COD series.

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swiftshot935463d ago (Edited 5463d ago )

I got disagrees. WTF? There are people here that believe Treyarch>Infinity Ward? LOL. There is definitely some kind of internet virus thats going around. N4G seems to have been subjected to it.

NegativeCreepWA5463d ago

Considering COD4 is better than 5 in almost every way, I would have to agree.

Greek995463d ago

@2
We all know. Its only obvious .

PPL(not me) disagreed because of you ignorance.

Sky Zero5463d ago

They stink.

Every CoD they've created I hated.

Even the rated well WaW sucked ass to me.

Online sucked and so did the who gives a crap story.

HackMaxx5463d ago

Treyarch's history in their games as far as I am aware wasn't primarily shooters, when compared to IW which was formed from ex-EA MOH people to make their vision of a WWII FPS.
Of course IW will be more interested in improving the game. If your dev company got the chance to do a huge franchise it would be stupid to turn it down. IW created COD, Treyarch were the lucky buggers chosen to help out with demand.

Kleptic5463d ago

Vietnam isn't exactly a 'WW' though...so I guess that is good...in fact there really hasn't been a good vietnam based first person shooter yet...Battlefield vietnam was ok, but largely just 1942 with a different backdrop, and a focus on online more than anything...and the shellshock 'nam series has always been a joke and nothing more...

but agreed as far as WWII goes...which is exactly why I never purchased world at war...same WWII movie ripoffs left and right...the russian sniper segment was ripped right out of Enemy at the Gates...which call of duty 2 alread did (even your russian guys name was Viseli (sp?) in cod 2...just like enemy at the gates)...its old...period...you can call it a 'great game' if you want...but some of us simply won't purchase stuff we've already played...didn't I push the germans back to the Reichstag in Call of Duty 1?...i'm pretty sure I did...

world at war was mediocre at best...when you have titles like Gears of War, MGS4, and Uncharted out this generation....there is simply no room for that mediocrity imo...if you like online...Halo 3, modern warfare, and killzone 2 crap on world at war's blatant rehash of its predecessors...

but unlike many...I never blamed Treyarch...I blame Activision...they found something that worked in late 2003...and have granted us annual sequels more or less ever since...if you really think world at war is great...you simply have no problem paying full price for something that is basically an expansion pack with updated graphics...that has never worked for me...but to each their own...

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies2d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken2d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing692d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker2d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt2d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken2d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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65 Year Old Gamer Racks Up Ridiculous Stats After Playing 1 Game for 15 Years

A very devoted fan of Call of Duty: World at War racks up incredible in-game stats while playing regularly for the past 15 years.

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franwex297d ago

Well, he definitely got his money’s worth.

Abnor_Mal297d ago

Same as Shirley Curry playing Skyrim for years. In the next Elders Scrolls game they should have her in the game as some form of npc.

andy85297d ago

She is, I read she will be a character. Not a dig in any form but I hope she's alive when it releases

Relientk77297d ago

That's over 7,000 hours geez. What crazy stats

nitus10297d ago

Actually it is very easy to up the number of hours you have been playing a game. Basically all you need to do (assuming you have a PS4 or 5) is to place the console into stand-by without exiting the game, so if you do this a one hour gameplay actually becomes a 24 gameplay or longer.

boing1296d ago

What? So the game is still runinng when you put it to sleep? What?

EvertonFC296d ago

It's actually sad not an achievement but hey we need the full story details.

Knushwood Butt296d ago

There's someone on my friend list that has more than 6200 hours on Uncharted 4.

vTuro24296d ago

7k hours over 15 years isn't that crazy. The fact that he's been playing the same game for 15 years is more impressive.

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anast297d ago

And then you got people that want to finish a game every week.

Rhythmattic296d ago

Nailed what is the Spectrum... For good and bad, Quality or Quantity..Or the unreasonable to reason for. ;)

jznrpg297d ago

Of course you will hit a ridiculous stat after 15 of anything.
My main character for Everquest had over 500 days played in the first 6 years of the game. I was young then and had a lot of time on my hands. I don’t think I could duplicate that again until I retire and not sure I could match it if I tried.

EvertonFC296d ago

500 days in 6 years is nothing lol, you do realise how many days in a year right ?

poppatron296d ago

I might be getting the maths wrong here, I think 500 days in 6 years works out at an average of just over 6 hours every single day. For 6 years. That’s pretty serious

EvertonFC296d ago

Edit: wrote this early this morning, I understand it's lots of hours now lol at myself 😂🤣😜

RedDevils296d ago

The only way to achieve this, is by having no life outside of video game lol.

Outlawzz296d ago

Strange choice of game but hey that's some devotion. Congrats to them!

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Off-Map Exploration of Black Ops' Kino der Toten Reveals Cut Content And Secrets

The video on Black Ops 1 shows some separate rooms, assets, and other features which exist outside of the boundary of the game.