Quality over Quantity: PS3 RPGs

Gary of gamingvice.net:

"The complaint heard around the world was and is American PlayStation 3 owners in a fuss over having next to no RPGs on the Sony powerhouse. The Role Playing genre was once prominent on past Sony consoles, confusion arose when Japanese RPG developers decided to reinforce the Xbox 360 gaming catalog."

[cmrbe]

If you haven't bought it yet. Do yourself a favour and go and buy it now.

I have always been an action adventure guy but VC completely sold me on RPG's.

[You Already Know]

I wanted VC for so long, but couldn't make the room for another game no matter how badly I wanted to pick up an RPG again....

but when I found out that gamestop had it for $30....I picked it up immediately...and I mean someone told me what the price was....I typed "brb" and 15 minutes later I have the game and start playing....

the game is great and I don't think that any RPG in this generation has yet to match it....but that title reign could soon be over...

[GWAVE]

Yep. VC is probably the best and most innovative RPG on consoles so far this gen. It's funny how some fanboys will argue so vehemently about review scores and Metacritic scores then all of a sudden when it comes to RPGs this gen they seem to forget about scores and how VC is the highest-scoring JRPG this gen by a wide margin.

They also forget that the PS3 has Oblivion and Fallout 3, two of the biggest multiplatform WRPGs this gen. On top of that, they forget that the PS3 has Eternal Sonata and (soon) Tales of Vesperia, two games that 360 fanboys previously bragged about.

[Obama]

Even the story of VC is top-notch..it is pure gold in terms of both gameplay and story.

[Bebedora]

So in what sony-building are you guys working at? lol

Chill out. Take a beer/cola and relax

[INehalemEXI]

Demons Souls is crap your pants good. you will sh!t a brick and feel proud you did.

[heroicjanitor]

I want it but I'm not sure if I want it enough to crap a brick out for it...

Edit: Can I get friend to do it for me? I knew a guy in school and the brick would practically fall out of his ass, if you know what I mean...

[Bnet343]

I don't count SRPG's as traditional RPG's. A game like VC is a strategy game with RPG elements. I will say this, Folklore is severely underrated. Very good use of motion controls.

[SaiyanFury]

The author didn't even mention Demon's Souls as the best hardcore RPG this time around so far. I realise he was talking about games released in the US, but considering the PS3 is region free for games you can always import from other places. I got Demon's Souls day one and it's singlely the most addictive game for me this time around.

[RememberThe357]

Then you not a real gamer!

[meepmoopmeep]

VC is one of my favorite games of ALL TIME
it's splendid.

it was always a Day One buy from me and i wasn't prepared for how awesome it would end up.

[I_am_rushin]

I would, but I have a policy not to support developers that don't support the full potential of my console. In this case: trophies.

[rockleex]

Lets hope they up the ante with the next game in the series by adding regular RPG aspects to it too. Make it a hybrid kind of like Suikoden! ^_^

Suikoden 2 was so awesome. I think VC has a chance of competing with what Suikoden 2 brought to the table, if only they up the ante in their next game. ^_^

[Obama]

@ rockleex

Suikoden 2 is one of my favorite jrpg, glad that someone mentioned it. Suikoden 2 also has a great story that rivals only by few rpgs.

[Canary]

Quick run-through of PS3-exclusive RPGs:

-Disgaea 3
-Valkyria Chronicles
-Folklore

Erm... and I missing one? Don't get me wrong. I absolutely love Disgaea 3 and I adore Valkyria Chronicles, but those are more SRPGs than RPGs. The PS3 simply does not have any exclusive, traditional RPGs.

The 360, however, has... Star Ocean, IUD, FAble II, and Lost Odyssey.

To be honest, there are barely any RPGs this generation and most of 'em are pretty bad. If you really want to make a Quality>Quantity argument, ya pretty much HAVE to look at previous generations--you know, back when we had BOTH.

[You Already Know]

while I didn't personally write this article...

I think an RPG...is and RPG no matter how you break them down or classify them and Folklore was mediocre at best to me...

and valkyria Chronicles is definitely an RPG no matter how you slice it...

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

You do know your list is horrible right?

Star Ocean, IUD, FAble II, and Lost Odyssey.

Star ocean 4: HORRIBLE
Fable 2: Trash and most people agree it did not live up to the hype like the original fable.
IUD: Pure garbage like Square this generation.
Lost Odyssey: The BEST out of this list and easily crushes everything on the 360.

[Canary]

My list of 360-exclusive RPGs is horrible... because you don't like most of them?

What?

How does that make ANY sense?

[Ichiryoka]

Demons's Soul's and a crapload of rpgs that are soon to be released...but I will not get into that because I'm sure you know what they are...

[ThatCanadianGuy]

No but, seriously, Demon's Souls > Anything else (Even VC)

It really is one of the best RPG's this gen.

[callahan09]

Pelvic Thrust:

I'm a PS3 fan, and I think the console gets undeserved criticism and doesn't get the credit it deserves in many regards. I'm also a 360 fan. There, we're done with the background check... You're dead wrong about Fable 2. It's one of the best games this generation, for me. I can understand some people not loving it as much as I did, but to think it was "trash?" Does not compute.

Anyway, my favorite RPG this generation is White Knight Chronicles. I think the American audience is going to gobble it up when it comes out in English. It's a really addictive game, kind of like an MMO-lite with gorgeous artistic design and a decent mythology.

Unless you count Folklore as an RPG. Because that game is downright stunning in its pure graphical/artistic beauty, with the best implementation of motion controls into a classic style video game, a great story, and an addictive adult pokemon-esque style. I love that game.

[raztad]

@callahan

Couldnt agree more with you about Folklore. 2 diferent perspectives, one single engaging and mature storyline, beautiful art style, very fun combat, Folklore is IMO 8.5/10 at least. Very very underrated, I think some "reviews" are partialy responsible for the fate of this game. I just CANT believe someone scored Folklore 7/10. Unbelievable.

Highly hoping WKC. Meanwhile VC is keeping me very busy.

[zoneofenders]

demon soul baby!!!!!!!!!!

[eagle21]

Shoddy = 360 :)

SO4 78 metacritic

[Etseix]

even if Star Flop 4: The Last Flop (or somehting like that lol) got a 74 or anything, i want it on ps3 lol, i already have 1-2 for psp, 3 for ps2 now this one to complete the series :D
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on topic, i dont need to read the article, the title says all, and YES QUALITY OVER QUANTITY

i dont need too many games coming out (still THEY ARE coming out) from SONY, i dont have money for all the games lol, 1 by 1 is good not 2-3 on a month that always kills my wallet o_o'

[Obama]

lol almost all 360 exclusive jrpg rated 70 something. VC scores 10+ higher than those mediocre titles.

Remember how the bots praise Lost Odyssey when it is only rated 78 on metracritic. They also can't use Vesperia as their trump card now (the only jrpg scoring 80+) since the upgraded version is coming to the ps3.

[Shadow Man]

ok, enjoy xbox360 leftovers

[OmarJA]

Ok, thank you for testing the betas for us... :D

I'll enjoy these games with the exclusive contents.

[Obama]

It's not so much a leftover when the ps3 version have 2x the script and voice acting, additional characters and moves.

[cmrbe]

is Disgaea 3 like VC?.

If it is the i will stop everything i am doing and going out to buy it now.

[GaryofGamingVice]

yes sir its a lot like Valkyria Chronicles but its 2d on a 3d plane and a little less difficult

[cmrbe]

Ok. See you guys in 3 days or 4 days. I am now off to buy it now!.

[callahan09]

It's also significantly deeper in terms of gameplay and options. It's grid-based as opposed to "free" like VC is, but it plays similarly, except that you have characters level independently instead of as a class, and you can reincarnate your characters and do all sorts of ridiculously deep things to overpower any or all of your characters to the point of insanity. That includes an item world where you can go in and power up all of your individual weapons or equipment, the character world where you can teach your characters new abilities they otherwise wouldn't ever be able to learn, and the fact that the highest level attainable is freakin' 9999. It's a really deep game with infinite options in terms of gameplay. The story isn't serious like Valkyria Chronicles though. It's definitely a satire.

[cmrbe]

I already bought it. If its anything like VC i will most likely be not around in 3 or 4 days.

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

It's correct. Valkyria Chronicles DESTROYS anything on the 360 jrpg wise. Hell nothing on the 360 even comes close to touching Valkyira Chronicles. Funny thing is that Sega offered the game to Microsoft FIRST and they said NO THANK YOU and decided to pursue another generic jrpg, Sega then sent it to the PS3 and by fluke, created one of the best games this generation. Then Sega gave us sonic unleashed right after VC and in a show of crapulance, outsold VC with ease.

[cmrbe]

What idiots.

I am not sure if its a fluke though. VC is just one freaking great game. Its seriously giving Uncharted big competition for my 2nd fave game this gen with MGS4 at number 1. Once i started playing it i played it for 26 hours non stop. It was that good for me.

[Obama]

Call me crazy but I actually enjoy VC more than mgs4, killzone2, and RE5. They are all great games but VC is my favorite game out of all of them.

And no 360 jrpg touches VC in terms of quality. The only great jrpg Vesperia is also coming to the ps3 with all the additional goods.

[UltimateIdiot911]

You're not. I also think VC is better than MGS4 and anything I've played this gen. I've gotten a few disagree about VC being better than MGS4 but that's fine. MGS4 is also top notch.

[Hallucinate]

aye VC wont be topped anytime soon..uncharted 2 wont even come close and thats a story driven game

[maniacmayhem]

Wha... just where are you getting this info from? Its true that it was developed on the 360 but then it was switched over to PS3 for one possible reason is that the game was originally planned to only be released in Japan, and considering the Xbox 360’s lackluster sales in that region, Sega made the safe decision to develop the game on the PS3 exclusively. It might have been the near unanimous positive reception Western gamers gave Valkyria Chronicles that forced Sega to bring it our way.

[nycredude]

All this props given to VC is warranted but I wish more of you guys have imported Demon's SOuls. I just got my copy last week and I have to say that game is freaking great! Totally rewarding experience and addictive as crack! Only game so far this gen that has me scared to die in it!

[cmrbe]

no you are not crazy at all. VC by luck i bought it because i was looking to buy a strategy game. I was originally going to buy Tom Clancys end war but someone thank god recomended VC here on N4G. I did my research and IGN gave it a 9.1 and i like what IGN like about it.

VC sat on my self for about 3 months brand new but when i first played it it completely floored me. I kept wondering why on earth VC didn't win any sales award or critic award or anything.

From the opening cinamtic to the end i was completely blown away. Uncharted and MGS4 i anticipated them for a long time but VC just caught me offgaurd. The Graphics is unique, the gameplay is unlike anything i played before. Extremely fun. The story was just superb, can't say enough good things about it. The cutscene were just amazing. The story telling pacing is very similar to MGS4 which is why i love it even more. VC is that kind of game you take your time playing it and savor every moment which i did. I love the change in pace from your normal hectic shooter or action adventure. I played VC after KZ2.

No i understand completely why some people have it as their number 1 game.

For me i have always prefered Action adventure games and why MGS4 and Uncharted are both at 1 and 2 for me but the more i play VC the more i like it and as i said before. Its giving uncharted stiff competition for my number two fave this gen sofar.

Just bought Disgaea 3. If its half as good as VC i will be over the moon.

@nycredude. Demon Soul is noted. Please let me know of any other games like VC. I hope Sega is working on VC2. That would be the ultimate.

[Obama]

Glad that everyone seems to like the game, bubble for everyone.

And I am confident that VC will get a sequel or a prequel since the game may take place before VC.

[ifhd]

too bad that Quantity sells better than Quality .

[UltimateIdiot911]

That's assuming you only care about numbers.

There are a few exceptional developers who care about the fan or has the fan in their mind. Kojima is one of them.

[silvacrest]

assuming your just some random dude who gains NOTHING financialy from sales

why do you care?

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

I've seen it before, its terminal.

[kaveti6616]

You guys, ultimateidiot (suits you well), Caseryback (funny pic, man), and Silvacrest (...), why did you guys automatically assume that he was saying something anti-PS3? I could have made a similar comment and it would be sincere. Too bad that quantity sells over quality. IT's a fact, are you not aware of it? Doesn't the 360 sell more than the PS3? Hmm? He may have been trying to be sincere about it. It's also a big shame that Sony isn't advertising that much. I understand the Japanese business model so I know why Sony doesn't advertise; all of their money is reinvested into Research and Development, of course, so what you three need to do is find a plausible way of spreading information without having a large budget, other than word of mouth of course because it only does so much these days.

[Persistantthug]

I'm just curious, because even though I haven't played it (I'm a PS3 owner), I've read the reviews on it and the strong consensus is that its one of the best RPG's of this generation.

So, I was just wondering how come Mass Effect seems to often be omitted.

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

Because it's one of the most glitchy and horrendously technical rpgs ever made. Elevator scenes? Pop in textures while playing? Unless you're talking about the PC version because that's classified as something far superior to the 360 version.

[Canary]

ME isn't exclusive.

I also think a lot of people regard it as more of a shooter/action title. And those of us familiar with science fiction and/or RPGs in general tend to view ME as a sort of chimera of old story ideas and concepts we've seen a thousand times before, without any real "soul" or "heart."

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Yeah Mass Effect is not only the greatest RPG this gen but one of the best of all time. The 360 version of Mass Effect is rated 91% while the pc version is actually rated lower with 89%. Not including that game on this list makes this a instant fail of an article.

[Tony P]

Well, I enjoyed the game well enough. It's buggy, but far from a chugging mass of gamebreakers. The story is of familiar archetypes, but no more than your average JRPG. Instead of "kid hero and mysterious pendant", it's "space marine and coming invasion". If anything, it was probably too short and a bit cookie cutter with locations.

"Mass Effect seems to often be left off the list when talking about RPG's"

Because this article (I guess) only talks about JRPGs. It would help if sites stopped referring to JRPGs as general RPGs though, especially since WRPGs have finally achieved some prominence on consoles.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

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[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Game Informer has the following...

Mass Effect: 98
Fable 2: 93
Blue Dragon: 90
Lost Odyssey: 85
Infinite Undiscovery: 80
Star Ocean: 70

Valkyria Chronicles: 85
Disgaea 3: 83
Folklore: 73

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder what the heck this guy that wrote this article was on? Must be another pissed off sony fanboy living in his fantasy world.

[drewsny]

i have never realized it but the 360 just beat the ps3 at its own game, RPG'S

[Bebedora]

You could play Lost Odyssey 10 times and still I can sit comfy in my sofa and play Disgaea 1 on my PS2 and having tons of fun doing so for hundreds of hours. That is, if you like games like that.

Games of your choice is important?

[Persistantthug]

Game Informer gave Assassins Creed a 95.

That right there is enough to exclude them from my personal list of "review sources".

I'm not saying that they are wrong regarding the games you just listed, but I'd be wary of Game Informer as my #1 source.

I think I'd rather use Metacritic.

[PELVIC THRUST ACTION]

you do know that Game Informer is basically a Gamestop propaganda mag right? Anyone that's played both systems and played Valkyria Chronicles knows that it beats the crap out of anything the 360 has made. Everyone knows that Vesperia is better then Blue Dragon. same with Lost Odyssey being better then blue dragon. Game informer is a bribed mag. Didn't Game Informer give LAIR a 7.5 or an 8 out of ten? You gonna trust them after THAT?

[Cyrax_87]

I'm sorry your post lost all credibility when I read that Game Informer gave Blue Dragon a 9.

[callahan09]

Are they joking? Infinite Undiscovery an 8 out of 10? That is one of the worst games I have ever played. That game made Lair, Haze, Too Human, and Red Steel all look like Game(s) of the Year.

[DelbertGrady]

The 360 version of Fallout 3 is superior to the PS3 version and has lots of awesome DLC. RPG of the year 2008. But go ahead, ignore that.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Actually my lil cuzin loved Blue Dragon. So according to him it's a perfect 10. And the only JRPG I didn't enjoy was Star Ocean. Kinda crappy. I actually enjoyed Infinite Undiscovery. Great characters. So I would also give it an 8. I think they're scores for all the 360 games are perfect and unbiased. I also enjoyed Assassins Creed a lot.

I find it funny that fanboys try to downplay the excellence of Mass Effect by talking about the minor glitches but they praise Valkyria Chronicles as the best game this gen but forget to mention that it has graphics of the SNES. Hypocrites.

[callahan09]

Valkyria Chronicles? Graphics of the SNES? Are you kidding?

Star Fox
http://images.ientrymail.co...

Valkyria Chronicles (in-engine graphics)
http://ngnews.files.wordpre...

You're going to say that VC looks like Star Fox? Give us all a break, please. Valkyria Chronicles could easily be mistaken for a hand-drawn cartoon at times, and yet that's real time rendering in that screen shot, not hand-drawn animation.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

Oops my bad. I meant Disgaea 3.

[callahan09]

Super Mario RPG (the most similar SNES game, graphically, to Disgaea 3)
http://i174.photobucket.com...

Disgaea 3
http://www.bdgamers.net/wp-...

Hmmmmm...

[Doletskaya]

I tried to get this game but I could find it nowhere.

[labwarrior]

So, PS3 has no RPG's at all and Demon Soul and WKC are the lowest scoring in Japan, really mediocre stuff

Demon Soul is not even a RPG, more of an action title like Dark Messiah on 360

PS3 has mediocrity written all over it in RPG gaming

As for real RPGs (that is WRPGs), only 360 has that kind

Well, at that point, the desparation of some fanboys, like the one that wrote this article, must be getting intolerable, and they want to get it out somehow, by saying some crap about a supposed "quality" of PS3 games, we have heard that joke before, with the 7 hour KZ2 for exmaple, i find these games of the lowest quality myself

[OmarJA]

Judging from your comment, you don't know nothing about RPGs...

[labwarrior]

These games are not RPG's for me

[OmarJA]

Like i said...

You know nothing.

[Hallucinate]

as for real rpgs, wrpg that is..wow dude your kidding a real RPG is JRPG...and well atleast 360 has a couple of those..but anyways a wrpg is not a real rpg

[TheBand1t]

I'm sorry? WRPGs aren't of any less quality than a JRPG. Only a blind Japanophile would say that.

[maniacmayhem]

You have no clue what you're talking about do you?

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

Surprise! The two best WRPGS so happen to be multiplatform. Best RPG's on the 360? Please......

[Obama]

Don't mind labwarrior, he's just butt hurt that VC as a jrpg tops every single 360 jrpg. Labwarrior why are you here, I thought you are still spreading fud on gametrailers.

[tha_meat_beater]

its called escape fron RROD. trust me, youll die alot.

[MTEC8]

you wouldn't know innovation if it smacked you in the ear hole. Yes the PS3 need more quality RPG like VC, but quality>quantity any day. VC demo was great, need to make room/time for it before they start selling it on Ebay for $80+. Wish SE will start working on FF Tactics 2 already, wishful thinking though..........

[interrergator]

o wait till white knight comes out =]

[Cyrax_87]

Nearly every review I've read about WKC and DS (especially for Demon's Souls) have been really positive.

[ShiNe-Box-]

The so called "RPG BOX", now in the eyes of many, has long been dethroned.

Because with PS3's upcoming & exclusive cult classics: Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Trinity Universe, Cross Edge, Atelier Rorona, and White Knight Chronicles, the public are finally able to see what guys behind the scenes have been trying to hide.

Sadly, I'm sure the the Microsoft loyal, having been fed the date rape drug, will fall in line and absorb whatever MS's PR chooses to feed them next. What's next? Puzzle games? I can see it now. Xbox 360... the king of puzzle games.

[MGOelite]

i dont know wether to buy VC, i hate the art style, thats mainly why i hated the new prince of persia

[Darrius Cole]

Buy it. It is well worth it.

[KingItachi]

Look guys it's no use arguing with lab he once said fable 2 looks better than crysis so yeah. Persistantthug ME is great game what killed it for me was the loading times.

[kaveti6616]

When is that coming to the United States? How hard would it be for Sony to send about 200,000 copies of that to the states because I think it would sell that much instantly. Plus, as far as gaming reviews go, I think it's subjective. Game informer gave Assassins creed a 95 out of 100. One guy said Assassin's creed sucks. I played it; i think it deserves a 90, so you guys who hate on games with a few cut corners need to relax a little. It is a game, you can't expect to play a game without it having setbacks, i.e. Mass effect loading times and glitches, or AC's repetitiveness, or Valkyria Chronicles emphasis on strategy, or Fallout 3's uglyness (I can't play that game, too bleak and brown and grey).

[ironcreed]

Probably one of the absolute best RPG's EVER made. Until you have played it, you will never know. The level design is in a league of it's own, as is the overall game structure. The atmosphere is to die for and it is so deep, the depth is hard to even measure.

I challenge PC fans who say that consoles never get any so called "real" RPG's to get their hands on this game and I will be waiting for you to come back to me and tell me how in love you are. Just do a little reading around the web on this game and you will understand why it is gaming's best secret right now, as well as probably this generations biggest suprise. As this game came out of nowhere and is blowing people's minds. It has easily claimed the RPG throne, as far as I am concerned.

Atmosphere and immersion that makes Shadow of the Colossus look shallow, tension and fear of death that would make most any survival horror run in fear, difficulty that would make Ninja Gaiden feel embarrassed, as it is so challenging you are dead on the cover art for crying out loud. Yet once you learn and level up enough, you gradually start to make headway and the game rewards you with feelings you probably have not felt for years from a game. 100's of hours of game here and new game pluses that let you level up to the moon and people are STILL discovering new things even after multiple play throughs.

Once you play this game, it puts into perspective just how watered down games have become. It is just an experience that is hard to convey to someone who has not played it. Flashy graphics with 6 hour campaigns and regurgitated frag fest multiplayer games are a dime a dozen and RPG's like Oblivion and Fable should feel ashamed in the wake of this masterpiece. I love games in the aforementioned categories as well, but the fact still remains.

The game is an absolute work of art. They simply do not make games like this any more and I emplore anyone who is an old school RPG fan to get their hands on the Asian version (which has english voice and subtitles) and a PS3 to play it on. Just do not take my word for it, though. Look around the web and see for yourself. It is worth every cent you pay, as this game will last you for no telling how long even for just the first run. It is that mind blowingly good. A beast of a game would be an understatement.

[Ravage27]

This is probably going to be the only time i feel lucky to be an asian gamer 'coz Demon's Souls can be found easily in my country lol. For ppl who haven tried it yet, i really recommend importing it asap, esp. if you are the hardcore kind =P
I have to admit i had really low expectations of this game b4 i bought it, but boy is this game awesome!! It's extremely immersive and the game really instill fear and a sense of caution in your every move. No button-mashing nonsense (DMC4-style), it's all about timing your executions perfectly by reading your enemies' moves. Heck even the normal mobs have like 5-6 different movesets, it really keeps things fresh and unpredictable. The bosses are HUGE and most of them will actually make you pause a few second gawking. And most importantly the bosses don't just sit inside a cave doing nothin but wait for your hero to arrive and pawn them. They actually interact with you within the game, and their sudden appearance can really scare the sh*t out of you sometimes XD esp. when you are like 90% through the level.

[labwarrior]

A good game, without beeing anywhere close to a real RPG like Witcher, Gothic etc

Famitsu has given the game 9, 7, 7, 6, equaling 29/40, not that amaing if you ask me

[Midgard228]

luv this game, DLC is awesome too, but EX mode is to hard lol, wtf no tank?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The reason you say "quality" is because you can't say "quantity" you would need like two or more. This is like a juggler with only one ball trying to convince people to come see his show.

[PirateThom]

And 360 has numerous JRPGs to choose from, but they're mostly Square Enix shovelware.

[Jihaad_cpt]

I haven't felt drawn to a JPRG since Final Fantasy X, VC is really beautiful. well written and well thought out. Excellent game

Edit:
Agreed the skirmishes were hard enough on Hard but on Ex they are insane

[ironcreed]

You might want to actually play the game before claiming you know what it is all about. As it stands, you might want to take that foot out of your mouth. I know how you roll over on Gamespot, you do not fool me.

Demon's Souls is nothing like the turd Dark Messiah of Might and Magic where you can just hack your way through it blindfolded. If you try to hack and slash in this game you will not make it past the first section of the first world. You have to think, block, watch your stamina and time your positioning, weapons used, armor wore, magic used, echantments used, how and when you level up, ect or you are as good as dead with NO checkpoints. I am talking 1-2 shot kill dead from the oh so many different kinds of foes, traps, mobs and epic as it gets bosses in huge levels that are designed so brilliantly that by the time you spend 3-4 hours just going through ONE section, you will have opened up short cuts hat make it easier and quicker to navigate, so when you come back farming is made more pleasurable.

This is a thinking mans game to the max. In fact, it exposes Fable for being the shallow, completely watered down, easy to a fault, prissy ACTION game that it really is.....pirate Garb and all. I am guessing if you played this game you would quit after the first hour for being chewed up and spit out after playing Fable so much. Go ahead though, please resume giving me laughs by saying games like Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Two Worlds are just as good....just because they are not on the PS3, lol.

[kewlkat007]

the whole "Quality over Quantity" is laughable looking at whats available on both platforms. More superiority complexes ...

[JJFNIGHTS80]

It's always about quality on the PS3. But in Japan all RPG fans only buy the Xbox 360 cause all the exclusive RPG's M$ have on their system. I only stick with PS3 because of the QUALITY SYSTEM. I have my PS3 for 2 years now and still running good.