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The Big E3 List: 2009 Edition

The 2009 Electronic Entertainment Expo has ditched its lower-key approach from previous years and is supposed to put the "big" back into the "big show" once again. Scheduled to run from June 2-4 at the Los Angeles Convention Center, E3 2009 showcases several of the year's hottest games from the industry's most powerful publishers and developers.

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Smacktard5491d ago

Went to the washroom. Be back any minute now.

torontoml5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

Its a list of confirmed games not companies, but you know that and are just making a joke.

Why dis5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

They don't need to talk right now because they are not hurting. Just like Nintendo. Who cares the devs are leaking some of the non highlight titles without MSFT anyways.

morganfell5491d ago

Don't know Ghost. I fly out on the 1st and will be there for the entire show. This should be good to get back to the E3 of days past. I will be at the keynotes for Sony and MS. We haven't decided if we will attend the Nintendo show or not.

ps921175491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

The guy above morgenfell is the epicly delusional 360 fanboy. BTW everybody our bubble votes are renewed for him, meaning if anybody feel like he shoud STFU plz feel free to press the red button to the top right of his comment.

Why dis5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

Yeah this list is set in stone that all folks.

The irony in your response is staggering. Why would companies not in trouble need to hype games before the event they are suppose to do this? lol

Get some help thats not normal.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
http://xbox-360.nowgamer.co...
http://www.n4g.com/gaming/N...

Is there something wrong with saying MSFT is not ready to talk? I'm sure that fanboy knew this is the case.

RememberThe3575491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

MS and Nintendo probably have submitted what they're showing just yet. This has nothing to do with them not wanting to hype their games. It's a timing issue.

@below: Good point. I just waisted a bubble...

I did not murder him5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

I think the only people saying anything different are the PS3 only fans in here. You really think - Ghost of Sparta - doesn't realize what you said. I don't know why 1.3 got so many disagrees Microsoft's strategy has always been a shock and awe one when they're able to keep their content secret. They simply do not talk about games when they are not ready to be shown with the exception of delays.
The PS3 fans are nervous this is why they take note of the 360's software comforting themselves with nonsense all the while.

Hell I own the PS3 and I don't even pay attention to whats coming for it. You can imagine the trouble Sony is in when their own fans show more interest in the 360.

Even some PS3 fans know the list is broken based on solid info given so you know #1 was trolling.

morganfell5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

People talk about PS3 fans yet I garner 4 disagrees for saying I am going to E3. If that isn't desperation then nothing is. I'll keep pics posted as I take them.

This is too funny really. Sony is the only camp that has titles this year and everyone knows it. The other two are really sweating, Especially over the fact there might be a PS3 price drop. There isn't a counter for that at all.

Also it's funny Whydis has chosen an avatar from Japanese manga who has titles that have only appeared on Sony platforms.

I did not murder him5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

"Capcom has promised we'll get to try out the boss battle for ourselves this E3 and mentioned plans for a public demo around the same time. As for the final release, that's a ways off still and Capcom won't commit to any specific time frame aside from this winter."

http://xbox360.ign.com/arti...

You just should ignore what PS3 fans say they seem to be about as bright as the midnight sun.

Always - Ghost of Sparta - and morganfell

ps921175491d ago

Ignoring the whole entire console wars, just some advice to ppl, when trying to put yourself in a none partisan position as to make your opinion be of more value, try to make it so that it is not obvious to tell that you are lying.

I did not murder him5491d ago

You guys are being laid down without vaseline

morganfell5491d ago

Let them sweat. Sony has 20 first party studios, MS has 3. Who do you think will be showing the most. This get's brought up and the list isn't even close to being complete. Still they are desperate. With what do they respond?

Lost Planet 2 - A meh game who's first iteration wound up on the PS3.

Mass Effect 2 - A game who's predecessor balked on every promise made and who has yet to be denied as coming to the PS3 AND a game that we won't see this year at all.

Forza 3? Maybe? Possibly? Could be?

If that's the only thing they can throw back then they might as well try to take down a flight of F22s with a slingshot.

ShabzS5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

ofcource sony has more first party studios... they have been in the biz for 12 yrs with 3 generations now... microsoft came at the time of ps2 where the 3rd party support was really heavy for the ps brand... gta, resident evil and final fantasy were enough reason to buy a ps2... but microsoft had a good strategy coming into their first generation... they came out with original franchises like halo and fable ... and this generation they took as much thrid party support as possible... and now they have completed that task with the succesful shift of gta, resident evil and final fantasy onto the xbox brand... even with some thrid party exclusives like mass effect and gears of war.... and now i think microsoft will push for more first party support..

they (ms) need a lot of money to come up with first party studios.. i know most people think that ms is rich and has a much larger budjet than sony.. but that is not the case.. except for live and 360 slaes ms does not have a steady revenue ... as opposed to sony's ps1, ps2, psp and now ps3 sales with 20 something first party studios... they are cemented in the industry... ms still needs some time ... sony ruled the previous gens and garnered support from most studios coz they were alone and had no competion.. back then as a dev if you wanted to make a next gen game you'd go to sony because ther was no one else to turn to... but now you have a choice... hence it will take a longer period of time for ms to build first party support... but i'm sure they'll be building it regardless

pippoppow5491d ago

MS may show Lost Planet 2 but.... Takeuchi told the group, "Right now we are concentrating on development for 360," before saying people should stay tuned for any potential announcements. Another timed exclusive? Most likely. Game does look great.

snaz275491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

its so not as simple as that! so your saying ps1 had no competition? what you on about? lol so the n64 wasnt around then? (which i prefered) the reason sony won that gen mainly was their tech choice! and heavy advertising... they chose the cd n64 chose cartridge... even tho cartridge was better it was exspensive so people choose cd... ps2 had no competition? dreamcast? gamecube? xbox? they mean nothing to you? you make out that sony were the only guys making consoles over the past 20 years lmao what the hell are you on about? as for ms now concentrating on first party studios how come then not long ago they decided to axe some studios? seems abit backward dont you think? they are relying on dlc and buying the odd exclusive oh and being cheap (seemingly when in reality they are far from cheap) thats it... will sony win by a big margin like last 2 gens, not a chance... is that a bad thing? hell no i dont care they brought me the best console/media center i could wish for and top notch exclusives to boot!

ShabzS5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

n64? really? apart from mario 64 i cant remember n64.. what do you remember psone for. final fantasy 7? metal gear solid? resident evil 3? ... bluntley putting it ... game cube was a faliure... resident evil 4 came too late in its gen to help it, sega dream cast failed even more... coz even though it had a good tech but with no marketting and no support it failed.. and the original xbox was discontinued oh so suddenly becoz again it came in late on a firmly establishe ps2 market and thus not much support from third parties... this is the first gen that sony is actually facing competition ... this is the first gen that almost all games are evenly spread on both systems.. this is the first gen that everyone is literally fighting for exclusives to stand out from the competition..this is the first gen where sony are forced to change their tactics... psn and trophie support .. this is the first gen they've faced true competetion... which is win win for gamers..

morganfell5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

Shbzshar, you a pretty far off the base. It isn't like MS had zero first party studios last year and now have 3.

They had more studios...THEY HAVE BEEN CLOSING THEM!

Saying they will push for more first party support is a something to laugh about. They had more first party support! They just got rid of it! In fact they just shut down Ensemble that built HALO Wars!

ShabzS5491d ago

this again goes to show that they dont get as much revenue as sony to support their first party studios... they really aren't concrete yet in terms of their revenue ... this is why they charge for live.. imo they need time

Chuk_Chuk5491d ago

To say MS don't have enough money to support first party studios is silly.

MS just don't priorities where their cash goes. Look at all the advertisments that is where MS money goes. if they stopped with all this advertising they would have more than enough cash to open at least 2 studios. Then theres the exclusive DLC. Fallout 3, GTA 4 and the (possible) money used to secure FF13 as a multi. That cash could have gone into opening studios and funding projects.

and the reason they charge for live is to keep the servers running but they make a profit out of that something like over 50 billion is made from live just by subscription but yet we don't see this money go into new studios. They use it to secure timed exlcusives and DLC. All those ways that MS have made money but are not spending the cash wisely.

You said sony where financally sound, but looking after 20 studios is not an easy task thats why you very rarely see a sony AD cause they need that revenue to feed their 20 studios and fund the projects.

FamilyGuy5491d ago

Does it really need to say "New" next to every game?
When does Bayonetta come out anyways?

I did not murder him5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

I fail to see what that has to do with my point which was IGN being all over the place. Little kiddies do that, they can't control what lies beneath emotionally and will mold thought, comments or what they read based on that.

Arnon5491d ago

"Mass Effect 2 (PC, X360) NEW"

WOOOOO CANT WAIT!

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Toenado5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

cant wait for E3, hopefully WKC gets a release date thats not too far away. also team ico?

RememberThe3575491d ago

And I think the Team Ico game is going to be shown at TGS.

pippoppow5491d ago

Really should be out by the end of summer the latest, I would think. I know they are working on voice chat before the NA release but a whole year to localize seems pretty long. I'm sure Sony has more than enough to show at E3 that they can push the unveiling of a new Team ICO game until TGS. Hopefully they keep a similar visual art style.

SmokingMonkey5491d ago

you know Sony is going to show MAG...they have to, or was this a list of new stuff? or just confirmed?

ps921175491d ago

Only the ones that are confirmed, meaning that the developers have said so themselves that the games will showcased.

kingme715491d ago

Where has Darksiders gone off to? That had alot of press back in '08 and disappeared. I hope that isn't a bad sign.

Maybe E3 is a 2nd coming out.

Sony Rep5491d ago (Edited 5491d ago )

Looks like someone forgot to phone Microsoft-- unsurprisingly... haha

Don't miss my keynote ya... hahaha

RememberThe3575491d ago

They're easy to forget. Hopefully they'll show some games that gamers want to play.

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20 Underrated PS2 Games That Are Hidden Gems

From hunting ghosts to fighting it out in gladiatorial arenas, there are many underrated PS2 games you should check out in the goldmine.

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake1d 10h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing1d 6h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake1d 6h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

JackBNimble9h ago

MS has educated financial advisers, they knew there was little chance to recoup the 70billion just to break even on the Activision deal let alone whatever other nonsense is going on in MS.
This whole thing was to corner the market for leverage.

thesoftware7301d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman1d 6h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake1d 6h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus231d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows1d 5h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance1d 5h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier1d 5h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit1d 5h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

Reaper22_1d ago

How dare you mention Sony! Everyone here knows when Sony closes a studio and lay off workers it was the right thing to do. Even when they bought Gaikai and fired almost everyone it was the right thing to do.

Gamers can be such hypocrites sometimes.

andy8523h ago

Is it? That's revenue not profit. Completely different.

fr0sty13h ago

The earnings call only showcased how dire the situation is... Even with ABK and Bethesda, they still couldn't make enough to keep investors happy, gamepass subs are stagnant, and hardware sales are tanking.

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thesoftware7301d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake1d 3h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow1d 3h ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

Chevalier17h ago

Again at which point did Playstation have a $3 trillion company shift the market with a giant purchase?

"But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue."

Lol. No they didn't. Increased revenue was ONLY due to adding Activision Blizzard revenue in. Growth was only 1 percent. It's idiots like you that have no idea what they're talking about is why Xbox isn't better than it is. You guys just make excuses continually.

If Xbox got so much profit then why did they stop announcing hardware numbers? Why did they stop announcing Gamepass numbers? Oh right because they're NOT profitable. Their sales in every category has dropped off the face of the planet. It's why Spencer will be closing more studios and canceling upcoming projects too.

The Wood10h ago

How can they be profitable when they're not selling enough hardware, software or subs. You need take a seat on this one my friend unless you can prove you angles

jwillj2k49h ago

Sony didnt shut down the studios you mentioned after they made last of us or ratchet and clank or destiny. Cutting jobs is not equal to closing studios. Sony cuts are a candle in the sun of Microsoft’s closures.

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WelkinCole22h ago

I am pretty sure MS knew this would happen and this was part of their plan. I mean if anyone with half a brain can see this happening I am pretty sure a multi billion company like MS knew this would happen

The whole strategy in buying Beth and Acti/Blizzard is for

1. Buy established games they can have under xbox because they have done a horrible job in building their portfolio internally for the past 15 years

2. Following from 1, try and boost xbox competitivenss against a dominat PS which MS after 3 tries still can't crack

3. Follolwing from 2, try and weaken Playstation dominance by taking out these massive multiplats from the PS

4. Following from 3, try and profit off from the PS domiance with selected games they will still have on the PS to make money like COD

5. Obviously get the IP's by buying them instead of creating them which again as I mentioned in number 1 they have been woeful in doing

None of these had anyting to do with keeping all the devs they accuried. MS has always been very shitty to Devs under them. Look at what happned to Bungie for example.

I believe MS in court truely mean it when they said they had to do something because PS was just too dominant. This was their last roll of the dice.

And from the looks of things. It has not panned out as MS had hoped. PS5 is still as dominant as ever and xbox is still behind. Worse still their MP's they got is not irreplaceable as they thought. Starfield? lol!. There have not been any major shift in momentum in this console war in their favor so now its time to start cutting their loses and it starts with the most expensive cost for any company. People.

Michiel198920h ago

for a comparison, sony laid of a bigger % of it's staff this year than ms, it's what companies sadly do nowadays. If you think with GP and Bethesda + acti aquisition they were looking for quick cash, you couldn't be more wrong. It hasn't even been a year, "they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen." shows you have 0 understanding of how a business operates.

thesoftware7307h ago

@ Michiel1989

Exactly this!

I'm reading these comments, and it's mesmerizing how off-base most of them are.

I posted a few comments above, and their rebuttals have nothing to do with the points that I presented; when they start doing that, I just ignore them because, at that point, they're debating all over the place.

Profchaos13h ago

30 more like 70 to 80 plus 7 for Bethesda

Tzuno8h ago

meanwhile everything turned woke an inevitably went downward, i'd say it serves them well if they promote such kind of approach, mwuahahahahahhh!

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anast1d 6h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor1d 6h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows901d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19721d 5h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody1d 5h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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7 Deserving Games That Never Got Backward Compatibility

Backward compatibility works for many games on newer consoles, but titles such as The Simpsons: Hit and Run have been left out.