VG247: Dead Space: Extraction exec producer Steve Papoutsis has pinned MadWorld and GTA: Chinatown Wars' lacklustre reception on Wii and DS down to general unsuitability.
"I think that's happening because of what people are looking to buy, I guess," he told VG247 when asked if he was disconcerted by Sega's struggle in Wii's core space and GTA: Chinatown Wars' lack of traction on DS, talking at EA's spring showcase in London last week.
Beginning today, Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories and Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars are now available for GTA+ Members to play on compatible iOS and Android devices.
Sweet. I loved Liberty City Stories despite the city being empty. Those main story missions were tough but fun.
Both Stories games were far better than GTA 3 IMO, VCS being the best and most enjoyable though.
vgPWN: "Let's pour one out for these games that were awesome, but just didn't sell like gangbusters."
Absolutely! My only complaint was gathering all the armor pieces... so stupid.
I could never find a full set which was frustrating . Or by the time I did actually find one it was completely obsolete .
Fear Effect
Legend of Dragoon
Jade Cocoon
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Parasite Eve
So much greatness not many played..
Parasite Eve was so awesome. I've heard great things about Fear Effect, too. Oddly enough, I have it in my collection but have never gotten around to playing it. :\
I wanted to like Amular, but i was disappointed with TM's artwork and the visual quality in general. It seemed like a low budget game, even though it wasn't. The decision to mimic WoW was a poor one, but combat was pretty good.
I have played KOA so much it's ridiculous. It was really good.
Though if anyone is picking it up, Please do NOT go in with completionist mentality.
The game though pretty and combat fun, is filled with way too many useless side quests...way way too many.
I think you would need more than 100hours to get across even normal side missions.
I played it on my PS3. It was a great game. The DLC was pretty fun too. Shame it wasn't the success it deserved to be.
Yeah no kidding. The controls were some of the best I've ever played. Was completely surprised at how good it was. The only downside was maybe the story. Game was still lots of fun and a sleeper hit for me. I own all the games they've listed. Didn't miss out on any of those games.
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i own all those games except Jade Cocoon. I also have Fear Effect 2.
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Thanks. I've been playing video games since 1978 though, so no where close to being a kid. If you played Colosssus Cave text adventure back in the late 1970's, then you've been gaming a long, long time. lol!!
Likewise, loved Amalur for the super slick combat alone. The story was instantly forgettable though.
I remember when my friend introduced me to Shenmue II years ago. I went out and bought myself Shenmue for my Dreamcast and Shenmue II for my Xbox. Still got them to this day.
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Yet another terrible article by vgpwn, it doesn't help that they are another site that makes you go through multiple pages.
Millions of people played these games, some of them have a huge following. That site is quickly becoming one of those sites i want to avoid.
GameCrate: "We take a look at five games and franchises that would be perfect for garnering some potentially strong third-party support (which we're well aware isn't Nintendo's strong point)."
Why do people think putting an M-rated game on Nintendo console will signal an influx of more M-rated title? We've had many M-rated games on Nintendo consoles since the N64. If third parties don't feel that it's profitable to do so in the past 20 years, I doubt they'll change their mind in the next 20 years
Depends. If Nintendo are planning to create games more akin to the big games we expect from Sony or ms in tandem with their fan favourites like zelda Mario, xenoblade etc, the Console could see an influx of more users. And if the Console is like ps4 and xb1 when developing games for it, that could really push 3rd parties to include Nintendo again. It's all up in the air right now of course because we don't know anything about the Console but with previous rumours of the likes of dragon quest 11 and more coming to the nx, it's fun to speculate on other 3rd parties that would be cool to see on the new console.
GameCube was on hardware parity with its competition, yet it didn't receive as many of the multiplats. Wii U has hardware parity with PS3 and 360, yet it still misses out on many of those multiplats.
I really don't see why this situation would change with NX.
i want cod battlefield and gta oh yeah nintendo will win console war easily with those big sellers with better graphics and fps than ps4
Unless the Console is developed as a next gen console, I don't really see much changing in how things are going, even if it is a bit stronger than ps4. If it's designed to compete rather than pass out then the market will remain the same. Ps4s lead is pretty much set in stone due to its mainstream popularity. Before it could even think about overtaking ps4 it needs to catch up with xb1 which, despite being severely behind ps4, is still selling very well in its own right. If the nx were a whole generations difference between ps4 and xb1 then we could see some interesting turn of events. But it would also need to work on expanding its games library and entice 3rd party devs to develope all games on ps4/xb for the nx as well.
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CoD didn't sell for crap on Wii U, and it ran better than its PS3 and 360 counterparts before the PS4 and XBone launched.
If it didn't help the Wii U, chances are it won't help the NX.
Exclusives are more important than multiplats when it comes to getting the NX to sell.
That's just how it is.
No one is going to plunk down over $200 for an NX just because it has a copy of the latest CoD, when they can pay only $60 for it on a console they already own[PS4/XBone].
It's too late bruh the PS4 took over like 80% of 8th gen home console market share. It will sell like the N64 at best. Unless they are waiting for 9th gen or something which by then will be too late. We all know Nintendo doesn't care about 3rd party. The consoles they create are for their benefit and only their benefit. They do not go to other companies and ask what they may need/want in a console so they can grow and thrive. They are stubborn and do not improve their consoles. They do not live or die on 3rd party and thus are on a one man island.
Sadly to say, but when it comes to Nintendo home consoles, they are almost irrelevant to the average person. Yes the wii Nintendo's best selling console was relevant, but I honestly think it was just a fluke.
Unless Playstation stops getting lots Japanese games I like each gen, then I'll stick with them.
I just love mathematicians on N4G! So the PS4 has taken like 80% of the 8th gen market share you say. Does that mean there's only 20% left of what the PS4 has currently sold available to these consoles to sell?
Nintendo needs to bring in more struggling developers in Japan who are still obsessed with Sony, who isn't selling well over there, which is exacerbating their struggles further. Might be able to sell more NXs if it becomes THE place for Japanese niche titles.
NIntendo established themselves in their own consoles.
I hardly know anyone with a DS that buys a game beyond Mario named or those that are not Nintendo properties.
GTA Chinatown didnt appeal to much because its name targets a more ´´hardcore`` type of gamer.
A real pity. Chinatown Wars is a savage game. It just goes to show you, the majority of these Nintendo "gamers" are simply buying into the fads, never updating their software library until the new Brain Training or other such self-help/brain-teaser games come out, or some gimmicky waggle-fest to keep Johnny-7-Year-Old busy and entertain your drunken friends at a party.
This harkens back to earlier comments I've made. The reason the Wii sales are shrinking is because it's aimed at the casuals. You aim for them, you play buy casual market rules. In times of economic recession, the first things to go in a normal household are frivolities like a new car, hi-def TV and especially video-games. Companies like Sony and Microsoft don't have to worry so much about this, their following is of the more hardcore variety who are willing to pay for big titles and will almost always find a way to afford their most savoured of past-times.
how funny would it be if dead space extraction was a complete flop...
not bashing the wii or the game or anything. i just think it would be ironic that is all.
i don,t know of any wi owner who even knows about dead space let alone plans on buying it.now ea new fitness game yes,even tiger woods,even fifa might struggle on wi this year due to the players appearance on the last outing,bobble heads is the way most wi owners described the game.i hope they do lose third party support with flop after flop.i would sooner see these resources put into the ps3 and 360 versions of the next outing of dead space and any other game for that matter.
It's not an excuse that there are mainly casual gamers with Wii and DS when the sheer numbers of consoles shifted dictates that there must be a decent market for nearly any game type. I.e the gamers are still around that own a Wii(might not get as much love as their PS360 but a good game is a good game, no?)even if it's often a second console.
WaW sold miserably in it's first few weks but I checked the other day after seeng it still full price in Game and it's sold over 1.6 million now. The thing about that is it's like GTA CTW on DS in that it's got a big name heritage to fall back on plus China Town Wars is an absolute gem of a game and if DS/DSI gamers don't even get this as a sleeper hit then, sadly, the only decent games you'll get are jrpgs and Nintendo titles I fear.
Madworld and HoTD:Overkill I picked up the other day(just had too many games til then for lots of reasons)and if people don't think they're worth it at ,like £17 each then on Wii trhere's very little hope for a core game with no big name legacy at all. Nintendo, though, are largely to blame for all of this and if they don't support third parties willing to push the envelope on their consoles then the market they think they found could just disappear overnight.
Nintendo Channel/Shopping channel should and could have demos just like Live and PSN which would help sell both first and esp third party games and the innovators like Madworld and some Wii ware titles would really benefit from it.
Ironic that the people behind Dead Space are saying this. The actual PS360 game(which I feel is an incredible game actually)didn't set the sales world alight even if EA were happy enough with it's eventual figures for a new IP. They have no name on the Wii though and Overkill despite what the sales will tell you is about a million times better than UC was and HotD has a bigger profile than Dead Space does on Wii already!
I'm really depressed about the sales of good games on the Nintendo systems of late and really angry that Fatal Frame 4 which was critically acclaimed and a decent seller in Japan won't come to the US or EU and Ninty themselves as publisher made that decision! Shows what they think about core games right there, imo, esp ones they didn't make themselves. All this means I worry if Muramasa will ever arrve over here as what looked like a better year to own a Wii slowly falls apart-even though I've enjoyed what I've played of Overkill and Madworld(and devoured CTW)with sales like these if The Conduit dies a death it's goodbye to anything beyond NMH budget games for gamers and not many directors are Suda51, not many can manage to get a game to survive with no budget for anything.
Add in that Capcom can only be bothered with MH3(where they want to fleece the Japanese market to play over Wii Connect!)and the "new" Resi titles(the two wii makes and the risable reliving of UC again) stink of rip off, lazyness and "that will do them". All that while wii got no SF game, no real new Resi and PS360 got two SF, RE5 with DR2(CTYD on Wii is the biggest pile of...)and LP2 on the way.
If the new Wii zelda and a slew of amazing motion plus games are announced at E3 then maybe Ninty aren't losing it totally but their lack of support for games they don't make is killing off core Wii games slowly but surely.