Special Comment: Bethesda, time to put up or get out of the industry

Darkpower of GameGazette writes: "For what seems like a few games now, they [Bethesda Softworks] have shafted all Playstation 3 owners so much that some of the most hardened 360 fanboys-you know, the ones that scream conspiracy anytime they are called out?–have cried foul over such business practices. A new "episode" of their Fallout 3 game, entitled "Broken Steel", is set to hit the 360 and PC versions soon. This is the third DLC content available for the versions. What does the PS3 version get, however? Not a damn thing. They get, in essence, the core game and that's it, thanks for coming...

...And to Bethesda, it's time for you to put up or shut up. Either support all versions of Fallout 3 equally, or get your asses out of the gaming industry, because we don't have to spend our time or money on you. Unlike the media, you can't force us to spend our money on you, and there are other more deserving people we can give our money to. Those that give more of a damn about this industry than you apparently do."

[Mindboggle]

I agree, its totally Pathetic. If it came to PS3 I would buy it straight away.

[- Ghost of Sparta -]

...How so many people talk sh*t about Bethesda and yet continue to support them by buying their games. You people make no sense.

Bethesda = Bigger douche bags than Valve. To them, patching up what they should have fixed before release is a waste of time. Unless you're paying them in the millions, don't count on them to launch a RPG that doesn't require multiple fixes to work properly. I'm not even going to get into how much their games bore me as I refuse to waste anymore time talking about this sh*tty developer.

I'll stick to those who put effort into their work.

[TenSteps]

I agree that Bethesda are bigger douche bags than Valve but Gabe Newell is the biggest douche bag (pun intended).

[edgeofblade]

Don't complain to Microsoft... complain to Sony for not opening their checkbooks and countering Microsoft's cash.

And what is this "get out of the industry"? You would rather have nothing than see Xbox players get something cool? What a d*ck.

[Godmars290]

In surprising defense of Valve , at least when they made the PS3 version of Orange Box, they denied that they had months afterwards. Given them excuses of why its problems never been patched.

They also don't have the better looking PS3 version of Oblivion. Which then caused them to immediately go back patch the 360 version.

[JOLLY1]

That's like people complaining that their blu-ray has more stuff on it than the standard dvd. Seriously, get over it. Who cares if there is exclusive dlc? Should 360 owners be crying that sigma 2 has more playable characters? No they shouldn't. They purchased a complete game. I say again........who cares?

[PirateThom]

The thing with Fallout 3 is that it's not just extra content, as people on the Bethesda board have been saying, the DLC changes the (previously definitive) ending and makes the PS3 version non-cannon (unlike, say, the GTAIV DLC which is a separate story).

Ninja Gaiden Sigma II won't change the whole story of the game.

That's why PS3 owners (who actually care about the game, not just because "they have it and we don't) are annoyed.

[Aclay]

I still don't blame Bethesda for anything in regards to the DLC not being on the PS3... I mean come on, it's obvious that Microsoft paid for this DLC, just like the GTA4 DLC.

Bethesda released the Expansion pack for Oblivion on the PS3, so that tells me that they would have done the same for Fallout 3 if it wasn't for the deal they made with Microsoft.

However, I do blame Bethesda for the PS3 version being a more buggy game and really there was no excuse for it because many have said (including big gaming sites) that Oblivion on the PS3 ran better and looked better than the 360 version.

But if Microsoft want's to continue and pay for Exclusive DLC for games instead of making more of their own new IP's, then so be it, because that's pretty much all they can do to counter the PS3's onslaught of 1st and 2nd party titles.

[JOLLY1]

Without any dlc it is a complete game. Yes, if you want new missions and a fun mechanical axe, you need the dlc. It doesn't chance the complete game though.

*edit* Aclay, IF you wanted a less-buggy version, you would have had to wait for months after the 360 verion. That would have made you just as upset. Just get the version that is the best. IF it is the ps3 version get that. If it is the 360 version get that. There problem solved......phew, no more whining.

[slayorofgods]

Actually I'd complain to Bethesda for releasing an unfinished game in Fallout 3. The ending is horible because it ends midway through the story with Bethesda charging gammers via DLC to see the completed version of the game. Even after forking out 100 dollars plus for a unfinished game that needs constant updates (a.k.a. DLC) the experience is still a huge step back from the experience in oblivion.

@Jolly1 no it is not a completed game - the ending is only a build up to some dlc not a fallout 4 and you should play Oblivion then tell me FO3 feels like a completed game.

[PirateThom]

From a cannon point of view, it's not a complete story, thus the game is incomplete.

The game may be "technically" complete, but they've completely changed the whole ending. Because of the changes, they've essentially left the PS3 with an ending that is no longer "right".

[Cerberus2125]

neither of this companies get my money any more,no matter how good a game they make.I understand is business,but we spend our money for this games,$60.00,so we deserve a bit of respect from this companies.

[snaz27]

PREOWNED!!! lol... thats what i did i waited and ended up getting fallout 3 for 15 quid i will also do the same to any capcom game i want also!... and that goes to any other company that wants to take the piss! if a company treats me well then ill buy them brand new otherwise its preowned all the way!

[RememberThe357]

Pirate their sh*t.

[IaMs12]

Sounds like to me DLC is worth something now. Before, many PS3 owners were saying who cares now they are whinnying about it. Now if all DLC was like this, then yes MS it was a decent investment.

[snaz27]

i dont do it because i think dlc is worth something but i do it out of principle... if they wanna play games so will i... thats how i see it... like with capcom charging stupid ammounts for stupid things that are on the disc anyway... well simple they wont get my money... there are so many other devs that do deserve my money so its not really gonna bother me... sadly mainly those devs are first party but there is the odd 3rd party dev... like i love what epic did for unreal... ok it took them ages but look what they gave for free! even bringing us trophies! now thats what dlc should be for not to rip us off.

[Qdog]

The PS3 version is crippled with a level 20 cap, as in you can go no further without DLC. That limits your ability to play the game to the fullest, and to add insult to injury PS3 doesnt get the DLC that the 360 and PC get so the game is definitely not complete. Even if Bethsoft dont want to release the DLC for PS3, take the freaking level cap off, so that we can enjoy all the perks that they took the time to program into the game. I say, if the game costs $60.00 on both platforms(PC excluded) we should get the same experience. My money was good for them when they made the game, yet I get a freakin level lock which they conveniently forgot to mention? Take your corrupt money-hat accepting company be an exclusive dev. This was a slap in the face for PS3 gamers. Now, for the positive(somewhat), I have always enjoyed what Bethesda has done with sandbox action/RPGs, from the design, the thorough immersion with all the little details, to the characters, and interaction. Come on Beth, stand up for all your consumers, not just the company that is the first to throw a bribe your way. Surely Microsoft doesnt account for all your game sales....the consumer does. How hard would it be to just take the level cap off, and let us roam your beautiful and well-crafted landscape, free to pick skills, and enjoy perks to our hearts content? In closing, Bethesda, I think you'll find that as the PS3 user base continues to grow larger and larger, you will be alienating and losing more and more of your potential consumers and even the elitist faithful, with actions like this....fix it.

[JsonHenry]

Meh. All of these games I played on the PC. Since the first Elder Scrolls. But I can understand why a PS3 owner (that owns no other consoles) would be pissed.

[Cerberus2125]

It is not about those people who only own a PS3,I own both,and I have a powerful PC,and I do not support that kind of behavior.I could go an buy those games for the 360 or PC,but it is not wright for this people to do the consumers who make their company money like this.I want you and anybody else who buy those games,to have the same joy that I have when I play those game.I don't just think about myself.It about principles dude.

[Slime]

I think darkpower and everyone that agrees with him is pathetic!

[Cerberus2125]

You are truly a slime.

[Mindboggle]

LOL this story finally got approved.

I do think bethesda are missing out on a lot of potential PS3 customers which is stupid. According to VGChartz(*sigh*, where else do I go?) its sold 1.38 million, which is realistically 1.5 million, so thats alot of potential customers.

And im willing to bet it sold about 4 times as much as the PC version.

[original seed]

They will still make millions off 360 fans, then we wont have to hear Sony Fanboys b!tch.

[SkyGamer]

At least you guys/gals/its get the game to play. It is better than not getting the game at all. How many countless titles out for ps2 that I would have loved to seen on GameCube/Xbox. . .

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,. . .,8,000!

Anyone that wants the complete version, everyone knows to get the PC version, duh!

[pain777pas]

Oblivion the only game i really played from them and Morrowind for short period are good games. Exclusive DLC is killing gaming and now because of M$ I bet some will offer M$ or the highest bidder this sort of added incentive. Really stupid move for M$ to start this mess soon the publisher will have the upperhand. Imagine Epic saying a game will go exclusive only for a fee since our game gave you an advantage in the market before and you have a history of doing this so do it for us or you don't get your exclusive. This is the type of thing that is not needed and should not be encouraged had M$ just let the chips fall where they may like Sony we wouldn't be having all this BS going on and it is sad how the dollar has taken over gaming to this degree that we don't get complete games anymore. DLC is the end of full game releases. Look at Capcom with RE5. This would have never happened before this gen of M$ and DLC. Its not about just having a HD either M$ had one in every system shipped last gen. This is ridiculous though I feel that the author is an extremist this had to be stated one way or another. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH WITH EXCLUSIVE DLC. Its BS.

EDIT: I had fallout 3 and traded it in a week later. Just not my cup of tea. Limited ammo. No real duplication glitch and normal shooting without Vats takes 50 shots on normal difficulty to kill anything. Bogus, borderline Ridiculous.

[v1c1ous]

aren't y'all being hypocritical when you say you want zone of the enders 3 to be ps3 exclusive? or other games?

oh i forget, when 360 gets exlcusive content microsoft did shady business deals for them. when ps3 gets exclusive content, its because its blu-ray and developers only want to best visuals etc....

[Software_Lover]

Sony: Stop charging the devs for what the consumer downloads and maybe they will put more stuff on there.

Just a thought. Might not be the correct answer but has anyone ever thought about that?

Bethesda has the right to do what they want with their games. As does Konami, As does Bioware, As does rockstar, as does Valve, As does Guerilla, as does Capcom, as does Insomniac, as does any dev out there. You dont like what they do...............dont buy their games. Simple as that. We dont always know what goes on behind closed doors in these meetings.

[Qdog]

Why there are even a vocal few, that advocate these kinds of actions, just because it's happening opposite, their console of choice? What if the roles were reversed, and Sony did in fact offer monetary bribes/incentives, to keep Xbox 360 owners from enjoying a full experience? All hell would break loose, but I am more of an exception than the rule, because I am a multi-console owner, and fanboy to none. I am a fan only to the experience. I would like all gamers to have an even playing feild, without having to worry, whether or not a publisher or dev is hiding the fact that they will knowingly cripple/ignore one version? You call yourself a gamer, versus a fanboy, yet you advocate and condone fanboyism with double standards. You must be under the impression that this helps Microsoft succeed, when in fact it is the general consumer that get hit with these kinds of practices being allowed to stand. Let me tell you, that the only way things get fixed or alleviated, is when people, b!tch. Do you think for one minute that Microsoft would have offered a warranty for the Red Rings of Death, had the consumer not spoken up, and even threatened with legal action? Their current practices, suggest that you wouldnt even get an acknowledgement unless their hand was forced.

[GCNSeanFoster]

Some of you people are so delusional. When will you guys wake up and realize that this is a business and these companies are just out to make money. Bethesda is a company just like McDonalds is a company, or Wal-Mart is a company... they are out to make money and if companies like Microsoft will spend the extra cash for exclusive content so be it. Companies go where the money is. I swear its like walking into a Kindergarten class sometimes when I come to this site... People calling developers names just because game content is not out for a particular game system.

[Qdog]

I'm over missing out on DLC and the complete story, thats fine. However I am not okay with Bethesda putting a level cap on the game when they never intended to bring DLC to the platform anyways. Why is it so hard to understand that I and many others would like to enoy the original base story with the ability to level up past 20 like the 360 version can with the DLC. Thats the shame. I am not delusional, and you are entitled to your opinion, but if I state how I feel based on a company's practices, who are you to pass judgement on my character....really when have you payed my bills or done my job for me? I am also not okay with people obviously affiliated, in no uncertain terms with a certain camp, insulting others that step up and try make it known how they feel. Like I said previously, if the shoe was on the other foot, the guys that are ironically complaining about those that are complaining about this practice, would be the ones complaining about this practice.

[BWS1982]

1: how do we know this DLC practice wouldn't have a slow, vicious cycle effect on future considerations on platform (PS3 in this case) releases, the devs/publishers won't even know that the effect would be happening....We gamers (rightfully) get pissed at the "gimped" releases, and they sell less than they could have if equal to other versions (because people either won't bother, or get it on PC or 360, etc... instead), and the exec's look at it for later reference on future titles, and don't even bother putting it on the PS3 AT ALL...It's possible, that they'll look at the results and not bother with a port or conversion of a later game (provided it's not built on the PS3 in the first place) all from their own doing, because the previous "gimped" version sold less on console ___ (PS3 here)...they would inadvertently shrink future releases/software lineups/DLC by releasing "partial" experiences in past situations. It would just compound itself, in theory....Does that make sense?

That is my fear, but hopefully they also look at install base growth as well.... I'm not saying "we should all show our support, so buy the PS3 version anyways", on the contrary, because then they feel nothing is wrong with the "gimped" versions...it could go the other way, and keep the exclusive DLC-snowball rolling yet again. All I (we) ask is for more equal releases, for all platforms (we can dream, right?) when it comes to multiplats (exclusives like Fable 2 or KZ2 are another story), but the console's strengths should still be taken advantage of...But also that game development should be more of an art that keeps the artists motivated with revenue, not "just business" even though it is....the whole "it's just business" guise is taking away from the art of the video game and casting a bad light on the industry...no different than when a music artist is labeled a "sellout".

2: Why the hell is Micro throwing around so much money (I know this was last year) when now their reports are coming back of how horrible things are year over year...It's a global recession, but is it right for a company to say "Well, we had to lay off a fifth of our employees due to the constricted budget....BUT WE GOT SOME SWEET DLC!!!!" ....that's not cool. People come before wallets, MS.

[SL1M DADDY]

Is buying the game used supporting them? Just asking because I have yet to buy a Bethesda game, day one.

[All-3]

One example....

Remember the stuff from Sony concerning backwards compatibility on competitors systems?

Remember when Sony dropped PS2 backwards compatibility on the PS3 for various versions?

Look at the fuss over a game developer... what about what Sony has done?

[Feihc Retsam]

They do what's in their own best interests.
Apparently, they've found that they make enough money (and save enough on development costs) by making Xbox 360 exclusive content.
That's what happens when someone chooses a lead platform.
If SONY had released the PS3 on time (one year before it actually came out) maybe they would've been the lead platform, and gotten a shot at the exclusive content.

Not to mention, SONY is hurting financially, much more than Microsoft is right now, and can't really afford to pay for much exclusive content.

They probably broke the bank keeping Killzone 2 exclusive.

[socomnick]

This is the problem , YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO THE PATCH !!!!. bethesda gave you a product you bought it thats all you are getting. its simply that easy to understand. Ms arranged a deal for EXCLUSIVE dlc thats why the ps3 wont get it. Seriously is it really that hard to understand, The PS3 will not get the dlc. Theres nothing shady or bad about it. PS3 owners shouldnt feel cheated, they receive the product fallout 3, the extra bits of gameplay from the dlc is exclusive to a console and was never promised to them.

[Qdog]

Say you had a certain type of cancer, that was only tangible to treat with one treatment in the world. Now say I was the seller of that treatment, you paid for the medication, but not the completely unique way of administering it. I refuse to give the the means to apply the treatment, because you only payed for the treatment itself, so you arent entitled to the applicator because of an agreement that I reached with the pharmecuetical companies with a monetary incentive/bribe. You die a slow and agonising death, end of story.

Yet by the same notion, its okay to make three versions of a game on three different platforms, and only support the two that belong to the company that bribed you. I ask you, what if it was you who were getting the incomplete experience? How would you feel as an Xbox 360 or PC owner, if I told you that you werent entitled to even the most modest of patches, because my brand of choice bribed the company? How about I hold that over your head? It is a multiplatform game, not an exclusive, so why cant I get a patch that brings its functionality even or flush with the experience found on other platforms minus the exclusive DLC?

Why are you such a spiteful, unsupportive group of people, consumed by your own disdain of another individual thats based solely on a gaming console? Have we lost our way so much, that we no longer understand what it means to be a gamer? Being a gamer, means that you are supportive of an enjoyable multimedia experience, regardless of the platform. I now liken game modders and community map creators to the last insinuation of a real gamer. With their constant contribution to the community and the experience, they prove time and time again that they are gamers, not people that familiarize themselves with hatred, spite, and immaturity, like you find playing these consoles.

I dont lump everyone together, and I know that there are real gamers left on consoles, but from what I understand, by what you say, and how you deliver it in such a demeaning way, you are not a gamer. So what are you? Its a rhetorical question.

@ dyslexic Master Cheif... I think we know what happens when you rush your product to be the first on the market. As for financial distress, I would love for you to show me some official numbers to compare, because the ones I am seeing, show Microsoft struggling to keep afloat, like everyone else during this economic downturn. As for paying for DLC, Sony at least portrays the image of an honorable and professional corporation, by stating when they first arrived on the current generation market, that it is not their practice to pay for exclusivity, and that their strategy is to show the developer what can be done on the PS3, so if they would like to make a great game, they make an educated decision. Amazing the difference in perception. I am a multiconsole owner, and I enjoy them all for their strengths, but I regret that this generation has been poisoned and convoluted by efforts from one company to damage the other's credibility, I say that people like that hang themselves with ther actions. I just so happen to NOT want Bethesda to go down with them. By the way, did anyone else know about exclusivity before seeing the "Only on Xbox" logo on last generation's game cases? Not once last gen did I see an "Only on Playstation 2 logo"

[DominusRebellis]

Thank you for your voice for the PS3 owners. This was needed. I even started a petition but with minimal success.

[Hildor_muthafo]

can do whatever it wants. Its their game. If this dude really wants the DLC, then he can buy a 360 or shut up.

[Qdog]

I have a 360 , like I have mentioned numerous times in alot of posts, and even in my profile.
Again, I ask you what if it were you facing this anti-consumer decision on the developer's part? Exactly, but thats fine that you dont quite grasp it....however, look me up and shoot me a PM when you do so that I can direct you to a solution.
Also in my very last post up above, I already mentioned the kind of person you are, and I have already encouraged people like you to take an intraspective look into your own values, to determine what exactly your doing on a site, that was made by gamers for gamers, when your motives and words speak volumes on how your intentions are completely opposite the crowd, this site was intended for, true gamers.
I wish you would stop repeating the same thing over and over again, and offer me insight, and perhaps objective answers to this dilemma and some of my questions.

[Persistantthug]

NO JUSTICE NO PEACE!!!!!!111

:P

[CyberCam]

things like exclusive download content? Just don't buy anything Bethesda makes for the PS3, problem solve! They have already shown where their loyalties lie! Their next game should just be 360 & PC exclusive... no big deal. There are too many other PS3 games, to start crying about one? For the PS3 owners, they should just chalk it up as "lesson learned".

Luckily I waited to purchase Fallout 3, I wanted it but I had already purchased 3 other games at the time and decided to hold off on getting it. So now it's a no brainier for me (whew I dodged a $60 bullet there LOL!).

As for GTA4, I purchased it on day one and didn't enjoy it that much, it's ok I guess but doesn't have that addicting aspect to it, in my eyes it was too repetitive for me. I have only finished 17% of the game anyway and only play it when I'm half in bag from drinking. So I'm not interest in any of the download content for it, but because of the length of the game I do feel I got my money's worth.

[raztad]

Im not complaining AT ALL. My backup version was running damn fine on Vista, however I need to recognize that even being a free game I just couldnt stand the horrible animations, so I dont play it anymore.

Going back to VC.

[RememberThe357]

"We may fight amongst ourselves, but we'll burn this b*tch down, get us pissed."

[GameGambits]

I bought the 360 version when it first came out. Some people in here hating on Fallout 3 as a game itself are retards. The game is a load of fun, plenty of content, and above all is a well done game.

Sucks that others experienced some bugs, but I didn't run across any. Blowing off guys head in slow mo with a teddy bear = fun.

As for Bethesda not giving PS3 owners DLC I guess I'd be upset if you really wanted the DLC. So far it's all been decent add ons, but nothing that is a must get for people who still own Fallout 3. Really though if PS3 owners can shell out more cash for DLC, more cash for F3 itself, then you probably aren't poor to begin with so get a 360 for 200 bucks.

People who limit themselves this console generation to 1 console are truly idiots. If you care about gaming enough then get it all so you can enjoy it all. If you want to nuthug a company that doesn't give squat about you, then jump in a pool with a plugged in toaster in hand.

[Persistantthug]

Um....you're saying we should buy a $200 XBOX 360 (no harddrive) for downloadable content?

Obviously, that was a small error on your part, but no big deal. So, you must have meant, "Buy the $300 XBOX 360 (with harddrive)", right? The problem is, $300 is a good chunk of change, especially on these economic fronts. As of now, there's a lot of people out of work or worried that they soon will be....LOTS. So for many, going out and buying a $400 PS3 and then a $300 XBOX 360 is out of the question.

[The_Zeitgeist]

Bethesda makes some great games. Cut them some slack. HAHAHHA yeah right. Much to my regret I ended up selling my broken PS3 copy of Fallout 3. 35 hours into the game and it just kept stalling.

[Pennywise]

FO3 was the buggiest piece of crap game my PS3 has played yet. It crashed more than GTAIV on release.

What a choppy, buggy, freeze frame crap game.

[likedamaster]

It was by far the worst on PS3, but to be fair it was buggy and crashed on all 3 platforms. I had no problem on 360 but I heard it would crash, except I finished it on PC where it crashed a considerable amount where saving constantly wasn't an option. Still a great game though, DLC was good too(at least for me).

[Jeff Goldblum]

Oblivion played excellently on the PS3. Better than the 360 version even.

Theres no excuse as to why this would happen. Its not their first time with the PS3, I think they just sabotaged the project.

[Diselage]

Wow this is a huge cry fest, it's their choice. If you don't like how they do things just don't get the games they make, don't cry about it.

[RememberThe357]

These people went out and spent $60(!) on a game that they were looking forword to only to find out that it's filled with bugs, and you some how figure that it's their fault?

So when a game is so buggy that you feel like you can't continue to play it, it's your fault, not the developers?

Bethesda screwed over PS3 owners, and they deserve the hate they're getting.

[Slime]

Maybe you should have got the 360 version then.

It's not Bethesda's fault the PS3 has crap dev tools and takes more time and money to match what the 360 does.

[RememberThe357]

And what the hell do you know about dev tools, or even costs for that matter?

[Game13a13y]

you 360 fanboys failed to see one thing, that is, the morality is wrong here. what if its Sony doing this Sh*t to you guys? will it be your fault for not getting an PS 3 then?

[gamesR4fun]

360 versions crap 2

the big B has sold its soul imo puttin out a broken pos like FO3 is bad nough even without the dlc debacle.

[GCNSeanFoster]

What part of "Exclusive Xbox 360 DLC" did you people not get last year at E3? It was only said a million times at the show, on websites and blogs, in the news (especially G4) and in gaming magazines... That alone told me which version to buy... Same with GTA4 a year before...

[edhe]

It's their own fault for buying ps3 :B

[Marcello]

Excellent comment, DLC stinks. Operation Anchorage was rubbish & The Pitt wasnt much better plus buggy. Stop making extra content that should have been in the finished product & get on with making the next installment. We want Fallout 4 not some 2-3 hour quest 6 months after we have finished the game.

[Juevani]

Bubbles up my man..

[Elven6]

Oh noes Sony never signed a DLC exclusivity agreement with Bethesda making them contractually obligated to support the Xbox 360 and PC version of Fallout 3, thats so a bias mom!!!!

Seriously, stfu! Bethesda has a contract obligating them to DLC for Microsoft. And if you really think they are biased you must have gotten your PS3 for Christmas last year, anyone remember the PS3 port of Oblivion? Which not only came with all the extra content but ran better then the PC and Xbox 360 counterparts?

[UnwanteDreamz]

They should have been honest about no DLC for PS3. They wouldn't comment until after the game released. Then they went ahead and confirmed that they had no plans on releasing any DLC for PS3 but this was after a couple of weeks.

IMO they were not honest lying by omission.

[nycredude]

That is bullshiat that they didn't say anything until after it dropped. If they had said it before I would have never bought it. I mean Fallout was a good game but no where near as good as the originals or even Oblivion. With WTK and War Devil and my order of Demon's Souls pending, Fallout 3 will have been the last Bethesda game I ever purchase unless they shape up.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

@6.1 and 6.2: What about the EXCLUSIVE DLC announcement at E3 last year didn't you understand? And the fact that noone mentioned PS3 DLC at all should of been a good indication that the chances of DLC were not that high. All I saw were a bunch of fanboys saying "well we will get some form of DLC" when not a single mention or hint was given.

This article comes off as a complete cry fest. Don't buy Bethesda products that is fine. I would not mind seeing Bethesda work exclusivily on the 360 for their next epic RPG.

@6.4: I really do hope Bethesda plans a patch for the PS3 version that will let you continue questing after you finished the main story. The DLC is one thing but patches and fixes should not be denied to any system the game is on.

[Godmars290]

They also have, in the world of common business sense, to put out the best product they can. This means fixing it when it has problems, and not acting surprise and/or hurt when people don't buy it.

FO3 would be a casual purchase for me. Knowing that it isn't "perfect" or that its problems wont be fixed, that if I do buy it and get into it I wont have the option to buy existing additional content, can't even get a patch that opens the world past the story, means that I'll probably never go near it even if those issues are resolved later.

[UnwanteDreamz]

You are right they announced exclusive DLC at E3 but refused to clear up weather the PS3 would get any DLC. They were asked several times and had no comment. Then weeks after the launch they chose to finally put the rumors to rest. I don't think they cleared it up untill Operation Anchorage was set to release.

All I'm saying is it would have been nice to know......maybe for some the difference between a rental and a purchase. Truth is they waited to clear up the muddy water after initial sales. I didn't like that and as a gamer I hope this dosen't happen to anyone else.

"This article comes off as a complete cry fest. Don't buy Bethesda products that is fine. I would not mind seeing Bethesda work exclusivily on the 360 for their next epic RPG." - GEC

I agree you can have them. All they had to say was "we have no plans for bringing any DLC to PS3", this is what they said finally weeks after release. I am glad alot of people get more content and I understand that sometimes their is excusivity but I might have waited until I bought a 360 to pick it up had they just said it from the start.

@BELOW
I totally agree I was lucky enough to have not finished the last quest before the news hit that you couldn't go back. I have been disappointed with the situation as a whole. I'm not bashing exclusive content nor am I incredibly sad that I don't have it. In this case I just thought they could have done a better job.

[Godmars290]

Really has more to do that they aren't supporting the PS3 version at. No bug fixes, no general improvement patches.

If they planned to take that kind of approach from the start, they never should have bothered with a PS3 version in the first place.

[L-a-i-n]

Just so you know not everyone that owns gaming systems are gaming nerds. They don't watch or even pay attention to E3 or even pick up a game magazine. They are just people that enjoy playing games and expect whatever version they get to be the same for everybody not this crap we have going on this generation. People need to wake the hell up and tell them we are not putting up with this crap. The gaming industry is going to crap. This entire gen is a joke if you ask me. Their are few company's out there that are doing it the right way and making multiplatform games the same for everybody. I could care less if its exclusive good for you enjoy the game, but multiplatform titles should be the same for all platforms involved that includes the same DLC(even though its crap). This is coming from a Xbox/PS3/Wii person do it the same or don't do it at all.

[123360]

ms paid for it,like gtaiv,tomb raider its hardly worth getting a mention.the dlc has had bad press going as far as a game breaker not to mention the game itself,it was full of bugs.any ps3 owner must want god of war,infamous,wkc,demons soul,mag,uncharted 2,ffx111 versus,just to name a few over a bit of dlc thats average at best.i wish they would have spent it on new ips than some dlc rip off content,just look at sony,s exclusives theres a ton of them coming and by all accounts theres more to announce at e3.

[lonz354]

aww look at the PeeS3 fans crying over some dlc lol go play killnone 2 or something, thats if you even bought it cuz u know it didn't sell well

[nycredude]

DUde. We are not complaining about the lack shiaty dlc content. My only complaint is that they didn't say anything about the lack of Ps3 support until they dropped the game and people have paid for it. It was a douche move on their part, and bound to hurt their reputation, and possibly future sales in the industry.

BTW I will go play Killzone 2, just one of 72 Ps3 games I own. Next time stay in the open zone and try not to get lost in the gamerzone.

[ultimolu]

I find that really offensive. PeeS3? Is that supposed to be amusing or something?

If it was the other way around, 360 fanboys would have been crying like babies, am I not correct?

[The Lazy One]

I wouldn't really be crying.

After buying a lot of oblivion DLC, I could really care less about the DLC for fallout. There were only 1 or 2 really good Oblivion DLC packages.

I'd be more upset about GTA, but that DLC was announced well before the game was released.

u guys are really making a bigger deal out of this than you should be. Especially with that amazing lineup I keep hearing so much about.

edit:@below

well maybe if sony starts getting some exclusive DLC, we'll find out.

edit2: You really have a poor opinion of adding extra content to games. Also, I'm pretty sure Sony is already doing this with their exclusives. So, it's only bad when M$ does it?

[ultimolu]

Lazy One, maybe not you but I'm pretty sure 360 fanboys would cry out how it's so unfair.

A gimped version and no DLC. I'm sure PS3 fans are really happy.

EDIT: I'd prefer Sony work on new games than to stoop to that level. Developers need to stop doing this crap.

[phantomexe]

Yea i got the Ps3 fallout version my wife loved it and really this was the frist real core game she has ever picked up.She was so upset that she wasn't able to play the DLC when it frist came out.I mean she sounded like a fanboy.Never the less she said she not buying another fallout game or anything else that this company makes.Weather she does or not time will tell...she never said i couldn't,but after what Bethesdas done with the PS3 version of fallout i can't see buying anything they make for it.Thats are 2 cents.

[Raoh]

My 360 version was bug ridden. i had a better experience with the ps3 version that i rented from gamefly.com.. once i found out it was definite i was not getting the dlc for the ps3, i sent the game back. and i was planning on buying it.

[LONEWOLF231]

Hmmmm...........performance over Graphics and DLC.........ill stick with the PC and 360 version.

[Zeus Lee]

Microsoft paid off another Developer to not support the Ps3,are you really getting upset that they continue to show their desperation via reckless spending of their budget?

[edgeofblade]

Desperation? What if their so-called desperation wins? That's what we call a stra-te-gy. Calling this desperation is just wishful thinking.

[Slime]

Maybe Bethesda didn't want to pay Sony everytime someone downloaded the content of the PSN.

[likedamaster]

@3.1 & 3.2

Two good points. bubbs

[TheColbertinator]

Cry on Gamegazzete.Your tears fuel my power

[Droid Smasha]

cry moar droids

[likedamaster]

Xbox fans deserve it. We've supported Bethesda games since the Elder Scrolls series. We even bought the horse armor. It's only right for them to return the favor. lol.

[DragonWarrior_4]

I bought the game for the 360 and didn't even buy the dlc. I waited for the reviews of the first one and it failed. I can't imagine that the 2nd and 3rd dlc packages were any better. BTW, I thought the game was pretty good and its worth the full price tag. You guys can live without the dlc though, I did and and I dont regret not buying it. F*ck DLC that should have been in the game anyways. I do however enjoy dlc that broadens the gaming experience, Warhawk, COD, Killzone, ect.

[The Lazy One]

noted for irony...

edit: I just finished reading it, and by the end I was almost laughing at how ironic this was.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

I saw that as well and just about fell out of my chair.

[Whitey2k]

i might travel Bethesda and snap there PS3 Fo3 Game right in there faces and tell them 2 shove it where it doesnt shine whats the point on making FO3 for ps3 in the 1st place if there not gonna support it!! they just want money!

[ultimolu]

It amazes me how people support this practice.

It really does.

Back in the days, you had to beat a game to unlock something or that stuff was on the disk already.

Now, you have to buy it.

[The Lazy One]

you had to rebuy the same game again in a future version to get extra content not originally on the disk.

Now you just pay a small amount and download an expansion...

The entire pokemon franchise is evidence to what happens without downloadable content.

edit: well then why are you whining about DLC? plenty of games did exactly what DLC did in rereleases or expansions. The only difference was with one you had to go to a store to get it (and usually pay more) with the other you click a button on a menu.

edit2: why is it disgusting? Is it bad that developers continue releasing game quality content for games, so you, the consumer, can continue to enjoy a product you are already done with? Is it unfair for them to expect to be paid for things they worked on?

Nobody is forcing you to buy it.

[ultimolu]

Well, I don't remember the days you lived in because I didn't do that crap. I bought the game, I beat it, I had fun.

It's very rare I spend money on DLC but I condone this practice. And just because I condone it doesn't mean I'm a whiny PS3 fan.

Not only are PS3 fans putting up with that, they're also putting up with a gimped version too.

EDIT: I'm not whining about it. I just feel it's a disgusting practice. That's *my* opinion. This practice is becoming more rampant this generation and that's what I noticed.

EDIT2: Let's see, you gimp one version of the game and on top of that rob it out of DLC?

How could anyone support this?

[The Lazy One]

They didn't gimp one version. It's not like they had this shining pinnacle of gaming running on the PS3 and decided "hey! let's make it worse!"

It's a worse version because they couldn't get it running as well on the PS3. It's not like they one day decided they were just going to see how badly they could give PS3 owners the shaft. Sometimes making things equal on all platforms just isn't possible if you want to be profitable (and they ARE a business. They HAVE TO be profitable if they want to keep doing their jobs).

There isn't some guy at Bathesda sitting in a dark room plotting the PS3's demise. It's not disgusting; it's unfortunate, but them's the breaks. Would you rather them not release games for the PS3 at all?

[Slime]

What?

Bethesda spent lot's of time and money making Operation Anchorage, The Pitt and Broken Steel. I applaud them for this.

It's always nice to have new weapons, quests, characters and locations to see. Preferable than waiting 2-3 years for another game.

Maybe they would have considered it for the PS3. However everytime darpower, morganfail and so on download it. Bethesda have to pay Sony money. That's why it's not on the PS3, it would be another cost.

Think yourself lucky you got the game in the first place. It's better than almost everything available on the PS3 and with PS3 development expensive enough just trying to keep up with the 360. I understand why Bethesda doesn't want to pay Sony 'shakedown' money.

[Fr0ZzZeN]

They make an effort with the DLC rather than just spitting out 45kb unlock codes that are already on-disk. This annoys me more than 1 system getting additional content.

[Zeus Lee]

Strategy,you say?The biggest 3rd party game of this generation sold equal numbers across both platforms with 1 platform having exclusive DLC.

Their 'strategy' failed :'(

[The Lazy One]

currently GTAIV has sold more than a million more on the 360 worldwide.

[Darkfiber]

I respect Sony for not stooping to Microsoft's level and dishing out money for DLC. Sony are doing the smart thing and putting their money towards making better exclusives. So far this year they have released Killzone 2 which kicked ass, and Infamous is coming out soon which also looks amazing. What does Microsoft have out so far this year? Some crappy DLC for a game I already played twice and got bored of? Why would I want to pay more money to play a game I already beat? I would much rather get something new.

And no, I'm not a Sony fanboy, I have Fallout 3 for PC, and I didn't get any of the DLC and I don't plan on it. There are too many new games out there to play, there's not enough time to go back and pay more to play the same game.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"What does Microsoft have out so far this year?"

Star Ocean 4
Ninja Blade
Stoked
Halo Wars
GTA IV DLC
Fallout 3 DLC 1, 2 and 3 is on the way shortly.

Your milage may vary on these titles but 360 owners have not been bored this year. Killzone 2 is %100 quality so PS3 owners are doing great as well.

[Halochampian]

dont forget Splinter Cell: Conviction

[PirateThom]

Exclusive DLC really has to go. It's a horrendous practice.

If you don't want to support all platforms equally, don't release the game on all platforms.

[Halochampian]

there would be a lot more 360 exclusives then.

[Socomer 1979]

its that little rat bastards fault. But its alright because I'll never buy any of thier bullsh1T boring snoozefest of a glitchy, broken & ugly little game.
Its funny how much they were congratulated for being a dh1ck.
I'm happy to see this website put it out there but it should have started when we all found out about last year.
still... I didnt believe they would even go so low & bought fallout 3 anyway. My mistake, one that I'll never repeat again.

[gauntletpython]

Cry moar. They make great games, so I'll keep buying them. I've never bought DLC anyways.

[Goldenarmz]

Do people whine about stuff like this? To me whining about how a company decides to handle their games is idiotic. Thats like 360 fanboys whining because the company behind KZ and GOW dont wanna bring it to 360. Get real people. Its just a game, who cares if they want to stay exclusive to 360. If you want to play the DLC cough up 199 and go buy a 360. But whining on a board isnt going to change things. Geesh, and all this talk about not buying another one of their games. Really? Seriously? Really? Over DLC? Get real ppl.

[maxx1223]

Nobody should be complaining about KZ or GOW not coming to the 360...just like nobody should be complaining about Halo X coming to the PS3.

DLC is crap though, just 3 years ago, you had these items packaged on the original shipped disc...now as evident by RE, your paying to unlock it.

Exculsive DLS is another matter. Hopefully this work is contracted AFTER final production of said title is complete, so that nothing is removed from either platform release (ala GTA4 model; unlike FO3). As long as this model is followed, then nobody should be complaining if MSFT or SONY want to pay a company to create and distribute EXTRA content to consumers. Then it just becomes a companies business decision to generate more console sales based on a $$ spent for this content rather than home grown games.

[mirroredderorrim]

I like how people are coming in here and saying "Don't cry noob!" when they overlook the fact the game was a buggy POS. (the game was solid in what it was trying to achieve, though. *awesome game*)

'Stead of seeing everyone as crying over POS DLC exclusivity, why not play a game or not even give this article anymore heat?

Bethesda already flipped us off with the same finger that came out of the MS butthole.

[xyxzor]

Anyone who thinks this has to do completely with the DLC is stupid. Its the fact that PS3 owners got the shaft with the game itself. It was a terrible port. It froze several times, had huge game breaking glitches. They put out 1 patch that didnt even fix a quarter of the issues. I wont be buying another Bethesda game no matter how good it is rated. Bethesda charged the same amount for a game that definently wasn't equal. Thats what i am mad about and thats what everyone else should be mad about. Exclusive DLC happens all the time this is not the problem.

[cyclindk]

I just want people to proof-read before ranting, that's all...

"...the highest bigger."

Come on now..

[OGharryjoysticks]

It's never that easy Mr. Writer Man. Sure in theory it sounds nice, but it would never happen. People are still gonna buy it and therefore support em. They don't care and neither should you.

[bardler]

How is this Bethesda's fault? Sony is the one to blame in this situation. The PS3 is not a friendly platform for DLC compared to the PC/360 especially for 3rd party developers who normally struggle with the PS3 hardware. Fallout 3 sold less on the PS3, PSN cards are still not available everywhere, PSN does not advertise to people what is new to download like XBL does, and it would add development time for them to make each DLC. On top of that all Sony charges third party developers for them to add content to PSN so even if MS does not have an exclusive contract all of these reasons is not a good combo. Expect this trend to get a lot worse before it gets better but if I had to guess they are going to put it on disk form like they did with Oblivion.

[drewsny]

i know N4G is a little down when it comes to hits this time of the year but they really need to stop all of this fanboy crap that is being posted. The reason why the xbox got the exclusive DLC is because microsoft payed more for it and supported bethesda more, sony just didnt have that much support for bethesda. Is the author of this article really trying to say that bethesda should go out of business because they had exclusive DLC for xbox and not ps3? Why aren't people crying over the GTAIV DLC that was xbox exclusive because it is the same case with that how microsoft payed for exclusive DLC.

Also to whomever wrote this article
"most hardened 360 fanboys-you know, the ones that scream conspiracy anytime they are called out" That happens with all fanboys not just xbox fanboys.

I'm getting ready to be reported so many times because i supported bethesda on a ps3 fanboy site.

[MaximusPaynicus]

...after reading this I am convinced that this joker has absolutely zero idea how the video game industry operates.

[BasilMarceaux]

Its not MS's fault for paying for it, and its not Sony's fault for not paying for it.
Its Bethesda's fault for selling a $60 game for both and only supporting it on one console. What if Samsung sold TV's through Best Buy and Walmart but then later said, "Oh, only the Walmart TV's get the extended warranty and firmware updates".

Offering different colored armor or other trivial things (Dead Space, Soul Calibur) is one thing, but not offering hours of extra gameplay without prior warning is total BS.

I'm not whining here, I have a 360 and PS3 and was lucky enough to wait before buying FO3 to hear about the DLC shenanigans. But what if I didnt wait?, I'd be pissed off and should be.

[All-3]

Bad example...

Remember when Walmart sold BOTH HD DVD and Blu-ray players/Movies?

Remember when Walmart announced it would only carry Blu-ray players/Movies?

[xyxzor]

Its not fanboyish. Its a rant against the games quality. I saw this thing on xplay talking about how Bethesda has a great fanbase. To bad they take a s*** on their chests. Seriously wtf. If you are not going to have a equal product across all platforms(not talking about DLC) dont make it multiplatform.

[Droidbro]

these games arent selling as well on ps3 as other platforms. it's all business at the end of the day and bethesda isnt going to sell enough dlc on ps3 to justify development or porting

IMO there should be no exclusives at all. the system should sell itself not their exclusives

[Droidbro]

and they work with what works for them. This is the same reason they don't even bother with the wii at all.

[XPC HARDonE]

Companies do what they think is in their best interest, and consumers do what is in their best interest. Bethesda and Valve for whatever reason decided that the 360 would generate more revenue for them. Are they right or wrong, does it matter? I own a 360 should I be mad that Guerilla Games or Naughty Dog are not going to port over their excellent games to the 360? We consumers made our decision with our console choice, the lucky ones who can afford both dont worry about any of this.

I am sure Bethesda took in account the alienation of many PS3 owners when they accepted the MS money and made the dlc. Was it worth it, well we'll see the next time they make a multiplatform game. IF PS3 owners are worried about not receiving the extra content and a crappy port then they will ignore it en masse. When that happens then Bethesda may decide that was a bad buisness decision. Only in the world of video games does the consumer seem to hold an ever changing set of moral guidelines over the heads of companies who make our toys.

Bethesda will make its decisions based on profit, the author of the artice needs to grow up.

[BasilMarceaux]

I agree with most of what youre saying, but I think the main difference is in that Killzone and and Uncharted are PS3 exclusives, while Fallout 3 was released for PS3 alongside the 360 version.

Maybe, Bethesda shouldve just made their games 360 exclusives since theyre so loyal to it.

I mean, lets say Killzone 2 came out for 360 as well as the PS3 and neither version had multiplayer, but months later, Guerrilla Games decided to only add multiplayer to the PS3 version..?

[Shakermaker]

Bethesda make great games. Even WITHOUT the DLC Fallout 3 is brilliant.

[MaximusPaynicus]

Maybe. Without basic fixes? Not so much.

[Droid Smasha]

I thought dlc "didn't matter" to the ps3 fanboys. Now youre writing whole articles to complain about not getting it. Lemme introduce you to "crow", eat it long and eat it slow

hahahahahahahaha

[OmarJA]

Keep your buggy overpriced floppy DLCs... :D

[NinjaRyu]

you Sir get a bubble!

[XPC HARDonE]

I think your right.

Next time Bethesda should make their games 360 exclusive, lord knows we need some quality exclusives.

[BasilMarceaux]

That would suck for PS3-only users, but it would clear up alot of the confusion and anger over this.

Ive always favored game exclusives rather than DLC exclusives, it just seems to make more sense.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

"...And to Bethesda, it's time for you to put up or shut up. Either support all versions of Fallout 3 equally, or get your asses out of the gaming industry, because we don't have to spend our time or money on you."

Really? This is your solution? How about you realize this is what "EXCLUSIVE DLC" is all about you dolt! Bethesda get out of the industry? How about you go buy an arcade 360 on the cheap and play the 360 version with the content. Quite crying like this is somehow a personal attack on you. Bethesda has evey right to do as they want when it comes to support of the core game. They arent' the only ones to have pulled stuff like this. Bioware made major upgrades and changes to Mass Effect on the PC vs the 360 version and never made those avaiable to the 360 version via a patch but nobody cried out and said they should leave the industry. Epic included entirely new missions in the original Gears for PC...nobody said leave.

Just shut up and play your games. If you are such a big fan of the game then you knew ahead of time the 360 version was going to be the one you wanted to play. You just hoped Bethesda would be going back on their word and allow the DLC to come to the PS3 version. Well guess what, Bethesda stayed true to their arrangement.

It's time to grow up and realize that not everything in life will be "equal" or "fair" and that you will be faced with choices because of it.

[kewlkat007]

About that statement..

1. Supporting all 3 consoles equally is debatable. Both console versions were buggy and one got Exclusive "DLC" deals the other console maker, is not wiling to pay for. Boycott Sony for not putting money into extra goodies for it's hardcore fanbase.

2.Bethesda leaving the Industry, well that will never happen because fanboys said so.(Give it up, you have no authority). They would go Exclusive Only and I bet you, they would still make enough to eat. Sony no longer dominates software sales.

3.What you can do is just cut your support for Bethesda. Whatever works for you individually. I'm sure there are dealings in the background we do not know about when it comes to this "DLC" stuff.

Most Only PS3 fans 90% of the time would rather buy a PC version of a game that is also on the Xbox360 but not the PS3. If the PS3 version of FA3 is sh!t, why not use that same logic.

Simple...

[menoyou]

Boycott Bethesda, it's that simple.

[Slime]

Better build myself an ark, PS3 fans are crying so much the great flood looks like a spilt drink in comparison.

First example of fail by Darkpower. Bethesda have only made two PS3 games. Two games is a couple, not a few.

Another example of fail. You think Todd Howard should let you interview him. You, a right-wing fanatic that worships Sony. With a level of fanatisism not even Al-Qaeda could match. Why? You would not listen to a word he said. No answer would be acceptable, everything he said would be wrong, all because you and Sony are infallible.

In fact. i'll skip to the end as this is my favourite part.

"I am also hopeful, though I am not holding my breath for this to happen as there is always at least one, that people don’t take this as a fanboy rant. I do not like this move on the part of Bethesda, and I would be equally applaud if this was Microsoft left out of the cold"

You have got to be fǚcking kidding me. This is what Premenstrual syndrome looks like in blog form.

[JD_Shadow]

"Better build myself an ark, PS3 fans are crying so much the great flood looks like a spilt drink in comparison."

And you care...WHY?

Plus, what in the HELL is a "spilt drink"?

"First example of fail by Darkpower. Bethesda have only made two PS3 games. Two games is a couple, not a few."

Few = more than one. Hope we're clear on that now

"Another example of fail. You think Todd Howard should let you interview him."

You didn't catch my article challenging him to an interview to get the hard questions answered, because it seemed no one else was asking them. You find that odd that no one will bring up the PS3 version when talking about the DLC?

"You, a right-wing fanatic that worships Sony."

Wow! Someone who has yet to catch any of my history, and someone who just tries to equate two things in order to make some point that fails hard. Where did you get this thing that I was a "right-wing fanatic", because that had nothing to do with gaming at all, plus if you read up on my comments on this site and elsewhere, I'm FAR from it, and I bet that if you talk to a lot of "Sony faithful", you'll learn that it's made up of conservatives and liberals alike, as diverse as the 360 and Wii crowd are.

Plus...ahem, "Special Comment"? "Worst Person In The World"? Just WHO ELSE uses those? A person that many right wing fanatics hate: Keith Olbermann. My usage is not by any accident, either.

"With a level of fanatisism not even Al-Qaeda could match."

Way to cross a line! Kind of disgusting that you try to put me into the same group that killed tens of thousands of people on 9/11. Yeah, your name fits you. Those two things aren't even comparable.

"Why? You would not listen to a word he said. No answer would be acceptable, everything he said would be wrong, all because you and Sony are infallible."

Where did I even say that? And plus, you would take every word he would say as the absolute gospel, so I'm not seeing how you would be any different from what you're trying to pin on me.

[bomboclaat_gamer]

darkpower is a cry baby. omg, how old r u?

[andron]

This blog asks some hard questions that go beyond the "console"wars and asks developers to be more honest about their "exclusive" deals.

Something we all as gamers should want to get answered...

[Ozzyb]

Please don't lower yourself to such a level that you are answering to those people. You didn't say anything that you need to be defending, especially to some pathetic (fanboy) children. Holding companies (ANY company) to a high moral standard is a large part of why they are forced to change their practices.

Although, I think you should have included something about how this game is probably one of the most terribly programed, POS examples of software ever to be released. Twenty minutes into the game, when I can't progress any further due to a glitch, I am not worrying about DLC. I'm wondering why I can't sit down at the desk, and I have to look up a solution online, to continue playing.

Gamers used to stick up for each other for no other reason than the fact that they each shared a common activity. That is long-gone now, at least for the most part it is. I appreciate you bringing back that hint of "This pisses me off as a GAMER, because...". You'd think gamers would be less happy about other gamers getting screwed, as it could just as easily be them. You'd think...

[andron]

I try to keep my responses to flamebait to a minimum, it's just a waste of time. But sometimes I can't help myself LOL

Yeah, Bethesda should really be questioned about the amount of bugs in their games. All the bugs held me off buying F3 and now I just don't care about that game anymore, far to many other good games to play...

[Rifle-Man]

I've been a fan of the post-nuclear RPG genre since Wasteland. It's really disappointing, as a Fallout fan from the start, that just because I own a PS3 that I can't get the whole experience without going out and buying a 360 and another copy of the game (which I'm not going to do).

I loved Oblivion, and I thought that Fallout 3 was okay, but unless things change I'm not buying Elder Scrolls 5 or Fallout 4 – there are plenty of developers out there that will actually support their games that deserve my cash.

Fallout 3 and GTA 4 were bad enough, but if this exclusive DLC crap happens with Modern Warfare 2 I'm going to snap – seriously.

[ShabzS]

deal with it ... anyway lost and damned was 10 times better than anchorage

[HDgamer]

Bethesda is under contract with MS. Once that is finished who knows what will happen.

[do dirt mcgirt]

Bethesda should have made this a 360 exclusive in my opinion.Fallout3 had plenty of issues but i still think of it as a great game.I was originally going to buy this game for my 360 but it broke around the time fallout3 came out.It wasnt the RROD when i put a game it would not play it would take me 10-15 minutes to get a game to work so i sent my 360 in for repairs and picked up Fallout3 for my ps3.I totaly feel ripped off for buying this game on my ps3 i like fallout3 and would love to play all the dlc that came out for the game and i am sure a lot of ps3 owners would not mine paying for the dlc.I work hard for my money and i dont like being screwed as a consumer.If Bethesda was not going to support the ps3 version they should of left it as a 360/pc game.Bethesda made millions of dollars on the ps3

[do dirt mcgirt]

version the least they can do is support it on ps3.

psn;salvagebeast
xboxlive; Do Dirt Mcgirt

[Ausbo]

listen if you don't buy bethesda's games then they will make them exclusive to 360 and then all the ps3 fanboys will riot

[free2game365]

Business is business, I don't get why people are so butthurt over it. This was probably a good move for Bethesda considering it streamlined development between two platforms that are easy to develop for and compensated the lost revenue of the PS3 DLC, which wouldn't have been that much anyway considering the PS3 version sold the worst out of the three.

[do dirt mcgirt]

@ free- pepole are butthurt because $60 is a lot of money for a game and everybody is not rich when you buy a game i think of it as a investment.A lot of ps3 fans bought this game and they are feeling ripped off because they are adding dlc content that affects the game as a whole and then you tell ps3 fans f*** u up the a** with no lube.

as a gamer we are geting f**cked over this gen on all sides

[free2game365]

PC gamers get shafted with this 10x worse than you do, you don't see us b*tching about it nearly as much.

[sarshelyam]

...really seem to be the only ones not whining about this. I have both CONSOLE versions, so really I'm not at all that miffed about it. I am left a bit disgusted that there IS, indeed, this attachment to the 360 & PC versions being the definitive versions, with the PS3 version looking like sloppy-seconds.

It really doesn't make sense considering that aside from some of the smaller DLC, the PS3 version of Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion looked better, had a more consistent framerate, and a further draw distance lending far more clarity to the scenery than the 360 version offered. Where did they become complacent? Why do they consider the PS3 userbase so secondary? Is money really so important that one would risk their credibility? I love the games Bethesda does, but I don't love the underhanded business tactics attached that make these BETTER versions for one gamer, and not the other.

In closing, EVERYONE should be enjoying this DLC, not just those of us who own a 360.

[REALgamer]

And those reviews were for the game on the disc ONLY.

It's not like missing out on DLC suddenly makes that bad - it means you've still got a fantastic game you paid for like most titles released - just without anything extra later on.

It's just like 360 owners with Ninja Gaiden 2 and Eternal Sonata - PS3 owners are getting enhanced versions, yet i don't see them telling Bandai Namco or Tecmo to 'get out of the industry'.

So really what's the problem here? Exclusives are nothing new, whether it's the full game or DLC. Missing out on DLC you weren't even aware of when you bought the game doesn't make what you already own any worse. It just doesn't make it any better, so you got what you paid for, but nothing else.

[Neurotoxin]

Neurotoxin, Subsidizing DLC on 360 And PC VIA PS3 Purchases including Oblivion and Fallout 3.... Hope you guys enjoy what i cannot!

[reckoner]

It's not so much Bethesda as it is Microsoft shoving money down their throats.

[thecremeegg]

Just download it, stops them getting money, tis the best way ;)

I'm incredibly annoyed that the new DLC removes the level cap and extends the game - essentially the PS3 version isnt complete and thats pathetic on their part. Luckily if you have a decent PC their copy protection sucks (so i hear)

[likedamaster]

PS3 = Fail

PS3 fanboys = Epic Fail

PS3 + fanboys crying on the net about no DLC = priceless

[xenosagax112]

Xbox 360 = Fail

Xbox 360 fanboys/girls = Fail

MS paying for DLC = Fail and infact you dont see sony and nintendo thowing money around like its nothing and ingoring the probs on the Xbox 360 it self . i hate Noobs that dont know crap about there own systems .

[do dirt mcgirt]

@ sarshelyam i agree with u i have all 3 consoles and would have bought it for the 360 if my old one didnt break around the time this game came out. i will buy fallout3 for my 360 when it hits the bargin ben and get dlc then but it is messed up to ps3 only pepole i will say this again gamers this gen are getting f*cked over royaly from microsoft,sony,and software companys

@likeda master i will buy it for the 360 when fallout 3 is around $20 i refuse to pay $60 bucks for a game on one console and then turn around and pay another $60 bucks

psn;salvagebeast

live;Do Dirt Mcgirt

[likedamaster]

Seriously though, if you want the FO3 DLC that bad you either get it for PC or buy a 360. Simple and plain.

[pippoppow]

But why single out the PS3. MS basically paid for the DLC not to be on the PS3 since it is on the PC. Sure not really a big deal for those with a decent PC but is it right to shrug off the PS3 fans that poured millions into a company by supporting their product. Exclusive DLC for a multiplatform game is wrong and if a company decides to play that exclusive DLC game then they should just not bring it out on the PS3 at all. Sony should play hardball and say to Devs "Either support your product 100% or it will not be released on the PS3". Would love that as I'm sure they wouldn't want to lose about half their game sales and would force 100% support. This goes for any exclusive DLC for a multiplat game on any system.

[Game13a13y]

totally agree with you. my 60g is as good as the 360 owner's toward FO3, but we got our a$$ halved thanks to Microsoft dirty practice. just keep it as exclusive, or 100% support on both consoles.

[DaGamingKing]

Sounds like a bunch of PS3 fanboys spitting the dummy over no Bethesda love.

Cmon, get your asses out of the industry? What kind of statement is that. Bethesda has pioneered RPG's, and given such greatness with Fallout and Oblivion games. Your statements are unjust, insulting and a disgrace to the gaming industy.

Maybe, just maybe, if the 120 million PS2 owners actually went out, supported Sony and bought the PS3, you'd have a larger install base, more revenues, thus allowing Sony to buy exclusivity also as well as in the same process making it economical for Bethesda to focus on PS3.

Its YOUR lack of support, thats driven companies and others to this. Get out and Buy more PS3's and maybe, you'll get some exclusives back.

Till then, stop crying.

[Game13a13y]

please look up the word morality in the dictionary. we are not crying, we are simply raising this concern to the industry as a wake up call. this practice is so half-azzed and it hurts the dev reputation and they get less sales from the PS 3 side. hey, MS, instead of trying to pay everybody to get your way, why don't you actually make some good new IP on your own?

[kaveti6616]

When PS3 owners get extra features or better content, you know what they say to the 360 owners? Stop whining and get a PS3 already. I've heard that one a hundred times before and even though it makes more sense than whining, you guys completely lost your mancards when you started complaining about this. Let's get one thing straight. Microsoft pays extra money for DLC to be CREATED and releases to their console. What kind of business practice would it be for Sony to acquire for free what MS paid for? And another thing, why do you complain about how buggy a game is and then complain about the lack of DLC support for said game? So here's my two cents: Stop whining and get a 360 if you want to play the DLC, or HERE's a better thought: Buy the game and the DLC on the PC, its much better than on the 360, and you won't have to feel like a traitor to your precious SONY.

AND Clearly, everyone can admit after reading the last paragraph of this tripe article, which is just a summary bash on the 360, that this isn't really about bethesda, it's just another SONY fanboy backlash out of frustration. Whoever wrote this article is just upset with the world, upset at seeing people willing to spend money for things he or she is not willing to spend money for. Again with the Xbox LIVE cost, again with lack of 2009 games (which will probably change) and again with the annoyance that HALO happens to be a very popular game and continues to sell very well. Why doesn't this guy just be happy with his PS3 instead of feeling self conscious from seeing so many people having fun on the 360?

[JD_Shadow]

Did I start a debate? Yes.
Did I want people to talk about this? Yes.
Did I get my thoughts out on something the genuinely made me upset? Yes.

Then I did my job.

Thing is, I didn't write this to flame bait. I wrote this because I was really mad about how people get shafted for no good reason. I'm not a fanboy by saying this, and it's something that had to be said. I used the words I did to not only get your attention and acknowledgment that I was indeed angry, but it was my true feelings about the issue, like I do any other time. I'm not going to hide what I think about anything. I thought PS3 owners were being conned because of this, and I wrote it in that sense. I hold no regrets and I stand behind my opinions. If you think that makes me any less of a gamer, then fine. I don't think it does, and I think I'm MORE of a gamer by voicing my concerns about this practice.

I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot here, those that are crying that I said this would be the one that were "whining".

@kaveti6616: Stuff like that I had covered in my bringing up Mirror's Edge. This FO3 issue is different because, unlike that stuff with Bioshock or ME, the DLC for FO3 is adding to the main story of the game.

[DMason]

Waaaaaaaaaahhhhh!

What a cry baby. Buy a 360 and shut it.

[JD_Shadow]

That wasn't fanboyish, was it?

@kaveti6616: So when PS3 owners get shafted like this, they are supposed to just shut up and let it happen?

[Bigpappy]

Get the PC version if you hate the 360. US company supporting US xbox. I think they might have learn this from the Japanese.

[Magna Farta]

Man, this site just gets worse and worse. I've seen Craigslist Rants and Raves section make more sense than you losers.

I think I'm done here. Simply, most of the people on this site are embarrassments to gaming and utter failures of humanity.

Go f*ck yourself, N4G

[drewsny]

i live how all of you PS3 fanboys are saying "just make it a xbox exclusive if you love microsoft so much". I bet you would be complaining even more though if they made the next elder scrolls a 360 exclusive. You know what, you might just get what you ask for. I think it would be funny if their next game is only for xbox because of ps3 fanboys saying that it should be xbox exclusive.

[Qdog]

Let it be an exclusive. I am tired of getting games that are ported down to compensate for inferior engineering. If they stop insulting PS3 only owners by releasing a game that doesnt do half of what exclusives do, fine by me. Its sad really, as I have been a Bethesda faithful for a very long time, but this is the final shafting that I'll take. Gamers should be more discriminant against companies that choose to willingly give them an inferior experience.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I love this game.

[Trebius]

I've never blessed the gamer zone with something that offensive and graphic...but Bethesda DESERVES every bit of hate...

To release a game they KNEW would get multiple DLC content and leave the PS3 gamers in the dark deliberately is just plain silly...if it were completely different and deviated from the actual retail version of the game...i wouldnt care...(like GTA4 DLC)but just the fact that it adds MORE levels, and it CONTINUES the storyline makes me fume at the fact that I was in love with the game, and lost interest after I realized they werent supporting it.

I will never again buy a game from Bethesda, and im certain many others are doing the same.

FUKC them up their STUPID ASSES...

Again i'm sorry for the offensive comments, but this is a touchy subject for me .... haha.

FUKC BETHESDA!! STUPID FLOPPY DONKEY DIKCS!

Note: Only way I will retract my statement is if after the contract is up they release a bundled DLC package for PS3 and lower the price to half of what 360 was charged just as a slight compensation.

I'll retract HALF my statement...

[xenosagax112]

the games you listed are flawed and out dated

1) Star Ocean 4 dose not say ( only of xbox 360 )

2) Ninja Blade is a clone of Ninja Gaiden that was on the NES days

3) Halo Wars is nothing like Starcraft and we all know that Starcraft 2 would out sell Halo Wars 10 to 1

4) GTA IV is on 2 systems yes Noob its on 2 systems

5) Killzone 2 will never be on the 360 b/c its a sonys first party Exclusive Noob

Now this is PS3 only games ( Exclusive )

WarHawk
Haze
Motorstorm 1 and 2
Resistance 1 and 2
Metal Gear Soild 4
Eye of Judgment
Killzone 2
LittleBigPlanet
Uncharted 1 and 2
White Knight Chronicles
WipEout HD
Demon's Souls
Cross Edge
Infamous
Heavy Rain
Final Fantasy ( V )XIII
Valkyria Chronicles
Genji: Days of the Blade
God of War III
Dark Cloud 3
Disgaea 3
Folklore
Full Auto 2: Battlelines
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
Heavenly Sword
Lair
MAG: Massive Action Game
Mist of Chaos
MLB 07,08,09: The Show
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 and 2
Quantum Theory
Ratchet & Clank Future: A Crack in Time
Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Ratchet & Clank Future: Quest for Booty
Ridge Racer 7
Siren: Blood Curse
SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation
Time Crisis 4

And 1 more thing PS3 got FF7 on the PSN and not on the 360 and no Noobs aka 360 fan boys/girls MS cant get FF7 b/c sony owns the rights to the traslation to PS1 FF7 lol

so that makes FF7 Exclusive ( only on the PSN ) and the point im making is that DLC is just a lazy way of milking money from gamers .

[caffman]

sorry I fell off my chair that you listed lair and haze like they were something to be proud of!
oh and the open zone is >>>>>>>&a mp;g t;>>

[Daz]

Ridge raaaaccceeeeeerrrrrrrr. Ratchet & spank.

[L-a-i-n]

You can talk about Haze all you want but I like Lair. Who the heck doesn't want to destroy and burn crap with a dragon? before you even mention the controls they have a patch for that 8) that I didn't think it needed just to many people with no gaming skills at all.

[xenosagax112]

Now for you 360 fan boys/girls i can list of 360 games that jumped ship to the PS3

Lost Planet 1
Eternal Sontata
Bioshock
Tales of Vesperia

Now i will list PS3 games that jumped to the 360

Devil may Cry 4
FF13

[Vortex3D]

I simply buy the best version either PS3 or X360. With Fallout 3, I buy the X360 version. Reality is neither console has everything. Being a fan to one console only just limit yourself.

[Brixxer600]

This shouldn't be about DLC though , the content is being released on disc format , the MS deal covers downloadable content , Bethesda could've released this on PS3 , just like Oblivion GOTY eition but it looks like they've chosen not to.

As far as i'm aware the main crux of the Broken Steel pack is the removal of level cap and the ability to continue the game after completing the main quest , this was asked for by the fans and people who paid their hard earned money to play the game , it's something that wasn't in the main game by design , this part should obviously be available to all gamers.

[Jerlemar]

No DLC, so might as well not make the game for PS3 to begin with? That's terrible logic and it isn't "immoral" for Bethesda to not release an EXTRA content. The 360 version is buggy as well, and I don't feel the need to even buy the extra content. I'm satisfied with how it came out. Stop being so ungrateful. If that's how it's gonna be, might as well not make Fallout 4 for the PS3 at all.

MGS4 was only released for PS3. Does that make Konami "immoral" for not making it for any other system? Nope. Sony paid them, just as how Microsoft paid Bethesda.

Just be happy you're able to play the game. DLC started for home consoles just a few years ago, and I refuse to believe that it's something required to have.

[AKNAA]

Sony does not pay for exclusives or DLC and Kojima chose the ps3 because it was the more capable console to produce his vision of MGS4.

[Wurmbollie]

financed the creation of this content. Why did you expect it would appear the the competition's console?

[ktchong]

You should be playing Fallout 3 and its DLCs on the PC anyway.

[wanderofys]

I can't comprehend why anyone with a competent PC would play a Bethesda game on anything but a PC.

[AKNAA]

Gaining money for your company is important and all, but when you were a Kid, didn't you want to make an awesome video game for the innovation and passion of it, rather than just for the money?
Microsoft is corrupting all these simple minded greedy developers with their Cash this generation and Fanboys are so blinded that they're actually defending it and not seeing the long term effect?! WTF?!

I've never heard of Sony, nintendo or sega back then ever paying off a developer for an exclusive before... until micro stepped in.
sadly, it seems that the game industry is no longer about innovation, but more towards sales figures... and thats a damn shame.
Well, at least sony's first party dev. are doing what they can for gamers!

[caffman]

after months saying "DLC DOESN'T MATUUUURRRRR" and "XBOTS AV NUTHIN TO PLAY!!!!!" some members of our hallowed community are complaining that dlc matters because only xbox owners can play it?
As cartman would say
"quit the whining b!tch!"

[trgz]

The fact that the DLC packs are only available through GFW renders it pretty well unavailable for PC owners too - what PC owner is a) going to want to install GFW, b) going to create an account, and c) going to get ripped off by the way the points are priced. It'd be interesting to see figures for how the DLC's sold across the formats.
Gotta agree that it sucks that PS3 owners have been sold short

[OhReginald]

I remeber when todd howard said in a interview that PS3 owners didnt need the DLC content cause theres up to 100 hours of things to do in fallout 3........100 hours? get the F*** out of here..i finished it in 30 hours and sold it....

Bethesda use to be my favorite dev....now they are lame asses.

[shocky16]

But thats the typical tool for you, only care about SHOOTAN.

[shocky16]

Your tears only fuel my trolling :)

[WitWolfy]

Why is everybody moaning about the DLC anyways?!?!?!

Sometimes i think you guys and the guys from the other sites blog just want something to arghue about. Fall Out 3 is good... But not brilliant . I mean the graphics are sub par and story line above average.

C'mon so what FO3's DLC only on X360. Its not like its convincing people to go out and buy The console because of that

[JAllard]

Lame DLC for a yet lamer game. Who misses that?

PS3 owners have mercy please, lame DLCs are the only we get, let the Xbots enjoy DLCs in peace.

Sony FTW!
J. Allard

[WitWolfy]

Yet another day. And still the crazed fanboys go wild! ITS JUST A FREAKING GAME !

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Whaaaaaaaah I'm cryyyyyin over youuuuuuuuu (it's a PS3 country song)

[creepjack]

Guerrilla Games, its time to put up or get out of the gaming industry. Its absolute BS that you refuse to bring Killzone 2 out on the 360.

Now... see how stupid that sounds on the other foot? Dont blame Beth Soft or Microsoft, blame your almighty Sony for coming into this gen as arrogant as they did. They literally came into this gen with the attitude that devs will be all up their butts just because they are Sony, and they thought they could get away with doing nothing. THey even said that their fans will buy a PS3 even if it didnt have any games on it.
THere just arent enough tissues available for the cry baby that wrote this article.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

This isn't about game exclusives. There is a much different precedent her. It is the Bethesda and Valve's in the world that will suffer.

We just buy other games. Microsoft just counts money. But these companies will see brand drop off. Their PS3 games are not worth the value. Many of us will rather get them used or discounted.

The antithesis of a fanboy is still a fanboy on these boards.

[news4noobs]

the title of the article should read: pos3 fanboys cant take it that games DO NOT SELL WELL on the pos3 and therefore (rightly so) dont get DLC.

i also hear that the pos4 will have a bucket attached to collect the tears of the crying fony fanboys.

Bethesda FTW!!!

[MysticStrummer]

Bethesda made it clear that Fallout 3 DLC was 360 only. It still may eventually come out for the PS3, but I personally don't care. The same goes for the GTA4 DLC. For those complaining about the quality of the PS3 version, I guess you didn't read many reviews. It was buggy across the board, the PC version was best, and the two consoles each had pros and cons for their versions. The main reason I don't care about the DLC is that I would say the game is a little over rated. Good not great, enjoyable not mind blowing. I prefer Oblivion. I will buy the next Elder Scrolls game for sure, I may or may not buy Fallout 4.

[trgz]

XBox only eh? tell that to the PC gamers

[bomboclaat_gamer]

i hate seeing grown men acting like little kids. GROW UP PEOPLE!!

[Andor_Trask]

I have never heard of Sony EVER buying exclusive rights to DLC for any game.

I only ever hear about Microsoft doing that. Fvckem, I hate that kind of sh1t...I have both consoles and a PC but that kind of douche baggery is really unnecessary.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Exclusive DLC is becoming a failed experiment. It is more forgiveable for a dev to be totally exclusive. I don't buy games that have DLC exclusive to XBox. I just don't, not out of malice or hurt feeling, but out of a sense of my dollar's value.

[Daz]

SO dlc matters now ? lol. It didnt matter a whle ago.

[Thatlalala]

Heres a sum up of the atricle and comments for those who dont want to waste there time. Wa, wa, wa.

[lawrence360x]

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[pat84ricia]

Well, they have to pay Sony for the data that everyone download on PSN. Maybe that will be also a reason why Bethesda decided that the DLC will only be available on the Xbox 360. I think that Sony is the blame and not Bethesda! Sony can also pay (If they have actually paid) for an exclusive DLC.

[lawrence360x]

multiplayerblogDOTcom — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ................... multiplayerblog — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!............multiplayerbl og — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ................... multiplayerblog — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!.....multiplayerblog — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ................... multiplayerblog — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!

[lawrence360x]

multiplayerblog.mtvDOTcom — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ................... multiplayerblog.mtvDOTcom — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ............multiplayerblog.mtv DOTcom — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!......................... ................... multiplayerblog.mtvDOTcom — It seems Sony is almost trying to push publishers away from the PS3 and DLC. They are now charging for bandwidth used to download said content from PSN; regardless of if the content is free or paid!

[Droid Control]

cry into a bucket droids, i want to wash my balls with your tears! lol

[bigjclassic]

1. Fallout 3 and oblivion are totally overrated. I had to get that out as these 2 are good WRPGS but not must plays for everyone that owns the Hd consoles. Meaning they are passable, you are not missing out. I have Fallout 3 and it is passable.

2. Bethesda is a PC game dev by nature, and they will support the console that is the closest to an actual PC.(360)

All of the PC game devs (Epic, Bethesda, Valve etc.) that purposely shaft consoles onwers (PS3+Wii) they can stay on 360. They NEED the 360 to live and be strong since piracy is killing the PC game market, so there loyalty will lie with MS until they decide its over.

[MidNite]

I thought there was nothing special about Oblivion as well Fallout3 is a sweet game on the other hand.

Why so much fuss over Xbox DLC I thought no one cared about this kind of stuff and how Microsoft is blowing all their money on worthless DLC? Now just about everyone is crying foul. I believe Sony allowed this to happen they probably had every opportunity to buy into these expansions but chose not too...

[xenosagax112]

Why so much fuss over Xbox DLC why its b/c of the level cap and the ending bug fix thats why Noob

[xenosagax112]

The games i listed are Exclusive to the PS3 system Noob learn to F___ing read before posting

[caffman]

just because a game is exclusive to PS3 doesn't mean its good. I bought heavenly sword. What a mistake that was. I've got games on my 360 that I haven't put in the console. Next time how about listing things that are good on the PS3 like LBP and super sonic rocket powered battle cars (one you missed) instead of copying the list of PS3 exclusives off wikipedia.
But then why am I debating with a child. Go and actually BUY a game instead of talking about them

[Shadowstar]

Much as I want them to bring it out for PS3, they were completely clear about it, and I made my purchase knowing I wouldn't get the DLC. If people are really that upset, they shouldn't have bought it in the first place-- Bethesda didn't exactly keep it hidden. I know I spent a week or two trying to decide whether I cared enough about the DLC issue for it to stop me from buying the game, and I eventually decided that while it couldn't be awesome enough to make me get a 360 (and after playing it-- no, it definitely wasn't), it could still overcome the annoyance of the DLC issue.

Anyways, Fallout is a PC series, even if this iteration was more console oriented than the rest. Be happy the PS3 got it at all. Really, we should just thank Bethesda for giving us a reason not to spend more money and move on.

[boss_killa]

but f'ck bestheda. im not supporting a developer that gives me second rate versions of their games, and shafts us with extras. even though dlc really isnt a big deal to me, alot of people are missing it.

bestheda can go suck balls.

[zootang]

You do know the PS3 will get all that content but on one disk!!

Anyone remember Oblivion and no DLC

[L-a-i-n]

I agree if you can't make the same content for the PS3 don't freaking make the game at all. I was glad that they picked up the series at one point now I wish they never had. If you release a multiplatform title make the same content for all not just the one that is padding your pockets. Fallout has always been a favorite series of mine. Bethesda is just giving it a bad name. I am just glad the original developers of Fallout are also working on a Fallout game.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsS...

[cardgenius]

I couldnt agree more. While I love Fallout 3, it will be the last game I buy from Bethesda. At most Ill buy it used, which I never do. But hey, **** em. I went out of my way to spend $60 on a brand new game that didnt even work right out of the box, and then they decide to shaft me with no extra content and give me no reason at all as to why. **** Bethesda. And yes I will be selling my used copy of Fallout 3 on Ebay once I get Platinum. No need to keep it in the collection if there gonna treat me like the red headed step child.

[-MoOkS-]

This is what happens when you don't buy games.

Bethesda doesnt want to waste there time because they know ps3 owners won't buy it.

[mrlahey]

Now i own Fallout 3 on my 360, but I have a PS3 also. And seeing this war of DLC is making me sick. I think everybody should have the right to get DLC for their game, no matter what console they own.

Any how i bought the first DLC Operation Anchorage, witch i hated by the way. And i was dead set on getting the Pitt and Broken Steel, but i quickly lost my interest in supporting a developer who pimps out their DLC to its highest bidder.

I feel sorry for the PS3 people who bought this game, just to find a ton of bugs and no DLC support what so ever.

So i wont get the Pitt and im not buying Broken Steel either, i refuse to support this behavior.

[kingme71]

So, If Bethesda released a PS3 patch that fixed known bugs, raised the level cap to 30 and allowed you to continue exploring after the ending BUT gave PS3 owners no DLC, would that be fair? After all, MS paid for the new DLC content. Bethesda isn't just giving it to them to be nice. I don't see how that differs from what Rockstar did DLCwise for GTAIV.

[dash--]

If you buy the new Fallout Vegas used will Bethesda get any of the profit from that purchase? If not wait until used copies are available then purchase it. That will take some money out of their pockets. Or just don't buy it.