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New Xbox360 Disc Protections? Bans to follow?

Xorloser noticed the other day that when FIFA'09 for Xbox360 is patched with the latest update, the flags that specify what media the game is allowed to run from have changed. Originally it was allowed to boot from a standard original Xbox360 disc, however now it is only allowed to boot from a new media type which is basically an updated version of the original Xbox360 disc type.

Those who have ever looked into the depths of the Xbox360 disc authentication scheme know that a "new" type of disc authentication has been in the works since the Xbox360 was released. It is known as the AntiPiracy v2.5 checks, or AP2.5. Is this FIFA'09 patch a sign that AP2.5 is finally going to see the light of day? If so then the ban hammer is going to come down hard.

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Diselage5486d ago

Does Microsoft really ever stop banning?

jack who5486d ago

nope never...and they shouldnt....i hate modders and cheaters

TheBand1t5486d ago

If by modders you mean those who mod their games for an advantage over players and not modders who take precious time to make practically a new game at no cost to you.

chrisnick5486d ago

without modders there'd be no 360....i had a modded original xbox and trust me when i say this...half of ms ideas on the 360 were not their own. half the stuff on the 360 were in the modded xboxes. they just turned around, made u pay them for it and called it-next gen.

xlx-russ_925486d ago

i agree chris, last gen xbox was the best console imo.

Deadman645486d ago

@chris

Like what? Just curious.

chrisnick5486d ago

well for me the most important thing was being able to have the game on the hdd(full game), hdd upgrades. downloading wallpapers, files online(gamesaves were awesome), xbmc, being a able to ftp files from pc to xbox and other things.

commodore645486d ago

@chrisnick

I agree.
The xbox1 was hugely more useful when modded.
The xbox1 was the best console last gen.

For those who don't know, modding an xbox allowed you to save entire games on hdd, play movies without purchasing a remote, install emulators (mame, psx!), store movies on the hdd, etc...

It just made the whole thing about twice as useful.

Oh, and you could easily copy games, but of course i have never done that.
:)

Microsoft Xbox 3605486d ago

The PS2 has been doing that as well. Full game installations, emulators, etc...

Nothing new.

caffman5486d ago

how? The xbox had a hard drive in it to install on. Did the PS2?

zoneofenders5486d ago

basically modded xbox360+ RROD = M$ sells several more xbox360.
no warrant for the modded xbox360 + pirates willing to pay another 199 bucks and get their game for free = more and more console sales...

griff25485d ago

You could fit a HD internally via the network adaptor..

prunchess5485d ago

Just to put those disagrees you got in their place, here's a link for anyone that doesn't believe you

http://www.hdadvance.com/hd...

My son still plays my PS2 and I've two drives loaded with games.

Tarasque5485d ago

If you violate the licenses agreement then MS can ban whoever they want. And to the guys modding consoles to d all the stuff a PC can do is just well....i am not going to say it.

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Crazay5486d ago

I do alot of readin on a variety of sites and soemthing tells me that this is something that was already detected and worked on by the community. I think that it also uses something from the NXE update which the community has already figured out a workaround to.

jack who5486d ago

n4g should get ready for fake RROD sob stories....ban hammer is coming

Zeevious5485d ago

Then flashed the 3 red lights 74 times before finally demanding a Wii & PS3 sacrificial disk which it proceeded to grind a ceremonial ring of death into...Only then did it start working normally again.

Oh why Microsoft...WHY don't you simply post this sacrificial repair at XBOX.com - I and all other 360 Gamers or Worshipers would gladly sacrifice every counter-console disc we own to you to appease the E74-RROD Demon Gods!

. . .

Jack, just keep this in mind...such a sacrifice makes you ban & RROD proof!

Really.

Zeevious5485d ago (Edited 5485d ago )

Seriously, poor sad console cultists...GET A SENSE OF HUMOR!

I like my Elite...it's FUN
I like my PS3...it's FUN.

That's what these machines are for...FUN!

I like Humor for the same reasons...
If your console's made you lose yours, I'm very, very sorry for you.

Raoh5486d ago

Doesn't this sound like the serial verification that sony wanted to implement pre ps3 release that sent everyone into riot mode? where a disc would lock itself to your console and couldn't be shared or traded?

pixelsword5486d ago

which would have made the PS3 fail.

Hard.

And Sony would've totally deserved it.

Totally.

and I would've cheered the PS3's demise if they implemented that.

Once I buy a disc, it's mine to do what I want with it; if you have a problem with that, then you don't deserve customers.

Anon19745485d ago

Thankfully, Sony didn't implement this tech.

I would not have bought a PS3 if they had. Think about it. If the disks imprinted themselves on your console and only played on that console - you couldn't rent games, trade in games, lend games to friends buy used games. You can understand why Sony (and developers) would love to have seen this implemented but thankfully cooler heads prevailed. The PS3 would have been dead on arrival, and rightly so.

If MS is foolish enough to release a "digital distribution" hub next gen like Shane Kim hinted at all it takes is for their competitor not to follow suit to doom that console as well.

tawak5486d ago

i got a modded xbox 360 but
good thing i play online on my ps3 im safe..lol

-x.Red.x-5486d ago

once xbox 360s are down to 49.99

i'll get one for offline and my ps3 for online!

outlawlife5486d ago

youre going to be waiting a long time, ps2s aren't even 49.99 yet and they have been out almost 10 years

360 ~3.5 years

good luck waiting

skip2mylou5486d ago

yeah but considering that they have dropped the price of the 360 3 times i think dont know, then it should be close to $90

UnwanteDreamz5485d ago

I'm already going to do that but I'm not waiting. Getting the 360 for a couple of games I would like to play but I'm not paying to play them online. My PS3 titles take up enough of my time online.

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Is Anybody Out There?

GamingLives mourns the decline of socialising in online games and explores why.

" If an individual wants to include a social side to their gaming, they must now do so in dedicated communities, gaming clans and guilds, or by restricting themselves to their own friendship groups. No longer can it be found in our everyday experiences of the games we play online."

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TotalSynthesisX4105d ago

The reason why no one chats in-game anymore is because of three types of people:
1) The assholes that take the game too seriously and insult anyone that's better or worse than them,
2) The trolls that do nothing but teamkill or play loud, obnoxious music through the mic, and
3) The prepubescent snot-nosed children that are a mix of everything above.

If gamers actually had respect for one another and did their best to keep a clean competitive online environment, then maybe more people would be willing to plug their mics in. The odds of that ever happening, though? Slim. Very slim. It's a fact that being an anonymous entity online gives people a scapegoat to be immature; it gives them a mask to hide behind, and it's common for gamers to abuse that anonymity. Half of the stuff gamers say to each other while playing a game, they would never say face-to-face. Try going up to a random person at a gas station or shopping mall and call them a "d***-sucking f***** n*****" or talk about their mother. Odds are they'd deck you in an instant. But online? There's nothing they can do. It's essentially a Get Out Of Jail Free card.

It's a sad reality, but that's just the way it is -- and as much as we want it to change, it probably never will.

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Football games: Worth every penny or a total con?

TGC writes: There are those that like to argue whether you are a Fifa gamer or a Pro Evolution Soccer gamer. I’m going to take it one step further and say your either a football gamer or a non football gamer. The fact of the matter is a new game comes out every year with possibly the slightest difference from the previous game and they release it onto the shelves in quantities thinking that they’ve made something new and improved. I really think they should hold a prize for anyone who can spot the difference between FIFA 09 and FIFA10 because I’m really struggling.

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showtimefolks4281d ago

I use to buy every sports game I was interested in madden,MLB,nba and wwe along few others and I remember buying playing for few days than thinking why I paid full price for this. Than one year about 4 years ago I said no more and I have never bought another sports game at launch sometimes I do buy me when they $20 on craiglist of sale but that's barely

IMO sports games don't do enough to justify a fully price and that's just my opinion

If 2k can sell nfl 2k5 for $19.99 and make a profit than why are games today with less content are selling for full 60? No wonder why EA ran to nfl and bought the exclusive rights

FIFA
Nfl
Nba
MLB
Wwe
NHL
Etc,

Sports games shuld be every 2 years and in between dlc and more updates and stuff like tournaments

berndogskate4281d ago

If people are willing to buy them then whats the problem? i think its cod or mw123 you should be talking about, the new pes and fifa look good this year.

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The Scourge Of Odd Numbered Gamerscore

There's no doubting that Gamerscore has been a phenomenal success for this generation of consoles. Microsoft's scoring system has proven to be an addictive mechanism that has incentivised gamers to keep playing even when a game is completed. So much was its success, that Sony even got into the act with the belated introduction of Trophies.

But if there's one thing we hate more than anything else, it's those odd-numbered achievements that mess up your score. Here's our pick of five of the offenders

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