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Sony's E3 2009 Press Conference Could Be The Biggest In History & A Turning Point In Software Perception

Twiggy, PushSquare.com: "I've been sat here pondering on a topic for today's Opinionator for a couple of days now. While I was going to talk about Killzone's irritating emphasis on terrible characters, I've decided a discussion on E3 would be ever more prevalent, particularly with Sony's superman John Koller claiming it to be the most important conference in 11 years for Sony. I'm still yet to be convinced that blockbuster games equal mainstream hardware sales, but I am convinced that blockbuster games will equate to niche hardware sales - the niche being us, the gamers, who cannot stand to go without. And that's exactly why I think E3 2009 could be a turning point in perception for the Playstation 3."

A balancing argument on why Sony's E3 2009 conference could provide the turning point for gamer's perception on the Playstation range, concluding in:

"Instead of those in the loop questioning what Sony don't have, they'll be questioning what THEY don't have - a Playstation 3, PSP and access to all the quality content that Sony have in the pipeline."

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KingKionic 5489d ago

So...i guess the big three this year ,are going show something big.

CHECK

Bnet3435489d ago

I'm not falling for this. Just your typical PR bullsh*t. In fact you'd be a dumbass to fall for this. Just wait till E3 and that's it.

poindat5489d ago

Well, in any case, it should be better than last year's E3. There is plenty of great announced and potentially unannounced exclusives from Sony, Nintendo hopefully has listened to their fan base from last year, and we have almost no clue what Microsoft will be getting up to.

It's going to be good - hopefully.

ShabzS5489d ago

well they must really have something up their sleeves to say something like that .... best e3 in 11yrs?... you dont say that unless you absolutely have something to brag about... this e3 is going to be good

Bnet3435489d ago

I know it's not the same, but I remember when Microsoft said they had the biggest announcement in gaming history. It turned out to be the Pac-Man championship edition which was basically a remake of Pac-Man. Companies tend to either exaggerate or bluff on these sort of things. Just wait till' E3 nice and calm.

sinncross5489d ago

I think the difference between your explanation and the PR from Sony is that Sony do indeed have something big to show off.

Look at it from this perspective: the 2009 PS3 lineup is pretty impressive atm and easily the best of the 3 this year. N and MS will obviously announce new software to counter Sony's 2009, however, Sony have already stated countless times that at E3 they will be showing new software, for both PSP/PS3, for 2009.

Sony's E3 is getting so much talk about because what can they possibly add to a good looking year of software and we are talking about titles not even announced as of yet.

I am certain all three will be good this year (Can Nintendo really do worse then last year?) but Sony's announcements are going to be important to see how they are structuring themselves against 1st and 2nd place for the remainder of 2009.

ZuperAmazingCooKie5489d ago

But they probably will. I hope I'm wrong though.

It's good to keep things quiet, because otherwise you could set expectations too high. GDC07 was epic because Sony kept their mouth shut until the last minute, it was some guy named Moledina that broke the silence but that wasn't Sony and he didn't say much, only that Sony fans would be "happy", and Harrison delivered.

Freak of Nature5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

I think that it is a given that this show will be big....

Most people here know the long list of games coming.And these games will be at the show in some form,be it teaser trailers,full blown cinematic movies and or playable demos...

The show will be big,just how big will only be determined by unannounced heavy hitters.

Team ICO and the SONY studios in Cambridge,London,Liverpool all of which have very large groups of devs and have been working on projects for more than 2 years or so could finally unveil.GOW3,GT5 can show major new details and cinematic masterpieces and release dates.

Then Kojima can announce a game or two (Dare I say it)...Wardevil is another game that can make the entire show that much bigger.PSP2 will also play a big part in this show,just how big?Details on Home.Price cut? That too can determine the impact of the show.

All this or just some of it added to all we already know, will be at the show,the 1st party games and the multi-plats could very well make this "HUGE"...

This will be my 11th E3.And after the past two,I am really geared up to see the show come back strong.I am always in hopes to see that one incredible surprise megaton,like the one I saw at GDC 07' with LBP.Perhaps Media molecule come in show some LBP PSP,some extra downloadable content for LBP and then give us a major surprise,a glimpse of an all new IP....You can always hope,and these are the things that can make this show huge....

How about Insomniac,is it possible they show us a new IP (that rumored act/RPG platformer) from their new NC studio? Maybe a teaser trailer/concept art within the Ratchet & Clank Acit showcase....

Hey Sony want to drop a real megaton? Just show Uncharted 2 in detail and then announce Jak 5 for PS3.Yup the show just got bigger.It'a all conjecture,but some of it will stick,and I do believe make it a massive show for Sony...

Nintendo? Kid Icarus,Mario and or Zelda make their show.These games beyond whatever else they show casual or hardcore will make or break their show IMO...

Microsoft? They will have multi-plats.But to help them stand toe to toe with SONY they need to show exclusives.Whats Rare going to show? KI,PD,Conker,Kameo2,a new IP? Perhaps 1 of them for the Fall,and the other for next year.To go along with something for the casual World,Microsoft know real well where the ca$h is.

If they show Allan wake,and it is indeed a show stopper,along with Splinter cell,Forza 3,ODST and Mass effect 2 they will be vindicated.Throw in some new out of nowhere unannounced 1st party IP and they will stand tall near Sony,I dont think as strong as Sonys line-up,but strong enough.Only a good thing for us PS360 owners...

Lots of conjecture,and if's and coulda's and ??? But some of this will happen to go along with the already known 20 or so major titles coming.I think it will be big no doubt,but can it be ("HUGE"?)

N4g_null5489d ago

Man reading these comments reminds me of nintendo fans back when it began struggling. What happened to the sony fan that believe this will be the year of the PS3?

Has the hardcore fan realized how small there group really is yet? Or better yet how splintered their group is because what is hardcore to you is not hardcore to every one.

The best thing SONY could do is to start making games that make people want to try other types of games instead of the ones that have dominated gaming in the HD realm so far.

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ultimatek15489d ago

Building hype for sony!!! hmmm, reporters doesnt learn and doesn't tire of the same thing. The didnt learn about killzone overhype failure, a perfect example. As i said once, building too much hype can cause the opposite effect on the buyer, from a possible inversion into be scare from investing on console or game. Let the time account the announcements, news or success, and not mediocre articles with out solid proof of anything. Remember E3 last year, nobody saw what MS did, did MS build overhype? NO. Lack of information isnt equal to lack of titles, marketing or capacity. Most game reporters dont even know what they're talking about, the just comment in base of popular thinking. If they really knew whats incoming, the story would be a hell different.

Being desperate for publishing things without valid sources and solid proof of the statements of a report, only cause misconception in potential buyers, and puts them far away of the possibility of investment. i said the killzone 2 was an example, sony reliaed in onlline marketing and hype, but didnt work to create a true scenario of a great incoming game, the decition to let reporters and game websites to manage marketing and hype for the game failed to capture investment. Buyers need evidence and proof, not hanging words on articles and reports. Killzone is a great game but is Sony's own fault for the failure in sales. A game like it, could have sold over 4M and not 1.1M(officially confirmed up to now).

Let the gamers decide, what will be great or not, not reports or articles, building hype from air, so then when deception comes, they go fast an tell Sony lied, and they are sad cuz didnt see this didn see that, it wasnt announced, for Christ sake, if game media creates such conception then they should accept they role on failure and not acuse companies.

Game media, every day talk about PS3 price drop, then when that comes, it will be ablow to MS, they tell it will come next mon th, gamers react waiting for this, then sony said that don't plan a ps3 price cut, then gamers are in deception, whos fault is? Game media. They have been fucxing with the price drop the entire year 2008 and up to now mid 2009. They dont realize they are hurting Sony, when they build hype only to get deceptions on a never ending cycle up to now, and it will continue cuz my opinion doesnt matter a sh!t.

My advise, wait for official announcements, not buggy articles.

get2sammyb5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

You didn't read a word did you? Fair enough. Essentially renders your point irrelevant.

I would have been happy to discuss it with you too. Come back when you've read the article.

EDIT: To actually clarify that you didn't read, I only read the article once but, from what I read no game mentioned in the article is currently unannounced apart from Team Ico, which common sense says we can assume. All other statements are based on quotes from John Koller or previously announced games.

KingKionic 5489d ago

halo was hyped and sold Very well.

Max Power5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

hello Alex, nice to see your comment twice, once on the article page and once here.

tplarkin75489d ago

A launch title for a new console by a newcomer had zero hype. In fact, there was only skepticism. After the reviews and word of mouth, Halo became a phenomenon.

You can argue that Halo 2 and 3 were not hyped, either. There's a difference between high expectations based on previous experience, and hype without any basis. Motorstorm, Haze, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Killzone 2, were all hyped without any basis. That hype was driven by Sony fans that wanted a killer app. None of those games had predecessors worthy of high expectations.

Diamondwolf5489d ago

Soooooooo.........what you're telling me is that you don't want a Halo Mountain Dew?

pfft not hyped! *giggles like a schoolgirl*

Ok, now, on to the topic. Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT expect anything from Sony, trust me. I expected last year, I was shot down. I expected 2 years ago, I was shot down. All I expect now is that they'll announce something that won't be ready until 2012/2013 sprinkled with a few pre-christmast 09 announcements and then the rest is just flair.

The only thing sony did very well last year was the LBP presentation, and that was the hottest thing to happen in E3 2008.

With that said, I am still looking forward to sony's conference, as well as Microsoft and Nintendo, until then. Do not fall for the hype.

~DW

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ultimatek15489d ago

I did read it. It said nothing, only possible scenarios, that if they fail will bring more deception to sony fans.

@KionicWarlord222, yeh Halo was hyped, but it was hyped in both fronts, with proof of the game concept directly arriving to thegamer not by comments or articles, that how Killzone, was supposed to be marketed but it didnt.

get2sammyb5489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

Please cite a paragraph where a "possible" scenario is mentioned aside from the Team Ico sentence, because I've read it and I didn't see any assumptions really.

Are you telling me you DON'T expect the previously announced God Of War III, Uncharted 2 or Heavy Rain to be at E3?

Are you telling me that you think it's "speculation" that Sony aren't going to bring their biggest games to the biggest games show of the year?

I'd agree it's presumptuous; but in a way that is basically TOTALLY obvious.

ultimatek15489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

1. Title(big in history, how and what will be the cause, anything official?)
2."Pile of games", "software in abundance"- connotation for hyping a slow growing game library(a fact, not a perception), its almost like a marketing statement
3.Gonna CHange at E3- How? With What?
4.So many games dropped at e3- Have u follow past e3 expos?, in fact there are less titles announced than 2005 and 2006, when X360 and PS3 where launching and needed real hype
5. Quality content- Which one, its the same across consoles(and dont even mention Home)
6.Perception has to change- How the fucx, if you didnt said anything and didnt bring anything to the table, not even a official statment or fucxing rumor

Bro im sorry but the article lacks information, itsn't informative, is misleading. The games u said, are officialy announced since PS3 launch, nothing new.

He could have, used x360 ceo comments about PS3 price drop, which in fact reflects the rality of sony corporation, that way, its using conception from air, they aren't baseless.

The whole article is like a letter of desperation from a frustrated fanboys that wish anyone listen to him that the PS3 will change, that kind of letter create the opposite effect, bTW did u read my post/letter?

@KionicWarlord222 (yep haha)

KingKionic 5489d ago

its ok man its just article take it ease.And yes i understand what you meant about halo 3.

get2sammyb5489d ago

I would counter those points:

1) The title states "could" therefore not representative of fact. It's also a follow up to Sony's marketing director who stated it would be Sony's biggest conference in 11 years -
http://www.vg247.com/2009/0...

2) At the end of the day, the article is a column clearly focused around opinion, and it discusses the fact that there is "software in abundance" despite public perception which this E3 "could" change. It's a discussion.

3) The article discusses that the "perception" of a "lack of software on Playstation 3/PSP" could change with the lineup Sony have planned this year. Yes, I agree, it's presumptuous of the fact that Sony will bring all their big games to E3 but, are you willing to tell me that they're not going to mention, for example, God Of War III at E3? Because of course they are.

4) Previous E3's have nothing to do with this years E3. That's irrelevent.

5) Don't understand your point here.

6) Reread response 3 in this comment.

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Spike475489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

This E3, I expect Sony to do the same again and show some gameplay footage of GOW3.

I expect MS to show off some exclusives aswell(1 or 2) because it really looks like they need it.

If Sony gives the PS3 a price cut and improves its marketing, the console can defenitly start to outsell the xbox360 again in North America. But again, Sony never seems to learn the "marketing" part.

king dong25489d ago (Edited 5489d ago )

and then, we SHOULD all ignore this irrelevant thread until a few months after E3....then we will know if it really was a turning point!

get2sammyb: your trying to hard! especially with the attck and defense of whats obviously your blog.

c'mon, when is this site going to be renamed b4g(blogs4gamers)?

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

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thorstein41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville40d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi40d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein40d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos40d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein39d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan40d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long40d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8841d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake40d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts40d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername40d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai40d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long40d ago (Edited 40d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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JL2930173d ago

Both requels over 2 and 3? Clowns. Those are two of the most boring games I've ever played.

Snookies12173d ago

GoW 3 was amazing, but I personally hated just one thing. (This is on me alone, because I was dumb, lol.) I hated that you couldn't skip cutscenes on repeat playthroughs. I had to go back through the game a third time because I missed one trophy accidentally on my way to the platinum... The cutscenes were great the first go round, even the second... But the third was pretty agonizing.

Haven't played Ragnarok, but I still think GoW 4 is a wonderful game in its own right. Not sure how I would stack them up against each other honestly.

Monstieur173d ago (Edited 173d ago )

I don't consider the reboot part of the original series. The original series were high-skill games with combos and rewards for mixing things up.

solideagle172d ago

lol square, square and triangle is the only combo you needed. I have played all of them on the hardest difficulties...

Golfcoachh173d ago

Maybe I’m just old school but I just couldn’t get into the last two. Maybe it’s the slower action and more story telling but the original trilogy was by far my favorite.

Crows90173d ago

It's not that youre old school. They're different genres

JL2930171d ago (Edited 171d ago )

Me either, at all. It's just yap yap yap. They try to be a RPG's instead of being action games like they used to be.

Fluke_Skywalker172d ago

I'd put the two psp games over 3 in terms of story any day. But not over 2.

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TheEnigma313173d ago (Edited 173d ago )

My favorite was part 2 and I think Ragnarok is better that 2018.

Shane Kim173d ago

The newer games are better imo.

ravens52173d ago

There is no worst. Except for Ascension, only cause I didn't play it lol. They are all masterpieces. 1,2,3, 2018 and Ragnarok. 1 of, if not the greatest video game franchise...besides MetalGear.

Snookies12173d ago

Oh wow, I actually forgot that Ascension even existed... I never played it either.

Crows90173d ago

I like ascension. It was different and some interesting combat additions.

darthv72173d ago

If you didnt play it, how could you call it the worst? Its not as bad as the media portrayed it. Honestly the worst are those flash games. they arent even considered true GoW games but in name only. At least Ascension is a real GoW game.

ravens52172d ago

Not saying it's a terrible game. Just mean it's at the bottom of my list. I played a little bit of it. Jus to me, compared to the other main games, it's last.

Fluke_Skywalker172d ago

Ascension is the only GOW game I never finished. Hated it.

Inverno173d ago

Can't agree, older games do so much more than the last two. More weapons, magic abilities, enemies are more varied, level design is also more aesthetically pleasing, and agree with those who say that they shouldn't have removed jumping. Was a time I'd agree, but those old games are so so much better, that they really should've looked into bringing into the reboot/sequels.

Crows90173d ago (Edited 173d ago )

If a game is good then a game is good. Doesn't matter what came before or what comes after.

Inverno172d ago

Of course it matters. If not for what what came before there wouldn't be an after. And if something is great before then you strive to make it just as good if not better, after. I personally don't think there's a fair way to judge the new with the old because the newer games are still essentially a reboot, and went a way different direction. But I still believe the old games did it better. I'm probably bias though since I've been going back to old games and have been finding that they lack all the annoying aspects that devs have shoehorned into new games to fluff out game time.

Crows90172d ago

@Inverno

Im not talking about the passage of time here. Im talking about individual pieces of software. If a game is good then it is good. Thats not a controversial statement. You can compare good with good...sure. But you still end up with good. Now if there is a bad game in the mix and you compare you do end up with some differentials between them...makes sense to compare and see where it went wrong.

But theyre different genres and styles which were individually executed very well.

And no. The new games are not a reboot. Theyre a new direction but simply a continuation.
Tomb raider was a reboot.

Inverno172d ago

The new games are definitely a reboot, and a continuation, it can be both which it is. And a good game might be good, but my point is that if there are things done better before it then there's plenty of room for critiquing and trying to make whatever comes after better rather than just good.

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