Halo 3 ODST Leaked?

GamiingFront.net reports, "There's been multiple videos popping up in the internet about Halo 3: ODST another one has been brought to our attention this one is actual video footage." What do you guys think fake or not?

[Straight Life]

The Halo dev said Killzone 2 graphics is possible on the 360.. well let me see it!!

[N4PS3G]

ODST uses the same halo 3 engine..if you expect those kind of graphics from ODST ..then you are crazy

[Straight Life]

That's why the dev should shut the hell up then.

[RememberThe357]

lol

[TOO PAWNED]

Ah this is so awesome, it is so cool to watch at "main menu" of a game

[GWAVE]

This is probably fake...

BUT the 360 has had many instances of games being leaked early or pirated. If this game (supposed to be one of the system's biggest titles this year) has already been pirated....wow.

It sends a big signal to developers if one of the 360's biggest games has already been pirated.

Like I said, this is probably fake, BUT if it's true....oh man.

[N4PS3G]

@Straight Life
huh? they should shut the hell up? why? Some one asked a question and he gave them an answer..
You think engines are made in a week or something? and that because they think they can achieve that on the xbox they are going to run to a studio the next day a make a game? plzz

they can do whatever they want...pluz if that article was true ..they didn't say they were going to do it ..but that guerilla could do it if they wanted to

[Straight Life]

N4PS3G, when someone makes a comment like that, they have to back it up. He'll look stupid if Halo 3 ODST doesn't come close to Killzone 2.

[N4PS3G]

Dude! Don't you understand ? He won't look stupid because

there's no way in hell...zero chance ..nada.. .. none .. absolutely impossible for halo3:odst to come close to Killzone 2 graphics wise . because they are using the same OLD and OUTDATED engine/tech from HALO 3..released in 2007! This is NOT a new game built from the ground like Killzone 2 is ..or Halo 3 when it was released in 07...this is just an expansion of halo 3 powered by the same engine

and secondly ..they said that Guerilla COULD do it if they wanted too..not that they were going to do it

Edit:
btw guys ..don't be retarded..if you are going to disagree the prove me that Halo 3 ODST is using a brand new engine and that its not an expansion ..and then we'll talk

[thebudgetgamer]

but we dont want to.

;) but still i expect bungie to make a fun game

[FlameBaitGod]

It would be extremely retarded if halo 4 used the same engine from halo 3.. and if they did they better of had improved it. If it does I'm going to get pissed, cus 1 of the best games on the 360 and we dont see a graphic improvement? Im sure it will look better than halo 3, and this 1 might even be 780p like they said halo 3 would be but w/e, halo 3 didn't look bad in 640p

[N4PS3G]

Yes...it will look weak compared to Killzone 2 ...maybe they could tweak the engine a little bit ...but expecting something different from the halo 3 visuals is wrong

The game is going to kick @ass anyway!

[jav0918]

the devs never said anything like that....learn to read...it was an ex-bungie employee....

[RememberThe357]

Thank you.

[Bonsai1214]

if it counts for anything, i enjoyed the music. very haunting.

[ChampIDC]

Good visuals or not, it'll be a good game. Not every game needs to try to push visual boundaries. Halo 3 certainly didn't do it, and look how well it sold. Yes, sales aren't equal to quality, but only a fanboy will say Halo 3 wasn't a solid game.

[MicroSony4Life]

This video just confirmed my purchase where do I pre-order.

That menu screen was bad ass bro.

[ShabzS]

dude ur absolutely right... a game looks only as good as its engine and since odst is running on the halo 3 engine ... it will not look anything close to killzone 2... ppl really need to have some common sense here.... if you think odst will look better than killzone 2??? u need to stay off the weed then

that being said... halo is all about the gameplay and super huge set pieces ... really looking forward to this...

[cryymoar]

"we can get graphics like killzone
but we dont want to."

now this is a retarded statement. I like how NOW that the PS3 has raised the bar way passed what the xb360 can achieve, all of a sudden the graphics aspect of having a great next gen game is thrown out the window as "insignificant" and replaced with sales. yet for any multiplatform game, we will still see the same people trolling about how the xb360's graphics are better than the PS3's.

and @ ChapIDC

"Yes, sales aren't equal to quality, but only a fanboy will say Halo 3 wasn't a solid game."
Double standards..*face palm*..ftl..
I dont particularly attack you or your statement, but also, now that Halo isn't known for having the best looking visuals and only great in sales, "sales aren't equal to quality."
Yet any xbox360 "fanboy" will criticize any and all PS3 games, regardless of their meta score and overall acceptance of greatness as discredited because of their lack of "2 million on day 1!!!!" sales.

These double standards are seriously becoming utterly ridiculous.

[likedamaster]

"The Halo dev said Killzone 2 graphics is possible on the 360.. well let me see it!!"

The fanboys just refuse to leave us to our articles.

[soxfan2005]

The way I see it, Halo ODST can be developed in one of two ways. They can concentrate on graphics over gameplay, or they can use the tried and true formula that resulted in Halo 3 having a 94 Metascore (quality), 9+ million sales (quantity), and still being a top 20 seller and #1 Xbox live online game 18 months after it's release (longevity).

[Halochampian]

Ever heard of BETA's??? Even has the agreement at the beginning. Not really pirating if you ask me.

Not saying it is real because it isn't real. But seriously??? You think it would be a pirated version?

[lowcarb]

And just how do you know 360 can't achieve KZ2 graphics? At then end of this generation we will know which console had the best graphics.

Edit below: Yeah but how is the truth trolling. We all know it's easier to develop for. GG and SOny went all out to prove what the PS3 is capable of and spent lots of time and money to get there. Gears 2 looks amazing and was created in less then half the time it took to make KZ2. One would think what could of happened if they set out to prove a point like Sony did. Sorry but i just don't see why your calling people trolls when it's known the 360 is easier to develop for. Also this gen isn't over yet and for all we know something will be out soon on 360 that could look much better than kz2.

[cryymoar]

because after all of the trolling about how "easy" the xb360 is to program for, i'd imagine someone would have done this already. Perhaps Valve?

[CRAIG667]

He was actually an X bungie employee,just for the record,i've seen people talking as if his opinion was an official statement from bunjie or something.

[snipermk0]

- Halo 3 94 Metacritic score because of the $1000 swag bag that was sent to reviewers

- 9 million copies sold because theres a lot of immature kids on the rise

- Longevity because some people have no skill to play any other game.

[THE_BATTLERAGER]

Really? Have you heard of MLG? Competitive gaming. Halo is their flagship game. Why? Because it requires the most skill. I can understand someone saying that it requires little skill, if they haven't got much experience playing Halo 3.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Havent "Halo engine" been used in all Halo 1-3 games? Just upgraded like Dead Rising to Resident Evil 5?

[Saigon]

Do people forget that engines are tweaked to look better over time, and that they have components added on for the engine to look and react better...

Look at uncharted...uncharted 2 which is running on the same engine is looking better than the first...

If gaming engines do not improve over time...it means it is the hardware its scheduled to work for and not the developer...

[RememberThe357]

It's the freakin menu screen... The only menu screen I've ever been impressed with was the MGS4 menu screen.

[TOO PAWNED]

But it is so cool! It's MAIN menu!!!

[IaMs12]

Ive always liked the Half-Life 2 screen. Its neat how it changes as you progress thro the game. Not sure if MGS4 did that never played it.

[RememberThe357]

9 minutes ago | By: pp | Block
MGS4 Queer ass hole.

EDIT: IaMs12: Good point, Half-Life 2 did have a pretty cool menu screen. I had forgotten about that.

[terrandragon]

Battlefield Bad Company's Menu Screen was just like HL2's. Does that count as neat?

[Halochampian]

Halo Wars had the announcement trailer behind it!

Hey.. I know it's not much, but I loved the trailer.

[shortstraw4]

It seems real enough. They are currently at the beta stage of campaign, but the more interesting news is when is the multiplayer beta? That signals the game is near finished.

[outlawlife]

i'm doubting there will be a multiplayer beta, its going to piggyback on halo 3 and use the same exact system that has been in place for years

they may introduce a few new game types but other than that don't expect anything different than what is present in halo 3 already

[Swiftfox]

Actually I disagree. I think we will see a more class based Call of Duty 4 type of multiplayer experience.

[Sharpshell]

btw the thing about not showing any to anyone made me laugh so hard! Now can we see the actual game please?

[FantasyStar]

I don't care if it's fake or not, I just want to jump back into Halo! Halo Wars gave me the Halo itch that MUST be scratched by Halo 3 ODST. Not so much Halo 3 because I'm done with Master Chief.

ODST Drop-pods were GOD in Halo Wars. Orbital Drop SHOCK Troopahs!!!!!

*flails arms wildly*

[ChampIDC]

I almost lol'd in the middle of class when I saw the part about flailing.

I'm still waiting for the many times rumored Ghost Recon style game with Marines or ODST. That would be sexy.

[The BS Police]

It's fake.

http://img15.imageshack.us/...

[batman2million]

wow. that guy is soo screwed.

[socomnick]

Snitch ..... lol jk. I dont think hes in trouble its just a april fools prank and its not like he actually stole the real beta.

[likedamaster]

"Snitch ....."

lol

[Halochampian]

eww. someone uses IE....

well.. at least he has a Bungie.net login.

[tehReaper]

Snitches get stitches.

Haha, kidding.

[Renewman]

@Batman

Because sales = quality right? If that's the case then Halo 3 should be the greatest game of all time according to sales right? Sorry son, things don't work that way.

[batman2million]

i never said that. Where did i say that? Did I imply that?

and last time i checked. Halo 3 has a better score on meta critic than killzone 2.

[IaMs12]

i didnt see him say anything like that. He said nothing about quality what so ever. Although I thought Halo has very good quality, im not saying graphic quality (Which i think are good why do people complain) but its a fun game and you know it.

[ChampIDC]

Sales do not equal quality, just as good graphics do not equal quality. It's the entire package that matters. I think any true gamer knows that. Besides, it's how much fun you personally have with the game that matters in the end.

[Halochampian]

longevity is very important in showing how good a game is. Sales dont always equal quality, but when it's the top LIVE game a year after, it shows how amazing the game is and how well Bungie supports it.

[Pootie Tang]

This is the same guy as the other day?? "call me zeddy" all he keeps posting is a menu screen, if it was ingame footage it might be worth something

[Kushan]

This has not been leaked on the internet. I do believe the video is legitimate, but this guy will no doubt know someone close to bungie. It certainly has not made it onto the internet or you'd have heard more about it by now.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Fake. Nothing to see here.

[psycho360]

Its not fake but video of beta testing. Internet is the best way to create fake news and that beta tester would be laughing at all the attention his lil video is making.

[Neo604]

only someone with a degree in computer art could have pull this video.
simple photo shop can't create this video.
if it's fake then the nerds that create this have a lot of time on thier hands and skill.

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

Lol there is so much fail in the xbox360. I bet the game will be available on torrent site before the lunch.

[terrandragon]

Inb4dinner?

[likedamaster]

"Lol there is so much fail in the xbox360. I bet the game will be available on torrent site before the lunch."

You can definitely bet on that happening. And you can also bet that it will sell more than MGS4, Killzone 2, & Resistance 2 combined. How's that for LOL?

[butterfinger]

If it sells more than every PS3 exclusive ever made combined, will we be able to finally get a decent 2009 lineup? There comes a point in time where you have to ask yourself, "What's in it for me if this game sells x million copies?" Sony is providing AAA exclusive after AAA exclusive to their gamers even though they are being outsold in hardware and software in the largest territory (NA) each month. The only thing I am looking forward to on the 360 this year is ME2.

[Renewman]

What I was referring to got deleted by a mod so whatever. However, don't try to thrown out the Metacritic card. Only reason Halo 3 even got that score was from the ridiculous amount of advertising and hype. Halo is no means a bad game but it's definitely not the greatest game ever as most 360 fans like to seem.

[aueslander]

there is nothing wrong with pulling the metacritic card for that matter at all. The thing is, when you have someone giving props to any super hyped game and it doesnt live p to something esle in many areas, that fanboy will say those things dont matter. Sales, dont matter, overall critic scores, dont matter, number of people playing online daily, doesnt matter. I mean you have, lets sy the halo 3 fanboys pull out tangible items that are pure fact and not subjective, the KZ2 fanboys shoot it down with the same lame excuse.

As someone else already said, its the whole package. Halo 3 got an average higher score due to more critics thinking that AS A WHOLE it was a high scoring game. They didnt give it a higher score because of advertising. If that were the case that advertising influences game scores, KZ2 would have an overall average of like 3.2 with how Sony screwed the pooch yet AGAIN with advertising (or lack of i should say) for one of its games.

[skottey]

Is it called Halo ODST or Halo 3 ODST? I thought it was just called Halo ODST. But it doesn't really matter, it looks fake. Not that there is anything to see, but it looks fake. The "ODST" font doesn't look right. Even if it is real, it must be a slow news day when a menu makes the news.

[ShabzS]

first of odst is running on halo 3 engine... to get the kz graphics a new engine has to be built from the ground up that takes atleast a couple of years... and the ex bungie dev guy said that kz LIKE graphics are possible on 360 ... he didnt say odst WILL look like kz2.... i think this is where ms dropped the ball some how... instead of coming up with new ips and an engine ... ms depended on 3rd party publishers to come up with great gameplay mechanics using some major multiplat engines like unreal .... and some solid games have arrived .. like gears and halo... now gears runs on unreal .... just like bioshock, mirrors edge .. hell even fatal inretia.. u CAN NOT get visual excelence in an engine like that coz more that 70% of games use that same engine and everything looks the same now... its gotten to a point where looking at a game u can tell its running on unreal... now unless you play a lot with the light and shadows on the unreal engine u can make it look good... something which gears 1 does quite well.. but couple of years later (gears 2) it looks old an outdated... mainly coz u've seen THAT LOOK in sooo many games by now

what sony did was very smart.. since they had strong franchises in the bag thanks to ps2 they focused on other areas this gen... mainly graphics.... what did they do first ... they have gg build an engine in a span of 3 4 yrs to showcase the hardware of ps3 something ms should have also done with xbox since launch time... but they werent established enough franchise wise ... aside from halo... to spend TIME developing new engines .. instead they used major engines like unreal to come up with new ip like gears.. and now it might be too late to come up with something new to display the full power of 360.. since the consoles life cycle will be ending in a couple of yrs.... and its clearly not enuf time to come up with something as cutting edge as the kz engine

[SIdepocket]

Killzone 2 level graphics are achievable on the 360. The Halo 3 engine is one of the better-looking and performing HDR engines out there right now.

The problem really lies with Bungie. Their idea of what looks good artistically has always been terrible. I mean come on, who the heck signed off on those character models in Halo 3? Still there were moments in Halo 3 that the lighting and atmospheric quality simply blew me away. It can render some stunnig GI effects and still keep a good framerate which is hard to do with such a fast moving game. It's hard to say if Killzone 2 is even lighting it's scenes as well as Halo did, considering how all of the levels are so dark.

Either way, both the 360 and PS3 will reach the next graphical bar before their time is up. To say that Killzone 2 is the end all be all of this generations' graphics is a little shortsighted.

[ShabzS]

look i'm with you on the halo3 engine ... it definitely has some of the best specular lighting i've seen to date... killzone looks more dark and dull compared to the rich and colour full halo... what i'm trying to say is the xbox 360 CAN do graphics as big a killzone... if an engine is made keeping that in mind.... BUT the problem is xbox's life cycle is about 2years away from the end and its not enuf time to come up with a new engine like that...

i'm certainly not saying that killzone is the end all be all in graphics this gen.. i'm just saying that for the xbox 360 to prove it can top killzone graphics this gen.... it might be a little late.. but i would love to be proven wrong by microsoft... if they come up with something new and cutting edge than yah it would be awesome

[iClutch]

It's real...you can't fake this stuff.

[Kushan]

Sure you can, it's just that a lot of effort would have to be made to make it convincing.

[pshizle]

you never know...maybe this guy is a bungie employee trying to tool with us.

[dolomite]

Halo 3 ODST main menu kicks KZ2's main menu's ass. Yeah i said it, and what?

[likedamaster]

LOL. Classic.

[IQUITN4G]

Looks real enough to me but who knows

Also onto a slightly different subject:
People don't seem to realize that there is a substantial amount going on in Halo3 from individually tracked physic stress and damage contacting, to many vehicles at a time on screen all loaded with an impressive amount of good and bad troops - that's a lot of stuff.Everything is all running around fully independently in vastly bigger spaces to just about any FPS of this type that boasts the same details.What's more if you do actually get up close to these models, they have highly detailed textures with none of the fuzz some supposedly better shooters this gen claim

Actually taking into account how much is being processed, Halo3 is damn impressive

And just so many details that you simply wont have noticed first time round

I was a little let down by Halo3 but the more iv'e played it, the more fun to me it's shown itself to be - it doesn't boast the same awesome feel as the first game but in absolutely no way can anyone say Halo3 plays bad unless they really haven't played it much

Clocked up now 155 campaign missions and no one is forcing me

If ODST further refines like Bungie always does, it's going to be a fine game and grahics by that point really shouldn't matter as much as some here like to drum on about - even though they're perfectly lovely anyway with H3

[PS360PCROCKS]

I think it's real. funny message from bungie.

[Eiffel]

Notice he just skims through the menu and it states its a "Campaign" beta build. Gameplay or GTFO.

[xxBATTLECATxx]

looks legit

[psycho360]

Its showing Beta at the bottom. Someone probably from their beta team uploaded it to create news. I hope they make it more gritty than Halo3 as that game is more or less pg13. If this is competeting with the likes of KZ2, COD XX, BF:BC etc than it better be with improved graphics.

I know Halo fans will lap it up but not me if its not similar to what i said above.

[Halochampian]

halo doesnt need graphics to compete with anyone. It's style and gameplay is what sets it apart from others.

[felidae]

if this is real i'm officially hyped.

can't wait - i think the Halo series is one of the best.

[borgome]

Just had to put something in the 'ol' Open Zone. Can't wait play this game. Halo is fun as hell.

[clichegamertag]

The Bungie warning screen looks real, and it does seem to be in Bungie's informal style, but all of that is easy to replicate.

Without the video going past the menu screen, I'm not convinced.

[TheOnlyMastrx]

Go to Walmart.com and search Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST is on there already for preorder or something.

[QuantumWake]

Isn't it, Orbital DropSHOCK trooper?

[Thoreau]

fine aim and run, i will be all over it. i am getting tired of killzone 2 stages. i just got my 2nd top 3% badge and it is not the same, running through the few same stages over and over again. KZ2 clusterf---s happen at in the same area of each map.

[Thoreau]

i see some 360 only owners posting the KZ2 graphics are possible on the 360. When? When will i see this because it is not in the new halo expansion. I like the phrase, to see is to believe, and on my 360 i have not seen it yet.

the disagree clicks will come with no explanation.

[Thoreau]

on my HD tv the game looks phenominal. maybe if you play on SD television, then yes killzone 2 is nothing special

[SnprSlick]

This is 100% real. I played the Epsilon and it looked exactly like this, the debugging and everything. Unless this dude can model and make music as well as inject those models into the game. This is REAL.