Xbox 360 Hardware Problems = More OnLive Users?

Will the problems with Xbox 360 hardware lead to gamers jumping ship from Xbox to OnLive?

[MaximusPrime]

IMO: only minority would go to OnLive.
Hardcore gamers would stay with whatever console they prefer.

Maybe some unhappy xbox 360 owners might move to onlive but i can't see that happening.

[Aaron Greenterd]

I will have my secretary add OnLive to the growing list of competitors we will buyout and then run into the ground.

Isn't competition great?

Yours,

A.I.G

[JhawkFootball06]

This article make no sense.
PS3 High Price = More Onlive users!

See what I did there

[Sarcasm]

When OnLive hits, let's just wait for the Guinea pigs to try it out first. After a few months or so, if it looks any good I'll try it too.

[uie4rhig]

Don't Jump In, Jump On.. OnLive!
lolololol

article fails epicly btw..

[IcarusOne]

But the idea that 360 owners - which is the console many would say is designed the most for hardcore gamers - would jump ship for a barely HD, lag-fest on the distant horizon of the gaming frontier is so laughable I can hardly keep from sh!tting myself.

[MNicholas]

Onlive as a product/service does not exist.

Onlive as a product/service will be too expensive for most consumers and provide lower quality and performance.

Onlive as a product/service, if it is ever built (will cost tens of millions of dollars just to get to stage 1) will be too expensive to operate and burn through all of it's capital before declaring bankruptcy due to the fact that it's a 30 times more costly way to provide gaming to consumers.

[ThanatosDMC]

Wouldnt it be more sensible to go to PS3 rather than pay monthly and probably some premiums?

It'll be better if they work like Steam but stream the games but the person owns the game not something he has to pay monthly for... it's ok to charge for the game. But to pay a premium to use servers... no thanks. They can just put ads somewhere to pay for their servers.

[Ryudo]

Donkeys eating chocolate cake = More Cancer in the head?

HHG style SON.....

[SCThor]

Yes, most of 360 owners will jump to OnLive. Let's be honest, people keep re-buying 360 consoles when their console RROD just because they don't want to lose all the game they bought.

@1.2: no, because PS3 exclusives so far, don't get ported to PC.

[GWAVE]

Uh....no. IF it makes anyone jump off the 360, they will jump to the PS3 or Wii.

Console gamers who aren't PC gamers right NOW aren't going to change to PC just because of OnLive. There are too many other factors involved. Many console gamers complain about the (supposed) high cost of PC gaming, the mouse and keyboard interface, not being able to play split-screen, the lack of some console games (no Mario, Solid Snake, or Kratos), and so forth. OnLive changes none of those things.

[s8anicslayer]

Exactly! 360 Harware problems mean nothing at this point, if rrod was hindering the 360's success then it qwould be the #3 platform right now but it's not! so no it does not mean more onlive users!

[Mindboggle]

Your right to a certain degree, but I think if the PS3 was the same price as the 360 I think many people would of probably jumped ship, but due to the high price they didnt.

I dont think many people will go to onlive but the fact it will be very cheap, im guessing less that £60 for the box and probably £10 for the PC app, might make some people go to it.

[Chris399]

And not just people blowing smoke. An open beta of the product for starters. A controlled GDC demo doesn't cut it. There's no evidence that they can provide the FPS or resolutions that they promise, especially with today's bandwidth and ISP issues.

[BX81]

That's why I signed up for the beta this summer.

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

Those poor souls afflicted from the RROD will find comfort and refuge on the Playstation 3.The lemmings who continue to support the 360 RROD will be destroyed in Sodom AKA Xbox Live.

[II Necroplasm II]

by looking at the sales and the millions of gamers that are now proud to be on Xbox instead of just playing PlayStation in this Gen... I can see they do not care what your fanboy ass has to say.

http://www.tweak3d.net/arti... < did this cause anyone to not buy a PS3?

[KingKionic]

lol how could the first thing on the home page be this article.how does this even make sense...lol im sorry i cant even understand how it would just be xbox 360 owners.

[Fishy Fingers]

...asks, OnLive.com

Seems a pretty cheap thing to run on your official site, seems they're hoping the hardware calamities do push more customers their way, I mean how else are they? They've currently got nothing other than a nice idea, one thats still a long way off.

Oh and I like the idea of rather than a single console breaking at anyone time, instead they have problems (quite likely) and everyones "console" in a region, country, worldwide? Goes down. Yay.

I'd just rather they showed something concrete, something real, before they start worrying about pinching customer base from the big players and pointing the finger while at it.

[Mike134nl]

How do they figure that, the first person worrying about more competition should be steam.

Though I do agree that it's a solution which removes a lot of possible hardware problems.

[kingme71]

First of all you do have hardware with OnLive. You have a small box that converts the incoming stream and sends it to your TV. You do have potential for hardware issues with that.

OnLive has alot of challenges ahead of it. Just avoiding hardware problems are a tiny part of that. I don't think 360 hardware issues are what is going to drive people to abandon their 360.

Plus the author says he and all his friends keep buying new 360's. Why don't they get them repaired for free?

[CR7JUVE1897]

The stuff that passes for "articles" these days. Sheesh

360 owners jumping ship to something that is basically "vaporware" at this point??

[Joni-Ice]

they will either get another 360 or upgrade to a PS3. OnLive is just online only. What about the people who wants to play offline and dont have internet?

[Why dis]

I can see some jumping ship if there where anti MS ;)

* The 360 isn't going to lose gamers to ONlive because of RROD supposedly being a huge issue still.

* The PS3 isn't going to lose gamers to Onlive because it has inferior games or seemingly less capable hardware and only has a few good games.

* Wii won't lose gamers to Onlive because they'll get board with the console(they buy Wii for motion and classics, I doubt NIN would allow software to be used)

I'd buy a Wii before I would subscribe to Onlive. I don't like the idea of depending on my internet connection for the quality of my gaming experience-in total online multi player is bad enough at 22gps.

Just getting it out of the way.

[thebudgetgamer]

at leat your consistant

:) edit : it seems like you lease games and not own them witch i do not like, and if rrod dint make people leave this will not.

edit#2: even if the ps3 or 360 went away there would still be a library of games you could go out and buy if this ting dies you got nothing.

[cliffbo]

what utter crap! why would 360 owners move to a system that will not be successful for many many years... why is the writer of this article deliberately ignoring the obvious machine for the 360 owner to migrate to?

[Thoreau]

first of all, if your broadband modem goes down, you cannot play any games with onlive. maybe middle age business men may go to onlive but that is it. i will stay with consoles.

[Joni-Ice]

Or people should a WARRANTY for their 360.

[No FanS Land]

what's this supposed to be? I don't see in any way this xbox flaw could bring more onlive users. the only way I see a fair amount of onlive users is through the console gamers that wish to play harcore po games, but don't have that pc they need.

[ukilnme]

I'll jump after my warranty expires and MS refuses to fix it for free. Until then I will continue to love gaming on the 360.

[kewlkat007]

Ok I'm done..

[XPC HARDonE]

If I was going to abandon the drunken abusive husband that is the 360 I would leave it for the PS3 before some cheap tramp onlive service. The best broadband in my area is 3 down and 512 up, thanks AT&T. Plus I would miss the console exclusives. Onlive sounds cool maybe in 5 - 10 years when broadband is up to it, but for now I'll keep my crappy made rushed console, until the PS3 comes down in price, it better do it before the next xbox comes out. The next one will cost the same as a PS3 and use hologram technology, when it breaks we will send it to the magic elf village in texas.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

;)

Not that i want some of these Pondlife Chavs to own a PS3!!! ;-D

[FrankDaTank]

I spilled beer on my xbox once. Would that repair fall under the warranty?

[Covenant]

Thank you, Onlive. I needed a laugh.

[timmyrulz]

and still the x360 continues to outsell the ps3...mmmmm

[OGharryjoysticks]

the main harware problem for the 360 going forward is Microsoft's new system, which many fanboys still think is years away. LOL

It's coming sooner than you think - the next Xbox will be out before OnLive.

BTW Microsoft has no desire to support 2 systems at retail so before you know it you will own an out of production system. Congrats.

[thebudgetgamer]

i have an xbox
nintendo 64
dreamcast
genises ect. ect.

:)

[OC_MurphysLaw]

its about 3-5 years premature. Bandwidth issues alone make this service a pipedream in the near future. Sorry but the VAST majority of the U.S. and the world are not going to have the kind of bandwidth needed anytime soon to use this. This is going to be a very small user base for many years ...and thus its downfall.

[NMC2007]

If people have not jumped ship in all this damn time then why the F would they do it for this unproven pipe dream?
-_- N4G, what happened to you, you used to be coo...... no wait, nevermind.

[divideby0]

We have been fortunate enough to buy every console going back to SNES on launch day. I am on my 3rd 360 and there is no way I will buy the next Xbox on launch day...
MS dont care about gamers..."failure rates are within industry standards"....
fool me one, not the next time.
besides the PS3 will be hitting its prime when the next xbox comes out
I got to hear about the hardware for onlive before I even bite at that

[Quadrix]

Honestly, I'd recommend an N-Gage to someone before I'd recommend a 360.

[W S K]

this theory is retarded!!!
why would someone wait till the end of this year
(thats when its supposed to get serious for them)
to go ONlive, INSTEAD of buying a PS3 OR ship that damn white (or black, or red, or green, or.....whatever)piece of $hit to M$ and get it fixed (maybe for the last time!?? ;-) )

right now no one knows if this ONlive thing is really working as they try to make us believe
(EVERYONE doubts that this concept is going to work....me too......but we will see)

so...
i think everyone wants ONlive to be the next revolution...
but i have a strange feeling about it that IT will not deliver what they are promising.

maybe im right, maybe im wrong.
we all dont know right now.

[xg-ei8ht]

Aaron Greenterd:

I've missed your wit.

Here have a bubble.

[4Sh0w]

well at least they know how to get some internet traffic

[Nikuma]

Onlive is catering to PC gamers who would like to experience certain console games they can't get AND play games on their PC that it cannot handle. Crysis for example. You can have a crap PC and still play Crysis...pretty sweet for some. I don't see Onlive being a blockbuster hit by any means tho.

[DFresh]

Either OnLive or Playstation 3 or both.

[Knightofelemia]

This OnLive thing is to over hyped I doubt they can live up to what they are braggin yeah it sounds nice then when you get it and flops you'd wish you were still using your 360. As for the 360 dying alot well thats nothing new people will probably jump ship to the PS3 or Wii. If hardware like the PS3 and 360 and the Wii are not made anymore and OnLive does hit i am going to stop gamming cause i do like onlinegames and games where i can have a smoke and play by myself. But the hardcore 360 owners who went through more 360's and still there to get a new one hopefully the new system you get lasts longer.

[no-spin]

like Sony is just gonna watch a competitor run away with the industry, come on, one of the reasons Sony is not doing more PSN distribution of full games is because the retailers relationship, and of course bandwidth speed limitations. Onlive has to be available first, then be good,and then prove why is a better option from having the hardware on your hands. I like watching my collection of games, and selling them too, so this digital fantasy is a no go for me.

[truehunter]

Lets see if they gonna do those contract agreement. I would hate to see some 2 years agreement with company like that.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Here we go again with this will the xbox 360 gamers jump ship. First it was the ps3 now onlive. Same plastic different box. I enjoy my 360 onlive can take a seat next to it. But I am not leaving my huge gamerscore I amassed and friends for a start-up system.

[PSGamingInc]

through the roof. LOLOL We know that little prediction never took place. But you know, when you think about the entire situation the 360's hardware problems only provide more evidence on just how bad Sony screwed up with their overpriced console.

[Major_Tom]

What? This means the demographic will only be weary of the next Xbox but it would be naive to assume that Microsoft learned absolutely nothing.

Plus this is still the beginning of a cycle.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

OnLive is going to flop big time.

[ceesiebo]

You already can play games through a browser like WoW or QuakeLive. The only thing Onlive does is connect a small device to your TV that runs something like a browser. The principle is the same, streaming data via a browser.

About the bandwidth : I'm not sure about the USA, but here in western Europe, a lot of people already have 20 Mb/s connections. It comes with a voip-bundle for a fair price.

[MmaFanQc]

= more ps3 users.

btw OnLive=Phantom 2