Konami's Negligible 360 Support: Why MGS5 Will Stay on PS3

Split-screen.com: "If Valve is the anti-PS3, then meet the slightly less but ultimately anti-360 developer. Konami has been making the rounds lately with their teasing announcement of the next Metal Gear Solid. The rumours have already begun flying on whether the game will focus solely on Raiden or if it will be set between the main games of the series. In short, it's doing just what every MGS game has done before and it hasn't even been revealed yet.

"Though it wasn't blatantly spelled out, it's most definite that the company will continue providing their most A-list titles to consoles other than the 360. Looking at development history and recent financial earnings besides looking up past fiscal reports, it's not too hard to predict the unlikeliness of Metal Gear Solid 5 (working title) ever coming to the 360."

[ThePlaystationFour]

On The PS3.

[jammy_70]

that why

but how the hell does this site know that it wont come to the 360???? they no nothin!!!!! just guessing, got nothing better to do just shockiinngg!!!!

[Nike]

We "predict" it'll stay on the PS3. We're looking at Konami's "development history and recent financial earnings besides looking up past fiscal reports". We're also looking at the recent sales figures that blatantly say Konami 360 sales are 3% and PS3's are 38% of their total revenue for last year.

But you can just say we're guessing without reading a damn thing, too. Whatever gets you off. :)

[SoapShoes]

People are predicting it coming to 360 is because they wanted so badly for MGS4 to come to 360 and now that they realize it's not happening, they make hopes of desperation that the next one will. Not saying it isn't, but if you want MGS so bad just get a damn PS3 and you're guaranteed to play it.

I don't get gamers this gen. They're like, "Oh I love PS3 games, but I hate the console". How can you hate a console if you constantly want the games on it to go to your system? If you want to play the games on a system, you want the system!

[gamesmaster]

i'm a big mgs fan, i own a ps3, and to be honest i couldn't really care less if mgs5 goes to xbox360. its irrelevant. I still get to play the game so its win, win. if it doesn't come to 360 then buy a ps3 when the price drops, that way you can play mgs4 as well.

[gaffyh]

Big difference between Valve and Kojima. Valve just hate the PS3 completely, and irrationally because it is hard to develop for. Kojima doesn't hate the 360, but doesn't develop for it because he knows that it isn't powerful enough to handle his ideas.

Hell, even PS3 isn't powerful enough to do what he wanted in MGS4 (Watch his GDC Keynote), so why would he take a step back and develop on a less powerful console? Konami on the other hand may make a port of Kojima's games if they want, but last time they did that with MGS, it sold like sh*t on he Xbox 1.

[Jecht]

I know, I was just making a reply to you since you copied it from the article.

[ShadowRyuX]

Thank you for saying something that actually makes sense! I don't get why people reduce themselves to begging, almost groveling over another console's exclusive, but refuse to buy that console because they dislike it. And instead of starting off on some rant I am going to just say: Be a gamer, not a fanboy!

[njr]

Sometimes, money and high prices show fanboy's true colors.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

Valve is anti-PS3 because they don't want to make a new engine, they would rather stay with their obsolete last-gen engine. Konami doesn't hate Xbox 360, the problem with Xbox 360 is that its lack of HDD and lack of next-generation optical drive made it impossible or very difficult to port this game.

Making it for 360 would have basically been making a last-gen game with higher res assets, and Konami's focus groups probably told them that's not what gamers want, which is why they chose to make a truly next-generation game and stay PS3 exclusive, which is sad for Microsoft and even sadder for its fanboys.

Valve doesn't seem to be a very progressive developer which is why they prefer a regressive system like the 360. Konami, or Kojima to be precise, is a progress seeking dev, which is why they were on PS3. Had Microsoft chosen Blu-ray or even a 3-layered HD-DVD, we wouldn't be having this conversation, and MGS4 would have graced Xbox 360. IDTech 5 would also be just as good on 360.

Progression > Regression

[Megatron08]

wow the stupidity of the fanboy in that artcle if you can call it that is amazing

[Sarcasm]

A few things to take note about Kojima's presentation, is

1. The PS3 even with 50gb blu-ray capacity and the processing power, was still not enough to achieve his "ultimate stealth game"

2. Kojima states that they can still "Push the PS3 much further"

3. The engine that was used for MGS4 is already built, and they can focus more on gameplay elements rather than just story, perhaps what he means by catering to "Western" audiences.

The next game going multiplatform will definitely hinder his "Ultimate" video game experience.

Although what I think is going to happen, is that they are going to make MGS stay on the PS3, but a new IP will be multiplatform.

[raztad]

@Jammy

I mostly agree with you. I think Kojima simply love PS brand and not so much MS console. I have only one console (my loved PS3) and while MGS4 has very beautiful visuals I think it could be done with the same fidelity on the Xbox360 (Crytek engine proves that X360 can pull out better visuals than Gear's), but Kojima didnt want to.

Dvd capacity is no a real problem, MGS is a pretty linear game and Kojima could had split it on several dvds, is it a chore? sure, but a possibility nontheless, but there is a joke in the middle of the game where Otacon says something like this: "Snake at this point we need to change dvd" and Snake replies something like: "Otacon get a grip, we are using BD". That is Kojima laughing over X360.

Finally, I really dont understand this xbox fanatics obssesion with MGS. Someone that has played and love MGS franchise has/had a ps2 and most probably will be getting a PS3 to play the next chapter, so a true MGS fan CANT be a Sony hater. Perhaps Kojima thinks that MGS for the xbox will just not sell because MGS fans got a PS3.

Peace guys.

[solar]

well its obvious that Kojima and his team isnt talented enough to develop for the 360. lazy ass developers. must be untalented as well.

[UltimateIdiot911]

Or perhaps the 360 doesn't offer enough room and processing power to come close to perfection. Besides, exclusives offer way better quality than multiplatform.

If you want to play MGS, get a PS3.
By your logic, Valve is extremely untalented. They couldn't even make the game on PS3 and had to get EA to port Orange box. Kojima's team is far from untalented, they are perfectionist.

[solar]

nice work at catching sarcasm.

[MakoXL]

Maybe it'll be exclusive to OnLive.......

[Why dis]

No one cares outside the Sony camp lol

50 to 8 agrees and disagrees.

The devs would have to fix the 1990's gameplay.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

Simply because it makes financial sense to release it on the 360. However, the general theme here is that Konami only releases their games on Japanese consoles.

If it comes good, if it doesn't oh well, get a PS3 or play some other game. It is not the end of the world as there are plenty of good games on all consoles (even the Wii albeit few and far between).

[littletad]

It doesn't. Metal Gear, never even started on Playstation platforms. How delusional...

[indysurfn]

Yeah and look at Square support for xbox360! Before NOTHING! Now most exclusives from square are on xbox360 plus Final Fantasy XIII is coming to it! So that is a flawed reason because of the past? Hello there is no loyalty in business.

[CaseyRyback_CPO]

dunno.

[velaxun]

You're right, Metal Gear did not start on Playstation, however Metal Gear SOLID did. This is about Metal Gear SOLID, not metal gear. There hasn't been a metal gear game for years...

[caladbolg777]

"The devs would have to fix the 1990's gameplay."

Hah. Good one, Why Dis. +1 Bubbles. But which devs are you talking about exactly? Bungie? Epic? Valve?

[raztad]

@IdleLeeSiuLun

No, it doesnt make financial sense. At this point almost every MGS fan already played the damn thing, some others are still stuck with the ps2 and very few picked up ONLY a xbox360 waiting MGS to jump in to that console. If MGS4 if released on the x360 it probably will sell worse than the one realesed for the original xbox.

@Why dis

IMHO MGS4 "1990" gameplay obliterates any other action-stealth game gameplay-wise, not by chance Kojima has won twice a Lifetime Award.
This game is so diverse, so well put together. Right now I'm at the final battle, wow it is awesome, I didnt see that coming.

[indysurfn]

Why are you people talking about the only significant company that is not supporting xbox360? Sensible thing to talk about is the MANY companies that are no longer putting meaningful support behind the PS3. This is the pot calling the kettle black on a whole nother level. Take your heads out of the sand, PS3 is less, and less supported. Now Sony is paying half the developer cost for PSN developers just to get support. DISPERATE! For the THIRD time Sony has cut the developement system cost down by 50% or more. Now it only cost 2,000 used to be 20,000! Disperate! Lets talk about Sonys first savior Square Enix that had NO-0-wala-zero-zinch support for xbox360, Final fantasy is on xbox360! In the last year three square enix games are on 360 that are NOT on PS3! Hello! Look at many other Japanese Companies. Take your head out of the sand! PS3 has released 250 games xbox360 has released 384 games! Xbox360 is doing fine, just because you concentrate on one company konami's past does not change reality. You are like a osterich running from a fox, finding a hole in the ground, and sticking his head in it! The fox does not disappear just because the osterich does not see him! But in a few more seconds the osterich will feel a painfull byte around his neck then the darkness of the hole will become the last thing he sees. You fantoys are like that osterich. Oh look one big company that is mostly supporting us (kinda like square!) er duh! Lets stick our heads in it!

[predator]

oh dear, funny how you forgto Pro Evo which did very well on 360 and thats from Konami?

[Nike]

First it "does well" on the 360 and then it "sells better" on 360. Which one is it, if you don't mind my asking? :)

Also, the point is "Konami stayed loyal to a user base and with this new generation, where other seasoned devs are scrambling to find their bearings amongst mergers and multi-platform releases, that loyal base is carrying them through."

[Jecht]

A lesson SOOOOOO many developers need to learn. It's true that when you risk big, you can win big, but not in these times. Stick with the guaranteed revenue. I'm looking at you Square-Enix.

[HDgamer]

MGS and PRO EVO are not the same games, also MGS has a niche crowd to begin with.

[Nike]

@Jecht:

Not my words man. They're the author's (my colleague).

Edit: Ah, okay. Is cool. :D

@HDgamer:

Agreed, they're two different franchises. What's important, however, is that Konami caters equally to their loyal fans, whether they like Pro Evo or MGS. No distinctions are made, which builds consumer loyalty and company reputation - two things that Square-Enix, for example, used to possess worldwide before they started releasing sub-par titles (though Star Ocean IV is the best 360 RPG right now).

[gamesmaster]

the article states that 3% of konami's earnings for last year came from the 360, where as 38% came from the ps3. Now if we look at the number of cross platform releases from konami its clear that the 360 just isn't a big earner for them, due to the fact that they almost all but 1 or 2 of their release were on both ps3 and 360.

[eagle21]

LMAO at how 5-6 million selling games are "niche". Why is Snake in Super Smash Brothers Brawl and kids have Metal Gear lunch boxes in Japan? I'm sick of noob gamers. :)

[Megatron08]

given that at least 90% of 360 owners are/were ps2 owners (I actually know oof no one that owners a 360 that didnt own a ps2) Konami isnt loyal at all they are abandoning like 60% of their fanbase.

Oh well they only made like 2 good game is in like 30 years

[gamesmaster]

you buffoon

mgs mgs2 mgs3 mgs4, ZOE 1, ZOE: the second runner, i can list many more good games.

[cayal]

I think the difference is Pro Evo is actually Konami, while MGS is Kojima productions and I imagine he has a massive say in what happens with his games (like Nomura at Square-Enix).

[SprSynJn]

"given that at least 90% of 360 owners are/were ps2 owners (I actually know oof no one that owners a 360 that didnt own a ps2) Konami isnt loyal at all they are abandoning like 60% of their fanbase."

So only 10% of 360 owners owned an original Xbox? You are giving it less credit than it deserves I think, and the 360 more.

[ThePlaystationFour]

On The PS3!

[blackbeld]

MGS always will stay on PS3..... It belongs to Playstation...

[talltony]

if it did go on 360 it would be the inferior version mainly because the lack of bluray. And microsoft doesnt want to fund the rage game with 3 discs. Microsoft will go to a maximum of 2 disc games.

[lost2]

is starting to show its power and with the blu ray capacity
there is no stopping this monster machine

[theEnemy]

choo! choo!

[TruthBTold]

LOL

[Uzesgelen_Goo]

ordering ticket online is FREE!! (^_^)b lol

[ThePlaystationFour]

Are 2 different games.

[predator]

yes but when an article puts in other konami games they seem to miss out the one that sells better on 360...just think they should do there research before hand

[PirateThom]

I thought Pro Evo had sold better on PS3... must have been FIFA... one of the two anyway.

Either way, it's not like Konami aren't releasing 360 games, Metal Gear Solid is the exception to the rule, every other Konami game then gen has appeared on 360 and PS3, this is likely due in part to Kojima being a fan of Sony and having full say over his IPs. It's not like Square Enix where they've just stopped supporting the platform.

[predator]

yeah it was Fifa..

[Mindboggle]

http://vgchartz.com/games/i...

Look here vg chartz lists Pro evo on Ps3 outselling the 360 version by 1.1 million so i dont know where you all got that information from...And yes vgchartz isnt always right but its roughly right....give or take 100,000

[eagle21]

Stop with the false information. PS3 and ps2 get most of FIFA and Pro Evo sales. Japan is big for Pro Evo and PS3 bundles topped Japan those weeks. :)

[Ding]

predator - 1 hour ago

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yeah it was Fifa..

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Actually it's both.

FIFA 08
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...
lead with PS2 - PS3 - XB360

Fifa 09
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

Leads with PS3 - XB360 -PS2.. Note in Europe, the PS2 still sells more than the XB360 vers, which generates more revenue.

PES 08
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

Led with PS2 - PS3 - XB360

PES09
http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

leads with PS3 - PS2- XB360 no show.

So it's easy to see why EA & Konami [along with Ubisoft * Namco Bandai] were stating that the bulk of their revenue from next gen machines, was coming from the PS3, not the XB360 or Wii.

Konami released a stealth game which was an XB360 exclusive which was Tenchu Z and that bombed, yet again showing that if it isn't a shooter, MS fans aren't interested.

[Kratos19]

The 360 does not deserve MGS.

[PotNoodle]

I'd much prefer the PS3 to keep MGS as an exclusive (Both 4 and possibly the next one) but if it goes to the xbox, then fair enough - but i'd still buy it on my PS3 instead of 360.

[maverick1191]

i think why he doesnt like the fact MGS going on 360 is space who wants to make a 6 disc game when you can put it on one disc?

[Nike]

That's one of the reasons, yes. Of course, Ravi (the author) wanted to write a "Why MGS5 Will Stay on PS3" article and not a "Why MGS5 Won't Go To 360" article. It's not just that MGS5 won't go on the 360; it just can't. Simple as that. Policies, technical requirements, etc. all influence Konami's decision.

[HDgamer]

Kojima likes all platforms, its konami which is the problem. Reminds me of Gabe Newell.

[Nike]

Hence Konami being called the anti-360 to Valve's anti-PS3 stance.

Edit: "Kojima likes all platforms, its konami which is the problem. Reminds me of Gabe Newell."

It's like Page 3 - you never say who you hate to the press but you do say it behind their backs. Of course, no dev would be dumb enough to say he hates a console. Except Gabe Newell, of course. :)

[HDgamer]

Gabe doesn't want money, but he talks bs about a console he's never developed for.

[Silver360]

Just own both the PS3 and the 360 and this BS wont matter to you.

[bviperz]

a raging PC and the Wii (for social parties). Then you really won't have to worry about missing out on ANY game. Is what I did. Costly up front, but no worries of turning fanboy-ish in the long run: priceless.

[kewlkat007]

If Kojima doesn't like the 360, so be it. Get a PS3 to play the damn game.

Way too early for this MGS5 jibber jabber..

Yes, valve does well and technically doesn't need PS3 support, same as Konami.

I actually would like to see something new from Konami...give MGS a rest.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

No one wants anything new from Konami. MGS is made my Kojima Productions.

[likedamaster]

"No one wants anything new from Konami"

Speak for yourself. The MGS series is tired and played out, give us a new IP. Show us you can make an IP other than MGS that can be good and sell.

[San Frandisco]

he said plenty of times that he aims for nothing less then perfection,and puts 110% into his games.. and he did that with MGS4 on the ps3 exclusively.. you would think he will want to continue that trend of perfecting his masterpiece series as pretty much every MG game has ben perfected (MGS2 was a mixed one but non the less amazing) on the PS brand.
I dont think he wants to take that risk on the 360.

OH,and i also believe that he said something like he "likes the challenge",as its able make him work for his perfection.

[mrdxpr2]

Konami knows what there doing but mostly kojima knows more .. kojima knows that keeping MGS on ps platforms will due better for the fact that kojima has hes fanbase and bye going multy with mgs it will cost him alot.. credibility.. plus Making a game like MGS4 took alot of hard work and it used the power of the bluray and making MGS5 better then MGS4 will not be posibble on 360 just for the fact that the game on 360 and on ps3 will be a big diference.... 360 no space at all ps3 space for everything . 360 lack or good graphics ps3 has the best excluisve games with graphics

[belal]

so why argue right now? just wait for a while ;)

[Nike]

But they're revealing it at this year's E3. So, yeah, it kind of is relevant now. And I don't think they're gonna sit around like Square-Enix and parade this game for three shows in a row.

@belal

Edit: True. But their game was declared "essentially finished" in January 2008. I'm pretty sure the localization was the only thing left. Square-Enix though, I don't know whether they've finished the game and are beginning localization or just shifting team members back and forth between FFXIII and FF Versus XIII, not to mention getting Nomura back and forth on his 5 odd simultaneously developed projects. While FFXIII will make it's third appearance at this E3 only, they're still a long way off from declaring it finished. I predict another appearance at next year's E3 before it's official release in the US and UK. -_-;

[Avenged Sevenfold]

MGS5 will come put on 2010 at the latest. The engine is already in place and the developers know what they're working with.

[PotNoodle]

I'm sure of kojima productions put forward to sony that they wanted to make the next MGS a PS3 exclusive, sony would help them out with that too - like they did with MGS4.

Kojima said they had lots of support from sony on the actual development of the game, so i'd imagine they would do the same if they needed it in return for exclusivity.

[Nike]

Closely mirrors their support for their in-house franchises. They'll provide finances, time, input and what-not but more importantly, they support the company through thick and thin, not afraid if the project will fail or not. This was done for LBP and it wasn't even a full-blown concept at that point. That's how much they believe in a game's quality. Same can be said for when they supported Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper and Jak & Daxter in the PS2 generation - despite none of the very first games of these series being mega blockbusters on the level of Super Mario 64.

Now, if only they extended this approach to their advertising as well.

[ThePlaystationFour]

im fresh out lol

mgs rules!

[Zeus Lee]

Just because Kojima and a dozen other Japanese game developers(that aren't being bribed with free dev kits)don't care about the 360 doesn't mean every single game they put out will be a Ps3 exclusive.

And Valve aren't anti-Ps3,they are simply a group of ignorant developers.

[Zeus Lee]

I'd like to see the numbers for Pro Evo and Fifa on 360,because I recall seeing both games doing 100,000+ on Ps3 in different countries in Europe-with the 360 version nowhere in sight.

[Socomer 1979]

he's not going to make the next mgs a arcade mini game.
I believe he's going to incorporate the web browser heavily in the next mgs.
Can you imagine if you can hack every computer in the game & a real website shows up with hacking puzzles & mini games?

For you 360 only fans who need a better understanding of what I'm talking about then think about grandtheft auto 4 when niko visits the Internet cafe. I truly believe this is the next level of gaming & we all have hints to the future.
with XI on home, it clearly shows that even videos are possible.

[belal]

but mgs4 took 4 years, and they first announced the game in 05 i think, thats 3 years ;) so i think the game will come in 2011 or 12 ;)

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Hey genius. Engine is already in place and the devs are familiar with the Ps3 architechture! Wow, some people are idiots on this site. 2010 at the late 2010-mid 2011.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

One company's reasons is the specs, the other company's reasons is just outright hatred and stupidity, guess which is which?

[BIGBOSS08]

predator what are you on about? both pro evo and fifa on ps3 outsold 360 version by huge margins! especially pro evo 2009 which sold better on ps3 even in the bloody UK! which is supposed to be the only place 360 exists in europe. hell you can even check vgchartz! even they cant be out of the margin by more than a million!

[Shane Kim]

I will defenently buy MGS5. Not only because I'm a die hard MGS fan, but because I want to support Kojima too. In reality I could never give two sh!ts about companies and such, however, Kojima took a risk and stayed exclusive and therefore, delivered MGS4 a masterpiece amongst games, and because of that I wanna support them.

[Godmars290]

Like ZOE3? Even that cyber spy game that Kojima was considering ages ago.

The franchise at the very lest needs a rest if he's not going to take one.

[Chrisy]

Make a supperior 360 MGS4 version first. And when I say supperior I mean cut all the trash out except act1 and act2 cuz quite frankly everything else doesnt even deserve to be on a gameboy. Price it @ 20$ and you got yourself an AAA quality game, the same quality MGS4 always should have been but was failed by ps3s uncodable CPU.

I bet a million bucks that if MGS goes multyplatform, the sore losers will start to bash it just like FFXIII.

[SonySoldierEternaL]

^

the neighborhood crackhead

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

SHUT THE FLIP UP, YOUR SYSTEM LOOKS SH1T IS SH1T AND WILL ALWAYS BE SH1T, Kojima even hates the 360 so why would he or any of his team want a shiat 360 port of MGS4 and how is it that now all of a sudden you want it MGS4? you first say it sucks and then you say you want it on the 360 in 1 comment...HOW FLIPPIN STUPID ARE YOU!, seriously if i had a baseball bat in my hand and i saw YOU i would knock the sh1t out of you then i would dump you in the ocean but even then the fish will reject you and they'll nibble the crap out of you until YOU ARE NO MORE!!

[TheOutsider]

the neighborhood SLUT!!! Shut up B**TCH!

[Avenged Sevenfold]

@ TheOutsider

I never knew a girl can be a sl*t if she can't get a guy. She's on f*ckn N4G, probably obese and mad ugly.

[Ps_alm3k]

But i would never buy a broken piece of Shat..
That is about ready to croak every time you turn it on.
Plus, most of the game on 360 are on ps3 anyways.

[siyrobbo]

ylod

[ShabzS]

its cooold in here...

[Renewman]

If you want to realize your dreams and ambitions, you do it on the best available platform given to you. Kojima isn't dumb. He isn't going to go back to the limited hardware and storage capacity of the 360 for his Magnum Opus. Yes, that sounds very inflammatory but it's the truth. Kojima and team realize that the PS3 provides them the greatest opportunity to deliver the greatest visualization of the Metal Gear Solid series. Simple really.

[ipe]

some funny comm.here.
first both pes and fifa sold 3 or 4x better on ps3
its cus of dpad and mostly ps3 s much more popular in countries where soccer is no1 sport(europe,asia)and not in 360 land(na)

no matter mgs ll stay on ps3.

[jc48573]

that he only mentioned msx2 and playstation as the main hardware and did not mention microsoft whatsoever. I keep thinking that he hated the console for the controllers and declared that he will never make another mgs for microsoft from them on. Do you guys remember that from anywhere? It was like 5 or 6 years ago.

[xabmol]

The coming months of speculation and disappointed/angry 360 loyalists will be fun to watch.
:)

[ceedubya9]

But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if it IS on the 360 either.

[Bloodshedder]

Hideo FTW!!!!!! i love that dude

[Darkfiber]

Why is everyone making such a big deal about this game? It's probably going to be another crappy iphone game. Get a life you f***ing fanboys, who the hell cares which console you think is better. Like either company actually gives a s*** about you, hahaha. Why are you defending them, all they are doing is taking your money.

[xabmol]

Well I'm not. We all just know it will be a PS3 exclusive because Kojima would never move backwards.(EVER) And all the upset people(360) just want to come here and b*tch.

[no-spin]

Want to play MGS series? Buy a PS3

Stop your b*tching, Konami is moving forward, no need to go backwards

[NoxiousD]

Hideo said in so many interviews, over and over again that the hardware in the 360 is extremely limited and could not fathom to run MGS4. Hideo likes to challenge new technology and anything that seems to difficult to get the best out of his productions. He does not hate the 360, he just knows that it has met it's limitations. MGS5 will stay on the playstation 3 if that is the game he is working on. 360 does not sell in japan, the ps3 is picking up huge momentum it outsold the wii for 3 weeks and still going. Why would he need this on the 360 again? if that were the case MGS3 would have been on xbox and so would mgs4.... just bite the bullet if you want to play metal gear solid 4 or 5 get a playstation 3, a price drop is coming soon anyway.

[rayjelic]

I couldn't had put it in better Words. Pay attention people Konami will be stepping backwards, trying to develop (Metal Gear) for the 360.

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Best open zone comment ever...!

[BGDad]

Hopefully MGS stays exclusive.

[CertifiedGamer]

Kojima productions still ps3 exclusive

[anubis12]

360 fans dont really care.......

but they want mass effect

[anubis12]

XBOX BOX FANS DONT CARE>>>>>ITS A FACT

[GarandShooter]

If your hypothesis is true then how do you explain all the joy 360 fans expressed in all the previous 'MGS4 coming to the 360' threads?

I see two possibilities.

1) You're wrong, and they really do want MGS on the 360.

2) You're right, and the only joy they have in their sad little lives is flying around the internet like vultures, waiting to swoop down to do some d*ck pulling on the PS3 fans. (and I know full well fanboys on all sides are capable of this)

I would like to think it's possibility #1, that they know a good game when they see it and would like to play it.

Which do you think it is?

[fossilfern]

well i personaly just want some nice info on the game but if it does go to 360 i hope it wont get waterd down like GTA 4 was. And MS said there was no need for blu ray and look at how many games on the 360 come on 2 or more discs i bet they arnt saying theres no need for blu ray now :D

[anubis12]

^^^^^ i see you like dudes good for you, but multiple discs are not a issue with consumers.....mabey you because your a ps3 fanboy with a gay avatar with a naked dude on it because you like naked dudes NICE.

mgs4 was sh!t anyways..... go to any game stop and youll see like 5 used copies of halo 3 and 30-60 copies of mgs4.....must be a good game

[fossilfern]

lol your one idiot you clearly dont have a sense of humour and its funny the picture is one of the first things your picked up on and i bet you havnt even played MGS4. So your telling me it wasnt a mistake that MS didnt use blu ray ?

[no-spin]

"MGS4 was sh*t"
4 million gamers disagree.
nonsense bashing gets you no where, that game is so good it makes a good example of what next gen gaming is all about

[FPShooter]

"MGS was sh!t anyway"

Ohh that would explain all the GOTY awards. tell me how many awards has gears2 won. Even LBP took home a ton of awards.

and finally you have a problem with your sexuality so stop calling other people gay.

[likedamaster]

"4 million gamers disagree"

-I know very well a lot of those 4 million were disappointed and got rid of it, me being 1. Mandatory downloads and between each Act, coma-inducing cutscenes to tell a long-winded and obviously overwritten story, does not a good game make.

Cutscenes were better than actual gameplay graphics yet the graphics displayed between Acts(when snake would smoke) were way better than cutscenes. If we were able to conrol and play with the snake between Acts it would have gotten the "best graphics bar none" award not only from me but from the whole industry. Just because you sony fanboys say it has the best graphics(lol) does not make it so.

[no-spin]

just because you were disappointed does not mean the game was disappointing. So you know many of the 4 million buyers to say many were disappointed, please dont make it so obvious you are talking out of thin air

[crinale]

Kojima is very close friend with Kutaragi, and he feels he owes SCE a lot.
It seems like his attitude didn't change even after Kutaragi had left SCE...

[TheNocturnus]

We dont need another movie, we have plenty thank you.

[gersh]

Sorry but...
MGS>Netflix

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

You guys have Netflix?

That's crazy!

Oh, wait...the PS3 has Netflix too...

...from the actual website.

:)

That and the PS Store has almost as many movies.

MGS4 is not a movie. It actually has more gameplay time in it than either Gears of War. The cutscenes are just extra...and they are FANTASTIC!

[Avenged Sevenfold]

Anybody can get Netflix you imbecile.

[pacowles]

Well Konami is a Japanese company, so it's not hard to see why their loyalty and confidence rests primarily with the Japanese hardware developers. Unlike SE, it seems like Konami isn't going to shun the companies that have helped them become what they are today.

[Sackdude]

but Konami never said the 360 is a waste of time and money, like that stupid fat ass from Valve who said: "The PS3 is a waste of time and money"

[criticalkare]

Not to sound like a fanboy, but MGS4 didn't came to 360, and why should this one be?

[deshon09]

it not coming to the 360 it that simple

[HoofHearted]

Since MGS4 DID do so well on the PS3, the big question is this. MGS5 would obviously do well on the PS3, maybe even better since there will be more people with PS3's by then.

With that being said, why devote a lot of money and many more man hours to make a 360 version when the devs are already intimately familiar with the PS3 and made an incredible game using that architecture?

I will be shocked, literally shocked, if MGS5 doesn't remain solely on the PS3.

[Magic_The_Celt]

3 Games...

FF13

MGS4

God of War III

These are the 3 games the Xbox owners have always/will always want

Why? because there huge major franchises with a massive fanbase.

FF13, is now mutli-platform

MGS4/MGS4 - Will NEVER Happen, not only can it not be done due to disk size on the 360, konami and kojima has said again, and again and a-frickin gain it aint happening. time to move on and get over it.

God of War III - Made by sony, so it aint happening period.

[Shadow Man]

I'm not a fan of MGS never have I played one.

But I would like Kojima to remake the first 3 MGS games for the 360.

[razielsonofkain]

suppose the xbox 360 could handle the first 3 games but anything after that is a no go.

[blakstarz]

"well its obvious that Kojima and his team isnt talented enough to develop for the 360. lazy ass developers. must be untalented as well."

That's funny....that's the same thing I think about Valve....what a coincidence!

[Coolrah]

Cry all you want xbots. Because MGS5 will never go multiplat. The sales of 4 proved that it can sell well. Just imagine teh awesomeness of 5 and look at how good 4 was. Now I am going to go back to playing my killzone 2 maybe we can play....oh wait...we can't cause you don't have a ps3...

[Firstkn1ghT]

If I had to choose between Valve or Konami than that would be easy choice. Valve all the way!

[pacowles]

I'd definitely have to disagree with that one. While I liked Half-Life and HL2 (L4D was just ok IMO), they can't undo decades of gaming perfection (Kid Dracula, Castlevania, Contra, Silent Hill, Metal Gear, etc). Half-Life was innovative and great to play, but I really have no desire to go back and replay any of the series; I can't the same about the previously mentioned Konami titles.

[likedamaster]

"If I had to choose between Valve or Konami than that would be easy choice. Valve all the way!"

That goes without saying though.

"Half-Life was innovative and great to play, but I really have no desire to go back and replay any of the series; I can't the same about the previously mentioned Konami titles."

Same can be said about Konami's titles. Except I can go back to the halflife, portal, L4D, Team Fortress, Episode 1 & 2, etc. They are all way more replayable to me than Konami's titles.

[ELite_Ghost]

1 kojima game > 10 valve games...

[kws1065]

it looks like he simply doesn't think about any other platform.

Besides, in common sense, it is a waste of time if he tries to understand all the architectures of another platform and build a game engine for that all over again while he already got an engine for PS3 which works well.

He rather tries to improve the PS3 engine, I guess.

Edit: Oh, somebody already mentions this, few lines above lol

[jc48573]

Kojima-san is trying to surpass the entire metal gear series with the next MGS and that is something I consider mission impossible. There are always people who would find the first one or maybe the third to be their favorite in the series, but if he can convince us with the next MGS that is going to change our minds, which he has the POTENTIAL to do so, then he is a man that deserves my deepest respect. MGS4 is a great a game but I don't think is the greatest of all. Kojima is trying to find that key to everything or maybe he already did and I am eagerly waiting to see what's really behind that door. See, some known developers have proved that games are not just about fun, but what really annoys me is that people don't seem to care cause they can't seem to take video games more seriously. I am waiting for that one day where video games can make hardcore action gamers cry when they watch a sad cutscene. I want them to feel guilty for killing that many people. feel bad about the zombies who were supposedly a family member or friends. I want them to stop cursing and whining, yea, cause the tv won't talk back, so stop being stupid.

[someanimalsdance]

It is bad enough when you scrubs are annoying fanboys, its even WORSE when an entire company is. Im not a Fan of MGS but i think its fairly obvious that if they released any sort of MGS game on the 360 it would only INCREASE their sales. Instead they release things like Bomberman, and Rumble roses and they WONDER WHY they arent making any money from the 360? Plus this generation things are much more clean cut. Hardcore gamers have PS3/360. Casual gamers have Wii.

Last generation i had a PS2/Gamecube, and the xbox came out way to late. So when it came to releasing games it was sketchy. Alot of die-hard ps2 fans. Alot of of die-hard nintendo fans, and alot of New die-hard Xbox fans, plus everything inbetween. This generation its more clean cut. its PS3 or 360. Wii is a whole different creature and isnt even relevant here. So to maximize profits you SHOULD release a game for PS3 and 360.

[keshk]

i think Kojima in my opinion will stay ps3 exclusive ..simply because he loves the challenge and he always loves the idea of pushing the system to the max and like hold the title for best game ever made or like best graphics or best performance or watever ... nothing against the 360 .. no technical bull.. but MGS5 or watever i think will stay PS3 simply because of perfection as he is more than familiar with ps3 programming... its just who he is ...

[jc48573]

something wrong?

[dredgewalker]

....

[be_wrong]

cause the ps3 can only materialize what he can imagine

[LONEWOLF231]

PPPPSSSHHHHH..........Valve isnt Anti PS3 its anti console period.....yes granted it supports the 360 BUT not as much as the PC.

[XDF]

Konami should learn from Capcom. All their multiplatform games sold tons by releasing on both platforms (see DMC4, RE5, SF4).

Does Konami not want more money or something? Release it on 4 discs I don't care, just do it bro.

Can a MGS5 xbox 360 secret announcement Megaton at this year E3 tops GTA4 and FF13, if that were ti happened?

It doesn't matter to me as I have both consoles and can pick and choose but for people with only one console, MGS5, Mass Effect 2 should be on both consoles for people to enjoy and for publishers to maximized profits.

[Da One]

and you wouldn't have this problem.................

There's a 360 sitting in my brothers room and a PS3 in my basement

[Flare149]

To anyone who thinks this is wrong, it's dead on. This is the EXACT reason Square Enix has been having so much trouble lately. The thing istrying to cultivate a new user base in times like this is a really bad idea. Most people are going to stay on the same thing they've always known and loved. Either way, I too doubt it'll happen because now that Sony is starting to be more agressive I don't think they'll let it go anywhere

[commodore64]

when Mgs5 does indeed come to the 360.

[Jaces]

Just like when Gears will come to the PS3.

Anyway....@XDF: if you already have a PS3 then whats the fuss? Konami apparently is happy with what he's doing so leave him be.

[shadow-sentinel]

Just like MGS4 right?

Kekekeke...

[XDF]

I am talking about people with only one console. I did also said I wish Mass effect will go to PS3 as well so PS3 only owner can play the game and vice versa.

[commodore64]

Now it will be even more funny.

:)

[MANTIIS]

When MGS5 comes out, 360 will be long dead.Why should Konami imply support for a dead system?

[anatomyofme]

Its simple Konami is Japanese, Valve is American. They both are supporting there countries console, so what's the big deal? Im from NY and Love the Mets and hate the braves cause there from Atlanta, whats the difference? Why can't they be fan's of there countries pride, which is Sony in the west and Msoft in the east.

[razielsonofkain]

sony in the east and microsoft in the west u mean

[b777conehead]

the atlanta braves are going to kick the mets in the ground this year just like the ps3 is kicking the 360 into the ground. thats why mgs5 will be only on the ps3. GO BRAVES

[Baba1906]

everything is possible we saw it with ff13. guess well have to wait and see. one thing is sure. the ps3 will get some mgs love.

[darkmurder]

I thought Konami only made some slight money back upon MGS, surely if they put it on 360 it would double their profits? Silly article, although I do think that MGS should stay on PS3.

[horndog]

Who cares?? It can stay on the ps3. No sense in blowing smoke up kojimas ass begging for a game that a lot of xbox owners probably have no interest in. I played 4 and don't really care for 5 but it's good for ps3 since they are the ones hurting in sales every month.

[onijutsu]

have a bubble i want to see you fend this one off for as long as you can...
or like many people just ignore it completely.

[dj55555555]

please tell me how can it ever come to the 360 when MGS4 was having problems fitting all its content on a blu ray?

Must make microsoft angry, they may be able to buy some developers and get them to limit games to DVD size so they can have exclusive DLC (that would have been on the game anyway) but others are actually interested in creating something to be proud of.

[deividpaulo]

Everybody HATES microsoft...

thanks Kojima

[dcbronco]

While their hasn't been as much support in the past for the 360, Konami's desire to appeal to more western gamers means that they want to expand their fan base. And the best way to do that in America is through the 360. As much as the rest of the PS3 fanboys hate to admit it. America will spend. To a fault. So making the next one for the 360 makes sense. If people won't buy your product because you want to maximize your profit by using several consoles, then screw them. Those people are retards. Devs attitudes should be the same toward consoles that have fans that don't support their games. If that was the case there would be a lot of devs not making games for both Sony and Microsoft.

[yippie1234y]

i hope it stays exclusive to ps3 so they dont have to dumb down the graphics

[bob saget remix]

barely supports the 360 at all. I doubt this would ever happen. MGS series should just stay on the Playstation. If I were Sony. I would pay Konami to keep MGS on the playstation only. But I highly doubt MGS would ever be on the 360. It would just feel generic.

[lewis]

it cant be on the 360. one reason is that MGS4 was on ps3 so the 360 boys wont no the stories.

[streety519a]

If Kojima stripped the 3 hour cut-scenes to 5 minutes for each one thus freeing up more disc space maybe even Mega Drive owners could enjoy a slice of snake! Go fanboys go!

[ELite_Ghost]

I rather have 1 kojima game than 10 valve games...

[AngryTypingGuy]

Has Konami ever developed a game for the 360? I know Castlevania is on XBLA, but that's about it.

[Jockamo]

...despite awful ports.

That being said, didn't Kojima say last year or maybe two years ago that he would be interested in working with the 360 and that he felt it was a formidable piece of hardware?

The Metal Gear series is great, but I think it has a lost a bit of its flavor. It would be nice to see Kojima work on something new...but just as epic feeling