Will Kojima Sacrifice Quality For Multiplatform?

PSXE writes: So we all know that Hideo Kojima will reveal his new project at E3 in June, and we're anxiously anticipating the unveiling. However, it seems to be a commonly accepted theory that this new title will be made for both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Historically, Kojima has always sided with Sony's brand but he has admitted that he'd like to see his studio appeal more to the Western masses, and considering that, it would make sense to include the 360 in their future plans. But as we've said before that if a developer wishes to focus entirely on the PS3, they can make better strides (just look at the current and future PS3 exclusives), we have a question: if Kojima does a multiplatform game, will it fall short of the quality we saw in MGS4? Would he even allow that to happen?

[popcan]

MS wont allow shoddy multiplayer when MGS finally hits the XBOX 360. It may be easier to just release it on netflix.

But I will still be getting it for PS3 because of the better controller. O.o

[original seed]

I wouldn't mind re-buying MGS4 for my 360. I actually prefer the 360 controller.

[WildArmed]

Yeah, i prefer the ps3 controller. Gotten to love it from the PSX days.

I dont mind if it goes multiplat., since they'll probably keep the ps3 as the lead platform as it works out better for porting 2 360. and sinc ethey have the ps3 engine up and running,
Either way, the more people enjoy the MGS legend, the better ^^
(ofcourse, avoid the multiplayer like a plague xD Its all about the legendary single player!)

[YungXclusive2K9]

I can guarantee if this is MSG5 and not some kind of spin off. It will be exclusive to the trey

[cayal]

MGS will not hit the 360.

[uxo22]

How can you guarantee something like that when you're just some dude sitting on someone elses furniture playing games that we probably purchased by someone also..lol j/k

[thereapersson]

Your comment is so double sided that you can't tell what people are agreeing or disagreeing with

[Dragun619]

Honestly, I don't the next MGS will be multiplatform because of what Kojima is trying to achieve with his vision as quoted

"When we first showed the game engine at Tokyo Game Show, the staff were really proud and happy. PS3 was a dream machine, y'know, and we were going to work on this and that - we had so many ideas. But when we actually started developing the game, we realized there were a lot of restrictions and so it turned out how you see it today. The original vision was to go ten steps further, the reality was just one step, which isn't to say we didn't progress."

Hell, He even stated that blu ray wasn't enough for him
http://kotaku.com/362807/ko...
He used a 50gb blu ray for MGS4 and he doesn't have enough space? How would that even work with Xbox360 if it can't even keep up with some games such as Rage and Red Fraction and the fact that it uses DVD's.
You would need like 4-5 discs for MGS4 on xbox360 and thats probably when the whole games compressed.

Red Fraction Guerrilla pushed the xbox360 to its limits
http://gamer.blorge.com/200...

Rage Will Look Worse on 360 Due to Compression
http://www.shacknews.com/on...

Kojima likes to improve his games sepecially with the MGS series not downgrade them.

[All-3]

1UP: With your debut of the Tokyo Game Show Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer, which has seen wide distribution in both Japanese magazines, online, and in the U.S. Official PlayStation Magazine recently, it really heralded the dawn of the next-generation. Everything else has been polished and nice, but this was so powerful, so compelling you even had to do a real-time demonstration at TGS to prove it was running on PS3 hardware. That said, it makes you wonder how much of a gap there is between the Xbox 360 and the PlayStation 3. Do you think you could create MGS4, technically, on 360 if you wanted to?

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

Hideo Kojima (HK) says: Yes, that's technically possible. I want to express, first of all, it's not that I don't like Xbox or 360. It's just that last year, our hands were really tied to MGS3, so the other Konami developers were able to get their hands on the 360 tools and hardware earlier. But we simply didn't have time to do that last year. So, meaning that we were behind the other developers in terms of 360 development. Kojima Productions has this philosophy that we want to be the first in everything regarding new technology. So after we finished MGS3, the option was to work on the PS3 to try all the new things for Metal Gear Solid 4. The only reason for this is I'm the kind of person who wants to be the first person on the moon, and don't want to be asking "what the moon was like?" from other people. So that's the real story behind selecting PS3.

1UP: It's interesting that you think you could do this on 360, though.

Hideo Kojima (HK): Maybe some nuance or a small details here and there might be different, but I feel that hardware is no longer a matter. I'm just talking about PS3, 360 and PC. Revolution is totally different, but there are really no differences among the other three.

NOTE: Hideo Kojima (HK) said: Yes, that's technically possible. I want to express, first of all, it's not that I don't like Xbox or 360.

NOTE: Hideo Kojima said (HK): The only reason for this is I'm the kind of person who wants to be the first person on the moon, and don't want to be asking "what the moon was like?" from other people. So that's the real story behind selecting PS3.

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About --> Rage looking worse on the Xbox 360:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

UPDATE!

id Software's John Carmack said: "All of the key scenes, the things anyone is going to take a screenshot of are going to look exactly the same on both platforms. They'll (Xbox 360) get the high quality compression. But if you go into some areas in the wasteland, like behind a fence where nobody will typically go and explore, this is where the 360 version may look a little blurry compared to the PS3."

About --> Rage have content cut in the Xbox 360 version:

http://www.shacknews.com/on...

id Software's Tim Willits said: During my talk today I mentioned that we originally wanted to have around 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments but later decided instead to have 2 larger wastelands. Mostly because we were going to be shipping on two DVDs for the 360 and felt that it would play better with one large wasteland on each disc so there would be no loading between wastelands. Not loading levels while you drive around is a much better decision regardless of platform.

id Software's Tim Willis said: There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL. Moving from multiple wastelands into fewer but larger wastelands was a far better decision and is actually giving us more gameplay in the game.

[Sarcasm]

Honestly, the next game could be multiplatform. A lot of signs are pointing to it.

But I liked what I heard from his GT interview,

"Yes, we could push the Playstation 3 much further"

[Dragun619]

@ All-3
I didn't say MG4 wouldn't work on Xbox360 but that it would look worse because of the high compression on DVD's compared to Double Capacity Blu Ray (50gb) uncompressed data streamed at a good constant rate along with some installs.

Also for I mentioned Rage because it too is being Compressed to fit on probably two Double capacity DVD's (8 gb) thus forcing them to remove 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments and instead make one big wasteland for each disc. Thats like Mass Effect's planets were all put together into one big Planet. Though i hope this one big wasteland will be epic.

Also i mentioned Red Fraction because its a multiplatform that pushing Xbox360 to its limit well at least thats what the Dev's claim.

@ Sarcasm

You know it might go multiplatform but i still think it won't just because i think Kojima is one of those guys that just want to be the first to break the barrier or like reach the moon first.
"The original vision was to go ten steps further, the reality was just one step" -Kojima on MGS4 development

But either way, its definitely going on to the PS3. :)

[jammy_70]

if new game is true anyway
putting it on 360 aswell, the games graphics will suffer and maybe the length of the game
KEPP it ON PS3!!!!!

[barom]

If Kojima is still on a mission to make the impossible possible. Then I guess it would be easier to reach that goal by developing on one platform. Then again, maybe that's the impossible he's trying to conquer. Who knows, he may just make the best multiplatform game that'll stand toe to toe with the exclusives as far as both the technical aspects (read: graphics) and the entertainment aspects (read: fun factor).

[All-3]

I'm laughing @ those that have disagreed with direct quotes!

Too funny --> LOL

[jams_shop]

Nice article and all that, but it still doesn't change the fact; MSG4 is out on PS3 and not on the Xbox.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Netflix LOL that was funny.

[All-3]

About MGS4...

NOTE: Hideo Kojima (HK): Maybe some nuance or a small details here and there might be different, but I feel that hardware is no longer a matter. I'm just talking about PS3, 360 and PC. Revolution is totally different, but there are really no differences among the other three.

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

BTW --> Compression techniques are getting better all the time... MANY MANY PS3 games utilize --> compression you know.

You can argue with --> Kojima now.

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Concerning Rage & the 360...

YOU said: Also for I mentioned Rage because it too is being Compressed to fit on probably two Double capacity DVD's (8 gb) thus forcing them to remove 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments and instead make one big wasteland for each disc. Thats like Mass Effect's planets were all put together into one big Planet. Though i hope this one big wasteland will be epic.

NOW R.E.A.D!

http://www.shacknews.com/on...

id Software's Tim Willits said: During my talk today I mentioned that we originally wanted to have around 5 or 6 smaller wasteland environments but later decided instead to have 2 larger wastelands. Mostly because we were going to be shipping on two DVDs for the 360 and felt that it would play better with one large wasteland on each disc so there would be no loading between wastelands. Not loading levels while you drive around is a much better decision regardless of platform.

Tim Willits SAID --> id Software's Tim Willis said: There was NO CONTENT removed from RAGE because of the 360--NONE AT ALL. Moving from multiple wastelands into fewer but larger wastelands was a far better decision and is actually giving us more gameplay in the game.

YOU can argue with id Software as well now - too...

[Montreafart]

We have seen your BS before. You spouted the same nonsense during MGS4s release. It didnt happen. None of it did.

What makes you think its going to happen now. MGS4 is a proven succes story both financially, commercially and received the highest critical acclaim.

The only way you will ever get to play one of the best games of the century, is if you get your act together and buy a PS3.

"but, but, but not everyone can afford a PS3"

I beg to differ. PS3 is 399 and if you saved up 20 bucks every month since December 2006, you would have 480 bucks by the end of December 2008. Thats excluding money from birthdays, and part time jobs. Just allowance.

But we all know that instead of saving money, you took the different road: the hate road. Instead of saving so you could enjoy the real next gen gaming, you wanted it to fail and thats why so many of you are on the net talking shiat about PS3 at every opportunity you can. Your fanboy BS is getting old and delirious. Because nothing you people come up with, is going to happen. That should be clear by now. Not with all those Triple A games Sony will continue to pump out.

EITHER GET IN WHILE YOU STILL CAN AND ENJOY NEXT GEN GAMING, OR MISS OUT ON THE GREATEST GAMES, GAMING HAS TO OFFER. The choice is yours. BECAUSE THE PS3 ISNT FAILING OR GOING TO FAIL BUT THE 360 IS!

Socomnick is a delusional fanboy. PS3 and 360 are not equal in terms of power and hardware. PS3 beats 360 by a factor of 20. And the games prove it. No 360 game is technically better than Uncharted, GT5, MGS4, WipeOut, Motorstorm, KZ2, Infamous etc.

And Socomnicks claims are hilarious and false lies. GTA4 and Re5 were BETTER on the PS3, not worst. Re5 on the 360 suffers from SCREENTEARING, but in his fanboy logic he thinks 360 is better lol.

[IzKyD1331]

"so we seriously doubt that he'd give us a lackluster production simply for the sake of appealing to more gamers on the 360."

Thats exactly what Square Enix is doing

[ZeroBlitz]

I think it's as simple as Kojima wanting to make the best games possible. He's not going to give a damn whether he can make more sales by making a game multi-platform.

Perhaps if MGS4 hadn't done as well as it did, Konami would have been able to force his hand. But, as it is he's going to continue working with the best hardware available to him.

If another team wants to port the code as best as they can, I doubt he'll care. But he'll make sure his version is finished to the best it can be and won't let it hinder the quality of his game.

Edit: @18, Kojima isn't Square-Enix.

[nsky171]

@ALL-3

I hope you know that your 1up quote of Hideo Kojima is from 2005.
We are at 2009 already.

[mt]

about next kojima project i don't mind if it is multi as long as PS3 included

[pain777pas]

Kojima will do what's best for himself and Konami.Truth is the don't do multiplats that often. It depends on his vision and tech specs. Truth is that with games like GOW3, Uncharted2 and Infamous in front of his face and the cryengine running on the PS3 if you want to make the wow game this gen the PS3 is sort of your best bet and his team is familiar with the hardware. But I really don't care either way I love games if his vision is diminished due to it being a multiplat then I'll rant, if not game on.

[ThanatosDMC]

If im going to be Raiden on MGS5, i had better move like a *ucking Ninja on constant supply of epinephrine! Raiden better move and kill like he was doing in MGS4.

That's an all out action game for him like Devil May Cry. We saw him take bullets like they were nothing when he fought those Geckos remember?

[commodore64]

I find it so terrible sad and unsettling to see ALL-3 post undisputable KOJIMA QUOTES that destroy all the rabid ps3-fan illusions, yet he gets buckets of disagrees.

What is the logic behind that?
I wonder how many bubbles the Sonyfans took, just because he posted facts that they didn't want to hear.

Come on Mods. Can't you see the system is broken?

Sony fans, grow up!

[indysurfn]

Okay, right. But me I will go for the better graphics. We know what happens with multi platforms they sacrifice quality for multi platforms. The graphics, frame rate, AI, and because of frame rate the controls suffer. And 19 times out of 20 it suffers on the PS3. Now that may not be the publishers doing because Sony made the machine. But Xbox360 owners are getting a game that will run on PS3 even if half the frame rate. But could have been so much more on 360. At least PS3 owners get a chance to play a lot of multi platform games but I wish they would be exclusive to xbox360. Can't have everything. Keep your controller I will get the better graphics version any day.

[WildArmed]

I guess if you havent noticed..
MGS4/Uncharted/Killzone 2 are the best graphics any console/PC have to offer.

So.. what was about that having 'graphics'.. lol
Just coz they made 360 the lead platform on some multi-plats doesn't mean 360 has better graphics. Burnout has already shown that..

... Reality check.

[Playa7970]

either way it will still come to PS3 why let a great game engine go to waste

[Game13a13y]

and lets hope the PS 3 version won't be dragged down because of the inferior 360 hardware ......... i'm already upset that GTA 4 and RE 5 were both downgraded for the same reason. (look at the lenght of RE 5 single player for proof, it's essentially no different than RE 4, way to go damnit)

[socomnick]

Your argument is invalid, both gta 4 and resident evil 5 came out better on the 360, if anything the ps3 version held back those 2 games. Gta 4 ran at 720p while the ps3 version ran at 640p, resident evil 5 for the ps3 is blurrier and is missing many of the graphical features the 360 version has. The ps3 and the 360 are about equal in power, mgs 5 would have no problem running on either system.

[Dragun619]

I think Game13a13y meant that Resident Evil 5 and GTA4 were limited in terms of content because of the space available on DVD.

Which i think would be true for Resident Evil 5 as you can beat it in 8-10 hours and that's on hard mode which the whole game equals to 7.3gb of compressed data on a dvd. Just Imagine if Resident Evil 5 Was exclusive on PS3, They could have expanded their ideas within the game and added more content, story wise and online to which would fit easily on a Double Capacity Blu Ray disc (50gb) compared to one DVD(8gb)

Don't get me wrong though RE5 was a great game just thought it wasn't worth $60 a purchase for 8-10 hours campaign and then buy the online multiplayer DLC for $5. It was more of a Rent than a Buy.

And as for GTA4, i'm pretty sure it was limited in development
because rockstar made this statement which indicates that they had to give up on some ideas.

"Rockstar stated awhile back that they did not like the storage limit for their game. They wanted to keep it on one disc, but to do this; they had to sacrifice much, according to Rockstar. They have also stated that they do not want to have such a small capacity with the next Grand Theft Auto."

Graphics shouldn't be what gamers want at least the most, but more of what the Content (Story/Gameplay) a game delivers.
EX Persona 4 which doesn't beat graphically any current gen game but it does beat every rpg this gen in terms of content, story wise and gameplay wise.

Rockstar's Statements
http://www.thegameraccess.c...
Resident Evil 5 = 7.3gb
http://thepiratebay.org Search for RE5 you'll find it

[Argento-Nox]

@socomnick

Are you sure about that, b/c I'm certain Sam House from Rockstar warned MS right after GTA4 came out that it's dvd capacity would limit what they want to do for GTA5, clearly disputing your claim that the PS3 is holding multi-platform games back.

I think the whole multi-platform card isn't something 360 fanboys can use anymore considering most multi-platform games look and play the same, unless your using a microscope to look for minor details. I'd really like to see you explain why a game like burnout paradise had all the extra tracks, day 1 for the PS3, while the dvd version wouldn't allow it for the 360 version. Rather, 360 fans had to download it 3-4 weeks after the release date. While your at it, explain all the multi-platform/multi-disc games coming to the 360 in the near future.

[taco_tom237]

hes not that dumb

[Bumpmapping]

He's not going to,it's just 360 fans wishful thinking.

[NegativeCreep427]

Xbot Butt-Buddies want what they can't have (and in the process of waiting, while they don't know if they will get it or not, will b*tch and run their mouths on how stupid or unattractive (or how low selling) that "thing" is).

All one needs to do is look at their claims against Final Fantasy XIII before last year. After the multiplatform announcement, they all started trolling around the web with FFXIII avatars! Stupid Wankers.

[taco_tom237]

i got my first ignore..........whoever ignored me please tell me cause im really happy right now!!!!!!!!!

[Snake Raiser]

From what I have seen H.K. doesn't like MS very much. In MGS4 the characters use mac's, an ipod, and a PS3 controller.

[evilmonkey501]

lol....ignores make my day too....it means I'm pissing someone off, which makes me happy inside. SO far Ive collected two :) bubblz

[FPShooter]

MGS4 was huge a full blu ray or close to it. The game was one of the best I've ever had the pleasure of playing. So I don't wont to see MGS take a step backwards. so I think it should stay exclusive to the PS3.

[phosphor112]

is because it couldn't fit on bluray. They "packaged" up resources and had what they needed (for each chapter) extracted and install so they can use all the resources they wanted. Of course, they still had limitations, because you can only packacke so much, they didn't want to have to install the whole bloody game.

[ssipmraw]

from the look of your avatar you pulled that out of your ass.

[phosphor112]

Anyway...what I said was.

Why else would MGS4 have installs? If not for a performance boost and storage? Seriously, tell me WHY they would have installs??

[Darkiewonder]

If he wanted to sacrifice quality MGS4 would have been on the 360 as well in the first place. Let's just keep moving on forward now.

[PirateThom]

I doubt it.

When you have an engine that you've built from the ground up for PS3, you don't just abandon it after one game to invest more money making a cut down multiplatform engine.

You also don't complain about lack of space on Blu-ray to go back to DVD9.

Kojima is, whether anyone wants to accept it, an Apple and PlayStation fan. That's the only two platforms Metal Gear Solid has appeared on since Kojima Productions formed. If it was about sales, Portable Ops would have been on DS.

[RememberThe357]

That is a damn good point.

[Daishi]

You do realize that Metal Gear Solid 2 was also on the original xbox right? On top of that, remember Twin Snakes on the cube?

[PirateThom]

Both of which were before Kojima Productions formed, so, thanks for proving my point.

Edit: In fact, since 2004, when they formed, the only non-PS games Kojima Productions have made is MGST on iPhone this year and Lunar Knights on DS in 2007. And certainly nothing multiplatform.

[Daishi]

One point that I would like to make is that he likes Nintendo but they went in the opposite direction with their console this generation than what he would have liked. Now we know he doesn't like MS, however, the argument going on within himself now is should that keep all of the xbox gamers from getting to play his work. That's what's going to decide wether or not he will go multiplat this time around.

[PirateThom]

It's not though. This isn't about having people play the game, they can buy a PS3 to play MGS4, which is what both Hideo Kojima and Ryan Payton said, it's about Kojima's vision for the series.

If Kojima wanted people to play his games, MGS4 would be on 360 now, but it's not because he made it for PS3 with his team using the PS3 to the best of their abilities. Anything less doesn't work with what his team created. A multiplatform Metal Gear would always be a downgrade over an exclusive MGS.

The fact is, Metal Gear is still a relatively neich series with the majority of sales coming from fans, not people who happened across it in a shop. Why downgrade the experience for us?

[umair_s51]

Kojima has actually scraped his engine before, so there is a possibility that he might do it again. He scraped MGS2 engine and made a completely new engine for MGS 3.

But I still doubt if it will appear on the 360

[PirateThom]

Indeed, but Snake Eater had the unique problem of uneven terrain, so the previous collision detection engines were useless due to taking place in facilities with even flooring.

[theEnemy]

MGS2 is even on the PC as well.

But if Kojima liked the idea of making multi-platform games, why does MGS3 a PS2 exclusive ?

:)

[caladbolg777]

Also, Twin Snakes for the Gamecube was developed by Silicon Knights. I see that you've noted something to that effect in a comment below. However, it doesn't seem fair to list Twin Snakes as a Kojima production... well... cause it wasn't.

[Silly gameAr]

Namco is porting Tekken 6 over to the 360. Hell, the arcade model of Tekken 6 was based on PS3 technology. I hear they're having some problems, but I'm sure Lens of Truth will be sure to point out the differences when T6 drops.

Anyway, as long as the story has that epic feel and gameplay is solid, I don't care what system the next one comes out on.

In fact, It would be interesting to see if the 360 can get the job done. We know the PS3 can based on MGS 4.

E: How did my comment get way down here? It was @P.Thom

[moblin]

I hope not

[dinkeldinkse]

He doesn't seem that big of a 360 fan

[moblin]

Quality is one of the factors that represents Kojima Productions. Jeopardizing the quality of a game will only make Kojima Productions look bad IMO

[UltimateIdiot911]

Sounds like a company we know. Starts with an S.

[Daishi]

If he goes multiplatform he'll do the exact same thing he did for Twin Snakes and outsource to a developer with more experience on the new platform. He's done it several times with outstanding results.

[WIIIS1]

The only quality I saw in MGS4 was the visual cinematics. And even that required long hdd installation.

[CobraKai]

To me, Metal Gear is one of those games I actually think should only be on PS3. Just like Gears of War should only be on 360. Some games should just stick to one system to fully utilize their capabilities.

[Kamikaze135]

Going multi platform ruins things. Being able to fully take advantage of a console without having to worry about re-programming the game can bring about lots of great things.

[DNAgent]

We've all seen what happens when a game that could've been exclusive becomes multiplatform (it ends up flopping). The game could be a lot better if it was exclusive and after having played MGS4, it would be horrible feeling to play a watered down version of MGS5 just because of it going multiplatform. I would still play MGS5 if it went multiplatform (unlike FF but that's mainly because Square-Enix is a garbage company that makes mediocre games; even last gen their FF games sucked) but I wouldn't buy MGS5 if it went multiplatform as I would be too embarrassed to even have that in my game collection.

[deshon09]

he is not a fan of the 360 at all

[Kamikaze135]

Kojima is way too ambitious. He felt limited by the PS3's blu ray capacity so imagine how he's feel about DVD. He seems to care more about getting his vision to come into fruition than to print money. Who knows, though?

[Sarcasm]

It's true, but what if his new vision is to make "The Ultimate Multiplatform" game.

Nobody knows except Kojima, and God.

[SleekDeF]

since theirs proof of the 360 holding the ps3 back and kojima complain that blu-ray was too small for him he will not stress port qualty

watch his keynote the only way he would go multiplat if the 360 uses blu-ray

[Why dis]

"360 holding PS3 back"

So if PS3 was using DVD9 and the 360 Blu-ray, multi platform games would be superior on PS3 and inferior on 360 then?

[Ischan]

@dis...
The fact is the other way around.
Your 'if scenario' will extend to another 'if scenario'. It won't end really.
Stick with the fact, mate.

[chidori666]

im worried than this because 360 is inferior condsole than ps3.....

[squidyj]

Kojima talked about using western design philosophies regarding technology based design. I think that sort of thinking would preclude multiplatform support.

[UltimateIdiot911]

DVD9 begs to differ.

[Common Sense]

Multiplatform games don't bother me but the fact that they don't take advantage of either consoles capabilities is what gets me angry.

If MGS4 comes out on the 360 tomorrow, I'm not going to enjoy the game any less than if it was exclusive.

If developers are willing to take advantage of both consoles, I say port away but unfortunately that's not the case.

MGS5 could come to the 360 for all I care as long as I get to play on my PS3 at the highest quality that Kojima could make it. So basically, if making MGS5 multiplatform doesn't affect the quality on the PS3, I will be getting me a copy but if it's compromised, other PS3 devs will be getting my money.

Fanboyism aside, nobody deserves to pay $60 for a gimped or compromised game. We, gamers, must stand united and demand better quality games. Speak with your money. This is the true spirit of capitalism. Is anybody with me?

[Ischan]

MGS goes multiplatform ? Not likely the path, the chance is slim.
Multidisc DVD9 is likely the limitation, should MGS goes for mplatform.
John Carmack has stated in his Rage development about 360 multidisc in order maintain the same quality as PS3 version.

Well, anyway when MGS5 released, PS3 install based would be surely larger then currently. And it is 2-3 years later.
By then, there is no reason to go to multiplatform, if instal base is the main reason.

MGS5 spin-off would be fair, I guess. Kinda web of shadow PS3/360 and PS2.

****

[Obama]

If it is some other games, then it may be multi. If it is mgs5, then it will be most likely exclusively to the ps3.

[nurdeens]

it dosent mean if it goes multiolatform that dosent mean its not gona be great

[ApocalypseShadow]

bluray and ps3 are a "theater" experience.

xbox 360 was a dvd experience.

wii was a.....f#ck wii!who cares.

but the point is,i know kojima wouldn't want to lower his standards to support 360 unless the game he was going to make wasn't pushing the hardware.but he seems to be a man that likes to go forward and push boundaries with his games.

MGS
boktai-go outside and play in the light
policenauts
zoe1,2(got d@mn number 2 was good!)

360 fans might be used to substandard gaming with dvd,component(there was over 10 million of you before ps3 launched.that's almost a third of you),720p,p2p,old unreal engine 3 and 5vs5 as being better than 20vs20 or 30vs30,buying batteries,sending systems in for repair,getting refurbs(someone else's fricken broken,then fixed system)from microsoft,loud jet engines and such.

but ps3 fans don't stand for that.we expect better.the developers making ps3 games want better.sony wants better with some games being considered art like flower,ico,sotc,linger and such.kojima doesn't seem lazy or care about tons of money.

i expect kojima to make the right decision and make his next console game exclusive to ps3.if not,it would be like running backwards away from the finish line in a foot race when you're so close in crossing the tape..

apocalypse................

[Shadow Man]

:D :D :D
:D

[NegativeCreep427]

Delusional D*ck-head at 12 O' Clock!

What about E3 09? You waiting for that announcement of the much anticipated Gears of War 2 patch that bumps up online multiplayer from 5-on-5 to 6-on-6?

[shadow-sentinel]

Yeah hope so. Judging from this years GDC, Microsoft was a snorefest.

Bu bu but where are the great gamez?!?11 *sniff*

Ahahah, just remembered. Me seeing you again in a Kojima article further proves you're an MGS fan.

http://n4g.com/RedirectToOb...

:)

[Shane Kim]

aaaah, you mean like e3-06, e3-07 and e3-08 when you thought MGS4 would be multiplat?

[infekt]

I love these imaginations! lol. 360 fan base is becoming a joke!

[jkhan]

Why don't we all wait till E3 and see whats announced rather than chewing each other head off. It will be pretty amusing and disheartening at the same time, if Kojima San walked the stage like Wada did on MSFT keynote and said MGS5 coming to 360 & again that will be a major announcement for 360 that a ps3 exclusive is now a multiplatform title. Because for the last few E3s microsoft major announcement always rotates around ps3 exclusives gone multiplatform.

[Sarcasm]

Agreed.

Once E3 hits, I won't be surprised to see a 360 exclusive franchise become multiplatform or vice versa for PS3.

If Bioshock, Ninja Gaiden, Eternal Sonata, Devil May Cry, RE5, Tekken, FFXIII etc. etc. doesn't convince people that 3rd party exclusives are getting rare, then I don't know what will.

[tawak]

exactly!will be presented as a bomb on microsoft side
c.mon guys look what happened to ff13
this around its mgs,face it people
kojima may not accept any bride from m$ but konami may pretty much be..

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

I hope not. I want the best possible experience when it comes to Metal Gear games.

[timmyrulz]

Title should read "kojima is going to give us game play instead of 10 hours of cutscenes"

For those who skips cut scenes anyway, mgs 4 was good but after act three the gameplay lasts about an hour, two at the tops

[commodore64]

yeah i agree.

It seems Kojima has finally got his 'movie-making' bug out of his system with the cutscene-fest that was mgs4.

Now he's ready to make real games.
And funnily enough, it sounds like the 360 is back on the agenda.

Hence, we can infer that for Kojima:
ps3=movies
360=games

[Kurylo3d]

I hate these stupid articles. Everyone knows the game would look better and perform better on the xbox360. Anyone who says different is full of sh*t.

[deshon09]

lol what are you smoking

[jessupj]

Can anyone see the irony in that statement?

Even the 360 fanboys can't deny the ps3 is technically superiour, execpt you.

[rmedtx888]

Kojima is very demanding when it comes to quality. I wouldn't be surprised if the next MSG comes in 2 Blu-ray disks, if you translate that to DVDs it's just way too many

[xabmol]

Lets make this easy.

Will Kojima Sacrifice Quality?

I think we all know the answer to this.

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

It must suck to be a 360 owner. They can only dream of a Metal Gear game for their beloved system, while PS3 owners can skip the dreaming part and really play it in reality.

[Belasco]

It does not suck to be a 360 owner. Unless all those hours I was playing games was not really me enjoying myself, but being brainwashed into THINKING I was having fun by evil, evil M$.

[REALgamer]

After all, last generation the Xbox was the most powerful and I didn't see complaints that a game appearing on PS2 would make it worse.

Now this generation why would a game being on 360 make a game worse?

As long as the developer spends the time optimizing the game for each platform there's no reason why it couldn't be amazing on both.

Hopefully 360 and PS3 gamers will both be able to enjoy Kojima's next MGS.

[BIGBOSS08]

th fact that kojima complained about 50gb disc space probably has something to do with it.

[BIGBOSS08]

nope

[BIGBOSS08]

yeh and that thing about the "western stuff", i dont see that as a problem really, ps3 is still the preffered console in europe and obviously japan and once it gets a price cut im sure the ps2 owners in america will finally get a ps3. anyway hasnt anyone realised that the MGS sales dont depend on how many consoles are out there? they alwasy sell around the same amount no matter what because its mostly the same fans buying them! like me!

[PistolPumptMonk]

Nice avatar!

[Mr_Luke]

Good, the new MGS multi rumor begins...

[xabmol]

Some people still think it's coming to the boX.

If Konami put a green gun up on the MGS4 website we would have 20 articles on N4G within the hour.

[punkpop101]

He will because money conquers everything these days.And stop talking about the dvd / blu ray thing because then maybe in mgs 5 make a fun ps1 mgs because of swapping.Why noone ever said anything back in the ps1 days?

[jessupj]

Money is definitely all ms cares about, but hideo has an unwavvering passion for his games. We can all see this is ms tatics and the quality of hideo's work.

If people are smart and really think about it, there's a very slim chance mgs5 is coming to the 360. Hideo isn't going to go to the trouble of making a completely new engine or heavily modify and downgrade the existing mgs4 engine just so it can work on the 360. That will cost a lot of money for little result.

Hideo wants to make the best game he can. He can only do that by focusing on the ps3.

[punkpop101]

sacrifice quality because of multiplatform.That's pure ps3 fanboyism

[cmrbe]

is the only series i want sony to pay to stay exclusive.

Hear me out.

Every former PS exclusive series that have gone multi have gone backwards. DMC, GTA and i also fear for FF13. If MGS5 goes multi i am sure it will be gimped and it will kill another great franchise. The greatest imo. This is the reason why there should be more than 1 console. Exclusives!!. This is the reason why i wasn't too happy when bioshock went multi and even NG2. I want each consoles to have thier onw unique exclusives to push their own respective platform.

[Nick212004]

It looks like some websites are starting to write articles based off of mine.

http://n4g.com/NewsPending-...

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Droids scared sh!tless over this they wrote a whole new book of excuses.

[Belasco]

Is it just me or do the vast majority of these comments being posted seem like a crazy homeless person ranting at someone who isnt there?

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

There sure are alot of excuses from the Sony camp just to cover up the fear of this game going multiplatform. I played MGS2 and half of 3 and just went right back to Splinter Cell.

[xabmol]

No, seriously.

*looks at name*

Oh, ok, I get it now. lol Keep trying.

[giovonni]

This time around yeah I think he will. One of the main reasons why MGS4 was possible only for the ps3 were the cut scenes. If we simply take away the mission Briefings and cut the cut scenes down to five minutes a cut scene it can be played on the 360.

Lets be real people. How long is the average cut scene vs game play? You guys forget, that the game isn't based off of pure game play like the past Metal Gear Solids. Granted, in the past Metal Gear wasn't known for it's length in cut scenes.

I can only speak for MSG AND MSG2 most of the story telling took place on the com or were cut scenes that were at most five minutes long, the longer cut scenes were there to set the stage like intro, flash backs, etc. I think this time around Kojima can tell a new story with out having to tie up loose ends of the pervious installments.

[Keowrath]

I don't see Kojima releasing a sub par game. As long as it's available for the platform I own and it's decent quality, I don't care what other platforms the title is released on.

I AM an MGS fanboy so as long as it's decent and I get to play it, that's all that matters.

[giovonni]

their has been a lot of nonsense talk about "if it goes to 360 it will be subpar" that whole thing is up for debate because when the xbox was more powerful then the PS2 those same people didn't care its all about the game play. We will just have to see. I'm all for a MGS on Xbox360 or Wii

[maverick1191]

why make this article your just gettin xbox fanboys hopes up ie jason 360 it wont happen i think kojima prefers the disk space he can express the game i mean who would want to do a one disc game and then port it to xbox shipping 6 discs its pointless

[divideby0]

with the present worldwide economy now..its all about the GREEN, not the quality of games...

[jessupj]

Such sad words. I'm glad Hideo is nothing like you.

[WIIIS1]

Bah judging by MGS4, there's not much in terms of quality to sacrifice anyway.

[jBat17]

jealous much? gameplay-wise, MGS4 is the best in the series. its graphics tops gears of lag.. yeah the cutscenes were long but at least you can skip it. can you skip the laggy online of gear of lag 2?

there's no 3fixme exclusive that is worth playing.. gear of lag 2 was close, however, it was laggy and buggy

too bad, that list will remain empty this year. the thing is there are no more 3fixme exclusives.

[commodore64]

@ WIIIS1

Shame on you dude.
MGS4 was a great movie.

:)

[no-spin]

just released a PS3 version and a 360 version, IF they lower the quality to fit in the 360, the is crap

[Wolf873]

Before the release of MGS-4, there was all this talk of how even the Blu-Ray was limiting his vision of a perfect MGS-4 game and that he had to delete and trim the game a bit. In light of that, it'd be hard to imagine a new Metal Gear on a 360, but it's very possible that whatever his project is, and if that goes multiplatform, it might be something else entirely and not a Metal Gear game. Let's see how it turns out though, anything's possible imo.

[tawak]

it will be showed at microsoft last presentation with kojima
last year ff13
this year mgs!!
sweeeeeeettt!!!!!!!

[Silly gameAr]

I wish you were really excited about getting a great game on your console of preference, but some how, I don't think that's what you're excited about.

[Phantom_T]

MGS is like Kojimas child.
Doubt he would have anything less than perfect for it,especially not downgrading the experience to make it multiplat.

[L-Teezy]

now that Raiden is back with his wife, do you think he has a real wang or some kind of functional cyborg pecker to lay the pipe with? if not, his wife has got to be pretty pissed, frustrated, and unhappy with her relationship, wich could lead to a divorce. maybe Kojima will touch base on that and fill us in with the next installment

[likedamaster]

Is Ben Dutka going to stop crying over ps3 lost exclusives and 360 exclusives and stop being a ps3-completely-biased-douche-b ag of a fanboy? No.

If the so-called "talented" Kojima after delivering a keynote about "making the impossible possible" push the bounderies on the PS3, is he not going to try to do the impossible on the 360 as well? PS3 retards like Ben Dutka & friends seriously astound me.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

yeah and in that speech he mentioned that he made the impossible possible with more improved better hardware which is the PS3 which also means...NO MGS5 ON TH 360!!!! GET IT!!

[jeseth]

Look at the annual progression of PS3 exclusives vs. 360 exclusives. Ps3 games continue to amaze (Resistance=>Uncharted=> Mgs4=>LBP, R2=>Killzone 2=> and now the amazing Uncharted 2 screens) not mentioning God of War 3, GT5, Heavy Rain, Infamous, etc. while 360 has been stagnent since Gears 2 and hasn't really shown much other than a Lost Planet 2 trailer (real time or CG?), which will probly end up multiplatform.

MGS5 would be "watered down" if it were on 360 and PS3. Ps3 exclusives are just really showing what the next gen is all about lately and I wouldn't want MGS5 to be equal to MGS4. I want it to surpass MGS4 on every level. If it went mutliplatform I'm not convinced it would improve much form MGS4, or even match MGS4.

[eagle21]

Gamespot GOTY: MGS4
Best Graphics at Spike: MGS4

Quality IS PS3. :)

[Darrius Cole]

Maybe Gears of War 3 and Metal Gear 5 will both be multi-platform. Then single console owners will get to play both games.

[mellowyellow]

I doubt he would ever go multiplat, but if anyone remembers his gdc keynote, nothing is impossible, especially not for hideo kojima

[crillyconlig]

no question the 360 can do the visuals, but it cant do the rest, lenght of the game, content(so many weapons!! suits, ipod music etc), physics, number of enimies on screen..........

the overall expirience will not be as good

[IaMs12]

as he said he is trying to make the impossible possible. And everyone saying that the Xbox360 cannot handle the game what so ever. So that incentive to conquer the impossible, develop it for the 360 as well.

[XDF]

What quality loss....If they took about the movie sections of MGS4 and you know, concentrate on gameplay (you know like actually controlling the character on screen) then both consoles should be great.

Seriously, if Konami is smart they will released MGS5 on both platforms to maximize profits and get more fanbase. Capcom already did that with their 2 huge blockbusters in RE5 and SF4. You seriously think Konami is going to ignore a system that has a 2-1 lead in North America? It is only logic, economic, and common sense.

MGS5 will be multiplatform I am 99% sure it will be.

[Phantom_T]

It's a story.
Do you really think people buy the MGS series for the gameplay alone?
the reason MGS4 had so many video's in it was because it was the end of Snakes story,the end of an era.
Because lets face it,if it was told in any less detail MGS fans would be lighting there torches and grabbing the pitchforks.

[tmt345]

MGS4 has sold almost 5 million copies. You think they are not satisfied with that?

[aksmashh]

Good News For Xbox
But
I Don't Want A MGS On PS3 What Can Be Played On 360
Reason
Because It Won't Be Using The PS3's Power
I Didn't Think MGS4 Was That Amazing Graphically compared to
Killzone & Soon Uncharted 2

[XDF]

But isn't 10 millions greater than 5 millions? How could anyone or any company stupid enough to not want to make more money. Loyalty and pleasing fanboys can only go so far. It is all about the Benjamin baby.

[cmrbe]

to every exlusive game on the x360.

[GEESE]

Money is money. More platforms more money. (sh1tter games though)

[Allowen]

Since I did not like MGS4, it was one of the worst games I have played on my entire 23 years as a gamer, the story ,the action and the movies and voice acting wre so dump, artificial ....

I don't care if Kojima's next gamee goes multiplataform, maybe with that he will attract more then 4 million ppl(bought mgs4 ), maybe 8 millions ?

The reason why a MGS game will never sell as much as a Halo 3( and I am a SOny fanboy) is that it is a game that tries to attract players looking for violence, cool story , fun jokes and etc etc but when you try to make a game that is scary and funy, violent and not violent at same time it becomes garbage.

If MGS4 were a bit more serious near a Syphon Filter I belive it would have sold hell more then 4M ......

[GEESE]

And it's spelled D U M B not D U M P.
What you fail to mention is that Halo is crap.

[Theoneneo81]

hmm i smell troll

[Silly gameAr]

To each his own I guess.

[nefertis]

MGS4 rocks that game is epic, now MGS5 has to have better quality if not no buy for me.

[Theoneneo81]

as long as Kojima is at the helm i doubt he will sacrafice anything he made it pretty clear in MGS 4 in what his choice is for this gen if you rember the lil blu Ray Line

[donnie-2105]

the ONLY reason mgs4 couldnt work on the 360 is because of the hours of self indulgent cut scenes.period.the game would have been much better if he had concentrated on more in game action instead of the boring but admittedly beautiful movie bits.play not watch is my motto bioshock halflife2 excellent stories no cut scenes.plus the graphics in game were not that special and have been bettered by multi plats this year already ie res5(on 360 + ps3)

[commodore64]

I am sick to death of the ps3 holding the 360 back in multiplatforms.

Kojima will find that he will need to reduce the quality of the 360 experience to allow the game to also run on the ps3, as has been the case with sooooo many other multiplats.

Most recently, just to name a few that run better on the 360:
-RE5
-Skate2
-Street fighter 4

Once again, a gimped 360 experience, thanks to the catering to the limitations of the ps3.

[jessupj]

You think mgs4 or killzone can be done on the 360? You are one of the blindest, childish fanboys.

[commodore64]

well, hundreds of multiplats couldn't be done properly on the ps3, so i don't understand your point exactly.

But yeah. keep your head buried in the sand, if that works for you.

:)

[Xbots play games]

We never got MGS and the Xbox 360 is doing magnificently without it..in fact the game isn't even the PS3 top seller (that belongs to GTA4 and COD4) PS3Extreme can keep using the same old Fanblogger reasons to keep games. But they arent scaring anyone. Games look and play great on the 360..and if they were so much better on the PS3..we'd all have one.

So the bottomline in this world of recession..make a game that some of the PS3 audience will buy..or put it on a console that drives incredible mainstream sales. Pride or success...either way..we will still be doing just as well as we always have

[Silly gameAr]

Who's we? You speak for everyone who owns a 360? I'm sure there are plenty of 360 fans that want to play MGS. Or maybe you're just talking sales like everyone else that think sales equal quality.

[Xbots play games]

If your a gamer who has a 360 and it is the only system you have then it is an all inclusive 'we'. So once again..'WE' never got MGS4 on our system and the system did abslolutely fine. Look at before and after for the system and the numbers will prove exactly what I said. Yhis isn't some silly fanboy or fanblogger opinion. It's simple..if the game goes multi it'll do huge number..obviously wayyy more than if it stays exclusive..but if MGS stays exclusive. (which is likely)..then that's fine. If you NEED to play the game buy the system for it. Historically speaking..it won't change a thing for Xbox gamers. We (yes..WE) support the big exclusives and multis in droves..and that's all that matters. If you want ALL the games..buy ALL the systems..if not enjoy what you have..this is article is just another fanblogger attempt to pretend games are substandard on one system..but like I said..it won't matter we (Xbox gamers) will be fine ..either way

[ultimolu]

Unless Kojima lost his f*cking marbles...it ain't going multiplatform. The man is a perfectionist.

[aiphanes]

The Ps3 will be at $199 and totally dominate the scene...and there might be a new Xbox out by the time...so it could go multiplatform...but as it is now...it would not...