Lens of Truth: WWE Legends of WrestleMania Demo Comparison (720p)

Lens of Truth writes, "Let us take you down memory lane and back to one of the greatest moments in WrestleMania history while we compare the PS3 and Xbox 360 version of WWE Legends of WrestleMania Demo. While you relive the record crowd that packed the Pontiac Silverdome in Detroit to watch Hulk Hogan take on the legendary Andre the Giant you can't help but notice that one version gets body slammed all over the arena while one stands tall among the classic giants."

[XboxGirl]

How do developers get away with s@#t like this. It makes the PS3 look bad and we all know what the PS3 is capable of. Missing lighting effects, sweat, and blurry textures is unacceptable at this point in the PS3 life.

[Lfmesquite]

This is a joke, this game blows so hard. I don't know what's worse the PS3 version, or that they even bothered to compare them.

[Eddie20101]

I suggest the people that own both systems download the demos on each system and compare for themselves. Some of what they point out as differences are not true, and some of what makes them look different is because of the way they do anti-aliasing in the game. I would give a slight edge to the Xbox 360 version but the difference is not as great as this site would have people believe.

[evildeli]

I think they make a good point though. It's not just the developers at fault now. Sony needs to take some blame here too.

[Shogun Master]

Yeah, why even bother wasting time and money on this P.O.S. Sony should be watching more closely.

[Anon1974]

It might be the same as the RE5 demo and the two are simply different builds of the game, or it could just be that they really didn't optimize for the PS3. Either way, we should wait till the retail game is out before judging.

[Shogun Master]

I know what your saying but 99% of the time the demo is a "demonstration" of the game's final code, and won't change. I bet they (THQ) planned on a patch from start, and that's just downright lazy.

[Anon1974]

...would really be that lazy in their port. I'm hoping I'm wrong. Usually when you see these game comparisons it's always from Gametrailers of some game from a no-name developer and if the light is just so in the room and you pause the game, get out a magnifying glass and squint at the shadow on the fence in the upper left corner of the screen behind the character a texture looks kinda blurred and all the 360 fans scream "We've won again!"

In this case though the difference is shocking.

[Narutone66]

they are probably concentrating on supporting their first and second party. THQ should probably take the blame for doing a poor job. Take a look at what Konami did with MGS4, the graphics are amazing. But graphics doesn't break the game, you have to take into consideration the game play too. If the game play is good, the graphic can take a back seat. You won't take much notice of it when you're so engrossed in the game.

[XtreemGamer]

Listen.. i just want to say,that this site is a fanboy site. Don't trust it. The pictures are fake. That's all.

[RudeSole Devil]

Its people like you that ignore comparisons like this one warning us what a POS this port is going to be. People like you make developers think it's OK to keep on doing these crappy ports on the PS3. It's ignorant people like you that are actually making the PS3 look bad. Good job keep it up it's working.

[evildeli]

I don't see any blurry pictures. I see the ps3 getting spanked. Maybe you need to adjust your monitor.

[XtreemGamer]

No. I know that the ports aren't great on PS3. But look at just the site. It's an X360 fanboy site,every comparision on the site is about the X360 have better graph games. Yeah,the X360 is a great console,but it didn't support native 1080p,but look at the site.. EVERY game that is on X360 have 1080p support and 720p support only for the PS3 (while the PS3 is the console that can use native 1080p).
In one phrase: it is a stupid xbot fanboy site,whats only making flame.

[frayer]

You probably run the site, submitting your own articles. dumb bot. DONT GIVE THE SITE HITS.

[RudeSole Devil]

The Xbox 360 on every game can upscale to the native resolution of any TV used with the console. My PS3 has to be forced to display a game in 1080p. 99% of the time it's falls back to 480p. The Xbox 360 automatically upscale where as the PS3 needs to be tricked. Also on the back of every Xbox 360 I own all resolutions are supported even if the games native resolution is not 1080p the Xbox will upscale. But almost all my games on the PS3 only support 720p why? Because the PS3 can't upscale.

[jaidek]

They have done 12 comparisons so far. 3 PS3 wins, 2 Ties and 7 Xbox 360 wins. From what I can see they are being quite fair.

Face it, the PS3 isn't the system you want for cross platform games...it is just that simple. Especially when a high percentage of games are developed on the Xbox 360 and ported to the PS3. It is not that the PS3 isn't a capable system, it is an amazing system. It just that the developers are cutting corners to save time/money when they port to the PS3. So of course the product will be inferior, not because of the system but because of the developers.

[RudeSole Devil]

Yea and i also run the site dummy. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. PS3 suck deal with it. Oh please go buy this game so you could support your failing system. Please.

[power of Green]

You're fooled by KZ2's development time and budget KZ2 would be superior on the 360 point being the 360 is more powerful.

[she00win99]

hahahaha @ power of gay, what happen to your bubbles? did the bubble fairy took it?

[digger18]

With the PS3 capable of 128bit HDR lighting and the 360 only capable of 64bit HDR lighting, I really don't know what has gone wrong here.

[RudeSole Devil]

When you willing go buy a game for the PS3 knowing that it's a POS port makes developers think "don’t worry they'll still buy it”. I understand how gamers what to support there favorite console, but by blindly or willing buying s@#t like this actually is hurting the PS3 in the long run. Do you really think if no one bought this game THQ would release another cross platform port like this? It might even force developers to spend a little more time on these ports.

[jaidek]

That is a good point, the PS3 should have no issue with the HDR whatsoever. My guess is that THQ was lazy and decided not to recode their PS3 engine to support it.

I do agree that developers need to step up their quality, there is no excuse for this in 2009. Or Sony/Microsoft needs to delay certain releases until they are equals. But we all know that scenario won't happen...sigh.

[40cal]

Smack Down vs Raw sold better on the PS3 and got more support, i cant believe they would be lazy like this either.

I have no plans to pick this up, so I guess that it really doesn't matter to me.

[Danja]

THQ took the easy route once again , instead of making the game on the PS3 then porting to the 360 they did the complete opposite...

ne ways I wasn't actually planning on picking up this game...

[All-3]

Shader Model 4.0 is a feature of DirectX 10, which has been released with Windows Vista.

Shader Model 4.0 will allow for 128-bit HDR rendering, as opposed to 64-bit HDR in Shader Model 3.0 (although this is theoretically possible under Shader Model 3.0)

Shader Model 3.0 Compliant: Xbox 360 and PS3.

The PS3's nVidia RSX "Reality Synthesiser" is based on the NV47 Chip - which is the Nvidia GeForce 7800 Architecture... which is NOT --> Shader Model 4.0/4.1 compliant.

For shader operations per clock, Sony is most likely counting each pixel pipe as four ALU operations (co-issued vector+scalar) and a texture operation per pixel pipe and 4 scalar operations for each vector pipe, for a total of 24 * (4 + 1) + (4*4) = 136 operations per cycle or 136 * 550 = 74.8 GOps per second.

Given the Xbox 360 GPU's multithreading and balanced design, you really can't compare the two systems in terms of shading operations per clock. However, the Xbox 360's GPU can do 48 ALU operations (each can do a vector4 and scalar op per clock), 16 texture fetches, 32 control flow operations, and 16 programmable vertex fetch operations with tessellation per clock for a total of 48*2 + 16 + 32 + 16 = 160 operations per cycle or 160 * 500 = 80 GOps per second.

[_Q_]

Ive seen some close ones and some not so close but damn these devs suck as$ at PS3 games.

[chanto23]

and its a shame...cause these games are the reason the PS3 has a "bad" rep this generation...fortunately Sony has their 1st party devs to carry them this gen.

[evildeli]

For all I know you run that site. LOUD NOISES!

[digger18]

Yes these are fake..I knew something was wrong, since the PS3 can do 128bit HDR lighting and the 360 only 64bit HDR lighting

Real PS3 screen shot:

http://i63.photobucket.com/...

and look, no blurry textures either.

Damn, its gets real sad when fanboys have to fake sh!t.

Edit for XboxGirl: http://www.tothegame.com/sc...

Edit for jaidek: Yes I do know what HDR lighting is. The picture I posted was to show that there was no blur going on compaired to the fake ones post on lensoftruth or should I say lensoffake.

[XboxGirl]

Are you sure that's nit the PS3 version? Where your source? Nice try kid maybe next time.

[jaidek]

Um, maybe you need to know what HDR is before you can comment. That screen shot displays nothing. There are no glows, blooms or anything remotely HDR in that screen shot. And you are telling me that Lens of Truth is that skilled at photo and video manipulation that they could remove all HDR effects? Man, that's a talented bunch of guys. Maybe they should be working for ILM.

Here is a screen shot from nVidia showing HDR on and off:
http://www.asisupport.com/n...

[evildeli]

All I can say is wow! Who's calling who a liar? Turns out your pictures are fake. All you have to do is compare your Xbox 360 to PS3 pictures and you can see that it's the same exact picture. I mean there's egg on one's face and then there's yours. Just because the image is in a separate tab doesn't mean it's a different picture. Next time try doing your own research before allowing yourself to look like a fool.

Don't believe me:
PS3--- http://www.tothegame.com/ss...
Xbox360--- http://www.tothegame.com/ss...

[Soul Train]

Another easy win for the Xbox. Did you expect anything else?

[stealyrface]

Let me tell you somethin' brother, I don't care what system looks better the Hulk reigns supreme on all platforms. Does anyone know if the hi def look allows one to see why Andre is really the Giant :)
<=3

[XboxGirl]

@Soul Train
tonight there hosting a live Head2Head of RES 5 so now everyone can see the Xbox 360 stop all over the PS3 LIVE! Awesome idea..

[XboxGirl]

WOW that’s awesome digger. See what’s happens digger18 when you run your mouth without checking your sources. You look like a fool. Sites like the LensofTruth actually show differences unlike 99% of all the other sites out there. Copy and paste images and reviews from other sites have fooled gamers like yourself into buying inferior versions this entire generation has consequently made the PS3 look inferior to the Xbox 360.

[ArthurLee]

Wow, that's terrible. THQ should be embarrassed for releasing crap like that on the PS3 and expecting to get your cash for it.

[JibJab1]

the game still looks bad on both systems but that sucks.

[ultimolu]

...What did they do to the PS3 version?! o.o

It's rare I say this but the 360 version looks better.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Wow, this one was not close at all.

But we are comparing demo's. How do you know the retail versions aren't more comparable??

Something about comparing demo's or beta's just doesn't sit right with me.

If this is the "Lens of Truth" how about be as truthful as possible and compare retail releases?? Too expensive for you guys?

[ArthurLee]

In case you didn't know crab, the game is not out till March 24th. They explain that in the article man.

[Cajun Chicken]

Hmm. Mainly lighting missing here on the PS3. Pretty poor, if the real game looks like this THQ should be forced give a patch in the near future.

[mrmikew2018]

It seems ever third developer is getting lazier and lazier by the days, when it comes to developing for the PS3. Sony needs to step in and check some of these developers. If not, third developers should make damn exclusives for the 360 if they're to stupid to understand the PS3's hardware.

[Baron79]

Yeah, it's a shame. I love every system I own but it is awful what happens to these PS3 ports.

Developers shoudn't even bother making a game on two platforms if one will be superior to the other, especially like this. Not to mention their names are now tied to a crappy lazy port.

[2Negativecool]

That's all I really have to say.

I'm tired of seeing these BS comparisons. It should be more a story about how stupid the developers are by not getting the PS3's architecture yet.

It's been over two years, Killzone 2 has proven the PS3 can achieve more.

Jeez...

[FragMnTagM]

the article was talking about how the developer weren't using the power of the PS3. Besides everyone knows killzone looks good it does not need to be said a million more times. Also it does concern some people that have both systems, when it comes to choosing a multiplat. I own both systems, but I will only rent this.

[2Negativecool]

It's another story about comparisons.

Fvckhead.

[azazin]

Oki shhh! everyone! we all know that most multiplatform games out there look better on the Xbox 360! I support the PS3 but it's the truth face it guys, however it doesn't mean the exclusive titles won't whoop xbox 360s ass!! XD no flaming lol

[Jeremy Gerard]

that is not financially backed by Sony, and worked on by hundreds of developers is going to look better on 360. PS3 is so not made for running game code that it costs a fortune to make even simple games like this one look good on it.

[no-spin]

Examples
Rainbow Six
Bioshock
The Orange Box
etc.

Sucks for PS3 only owners, but Sony makes up with the great exclusives

[pwnsause]

THQ is so lazy... seriously, these guys are not getting my money until they take responsibilty for their actions on PS3 hardware.

[Baron79]

You hit the nail on the head. $60 bucks for this is a joke. THQ will be punished by at least, not receiving my money.

Anyone who planned on getting this for the PS3, please fight it and don't waste your money! Do not show THQ it's O.K. to make garbage ports like this!

Even if they patch it, their LAZY and it still shouldn't have come out!

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

the graphics of this game look like GeOW2 so yeah its crap, who even buys these type of games JUST LOOK AT THEM!!

@POG its been 4 yrs and still no game can match KZ2 on the Garbage-Box-Please-Trash-Me so yeah shut up

[xg-ei8ht]

I don't know what's more scary, the PS3 port.

Or seeing hulk hogan in his pants.

[CobraKai]

What they really wanted for the PS3 was to capture the true essence of the sport, whose glory days were from he 80's, with "simulated standard definition rendering".

Honestly tho, I'd take the version of the game where HOGAN'S BACK MUSCLES AREN'T SO OVERLY HUGE!!!

[XDF]

for multiplatform games.

Wasn't PS2 the lead platform for most if not all the multiplatform games and the original xbox versions pawned the PS2 versions 99% of the time. But the Sony supporters keep saying the xbox came out over a year later of curse it will look better.

Now fast forward to present day. The PS3 came out a year later and Sony was calling the x360 xbox 1.5 and other BS while time and time again, 99% of all multiplatform games look and play better on suppose inferior machine that came out a year earlier.

If PS3 can't even do sweat and gloss right, how are they going to create George St. Pierre on the new UFC game. They can't recreat the GSP vs BJ Penn Fight without vasaline on GSP's body. LMAO

Like our former President George W. Bush used to say>> fool me once, shame on — shame on you

[mrmikew2018]

It's not the PS3's fault, it's the developers'. Most developers tend to cater to Microsoft system because it's easy to develop on. But in reality, it's really ignorant on their part to do that, because they're probably going to lose a market of consumers that only own a PS3, which means potential money. So THQ really loses, instead PS3 owners. I'm not really a wrestling fan so this was going to be a pass for me, but developers need to smarten up or they're going to continue to shut down studios. Don't worry, your going to see THQ complaining a couple of months about how they are losing money and they're probably going to blame Sony.

[FragMnTagM]

for the lazy developers.

[anubis12]

why i play all the multiplatforms on the 360. and a couple of ps3 exclusives (uncharted 2 , god of war 3)...and on the 360 (bioshock 2, mass effect 2, halo ODST, fight night round 4, and many others)................thing is its not the ps3 fault.....Uncharted is in my top 3 of favorite games. but thats why i own both systems......you end up paying more for games either way....