Killzone2 is a good game. Let it go.

You can take the greatest games on the planet and you can stare at those games all day long and you can go into those games looking for flaws and you will indeed find them as you would in any game. But the question is what drives these people to find these games and attempt to destroy them?

Are they afraid? Do they not own a certain system and can't access the game full time or do they just want be right? Well, heads up people. Whatever your motivation is it's getting old. It's getting to the point where some people go so deep in a game in an attempt to find its flaws and destroy it that it begins to make them look… Well like that crazy guy on YouTube in the coffee shop who slams down and destroys his laptop then starts screaming at the other customers about how he's going to be late for meeting all the way to the point where the police come along an arrest as crazy ass. The customers are the people enjoying Killzone2. The crazy guy is the one who peered into its soul and sees nothing but evil. So with that being said this article is an attempt to get through to some of those people and calm them down a bit by saying, Killzone2 is a good game, let it go.

[Snake Raiser]

LoL at haters reporting this. Haters= < BIG BOSS

Really we should do this with every good game, just admit that it is good. It is one thing to say that YOU didn't enjoy a game, but it is another to say that it is a bad game. Halo 3 MGS4 GTA4 were all good games, however, not everybody liked them. A game doesn't have to be universally liked to be good.

[MeatPopsicle]

Killzone 2 is a game like no other in history.

No other game has ever remotely come as close in generating fear in owners of a different console. Killzone 2 was the single game on the PS3 that simply HAD TO FAIL. The fear and anger will never go away. Ever.

You have a game whose very existance makes a complate mockery of every pathetic claim that the 360 is remotely close to the PS3 in graphical, animation, physics, pixel pushing power. Killzone 2 single handedly desimates every inane bit of 'technical proofs' people like Major Nelson, Gabe Newell, John Carmack, and all the PC/Windows programmers and gamers at sites like beyond3d spewed over the past two to three years.

A Killzone 2 level deferred rendering engine isn't even possible on the 360 with the tiny 10 megs of edram the system is constrained by that could never deal with the 40 megs or so of render buffers the game uses. And the massive amount of vertex work, animation,post processing, etc. the Killzone 2 engine peforms on the PS3's SPEs simply isn't possible on the 360. The power just isn't there.

The incredible Killzone 2 engine makes a complete joke of the people who constantly still try to talk about the PS3's 'graphics card' as if it was just some desktop PC. People look like complete idiots when they still try to talk about the 360 'has a better graphics card' when the PS3 is running a game with graphics so good they were claimed to be impossible while the 360 is still stuck with the horribly outdated Unreal Engine as all it has to show for itself after three years.

Killzone 2 had to be savaged. At every opportunity.

And oh how they tried. 1Up,EGM,GamesRadar, and countless blogs spent the past three years trying to trash the game. All that effort was completely in vain. But the hatred, bitterness, and fear are still there.

It isn't ever going to stop.

[will11]

PS3 is obviously way better than Xbox. Press Agree

[uxo22]

...This incredible influx of common sense was put forth when everyone were bashing Halo3

...People could see think so clearly when and responsibly when the console that's not their console of choice had a good game out.

Oh, the irony.

[thats_just_prime]

when do generic fps count as good games ?

[MeatPopsicle]

"It is one thing to say that YOU didn't enjoy a game, but it is another to say that it is a bad game"

It is the psychological effect called Projection.

You so fear something and wish something to be true about it that you start trying to pretend it is true. In this case the overwhelming need for Killzone 2 to fail.

The Xbox was a console that even though it got obliterated by the PS2 in the marketplace had two main elements that owners of the console clung to: FPS games, ie Halo and Halo 2 and online service.

With the PS3 you now have Sony bringing the fight right to those two elements and utterly owning them with:

Killzone 2
Impossible CGI level graphics and animation and effect
32 player lagfree dedicated servers
Innovative first person cover system
Absolutely intense clan rivalry with the innovative clan valor points betting system on matches
25 gigs of game data on the BluRay disc

PSN/Home
Free online for every single PS3 owner
Dedicated servers for lagfree online play
Huge player counts of 32,40,64, and soon 256
Completely developer friendly to mods and free add on content
And of course the amazing Home online world with its massive third party game developer support that is growing at a faster and faster rate every month

Both those two PS3 things generate massive fear and hatered.

Hence the burning desire for them to fail and go away.

Hence the projection from many non-PS3 owners that they did in fact or are going to fail in the desperate hope by continuing to claim so they will

[cLiCK_sLiCK9]

Ever since Halo 3 got perfect scores.

[no-spin]

"Killzone 2 is a game like no other in history."

Killzone 2 has been hyped like no other game in history.
Did KZ2 delivered? That seems to be a matter of opinion, for me it did Not. Great production values, very polished, quality product. Is it memorable? no, this game will be forgotten quickly, unlike
Halo games that have midnight launches in Times Square, NYC and years later are still praised for delivering the goods and fun to play. There is a great difference between a game that delivers great quality and a game that delivers what the gamers Want. Gears 2 launched great and every fan enjoyed it big time, i enjoyed it a lot. Killzone 2 is a 8.5 for me, and the reason is that every time i played it, i was getting somewhat bored, except for the climax part of the mission that really impresses (big explosions mostly).
I dont want more hype, just great games like CoD MW, GoW2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, etc
KZ2 = great quality, is it a great game?

********EDIT
meatposicle

Dont play innocent, Sony showcased KZ2 at every major event, like at E3, when the lights went out and the bunch of tvs showed helghast eyes, etc etc. The game was over hyped and felt short of being a system seller.

[Tackle990]

MeatPopsicle... really man? Are you the damn playstation priest?

If Killzone 2 is SOOO unbelievable shouldnt you be doing that instead of writing your fanboy comments?

And what about Halo 3? It received so much more hate from the Playstation fans than Ive ever seen for any other game.

[MeatPopsicle]

Killzone 2 hyped???

LOL!!!!

Let's just sum up:

Sony and Guerilla Games put out a trailer that they stated was a target render trailer.

They matched that trailer and surpassed it many areas.

They put out a multiplayer beta.

They put out a demo.

They put some ads on TV and other media. Claimed to be far too few by everyone.

That's it. That is 'teh Sony Hype' over Killzone 2.

[Parapraxis]

will11, how about I just take your bubbles instead for your pointless comment.

[edgeofblade]

MeatPopsicle and his "fear" theory is one of the reasons people feel compelled to tear down games like Killzone 2. He's the one projecting.

Look at Halo. Look at the frothing, rabid mob that thinks that game is the "greatest game ever". Doesn't it make you want to take them down a notch too? Or the Gear-heads. Don't you get sick of their insistence that a gun crossed with a chainsaw is the greatest thing to happen to games ever?

If that's the case, why should Killzone 2 get a free pass when the same level of inane superlative is applied. It's NO DIFFERENT. Killzone 2 is going to have to weather the haters just like every other game did. It doesn't get a free ride because it looks amazing. No one gets a free ride on one element of the equation.

The game will get the recognition it deserves in the end. And even if it doesn't, you will have your experiences to look back on and enjoy, and screw anyone that doesn't agree with you. But they still have a right to disagree...

[MeatPopsicle]

Oh god!

"It doesn't get a free ride because it looks amazing. No one gets a free ride on one element of the equation. "

Someone was dumb enough to try to pass off the tired old "Yeah it looks 'pretty', but what about teh gameplay" troll as their comment.

How pathetic.

[cereal_killa]

"Killzone 2 has been hyped like no other game in history."

Too Human says hello at least games like LBP, MSG4 and Killzone2 that were hyped delivered and turned out to be great games. Too Human on the other hand was so hyped by the 360 fanboys with there 1 million pre orders GOTY AAA BS turn out to be 1 of the biggest flops in terms of sales, metajoke and game play.

[Marceles]

The titles should've said:

"Killzone 2 is a good game. DEAL WITH IT!"

[edgeofblade]

That's alright MeatPopsicle, you don't have to respond to the parts of the post that make you feel "fear". There is no fear here, because I'm objectively saying that Killzone 2 is a great game, but that's never going to be enough for the people who "need" Killzone 2 to be the savior of the PS3. You can take that easy pot shot while the rest of the post tears you to shreds... but I'm happy to know that you will sleep well tonight with the knowledge that you shot off at least one ill-reasoned comment.

KZ2 does one thing amazing and one thing awful. It's got great graphics but lousy control response. Everything else in the middle ranges from great to good, but I suppose it's BLASPHEMY to say there is something wrong with Killzone 2. Instead I should stand around and yell "KILLZOWNED, BIATCH" like it means something.

I'm on my way to the Church of the Immaculate Sony to throw a brick through that Helghast stained glass window you pray to.

OOOOOORRRRRR, you can stop painting a flawed BUT GOOD game as the greatest thing ever, we can agree it's a game worth playing, and be done with it. But we both know, that's never going to be good enough for you.

[Immortal Kaim]

@ MeatPopsicle... Are you delusional? We are talking about a game here, why would anyone 'fear' its release? As a 360 owner I'm excited by what Killzone delivers, after playing it for an hour or so, it is certainly a great game. Your 'Fear' ramblings don't make sense.

What is with everyone putting these companies on such an unattainable pedestal? The are out to make money, not abolish world hunger, people need to put this in perspective.

[Immortal Kaim]

@ Feline: I guess I will be adding you to the 'delusional' list then, along with those so called Xbots...

I'm not pointing the finger here at any one fanbase, I'm pointing the finger at anyone who thinks these petty things are worth arguing over. People are so caught up in this 'console war' that they are creating scenarios and explanations for events that don't exist.

[Immortal Kaim]

The only people who truly care about these so called 'attacks' on Killzone are the delusional twats I was referring to in the first place...

Get over it, it's a game. Some people won't like everything you like, that is a fact of life.

Thankfully my ignore list will gain another delusional 'gamer' (I use the word loosely are these parts).

Have a nice, delusional day :)

[Proxy]

So your saying someone might honestly dislike Killzone 2?

[MeatPopsicle]

Immortal Kaim, go right ahead and post your links to a major gaming site like gamesradar falling all over themselves in desperation to trash a Xbox 360 game...

Should be easy. Right? After all it's just 'delusional' fanboys who think it is only their console's exclusives.

You can put every other post in this story to shame. Just go right ahead. We're waiting...

You should be able to quickly and easily come up with a major gaming site doing something as disgusting as this:

From the neogaf post that destroyed gamesradar's credibility:

"Originally Posted by Evilninja:
As one of the writers of the GamesRadar piece you guys are mocking, I have to ask: what exactly is your beef with it? Not to be defensive, but you guys seem to be dogpiling on and calling it sh_t without giving any reasons why it's sh_t. Seriously, I want to know. If nobody tells us what we're doing wrong, then we're doomed to keep doing it.

I'll bite.

(1) We already told you what you were doing wrong the first 5 times you started doing it.

THIS time, it's sort of the pinnacle of everything wrong with your site's coverage of this specific game. There's no use even responding to why the article in question is so juvenile.

It's intentional fanboy baiting and trolling from a prominent online publication. If I'm reading a Killzone 2 article, I don't want to hear the perspective of a Gears of War fanboy stating the exact opposite of what you're saying. It serves no purpose. And I fully realize you have done this before with games like Halo 3 and Gears of War.

(2) Just to list the double standard in coverage GamesRadar has given Killzone 2 compared to other major shooter titles, have a look at the following 'preview' article titles for the following games.

Gears of War 2:

Gears of War 2: Most Improved Sequel Ever?

10 Things We Already Love About Gears of War 2

Gears of War 2's Biggest Surprises: We've finished the game. Here's 16 things that blew us away...

Halo 3:

Halo 3 - The Fanboy's Verdict: 5 reasons why Halo 3 is going to crush old Halo multiplayer

E3 07: Halo 3
We begin the single player campaign and describe every second of the epic experience

Now, compare this with some of the coverage KILLZONE 2 has received from your site leading up to release. It is an absolute EMBARRASSMENT.

LGC 08: Why wait? Leipzig's biggest games reviewed NOW!
Knee-jerk reviews after ten minutes' play-time. As is only right and proper

^ In this article you 'reviewed' Killzone 2 at GC and gave it a f_cking 5.

Here, look at the quote:

Quote:
Beautiful graphics and fairly decent multiplayer level design mean nothing in an FPS which during our hands-on took up to a week to respond to control inputs and masked the action with a layer of post-processed vaseline at every opportunity. Sluggish, terrible to control, and seemingly on a steadfast mission to confuse the player.

Stabbing through Killzone 2
Seemingly suicidal gameplay tactic reveals Helghast are DUMBER than they look

Killzone 2: What the reviews will say

^ An 'anti-hype' preview review. Ahhh. Nice one. An article that tries to set the 'tone' for future reviews, hoping to notch down the credibility of KZ2's first 5/5 score. BRILLIANT! GamesRadar again!

E3 08: Why wait? E3's biggest games reviewed NOW

OH, HEY! Another 'Review' from GamesRadar based on 10 minutes of hands on play.

Gears of War 2 Score: 10

Quote:
This sequel doesn't just stick with the successes of the first game - it supersizes them. The enemies are scarier, with Locust armies swarming the screen, some of them skyscraper-sized. The world is grittier, with entire cities in danger of utter destruction. The multiplayer is crazier, with never ending modes like Horde. Most importantly, the gore is, well, gorier. Who can say no to bloody chainsaw duels, rotting meat shields and torque bow decapitations? Bigger, better and more badass indeed.

Killzone 2 Score: 6

Quote:
Finally, a PS3 game worthy of the "Killzone" name! Just be glad the name isn't "Resistance" or "Gears of War", because then this would totally fall short. It's boring, from the all-gray graphics to the level design (hey, another warehouse!) to the set pieces, which involve such exciting things as blowing up a small bridge or opening a very large door with a hand crank. Yes, it's chaotic like a real war zone, but being a poor man's Call of Duty just isn't going to cut it.

Killzone 2: The world's most generic game character

^ This one speaks for itself.

Quote:
We don’t hate Killzone 2. I actually just spent this entire article talking about what Killzone 2 does better than three other successful shooters. How is that hate? Yes, I had other guys debate me about it, but that’s because we think there’s reader benefit in the resulting conversation.

For the record, I don't think we'll be eating crow over this anytime in the future, because - and I understand why this might be a shared misconception if you don't actually read GamesRadar on even an occasional basis - GamesRadar does not hate Killzone 2, or think that Killzone 2 is going to be sh_t. I finished playing it last night, and I think it's amazing, and I have every confidence that its harshest skeptics and critics will have a change of heart once they play it (assuming they bother to actually play it, anyway).

The guys who argue against me also liked it, but I specifically asked them to be as antagonistic as possible, because I personally find that a hell of a lot more entertaining than a couple of people mumbling half-hearted agreements at each other and regurgitating the same information you can find everywhere else. We’re all playing roles, though I suppose that’s not obvious if you’re not a regular reader of our site and don’t listen to our podcast.

If you came away with the impression that the article, or GamesRadar for that matter, was somehow anti-Killzone 2, then that's regrettable. We’re not. And we’ll thank you for offering specific tips on how we can communicate our message better in the future, because the tone of this thread makes clear that we didn’t get our point across this time.

Your coverage of Killzone 2 has been absolutely disgusting. I'm not talking about YOU in particular as one single editor -- but collectively. And yes, you most certainly (YOU, meaning GamesRadar in general) have hated on Killzone 2 and thought it was going to be 'sh_t', especially with the asinine 'preview' reviews that you've given the game in the past with 5's, 6's, and now 8's."

Waiting...

[Immortal Kaim]

I honestly don't know why I'm bothering to reply to these responses. The point I'm trying to make (as per my original response), is that saying people who don't own a PS3 feared Killzones release is ridiculous, why would anyone care? Its not like they couldn't go buy a PS3 and play the 'game' (highlighted because we are talking about an entertainment product here, yet you guys are acting like it is the most important item ever conceived).

GET OVER IT. Some people won't like it... It is a GAME, LET IT GO...

[thats_just_prime]

1.6 - @thats_just_prime
Ever since Halo 3 got perfect scores.

thats actually a good point

[cayal]

"Wow pretty sad such article has to be posted, still doesnt change the fact it is a average FPS."

Opinions ARE NOT Facts.

How is this simple concept so difficult for the ignorant 10 years like you to understand?

[Struz]

The game gets attacked and people defend it. People defend it so the game gets attacked. It goes in a circle like this because not everyone from either camp is able to step back and say "hey, it's a game, enjoy it".

The game got AAA scores from reviewers and anyone who expects a game based on the classic FPS formula to be "innovative" is completely delusional. People should take a game on its merits and at least try to ignore the hype and negativity that will inevitably surround it.

Personally, after playing COD4 the game felt like a better version of that however I have played so many FPS recently that I burned out on it rather fast. Not everyone is going to love KZ2.

[StephanieBBB]

I like Killzone 2.

[godofthunder10]

I own a 360 and i wouldn't trade it for a ps3 for anything.On the other hand i'll admitt that the ps3 is a great system and KZ2 is a great game.I'll also admitt that I wish KZ2 and r1 and 2 was on the 360.I also know that every ps3 fanboy(including meatpopsicle) wish that the ps3 had at least 1 360 exclusive on it even if they are to childish to admitt it.Just like the ps3 is a great system and have great games like KZ2 the 360 also is a great system with great games to and unlike meatpopsicle claim the ps3 isn't more powerful then all pc and that's a fact.

The problem i have is when ps3 fanboys like MeatPopsicle claim that kz2 is a game like no other in history.I don't know what the hell he's smoking but he's liveing in a fantasy world.The fact is that they had games that rates above this one.To make a claim like this is just a bias,childish ps3 fanboy remark and it's pathetic.

Meatpopsicle also posted a ridiculous reply right below it that doesn't make any damn since.I think he was trying to say that people that own a 360 should just admitt that KZ2 is a great game and stop hateing the ps3.On the same post he started hateing on the 360,talk about a hypercrit.He's 1 of the same ps3 fanboy that claimed that games like Mass effect isn't a 360 exclusive because it's on the pc to.He's now arguing that that KZ2 is a ps3 exclusive even if it's on a pc,now this is a double standard.

Meatpopsicle is the worse kind of ps3 fanboy someone could be.Even if a critic gives KZ2 a perfect score it's still not enough.He will still claim they hate the ps3 and love the 360.He believes that people should worship the ps3 like a god.He believes that any one that talks about the ps3 or any of the games should jump up and down and fall to their knees and thank god for it.If they don't then they are 360 fanboys and hate the ps3.I'll agree that the ps3 does have some advantages over the 360.On the other hand developers also said that the 360 have some advantages over the ps3.

Like i said before i think that KZ2 is a great game and i wish it was on the 360 to.On the other hand for a ps3 fanboy like meatpopsicle to claim that kz2 is a game like no other in history and it's perfect is is just a bias ps3 fanboy remark and he's full of sh*t for saying it.Like i said KZ2 is a great game but it's far from perfect.The fact is that KZ2 does have some flaws in it and it's a fact.

Meatpopsicle should take he's own advice.he should stop hateing on the 360 and it's games.He shouldn't be a childish ps3 fanboys and claim that every thing that's on the ps3 is perfect.He should just admitt the fact that the 360 is a great console to.he shouldn't make the remark that the ps3 is more powerful then Pc because it just shows how pathetic and bias he is to make a ridiculous remark like that.

[edgeofblade]

Agree with Godofthunder. Have a much needed bubble for your rational thought.

And the game started getting attacked because, historically, when a game puts up a target render like that, it's always disappointing. It's a boast... it's a nigh unattainable promise. And while I will admit that Killzone 2 had to be an UNFATHOMABLY well managed project to attain the level of actual performance it did, it still fell short of the target render, if even by just a little bit.

Now, the second reason why KZ2 is being attacked is because of the issue that KZ2 acolytes will take with that previous paragraph. I said that KZ2 is not perfect. KZ2 is good, but the PS3 cult needs it to be perfect to fulfill the "prophesy" of Sony dominance in this generation. Therefore, anyone who isn't a "true believer" doesn't have a valid opinion. To reword that, anyone who didn't already believe KZ2 was the best game ever doesn't get an opinion on the final product.

For those of us enjoying the game, this blind fanboyism is weighing down the game. Many of these flaws, like the control lag/deadzone, could be fixed with an update (and lucky for us, it was fixed), but the pre-perfection view of KZ2 keeps that from happening, ultimately weakening the game to everyone but the most devoted fan... who already loves everything about it.

[NIGHT_HAWK3210]

for as good as this game is i have never seen more than like 6000 players.(look on the website) ps3 might be the better console, but that only goes so far. the community is pathetic. killzone is supposed to be the biggest thing for ps3 and no one plays. Halo 3 and CoD 4 and 5 had well over 250,000 people on during its first couple weeks and still to this day, but thats on xbox. killzone is amazing but come on right nowthere is 2748 online, that is a joke. it seems to be the same for all games on ps3. (except WaW- about 100,000 on a good day). until this community starts to have some players it will only be looking up at the xbox.

[Spydiggity]

ps3 is not expensive. anyone can have one. this claim that ppl are jealous makes no sense and obeys no logic. this is not a special system. anyone can goto walmart, kmart, gamestop, and so on, and get a ps3.

the reason killzone 2 is so controversial is because people who ONLY have a ps3 want to tell themselves that everyone else is jealous of their precious system.

i went to kz 2 midnight launch. i wanted to like it. but the bottom line became apparent: The game has no personality. It has no memorable moments. It has no memorable characters. It's just not a great game. it's just a game. i'm completely fine with ppl liking it. i dont' care what anyoen likes. but ppl are holding other games to the kz standard. and to me, that means the game needs to be sub par to get giant praise.

again, i own this game. i'm not a fanboy for any system. i just want games to be good. this game just isn't.

articles like this one are the problem. we're building this game up into something completely unrealistic. the single player is short, boring, and unimaginative. the multiplayer might be fun if not for the horrible controls. and the ideas in multiplayer are lifted straight from team fortress while the style and feel are lifted straight from call of duty.

we're supposed to praise games that redefine genres. like bioshock. like half life 2. we're not supposed to praise games just because you think they are good looking. we need diverse level design, unique story, interesting plot twists, a memorable character or two. killzone has none of this. and that's the difference. it's an average shooter, not a GREAT anything.

[xwabbit]

People who don't see how great kz2 are just blind by the fan boy sight and people who don't see how good fable 3(cant say halo because i rlly didn't like it dk y) have the same eyesight

[Dandiego]

I will accept that people like this game but you have to also accept that some don't. I'm a shooter fan and I don't like it at all. I prefer Half Life, COD 4 by a long shot. They are not as pretty but controls are dead on. The big problem is the controls. I gave it another chance this weekend since people seem to like the game on this blog... but no... in my opinion they are some of the worst this generation. Only surpased by Brothers in Arms my biggest deception of 08. Please note that the shooters I mention are multiplatform.

[Dandiego]

how is PS3 better than 360?

Do you have both systems? I think you should try them side by side. You can listen to music while playing, do anything while talking, chat with someone playing another game, chat with multiple people, invite someone to a game while he is playing something else, better sound from the mic than blutooth, online lags a lot less since too many people play wifi on PS3 which lags, multiplatform games have better graphics, better framerate.

I have PS3 mainly as a bluray and to play Uncharted which kicks the ass of every game of the genre (can't wait for the 2nd one). Littlebigplanet is also a very good platformer… better than any platformer on xbox but I prefer Super Mario Galaxy on my Wii. I’m first and foremost an online player so xbox and live is the way to go for online play AT THE MOMENT. I have both version of COD 4 and they are identical but online the damn wifi makes ennemies leap 3 feet at a time on PS3. So call me fanboy I just see it as me prefering the system for the time being… I talk smack about PS3 nowadays to make things move from the side of Sony… I have sent back a bunch of 360s out of warranty and havent paid yet even when the system was out of warantee… I’m still pissed about reliability but when it works I’m happier about the gaming side of the system for the MOMENT once again. No system is perfect at the moment… too bad but true.

Stop saying things are perfect and keep talking smack about gameplay, graphics, functionalities, lag etc about every GAME if you think it doesn't work even if you own the system... it will force the 2 mega corps some of you sleep with to change and make them BETTER!!! Press disagree if you work for SONY or MICROSOFT

[snakeater3]

watch this clip loolz

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[torreyjs]

This isnt news dumbass

thats the problem

this is a fanboy blog article at best with you trying to get flamewars started

[Zeus Lee]

Excellent article,we need more of these on a daily basis.

[IcarusOne]

Intro says "the question is what drives these people to find these games and attempt to destroy them?"

Should also ask: "what drives those other people to worship and revere these games and attempt to sell them on the gaming populace as the greatest game of all time?"

KZ is a good game. It's not sh!t. It's also not perfection. Let it go.

[Zeus Lee]

Help plz!

[Snake Raiser]

I don't think this is the best place to ask, try the forums.

[Finalfantasykid]

I'm pretty sure you have to use the engineer's secondairy ability , repair. But you need to get the sentry turret medal first(forget it's official name).

[jBat17]

you need the engineer's second badge. using the repair gun, go near the turret then hold R1 when prompted. this only works for fixed turrets. turrets you created using the engineer's ability cannot be repaired.

[cLiCK_sLiCK9]

Who has the Air support Ribbon? Thats the number 1 thing Killzone pisses me off. That Ribbon is so unfair. >p

[pixelsword]

second of all, walk up to it an press the circle button.

[phosphor112]

You then unlock the repair ability. In which you can repair ALL of these listed:

Automated Turrets
Mountable Turrets
Weapon Depots

[rawd]

SUCK IT BOTS

[gamersden]

just to give you an idea of how it humiliates other fps

heres a snippet

KZ2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gears2 LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

halo3 at 600p MEGA LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watc... hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[gamersden]

Troll u dont even own a PS3 in the first place

-the boss battles in KZ2 are super intense. best on consoles

KZ2 features best enemy AI on consoles. ever played the game ojn elite? too bad the bot doesnt even own a PS3

- the lighting gun of KZ2 is the best weapon ever seen on consoles

- The campaign is short but full of thrills not broping like gears 2/halo 3

- The MP mode of KZ2 is just pure gold

KZ2 tears away all games on that crap box 360

just check the gameplay footages of both games

[Snake Raiser]

@1.2 I just told him to read my first comment. Nuff' said.

[Chubear]

Oh good lord. KZ2 really does make Halo3 look like a last gen game. Yes I know that vid is of footage from b4 halo23 came out but still if you play KZ2 online for about 30mins then play gears online then play halo3 it's pretty obvious KZ2 does not beat Halo...

It 'ackin' slaughters it.

[Bathyj]

Wow, not only does Halo 3 look last gen the gameplay looks crap too.

I've admitted many times I'm not an online player but all that jumping around to avoid being shot looks like rubbish. What a primitive, useless gameplay mechanic. It time to update, but I bet the new Halo expansion will be just the same.

[Lionsguard]

I heard if you zoom in x100,000 times you can see huge disgusting pixels. UGH KILLZONE FAILS!!! /sarcasm.

[QQcrybaby]

Controls are simply not good enough for an FPS.

[Dino]

doesnt feel good. I can kill things in the game but it's not that responsive....And yes I've tinkered with the control sensitivity.

[Andor_Trask]

It is supposed to add realism, i.e: The weight of the gun, equipment, armor, gravity, etc.....
maybe you had a bad burrito before a battle and your stomach isn't feelin' too great, so now so can't move as fast as others...lol the last bit was a jk.

[teto83]

^^^^^some doesn't have good eye to hand coordination....

[TheColbertinator]

Engineers suck.Damn you all.

I'm a scout so turrets annoy me when I'm picking a good sniping position

[gamersden]

but you have to be a very good player

KZ2's mP is the best mp i have played over the years

[Snake Raiser]

Lol, I can't tell you how many times... "I will just walk around this wall now.... BAM!" Killed by Turret.

[drdistracto707]

the engineer, assault, and saboteur classes are for noobs

medic, tactician, and scout are for people who want a challenge and actually know how to aim and shoot like any REAL fps fan

[FPShooter]

THANK YOU!!!!!

[Snake Raiser]

YOU ARE WELCOME!!!
+bubbles.
I was very happy to find this article, somebody had submitted it as a tip.

[seraph741]

i have the game and ps3 and its NOT that good. not much better than any other FPS and the controls are way worse. it's fun, just not as good as some might think. plus graphically, i almost feel like RE5 looks better, soo....

say what you will, that's my opinion, not biased, just how i see it.

[commodore64]

Of course Killzone is a great game!

Something entirely more poignant to observe is the number of articles damage controlling the purported negativity against Killzone2.

I mean... wtf?

If the game is that great, then go and play it.

If the author (and all the other fanboys) can find the time to read all the smallminded hate, and then take even more time to write "damage control on the hate" then maybe they aren't enjoying playing KZ2 as much as they are telling everybody?

I gotta ask... IF you love this great game (and it is a great game) then why are people spending so much time and effort NOT playing it?

Very telling indeed!

[Snake Raiser]

Well geeze, the game came out a half month before this article was written, so he at least enjoyed it a little.

[bewrong666]

people who obviously don't like the game are simply scared, xbots, or just plain suck at the game :P

[LazyDevs]

I would own you online and i do not care for the game much.

[socomnick]

Kz 2 is best summed up as a pretty decent fps , with shiny graphics and bad controls.

[no-spin]

but your point is valid.
I played it, and graphics aside(which are amazing), did not thought much about it. Well done, but nothing special. Story is way too lineal, and maps are on rail trails, no open map whatsoever.
It is not a failure, but it does not deliver the goods sales wise and fun wise

*****lots of disagrees, zero arguments. Nice trolling

[LazyDevs]

well it is far from having shiny graphics, maybe if it had shiny graphics the textures wouldnt look flat, and maybe if it had real time shadows it would have more atmosphere, and maybe if it didn't have framerate issues it would be more enjoyable online well of course fix the controls also.

[jaseo]

after playing the wheelman demo, i was on first name terms with vinnie. however, after playing the COR demo, I remarked, 'it's no killzone'.

i can only imagine how awesome kz2 would be if it had vinnie instead of rico at your side.

controls are a good challenge. this is not auto-aim resistance retribution on the psp! i frequently get caught up in what I call call-of-duty style attacks, but it's not something you do all time...

you wait for that opportune momment when you know you will not be overrun. if you make it, then awesome.. if you don't, you just say it was COD style. (good excuse)

i played RE5 co-op on the weekend. that is awesome.. the co-op makes it such a fun game. you can't do any run and gun.. so I had no excuse when I died. i could blame the controls, but I'd be deluding myself.

[Bigrhyno]

These back and forward blogs of whether or not Killzone 2 is good should be forum posts... on forums... not on a gaming news site.

[Bizmal]

Engineers ! Shotgun.

[gamersden]

the game is just awesome

[drdistracto707]

shotgun and rocket launcher are just the easy way of saying...

"I dont know how to play this game properly, but ill go ahead and blow your guts out anyway... Im lazy like that"

[Firstkn1ghT]

Being a hardcore FPS nutt, I have played it and it definitely is way over rated. The weapons selection is basic, the enemy is boring, the boss battles are boring, the story is boring. I thought the whole game was pretty much boring. People complained about Halo 2's ending. Well WTF was the ending of KZ2 about? That was the worst ending I have ever seen. Killzone 2 has zero creativity. And don't get me started with the non responsive control.

I challenge anybody here to tell me why Killzone 2 is so special. I felt like I was playing Call of Duty 3. I'm a fan of Resistance and I easily prefer that ps3 game over this game. Even the multi player is pretty bare bones with very limited game types.

Again, I challenge somebody to tell me what makes this game so special.

***I guess it's easier just to slam on those disagrees than actually take up my challenge. That just proves that you can't prove me wrong.

[Snake Raiser]

Judging from past comments I don't think that you own a PS3. Boss battles and boring LOL. Ground to air battle (If you have played the game you will know what I mean) Boring my @$$

[NateDPG]

I tell you one thing buddy, had this game a Bioshock story it would be the complete package. But it is what it is, an action roller coaster ride in unmatched quality with a story on the level of a COD/Gears or any exchangeable Hollywood action flick. If you have more fun playing run and gun Resistance, then I feel sorry for you because you have no idea of FPS games. KZ2 has a much deeper and tactical gameplay than COD4 or R2, nowadays when I play COD4 I feel after like half an hour bored. It’s just too simple, too small maps, all in all just not enough. Not so KILLZONE 2. The gameplay is deeper and more tactical and online the controls are easier, but still more demanding than in COD4. It’s better for the lasting appeal as the game is harder to master and there is more to learn. Also the online maps are HUGE and the graphics are same as in the singleplayer, it’s simply a BLAST. All these effects and stuff at once, it creates a warzone atmosphere unseen in a videogame. Even Crysis can’t keep up with that although it has overall better graphics.

[Firstkn1ghT]

Snake, And I have never said I owned a ps3. My cousin is a ps3 owner and we rented a copy. He downloaded the demo and didn't like the controls either. He's a big Resistance/COD4 freak. I'm still waiting for my beloved Twisted Metal to purchase a ps3.

Nate, You really didn't explain why Killzone 2 is so special. Why is it "unmatched" quality? Why is it more "deeper and tactical?" Your rebuttal was a whole lot of nothing. Please elaborate.

[INehalemEXI]

Level design , Atmosphere, funfactor , controls are smooth(though touchy and easy to over aim, only noobs trip off it), Class ability's are fun and balanced decently, insane graphical effects not seen in other games at such a glorious level. No fps brings such satisfying gun play. Gun models , textures and animations all set a new bar for FPS and ....FPS is all about the guns. The seemless gameplay modes switching objectives whilst playing.

Single player has a satisfying last level and boss though frustrating to the weak of heart, the gameplay is intense yet not cheesy, (lets throw 1000 grenades at you and watch you dance) AI is unpredictable. The enemy's can take a considerable amount of damage if you don't pop the melon.

Best blood ever seen in an fps , you sit there and watch a pool of blood spread out before you , the strands of blood in the air too are done well , the death animations are great. Clan suppport, bidding system for clans, badges , ranking , stat tracking by day/week/month/all time, etc This and more makes for one of the most satisfying FPS of all time.

cons: no knife in MP; Ranking up went by to fast, no co-op, no assist points.

Edit: renting and playing the demo are going to give you a very limited taste of what KZ2's like, when you have all abilities in MP its very fast paced and you see why the controls are so realistic and precise with aim that is a tad touchy/not as easy as it could be. When you kill someone you know you earned your kill.

[hulk_bash1987]

Damn u sound like a scorned customer, it's a shame dat u had dat kind of experience wid the game. I happened 2 have the exact opposite of ur experience so I'll take up ur challenge. Okay imho what makes Killzone 2 different from other shooters is its unique feel some of u may call it lag and some of u may feel it a burden on the game but having played it from start to end on campaign and having spent a very extended amount of tym on the multiplayer, i can say that it feels like nothing else on the market atm. Also the graphics are amazing and i know i dont have 2 explain y, it looks jus as gud if not better den the best looking games out there.

And in regards to the multiplayer. How is it bare boned?? and doesnt have dat many match types?? lets see der are about 5 different game types albait all of them squad based: Basic team deathmatch= Body count, capture the flag= Searh and retrieve, VIP/execution (Geow & Halo)= Assassination, King of the Hill= Capture and hold, Assault= Search and Destroy. And there are also 7 different classes u can choose from which keeps the game from becoming a bore, like some other shooters.

And finally the difference between the ending of Killzone 2 and Halo 3 is dat GG unlike Bungie didn't toute the game as being an epic and satisfying ending to the franchise, wid da tag, "finish the fight". Halo 3 was supposed 2 be an epic send off for Masterchief, which ended up being a guessing game for the fans on whether or not der will be another sequel.

[no-spin]

"This and more makes for one of the most satisfying FPS of all time. "

No it is not.
Boss battles are pretty ordinary. If i did not own a PS3, this game would not impress me into buying a PS3 @ $400, nothing special whatsoever, besides the great visuals

@Macalatus
Im a confessed PS3 preference gamer.
KZ2 is what it is, not a great game.
His opinion is valid, i did not said otherwise

[macalatus]

@FirstKnight,

Dude, no matter what we say it's not going to be "special" to you as your fanboy brain already said it "sucks". People can say all the good things about Halo and Gears of War, and frankly it's not going to change anything as I myself see them as great, but the expereince is "average" to me.

@no-spin,

It's HIS opinion...and you're saying that it's NOT valid? Yeah, another crazy fanboy alright. It's either that or you're just a jealous.

[Leogamer]

Firstkn1ght, I think you're too harsh on the game, but like I always say, to each his own. You are right, if you really look at the full game for what it is, it really is an average game at best with pumped up graphics on steroids. I was extremely disappointed with the MP gameplay of Killzone 2. I am too a hardcore FPS, and I when I bought the game I was hoping to spend at least this whole year playing it, the same same way I did with COD4. Unfortunately that's not the case.

What turned me off was:

1)Sluggish controls. Even with reg. practice, you're never feel confortable, and you're constantly trying to manage accuracy when players are in constant motion.

2)Spawning. I have to find my way across the field, and travel large distance to reach populated areas, or choke points. Why?

3)Not personal enough! COD4 made the game personal, in your face, full of bloody bullets and granades up your A$$. Not only that, but certain players were so good, I came across one guy who used the sniper riffle and ran around shooting everyone up and close. His accuracy was freaking deadly. I tried that and failed miserably. I needed practice, lots of practice. So I went back with my machine gun. That's why I loved and still play COD 4. You could grow with a certain gun, and master it completely. I seen guys using the rocket launcher with pin-point accuracy. Sure one hit you're dead, but I never complained, and I adjusted to the gameplay accordingly. That's the beauty of COD4. I played the same damn levels a thousand times over, but it was the players themselves that actually made the gameplay different all the time whenever I played online. That's the secret and success of COD4 on MP. Infinity Ward just put the tools there for you. And we, as gamers played the game to our own liking.
Infinity Ward are masters of the genre, and I don't care what anyone says, I personally think IW will obliterate the competition when COD MW 2 comes out. And I can't 'till this game comes out.

Anyhow on topic, what i did like about Killzone 2 was the level of attrition in the Sp battlefield campaign. Every inch the Helghans made you earn it. The higher the difficulty, the more you have to seek cover, use better tactics, and sometimes a good rush on offense was your best bet. I like how the AI tries flushing you from your cover and gradually advance and gain ground on you until they reach you, that is if you stay on one spot for too long. The A.I is excellent, but I can easily say the same thing about the game FEAR, and FEAR 2. Overall I like what Guerrilla did. The weight of the guns and the movement of the soldiers feels a little too stiff for me, but it does add a new dimension to the FPS. This is not the Vietcon, whom carried less gear as possible in the battlefield in order to be cunning and agile, but I can understand what the developers were trying to achieved. I like the game for what it is, but for my MP fix, I will continue to play COD 4, 'till COD MW 2 comes out.

Leo

[INehalemEXI]

Your always going to find something to complain about but to deny that KZ2 raised various bars for the genre is foolish.

[macalatus]

@no spin,

Sorry, but your post plainly IMPLIES that his opinion was wrong. Nice try saying that you weren't, but your WORDING says otherwise.

[edgeofblade]

I find it funny when a Killzone acolyte thinks they can deny someone free will. Guess what... I hated on Killzone 2's demo, still bought the game, and now I'm having FUN with it, mostly in online MP. Decision to mix the gametypes into one session is BRILLIANT.

But these morons who want to say "you can't deny" or "best of all time" annoy the living f**k out of me. Who are you to claim this level of absolution? Everyone has a right to their opinion, ESPECIALLY when they don't agree with yours.

Just go play your damn game and stop caring so much what other people think. For every person's validation you seek, you DIMINISH the game for others. For every person you seek to agree with you, it makes the game look like it NEEDS help to be good.

[no-spin]

My wording implies i disagree, not that he is wrong or not valid.
In America people can disagree, it has something to do with freedom

[INehalemEXI]

sorry, for my exhuberance. The game is one of the best fps of all time (IMO). No validation required you can disagree.... It's like I can't even talk positivley about Kizzy 2, in a flipping article about Kizzy 2.

Let it go people... accept the fact that games when done well deserve some attention and accolade. I say SFIV is the greatest next gen fighter to date no one gives me sh!t.

[macalatus]

@no spin,

Alright..let me help you out! I'm not saying this just for being a jerk but to help you out. I'm also doing this to you as a favor so whenever you say your opinion you will not be labeled as a hater even though you really weren't.

"In my opinion, KZ2 is not the best FPS out there because..."

Instead of "NO, it is not". See the difference there?

[no-spin]

seems fair enough.

In your opinion, why killzone 2 is so great?

[LazyDevs]

Killzone2 falls way short of being epic on any level. Single player level design all the way to the boss battles are just MEH! There is not one single part in the game that was a memorable one, sure the AA section was cool but it was boring and short. The online is laggy and the framerate is horrible the assault with rocket launcher owns all, other classes isnt crap compared to that.

[INehalemEXI]

Thats why you only get 3 missles...the classes are all balanced well overall. IMO, Though sure the guy with the heaviest weaponry is going to be a bit overpowered. If you don't take em down before its to late. Thats natural.

I recall many parts of the SP besides the AA, its not as full of memorable moments as MGS4 , but then people complained about to much Video's in MGS4 which there were many memerable vids. Alot of memorable gaming moments as well.That was an Epic that lifted the fog on alot from previous metal gears like a culmanating gaming event. KZ Universe is just getting started.

Templar's death, The mech, Radec, The scientist lady , The stunning intro, The ATAC, The train. The big thing though was that just at all times while playing the visuals where sweet. It could of had more cinematics and more story nothing is perfect though and fps usually are not big in those areas anyway.

Its so easy to just cloak and pick off assault heroes as a sniper. Every class is strong or weak depending upon the situation/circumstances.

What I thought was meh was not much variety of enemy character models and not enough females. There should of been some badas5 helgahn women, and more ISA chicks too.

[Bizmal]

Not so sure if this is about it being special as much as it's about it being a great quality game that few seem to want to rip on. How many of you have actully played it and how many have just read and watched it online.

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

thing i can say is i would rather play this than resistance 2. But thats not saying much considering i would rather slam my head in a car door than play that with its repeatitive enemies and garbage graphics. KZ2 is cool but nothign mind blowing.

[Snake Raiser]

Garbage graphics pretty much proves that you are a fanboy. Read the first post.

[socomnick]

He is saying that resistance 2 has garbage graphics. I can agree with him, resistance 2 is a very ugly unpolished game, the 2d fireball sprites, the bad level design, horrible flat surfaces and the ugly ugly backgrounds. Res 2 was a terrible game.

[NateDPG]

You obviously need your eyes checked

[cobhatecrew]

and killzone has way more going on at once then resident evil 5 will ever have so the graphics speak for its self.

[Jerk120]

Killzone 2 is a mediocre FPS and it certainly is no Halo 3, Gears 2 or COD4.

The only thing this game has are its graphics. The only thing you can go on and on about are its graphics.

I've stated many times before and I'll state it now, graphics is everything that this game is.

Comparing it to other FPS' as an FPS in general, it's a flop.

[Bathyj]

Thats funny, most the talk I hear is how fun and well thought out the MP is. People are over the graphics even though they are still the best you can get. Its the gameplay keeping everyone coming back.

"I've stated many times before". No sh*t, you sound like a retared parrot. To bad your opinion an uneducated one and therefore should be ignored.

But you wouldn't know troll. You've never played it and have no life. If you want to play it should be in traffic.

[gamersden]

Halo 3 is not even on the league as KZ2

Halo 3 looks like an iphone game vs kz2. and so does Gears 2 . vids posted above

as for comparison KZ2 obliterates Gears 2 and Halo 3

KZ2
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Gears2 LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

halo3 at 600p MEGA LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watc... hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

KZ2 has killed all fps on consoles

KZ2 has

best MP

best enemy AI

best graphics on consoles

most intense SP mode

Most intense final boss battles

most immersive gameplay

KZ2 has 92.4% at meta.

It tears away all fps on crap box 3 fix me

SONY might have also sold like 2m copies WW by now

[taco_tom237]

how about u kill yourself

[AssassinHD]

It is ok Bathyj. Sleipnir really believes that Killzone 2 is the most awesome FPS ever. If he disagrees all he has to do is reply to this post. I will assume that he agrees if he does not.

[Spike47]

Killzone 2 has recieved mostly positive feedback. The only negative feedback comes from the fanboys who are in denial.

[Spike47]

"Graphics are fake", then it was " AI sucks", and now its "nothing special". LOL

[Lastlivingsoul]

I love Killzone 2. I will be perfectly honest I had very low expectations for this game. I liked games like Fear/Fear2, Resistance2, and HalfLife. But I never really liked Call of Duty or Unreal Tournament and Halo to me is just not fun. But this is the most addictive game I've played since PixelJunk Monsters. For me personally, Killzone 2 is the best FPS (multiplayer) I've ever played. The only thing that could top this is if Bioshock2 was able find a good way to integrate it's amazing gameplay into a worthwhile multiplayer experience...but that may be asking to much.

[Unicron]

It's sad that we no longer celebrate good titles. Instead of we nitpick and spit vitriol at everything and anything we can, and the console a game is on is more important than the title itself.

[WengYong]

Welcome to the next gen, where idiots from both sides buy into Sony and Microsoft hype and defend their system and their games with their life. Its sickening. There are good games on both systems. Get them both and take your friggin goggles off people.

Killzone 2 was a good game,a very good game. Now IMO Halo sucks, but thats my opinion. Gears series was awesome. There are good games on both systems FFS, get them both. Unless your a little snot nosed kid whos parents wont allow them to get another system, then its lol on you.

I for one say, death to the fanboys !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fanboys = Helghast and Locust

[Petraeus]

Why does it have to be fanbois? Why does everyone have to kneel down and praise KZ2 as being perfect?

It's not. It's also not being a fanboi to point that out.

If the game is THAT good then it should be able to stand up to a little criticism without everyone getting up in arms trying to drown out it's detractors.

Let the game speak for itself if you believe so strongly in its quality.

[Socomer 1979]

but since there are hardcore call of duty fans out there in the world then imagine how it would be with killzone graphics?!?
call of duty is great but killzone 2 is graduating.
Knowing killzone history the story was fantastic.
I never used martydom or last stand in cod but killzone 2 is just as personal & bloodier.
sabotuer is as personal as it gets when he's armed with a shotgun and downs you & you call for a medic & the proximity mic kicks in so that the sabotuer says fck you & blows your head off.

Your head tumbles away in the wind swept sands.

[Leogamer]

Socomer, 1979 LOl

I disagree with you but I had to laugh at your post. Ya guys been playing too much lately. To everyone here whose losing their shorts over nothing, is just a damn game. I enjoyed Killzone 2 for what it is. Bought the game brand new, which I hardly do. I like to support developers out there whom spend years crafting their talent. I think the wait was well worth it. I hope Killzone 3 is even better, and hopefully it can bloody my nose like COD 4 did. Anyhow, let's all keep playing these awesome games, 'cause we're all gamers here first. I don't post here much, but I like reading posts that actually state why they like a certain game, or what they don't like about it. Is all a matter of opinion, so let's all chillout, smoke a joint, and turn on our PS3's. Keep on gaming...

Leo

[Blitzed]

I have never seen a game come under such scrutiny. No game would hold up under the magnifying glass that KZ2 is under. Its a good game, its fun IMO but the again I dont expect a hand shake from God for completing it.

I understand that some fanboys tout it as the best game ever made, but how is that worse than the people that are obsessed with knocking it down a peg. (Leogamer- Im looking at you -new account-10 comments-8 are short novels about how KZ2 is crap).

I mean, unless you have a vested interest with seeing the game fail, how else can it be perceived than sour grapes that it received critical acclaim and people are enjoying it, when you are seemingly staying awake at night obsessed with bringing this game down. Like the article says KZ2 is good, get the f*ck over it.

Now back to KZ2 , hopefully I'll get that handshake tonight.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Everyone is trying to tear this game apart. For whatever their reason is, it needs to stop. KZ2 is a good game, and it's time for all the people who spent the last two years hating on it to simply admit they were wrong and move on.

[badkolo]

Im way past this stage, do i like kz2, does it meet my expectations, did the graphics live up to the hype, was the capaign the best out there, did the mp live up to the promise and did kz2 show itself as a beacon of hope for the ps3. Did the hype and years of getting it ready come through???..

It's fun to come here or any forum and do the back and fourth saga with all you guys but what it boils down to is did YOU enjoy the game and thats what I asked myself and came to the conclusion that killzone2 does what cod4 did, it does what gears2 did and it does what halo did.

The rage is fps, the 360 proves that fps is strong, you got hyped and wanted to kz2 to succeed knowing well in advance it was a fps so lets get that over with, is it the best game ever, NO, is it the best lookig, yes and no, is it a seriously solid game that will give GG credit for creating a game that lived up to its hype, well hell yeah.

IT has superb graphics, it has flaws throughout, the mp is fun and solid and has flaws that are knit picked at, there is bugs throughout, the story is lacking etc... but issues have swiftly been patched and will continue to do so and to that i say this.

almost every single game has arrivd with issues, unbalanced mp, lack of story, lack of features, and all needed patches just like halo, gears,cod4, so lay off.

[silverchode]

the best class is the assault.

[CriminallyInsane]

is fooking fantastic.

Just as the game "Black" was last generation.

Killzone sets a new mark for FPS. It may be dark and gritty, but it's so much fun. A real modern day Gem.

Haters, get focked

[aueslander]

Nothing worse then when you come in here, say a game like KZ2 is a good game but you have some issues with it, and then a KZ2 fanboy jumps on you saying that what you found wrong is not wrong and that you have no choice but to say the game is the greatest ever. First off, I dont think a FPS can ever be considered best game ever since MOST (with exception like Bio Shock and Half Life) have very poor to super crappy SP stories and voice acting and I am sorry but, a game cant be called best ever just due to the multi-player.

I read something funny on here where someone asked that if KZ2 is so bad then why did it get so many great scores? The problem with that is Halo 3 got even BETTER scores and it still has people who say it sucked.

Bottom line, to the uber-fanboys, get over yourself. No game is the greatest ever ESPECIALLY when it hasn't even been out for a month.

FInally, someone can like a game but still find flaws with it and that doesnt automatically make them a fanboy. SImply put, everything is subjective and please, dont get so butt hurt if someone does not agree with you.

[Whiteford88]

In my opinion, which I don't see why I'm writing this, because it's the truth so I'm going to be ignored.....

Killzone 2 is an amazing game, no doubt, and before ya'll go OH MY GOD PS3 Fanboy!!! Just stfu and read...

To say the least I'm dissapointed in all gamers... Killzone 2 is an amazing game, and deserves recognition, and yes alot of "360 Fanboys" as you people like to call them like to bash the game, because of two reasons:
They don't like the game because it's on the PlayStation, Period.
They don't like the game, because it's not how they like to play

I would say the first one, because all you hear from "360 bots, fanboys, watever" Killzone 1 was sh!t, ect.
But Playstation people (Like myself, I'm not a fanboy, I just had a Playstation before anything else, so I stick with what I know to avoid confusion) don't forget most of you PlayStation "Droids" i think it is, you also do it to Xbox 360 game, so wake up, ok?
Not trying to bash any games here, but i don't like Halo 3, I loved 1-2, but not 3. But does that make it a bad game??? No, it makes it a game that you don't like, so go, return it and get a game you do like.
Gears of War, i like that game, more than the Resistance series, but does that mean GoW is 10000000x better than Resistance? no, our opinions vary, from person to person..

My point I am trying to prove is, well, two things:
Playstation dudes, you do it to, so just ignore it and stop doing it, you hypocritical bastards.
Everyone has different opinions, and it is sad to hear that you so called "Gamers" A.K.A people who choose a console and bash the other console, bash every game on the other system, trying to seem as least biased as posible just to prove a console is better than the other..

You gamers dissapoint me, once again, I'm a gamer... someone who prefers a console, has a computer, and stick with what he's got, not comes onto websites from Live/PSN (Sorry to say it, but you live people are the worst at this..) and bash the other console to death just so you can feel good about your product.

Get a life people.. It's a competition between companys, don't make it more than that, it's quite sad you need to sit infront of your computer and write lines and lines explaining why your console it better...

Play a game for what it's worth, and don't bash another console because the game isn't on the console or you don't get to play another game, and then you might be considered to be a gamer..

Craig.

Now watch all the Disagrees I get!!!

[donnie-2105]

apart from the admitedly superb graphics killzone2 is a generic run of the mill shooter.the famed revolution of a cover system has been done in moh airbourne this gen and fear1.once the initial awe of the graphics wore off i was left with a deep sense of disappointment and anticlimax.although unlike some i did think it nailed the feelings of being in a war zone.it was just the gameplay felt so old,sniper levels,tanks ect..personally wish i could have got it on the 360 as live would have been a massive benefit to the game even with a slight down grade in visuals.

[ShabzS]

wooah ... i have no input about this article coz i really havent played the game yet... but just wanna point out at the number of disagrees for a pro xbox comments and agrees for a pro ps comment... wow ..lol.. ps3 fanboys outnumber xbots huh.. well all i have to say is this... you should love the GAMES respect the consoles... all of em.. stupid fanboys you're not gamers at all..

[smokeymicpot]

Killzone is a average FPS with good graphics. If you say I never played the game look at my trophies.

[Jacobite]

I mostly play PC fps with K&M, and I have played a few console fps with the joypad on various consoles. Halo 1&2, (sp only)Black, (few levels )Haze, (middle of the road)and had shots of other console fps like COD4 and Halo3, but Killzone 2 does feel rather special, a cut above the rest that keeps me wanting to have another go, no way this game is average in anyway. Up their with the best.

[gameman]

no dear the best one is the sniper

[Snake Raiser]

Just goes to show how good the game is. You have people who can't agree on which class is the best. Good balance.

[jeseth]

I can't believe that some of you people call yourselves video game players! Have you forgotten why you play video games in the first place? Give the blind hatred and jealousy act up. Its immature and makes you look ignorant.

I've been playing video games for a good 20 years now, I started on NES and to see a game and experience the atmosphere of Killzone 2 is just incredible.

This game is absolutely a blast. I honestly can't believe that anyone who has REALLY played this game thinks it is bad or mediocre. It has set the bar in just about everything. It took everything great about console FPS games and pumped steriods into it. Call of Duty feels like slow motion now. I go back to play COD and I can't get over how far apart it is from KZ2. COD is and always has been an easy shooter to be good at. Especially with its lame perks system (juggernaut, martyrdom, etc.) COD allows mediocre players to be good. KZ2 online forces you to be good. If you try and camp, you're gonna get smoked and your team will lose. KZ2 online makes you feel desperate to complete objectives and the atmosphere is fast, furious, and chaotic. Like war. The continuosly changing objective during the match is also an excellent innovation to online play. It makes you more balanced as a player. And it does this with the most amazing visuals ever on a console.

The whole game is sensory overload. Graphics, sound, shading, physics, bullet hit recognition, environment destruction, and animation is top notch. The game is beautiful. Why can't people just admit that? I think Fable, though it is a young franchise, is a masterpiece. It really introduced how your choices affect your character and changed your story. Its incredible. I don't understand why Xbox Fanboys can't accept that KZ2 is a benchmark for FPS games to be judged. It really has set the bar.

And as far as it having no good story? The story to Killzone is actually really good if you had played the previous games and KZ2 feels like a hollywood action movie from start to finish. When Visari nukes his own capital city and kill tons of his own citizens just to try and take out the ISA, it is incredible. One of the most amazing and memorable scenes in a video game.

Remember why you play video games in the first place. TO HAVE FUN. Killzone 2 is a blast from start to finish and if this is what the PS3 can do after basically 2 years, imagine what year 4 or 5 will be like. Games like KZ2 also force other game makers to raise their own standards.

And that is a good things for all gamers.

[Morgue]

Without reading the article or any of these post's it's called the internet and people that are losers that have nothing better to do than sit around or stay up all night posting on they're blog and nit-picking about every little thing or dumb kids that were born after 1995. You want too complain? I'm 39. Try playing Pac Mac at the arcade then waiting in line at Target too buy it for the Atari, then you bring it home and it looks nothing like the arcade version.

Maybe this site should be called News 4 Complainers instead of gamers.

[00000000000000000001]

The losers are the people that keep going on how great KZ2 is. The multiplayer might be great, but the single player is just an average game, very short. I spent three days playing it and could care less about picking it up again. Just to many other good games to play the first time, instead of playing KZ2 again.

[donnie-2105]

the above posters- like i said previously if you take away the graphics what are you left with.AVERAGE GAME at best with identikit enemies no comms online dodgy controls.having loads of players in a game online does not improve games in my opinion(ie res2)games such as shooters are allways best played 8 on 8 max or they just end up a uncoordinated mess.on subject k2 online has no one even trying to complete the rolling objectives just a big deathmatch.and how can you work as a team when the chats such a poor quality or its completely silent.i own both consoles and the ps3 hasnt got a decent enough online service to do most of its shooters any justice,as ive stated wish the game was on 360.SUCH A SHAME AND A WASTE ON PSN

[Morgue]

It's comments like this that make me shake my head. Strip the graphics off of Gears 1&2 and what do you have? An average 360 game that could be mistaken for TUROK or TOO HUMAN? You know what who cares???!! This is like, my D$*k is bigger than yours and it's getting old especially since KZ2 came out. You own a 360, don't have KZ2? Then shut your trap, no ones cares what you have too say and especially if you own both systems and say you'd rather play Call of Duty like my friend, who changed his controller settings so it's set up like CoD and now thinks the game is awesome. WHATEVER

[andron]

I would say that if you don't like KZ2, you probably don't like FPSs or Sci-fi.

For all of us who do, it's game of the year material when it comes to FPSs...

[PimplePopperMD]

counter strike is a better game

[SprayandPreycom]

hasnt done better than halo 3

why are the same articles always on every section ...

[mastiffchild]

Not in terms of sales but in terms of accomplishment and bringing it's series forwards it trumps Halo3 at every step. Halo3 was another installment on an already stellar series whereas KZ2s heritage is one overambitious PS2 glitch fest and an admirable PSP TPS so the sales comparison was always going to be pointless here with Killzone2 having a far smaller existing fanbase.
Maybe you can judge Killzone3 against whatever Halo flavoured stuff MS bring out(if any)around the same tume as that but otherwise pretty much all the Halo/Killzone comparisons are aimless. The only true similarity they share is being the flagship sci fi FPS on their systema -and even then among other strong games -so can't we just enjoy KZ2 and hope the ODST offers more in SP than Halo3 did.

[Condemnedman]

That's IT ...It's a good game NOT the best game ever like some people are saying ..simple

[Chaoticsoulx]

As quoted by destructiod, it is the best fps this generation, both in terms of graphics, and gameplay, it's just so much fun!

[donnie-2105]

graphics almost definetly gameplay certainly not.gears2 cod4 even world at war are better in my opinion single and multi.think to many ps3 owners are caught up in the graphics and hype.the phrase i keep coming too is run of the mill or if you want a highly polished turd of a game.

[Shane Kim]

Hi guys, I'm back. I just bought KZ2 yesterday and haven't been able to stop playing. The multiplayer is just insanely fun. I dare every xbox fanboy to honestly say that the MP sucks after they have tried it out. The MP is as addicting as crack, I've been playing it for 10 hrs straight now. Reached to the engineer badge, awesome game.

[edgeofblade]

I love my Xbox. I love my Halo. I... sorta like my Gears. I think Kaz Hirai is a moron. I think Killzone 2's MP is awesome. And I LOL and everyone who already disagreed with me before I praised Killzone 2 for something.

[Snake Raiser]

Your comment was short enough to avoid that.

[achira]

best game ever!

[SprayandPreycom]

its ez to say its the best fps this gen ...

[Blink_44]

lol omg im so sick of all these killzone 2 articles.
I have it its great but this is starting to get really annoying

[Knightofelemia]

Killzone 2 a good game is wrong Killzone 2 is a great game it beat my expectations. I put on Cod 4 i feel meh and get bord quickly i put on KIllzone 2 and I enjoy paying it

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Missing was Co-op missing was big bosses missing was 20 hours of gameplay .Missing was etc...

Due to the hi fidelity graphics and technology limited Resources, I am about to stop buying games and just rent them..
It is obvious the industry needs maturing..

But I feel kinda stupid for spending 65 on a game that last 10 hours and most of it repetitive gun battles. The only game that did much for me was Gran tourismo and Uncharted..
up till now im not satisfied like i was back in the days of say dreamcast and PS2.
Sad it takes 4 years to make a game!!!people get married move ,die ,end up with other priorities!!!
Rent until we get more substance,,
Thats Why there should be only 2 consoles or one for that matter!!!

[Yomiro]

Great Game, Great System !!!

[Salta_nelas]

The scrutinity this game is under is something never seen before in any console game.

Game is out for almost a month and haters are still actively searching or comming up with flaws.

I guess these haters lack AAA games to play.

Get real.

[Arcturus]

this was the main reason for me getting a ps3 last summer but after playing it fully i feel like it did disappoint me a little bit. MGS4 was just a greater experience imo.

[teto83]

KZ is the best shooter i have ever played... even better than my beloved COD4. The MP is so good.... it's chaotic yet fun. The AI is so smart is not like other games were they do more damage, they actually feel like other people is shooting at you. and let's not forget the cliffhanging ending.... KZ3 is coming.

Who fails to see that KZ2 is a great game just fails @ life or even worst is an xbox owner

[edgeofblade]

So, Halo 2 has a cliffhanger ending and it sucks... but Killzone 2 has a cliffhanger ending in the same vein and it's amazing? That's the poster child for double stnadards.

[Snake Raiser]

It does kinda depend on how good of a cliffhanger the ending of a game is. I have played games where there was a cliffhanger and I was just "OMFG" (Assassins creed) Then I played others where I completely didn't care.

[rTR-Pioneer]

pointless article is pointless.

[torreyjs]

WHY are sony fanboy blogs being posted as news?

[Bobbie001]

Im getting sick of this nonscence, I was hyped for this game, and in the end am I satisfied? HELL YEAH, this game is frggn awesome. Stop the hating, I mean cmon.. Its getting ridiculous, there was never so much hating when it still was ps2 vs gamecube vs Xbox!!
Fanboys I HATE YOU ALL

[natedogg25]

Let it bee. Let it be...

[vTuro24]

anyway lol, IMO KZ2 is the best shooter this gen. i played the demo and it was awesome, played it so much i lost count lol. also played a part of singleplayer(full version) somewhere else but i forgot xD

saving up for full game, got €60...€10 more to go...can't wait...3 exams next week, damn them :(

[Snake Raiser]

Welcome, you should also say high to the guys in the forums. Just make a forum say, I'm new.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

ok since your new i'll try to back you up when ever you get caught up in a sh1t storm (KZ2 phrase) with the X-BUTT's the 360 should by filed in to one of the X-Files cus there's no known cause to the RROD lol! *paranormal activity*

[Bullseye]

i would like to ask why so many people are so intent on defending what is, afterall, a very average FPS.
"Killzone 2 a vey average game,let it go!" But I know you won't :)

[Jacobite]

Why defending Killzone 2 ? because its a good game *not average" Haze was a average game. I mostly play PC fps C.O.D 2&4, M.O.H's,Unreal serious (UT to UT3),Farcry ,Crisis and Joint ops games, and I've played a few console games Halo, G.O.W, R2 ect. Killzone 2 is good. Maybe not to some tastes doe'st make any less of a good game. I think Halo3 sp is over rated game, but thats my opinion doe'st stop it being good for others, like my son he loves it.

[teto83]

i like it so much and if anybody disagrees with my opinion then u a r probably wrong or even worst... an xbox person.

[PimplePopperMD]

saw some pipes..saw the shadows of the pipes...with nothing actually there to produce shadows. sure the pipes cast the shadows but there is no light source anywhere on the map. how are those shadows being cast?

the game is not good and if you people raised your standards, you would realize this. a game that cost this much to make and took this much time to produce should not have any corners cut. Uncharted is still the best looking game on ps3. kz2 is pathetic.

[J-Rock281]

Oh wow...it's just a game guys seriously. And I'm pretty sure that most people that say Killzone sucks doesn't even own a PS3.

[Mike Wallace]

I've realized that the comments section on N4G is just a big PS3 circle jerk.

Click agree. THX!

[STIKUP ARTIST]

I like killzone 2 but not once did i feel like (omg this game is the sh!t.) The graphics are what I expect for 2009. I still think RE 5 looks a little better. Killzone is good but I doubt 5 years from now I will be reminiscing about how ill the game was.

[teto83]

KZ2 it's so cool barak obama plays it. How is it that i know?? because he joined my clan saturday. He was on the receiving end of a few head shots in Radek academy over the weekend though, because of the controls.

He's even going to pass a bill to outlaw the use of rocket lunchers in small maps and it's going to give everybody in america the Air support ribbons for free(how about that ,huh?).

If any body wants to join my clan it's called RRoDs

[denied]

this Halo and Gears of War looks wash out and Kz2 does not come close to Mr. James Bond.. The N64 is the true next Gen console... You just got OWN!!!!

[Snake Raiser]

Dang, your internet take 15 years to post your comment? Golden eye was good though.

[Silent]

When you rank up not only you can unlock weapons and you can pick med/sniper/engineer. It seems very fair.

[denied]

the N64 is the system to have, It own with a pation

[mega BIG time]

Wow every comment either pro PS3 or anti xbox, no matter how fanboyistic (word?) receives nearly 5-1 agrees to disagrees. Whereas any comment complimenting the 360 or dare anti-PS3 is overwhelmingly disagreed.

[torreyjs]

stupid n4g is nearly a waste of time

TIP: For real news read the articles that are very low on heat, those typically have real news in them. Not fanboy blogs posted as news

[mega BIG time]

I like n4g, hate most of the members. Is there a gaming news site with educated, rational, unbiased members? Cuz that'd be b!tchin

[Ron Zook]

frackin retarded article. everyone that has played the game knows it kicks ass. everyone that hasnt is just a poor little whiney beyatch!

[PSGamingInc]

and an auto aim glitch for the ages. Please Guerilla this is not something you want to be stubborn on. More and more people are becoming aware of the auto aim debacle and more and more it is seriously breaking the game. It needs to be fixed.

[kornbeaner]

There is no auto aim debacle. Auto aim is meant for games that require twitch like reflexs so that people can actually manage to play those games. Killzone 2 is not a run and gun type shooter. Its a run for cover pop and shoot, hurry and move before they come get you type of game. This game is not call of duty, I would wish people would just accept that. Killzone is Killzone and is fine as is, while there are bugs that are very annoying, aiming is not one of them or even a valid one at this point, the aiming system works as designed and is great move for this game.

[Snake Raiser]

Auto aim debacle? There is no auto aim. Nuff' said, I try to avoid responding to haters.

BTW every body the controls take getting used to, but after an hour you won't notice.

[RealtorMDandDC]

I have played all the Halos........and they do not compare in terms of intensity...graphics.....and pure fun....

OK..People this is what you have to consider.....NO LAG....it may sound stupid..it may sound repetitive..it may sound cliche...

But if you ever had a chance to play something online with so much chaos going on.....with 32 player and NO LAG..that is priceless..

edit:@PSGamingInc - there is no auto AIM...what r u talking about...?

[xWHACKYTABACKYx]

There are things wrong with every game ever played. KillZone used to make me mad as heck when i played online and still does but i love it..you cannot compare it to another game, its evolution. The action is a work of art.I admit alot of things happen that are annoying like continuously killing an enemy at the same time he turns around and headshots kills you, but one thing you cannot complain about is the spawns which is one of my big griefs with any multiplayer game including spawn killing halo. Which by the way was the let down of the year, and i will still admit the game rocked early on when thats all there was, but HELLO in comes COD4 and it was all over.Halo had a good party, system level system, but button glitches, super jumps, and spawn kills ruined it. But you can see where i am coming from when i say there are faults in any game, and you can't compare any of them to each other cause they are all different unless a sequel(upgrade). I agree i think people are scared that people will all get KillZone 2 and leave them all behind in the dust with there Halo 3 game and helmet.

[torreyjs]

Stupid blog article that isnt news somehow gets posted as news

GG N4g is terrible now

[Snake Raiser]

Definitely not a troll.... The best artcle I ever submitted. I like to have to final comment. -0 (Salutes.)

[Snake Raiser]

I like to have to final comment on one of the best stories I ever submitted.