Does Killzone 2 take Call of Duty 4's Crown?

It only took me two hours to come to the conclusion that Call of Duty 4 was finally trumped as king. My decision based upon writing this article fell only on the reason that I want every FPS fan to play this game. If you do not have a Playstation 3, and you love FPS, now is the best time to go ahead and pick one up, along with a copy of Killzone 2.

[DelbertGrady]

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Nuff said.

[FaSeCeX]

idk bout it taking the crown or anything, but clan support is awesome on this game..so is the class system and their abilities

overall this article is crap tho, like my 60gb ps3 (died on me) ive noticed more 60gb's starting to die recently, more than usual...if u happen to be one of the unlucky 1's that have a ps3 start blinking a red light at you..ck its power supply before sending it in..more times than not it seems to be what craps out on u..u can easily fix it

[thor]

It's an opinion piece. These get posted all the time here on N4G. Just because it's HHG doesn't mean it should fail... it's actually quite well-written. It's impressions of Killzone 2, and is worthy of being posted here. It doesn't break any guidelines.

Edit:
Don't quite know why I'm getting disagreed with here... can someone tell me which guidelines this article breaks, compared to one entitled "Killzone 2 impressions"? Because I'm sure that we've had hundreds of THOSE articles and that's fine, because they're good to read, and completely valid.

[riderofpl4gues]

I wrote the article for HHG. Thank you for the feeback.

[GWAVE]

It's an opinion piece, just like the many opinion articles stating that "Halo 4 will blow Killzone 2 out of the water" and whatnot. Of course, here on N4G it always seems that any article that takes an overly pro-Sony stance is worthy of reporting, but singing the praises of Microsoft (even if it means fudging the facts) is perfectly legit.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Then go start up O4G.com. Last I checked this was still NEWS for Gamers.
The fact that it's going to hell doesn't mean we have to help speed it along on its way with this, does it?

[aceitman]

im sure u have a 360 by your comment anything to down the ps3 and its sucess did u notice how many 360s died im on my 6th one how about u

[pswi60]

you cannot deny that CoD:4 is one of the best shooters ever

but you cannot deny that Killzone 2 is also one of the best

there is always room at the top for epic games like this

[pixelsword]

You already admitted you were a racist, and a "hardcore" one at that

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

I can't really say that you will look at the article for what it is, but by who it's by.

[Kyur4ThePain]

THAT was an utterly retarded comment.
Why are you bringing that into this discussion?

[Shepherd 214]

cod4 never had the crown, no matter what you say

[Kaliumhest]

I can honestly say that shooting in Killzone 2 just feels much better than it does in CoD4, Gears 2, Resistance 2 etc. You just want to sqeeze that trigger and blow some Helghast to Helghan with the awesome weapons.

On the multiplayer side of things, it's pretty much just as good as CoD4, while better in some areas.

Overall, a game you HAVE to pick up if you own a PS3. If you don't, you should consider getting one now.

[Gantrfaxx]

As far as i'm concerned it takes the crown because i'm not even thinking of COD anymore and i'm not that interested in COD6. Definitely not if it's gonna be like COD4 with new maps and 3 new weapons and without dedicated servers.
For now Kz2 multiplayer is perfect to me and is one step ahead of any console FPS.

[THE TRUTH]

In my humble opinion CoD4 never really had a FPS crown. I guess the fact that CoD4 didn't really have the depth to keep me into the online aspect of the game is a real fault of the game overall. Killzone 2 is just on another whole level as far as I am concerned. Graphics wise, gameplay wise and overall fun wise it completly trumps CoD4.

The gameplay changes with each new objective in Killzone 2, completly changing the gameplay elements every 5 or so minutes and makes gamers not only work together for victories but challenges gamers who choose certain job classes to play at different angles throughout the game. The gamplay alone is what makes the game so exciting to play because of the balance and so many elements going on all at once.

GG really out did themselves with this game, CoD4 is a great game for a pick upand play type setting but it fails to really get gamers involved on the level Killone2 does. The statment "war perfected" really puts things into perspective because it takes teamwork and really an understanding of your job and squad to really dominate this game. CoD4 is really a more single player online experience where teamwork isn't as needed, one player can totally dominate the multiplayer aspect of the game.

Seriously I am exctited everytime I turn on my ps3 and ready to play some warzone, a few beers and my clan members included and I'm off for hours. I love the controls and the total feel of the game. Overall as a gamer this is the kind of game that moves the bar so other developers step their game up, the end result is exciting because now developers have to raise the bar instead of stream rolling FPS's out the gate.

I'm seriously awaiting the next game that can trump a game like Killzone2, what a great time to be a gamer!

Psn is Sumtynnaztee clan= wWw (worldWide westside)

The next game on my radar is zipper's M.A.G.

[pixelsword]

How is it "utterly retarded" I'm pointing out that an admitted "hardcore racist" may have a skewed opinion about a website made by a person who is African American and has Latinos, Asians, and Caucasians writing articles and doing upkeep on the site?

You'd be utterly retarded not to factor in that detail in dealing with a person's comments; you can easily point out a PS3 or 360 fanboy when it comes to what they say when they talk about games, but for some reason a person say they're racist then I'm supposed to keep that quiet when they talk about people who write certain articles for some reason.

Screw that.

[Kyur4ThePain]

So let me get this straight...every time he posts something that is related in some direct or indirect way to something a person of color / ethnicity other than his own said, you're going to call him out for being a racist?

If that's the case, YOU, my friend, are the one with the problem.
In no way am I condoning racism, but you're taking it way too far.

[evrfighter]

"How is it "utterly retarded" I'm pointing out that an admitted "hardcore racist" may have a skewed opinion about a website made by a person who is African American and has Latinos, Asians, and Caucasians writing articles and doing upkeep on the site?"

Your very well aware of how much negativity HHG generates here at n4g for allowing articles that are clearly hit pieces to be posted. Trying to pull a racist card on what many feel to be the truth is just plain stupid.

It actually goes beyond just being a console fanboy. But makes you look like a high school drama queen.

[pixelsword]

every time he posts something that is related in some direct or indirect way to something a person of color / ethnicity other than his own said, I was going to call him out for being a racist?

Or did I say that I can't really say that he would look at the article for what it is, but by who it's by.

Do you think 360 fanboys look at PS3 articles a certain way?

Do you think PS3 fanboys look at 360 articles a certain way?

So why would I think a racist WOULDN'T look at certain articles a certain way?

That's just a dumb thing to say, Kyur.

If that's the case, then every time a 360 or PS3 fanboy says something bad about a rival console's game, article, or positive review, then ***it's all based upon facts, and no console based bias at all.

Yeah, that's really intelligent.

***Not to say that it can't be based on facts, but like my original comment said: "I CAN'T REALLY SAY that (they) will look at the article for what it is, but by who it's by (or in this case, what it is for)"... but if you admit you were hated the other console, and "hardcore" at that, then again; I can't really say.

[pixelsword]

WTF are you talking about a racist "card"? Is racism a game? You see racism as fun? Are you betting on it or something?

I didn't pull a "card" of any kind. I didn't say "Soda is saying that because hhg is black" I said what I said because Soda himself said he was a racist.

There's a difference.

Know it before you comment.

And HHG may make "flamboyant" article titles, but no more than Kotaku or other sites; and if you don't like an article or a site that writes an article, it only make a person look stupid by consistently commenting on something he had a choice of reading or not reading.

P.S. @ SODA:

Dude, I apologize for having this drag out to these dimensions, I was only talking to you, but I guess people who see the need to want to ring the "anti-political correctness" bell like a bunch of deranged Quasimotos will want to milk this.

I was just making a jab at you (because of your own comment), and these "pointing out racism is racist" people want to take it too far, as usual.

[MNicholas]

It's like arcade vs sim. You can't compare one with the other. COD 4 and 5 are surely the best "arcade" style shooters out there whereas amongst shooters, nothing screams "sim" quite like Killzone 2.

Some will genuinely prefer the more accessible pick-up and play "arcade" feel of the COD series while others, once they taste the weighty realism and immersion of Killzone 2, will find anything else cheap and distasteful.

[pixelsword]

Yeah, CoD4 is a great game, I wouldn't knock it, but it's auto-aim puts it strictly in the "arcade" genre, and Killzone's weighted guns put it in the "sim" genre; although I wish you could put on more armor and such in either game.

[evrfighter]

"I didn't pull a "card" of any kind. I didn't say "Soda is saying that because hhg is black" I said what I said because Soda himself said he was a racist."

So what part of his comment was racist? or are you just attacking him because he said he was racist. If his comment wasn't shared by many people here at n4g you might have had a point. But the truth is any regular at n4g knows HHG is only in it for hit pieces. So what's the problem?

As far as racism itself goes I can care less about the issue I may be a minority but I'm neither black or white and so in my opinion (which is my opinion so it's not debatable) the racism topic is boring and doesn't concern me. Sure that makes me ignorant but I honestly don't give a damn so spare me the moral defender of justice on his high horse comments.

[pixelsword]

1. why are you so ardent to defend an admitted racist? :)

At any rate to answer your "questions"...

2. "So what part of his comment was racist?"
*Did I say any part of his comment was racist, or did I give a link with Soda stating that he was a racist? Are you filling in blanks just to justify your own inner opinions? RULE NUMBER ONE: It's called reading comprehension... learn it.

3. "or are you just attacking him because he said he was racist"

*How is pointing out a comment HE said attacking him? Can't really answer that one, huh?

4. "If his comment wasn't shared by many people here at n4g you might have had a point. But the truth is any regular at n4g knows HHG is only in it for hit pieces. So what's the problem?"

*A. Everyone is in it for the hit pieces; from the sites to the contributors, so you're not saying anything there. Irregardless if everyone on earth shared his comment, that doesn't detract from the point that I was making; which was that "I COULDN'T REALLY SAY that he will look at the article for what it is, but by who it's by".

5. "As far as racism itself goes I can care less about the issue I may be a minority but I'm neither black or white and so in my opinion (which is my opinion so it's not debatable) the racism topic is boring and doesn't concern me. Sure that makes me ignorant but I honestly don't give a damn so spare me the moral defender of justice on his high horse comments."

*A. Obviously you give a damn if you're going to butt-in and make the comments you made, since no one was talking to you in the first place.

*B. Why do you think Soda is Caucasian? I never said he was Caucasian, again: that's YOU who are filling in blanks. People like you think all because people can post anonymously on the web, it's only Caucasian people saying racist things. He could be the same "minority" as you for all we know; so how did you come to that conclusion? You look at his avatar and think that he was a Caucasian? Well guess what, buddy: I'm not really a sword.

[evrfighter]

why I'm defending a racist you ask? because like I said I don't give a damn about the topic. I only saw you making an idiot out of yourself by posting something that's completely irrelevant to what he wrote and commented on it.

"How is pointing out a comment HE said attacking him? Can't really answer that one, huh?"

Your link would have had more bang if he wasn't right. In other words it's kinda like this

Stewie: Well, that works out perfectly because I CAN HURT YOU! (grabs the gun and aims at Lois' face) Say hi to Cleveland for me! Oh, and Mr. Weed.
(dramatic pause; a gunshot is heard, Lois is unhurt, Stewie looks down at his bleeding chest, another shot is heard and hits Stewie in the head; Peter is seen holding a smoking gun)
Peter: It's just been revoked!
Brian: Uh, Peter, we didn't really set you up for that Lethal Weapon line. It... it doesn't really work here.

as far as everything else about racism you seemed to ramble on about. I won't get into a debate I really don't care at all about. Point is a guy came out and said he's racist (oh wow big whoop) he disagrees with an HHG article (Like MANY people here). You bring up he's a racist completely out of left field like your some sort of political radio host that's fighting the good fight and letting people know the truth.

he's a racist....so what? does it give you some sort "HA I just pwned you!!!! cuz I linked everyone to when you said you were racist and you disagree with HHG cuz your racist!!!11" satisfaction?

[pixelsword]

way to go.

All you can do is call someone names and quote Family Guy.

Wow.

I am so done here...

knock yourself out quoting to the end knowing that I won't answer it.

[evrfighter]

and in the end your arguments been reduced to "wow"

I think enough has been said to let the reader's decide for themselves whether or not to take soda seriously. I'll just leave it at that

[f789790]

No because we have not been given splitscreen. I will sacrifice 60fps to let my friend play with me.

[DelbertGrady]

Sarcasm my friend, sarcasm. You need to learn to read between the lines. Not everything I write in my comments is dead serious, you know ;)

Look at it:

"I've been a hardcore racist for years and let me tell you, this is not racist. If Chris was wearing shoe polish on his face and white gloves while shooting the natives there would be something to discuss."

No racist would openly admit that they are racist lol! For years, like it's something you convert to. And 'hardcore' at that (all you other racists are posers!). I don't get how you could take that comment seriously. Sorry if I offended you in some way but that's just how I joke.

And the shoe polish and gloves was referring to how racist humour is still accepted in many parts of Asia, hence where the game comes from.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

It originated in the US but is long gone since the 30's or something (if you don't count Ted Dansons misstep in 93).

If you check the report section you will see why I didn't like this article. It has nothing at all to do with skin color. It's that they are using a headline that they can't back up with any facts that makes it crap.

"Lame: (15 hours ago)
Review avg. crown? Nope.
Sales crown? Not even close.
Online activity crown? Eh...

Flamebait crown? Definately!"

[JaPo]

Let me just clarify that there is no way KZ2 will take the crown COD4 once had.

Sales: No.
Ratings: No (marginally)
Players: Hell no.

There is no point in you 'elitist' gamers discrediting another superb title to elevate the PS3 flag-bearer, KZ2. Say it's 'for n00bs' and 'arcadey' all you want, but millions of people played it for days on end simply because it's FUN. Even after all the misguided hype, Resistance 2 is seldom discussed on the internet these days because it had no legs, and isn't particularly good. KZ2 on the other hand is a quality title, and the MP is good, but not as fun or as accessible as COD4. Simple. People disparage Haddock as 'arcade' (whatever that means) and 'simple', when it's clear a hell of a lot of work went into polishing that engine into the superb online shooter it became. Its depth is subtle but when the game is so ingrained in your mind you start playing by instinct, you know it's deep. You guys can sing its praises until your vocal chords shatter, but there's absolutely no chance KZ2 it will eclipse COD4.

Still, there's room for another title. I don't enjoy KZ2 as much as I did COD4 (I don't find myself craving it), but it's still a top-notch shooter. No-one can deny that, really. Graphics are superb, stats are superb, clan support is superb, level system is far superior to anything I've seen. I'm yet to really dig my claws in but I can't wait.

In terms of singeplayer, it's actually fairly close. I completed KZ2 in under 6 hours, which is a little ridiculous actually. The ride was immersive but now I'm racing through trying to get no deaths on each section. These points are actually entirely valid. Read my entire comment before you click disagree in light of my KZ-denigrating comments.

[DelbertGrady]

+ Bubbles for telling it like it is. There's always room for games as good as COD 4 and Killzone 2. Personally I think I'd like KZ 2's sp campaign better because I can't stand the scripted enemies in COD 4 (and 2,3 & 5). But this talk about stealing crowns is downright bizarre.

Like you said, no one talks about Resistance 2 anymore. And fanboys said it was supposed to steal Halo 3's crown (yeah, I mentioned it!). I say give KZ 2 3-4 months then we'll see how it's doing, if it's taking any crowns.

[pixelsword]

Actually, I didn't take your comment seriously.

Like I said in my previous comment (see above or below)

"Dude, I apologize for having this drag out to these dimensions, I was only talking to you, but I guess people who see the need to want to ring the "anti-political correctness" bell like a bunch of deranged Quasimotos will want to milk this.

I was just making a jab at you (because of your own comment), and these 'pointing out racism is racist' people want to take it too far, as usual."

If I didn't think you were kidding, I wouldn't have have called me commenting on your comment a "jab" (as a "jab" is a term for a friendly poke a someone in my part of the planet), and I certainly wouldn't have apologized for it;

Er, um; those were the lines you were supposed to read between yourself(heh, heh, heh)... *smiles gingerly*

My only crime in this was talking back to a bunch of wannabe armchair republicans who can't take a joke themselves when it's turned around... as my comment was a jab, these people took it as a "massive offense against non-PCness" and decided to want to be jerks about it...except I can splice a comment with the best of them; it should have ended when I apologized to you, but some people wanted to take it further, so I took it further... I had a free hour or two when I was waiting for a download, so I said "what the heck, why not?" If someone's going to call my comments "retarded" or whatnot, then I want them to defend their positions, that's all; from that point it ended being a jab and was merely a verbal exercise from that point... notice when evrfighter said in his next to last post "I won't get into a debate I really don't care at all about" is when I ended mine posting... that, and his comment was utter garbage not worth commenting on.

Next time, maybe I'll put smiley faces next to my comments when I'm kidding around myself... as I also have a sense of whimsy (albeit a dry one).

:)

[THE TRUTH]

I respect your opinion but it really annoys me that your entire opinion is based off SALES, PLAYERS AND RATINGS..... Seriously how does any of that effect which game is more entertaining to you? I mean sales alone isn't even an fair point given that CoD4 is multiplatform, the same can said about players........ that only give you point left to argue which is ratings. I don't want to sound like an A-hole but you do realize that all ratings are are other peoples opinion of a game(which can easliy be swayed under certain situations)

A more convincing arguement would be made if you just used your our personal experience with both games to prove your point. Whichever game you perfer is fine by me because both games are great but I just find it so hard to understand why anyone would use Ratings, Sales, or Players to prove which game they prefer.

I personally perfer Killzone2 (read my above statement as to why) but CoD4 is also a great game better suited for other gamers.

Please lets not let things like sales, ratings or players sway our opinions into which games are better. It kind of makes all gamers look ignorant, niche games like flower, flow, ect ect are great games that don't have anywhere near the sales players or ratings lets not degrade them on those facts alone.

[JaPo]

Did you read my comment?

Anyway, we're talking about crowns, which implies the most played game, as opposed to the one which is... I don't even know where you could find 'evidence' that KZ2 is better or being enthroned - it's down to individual preference in the end.

I stated my opinions, and I always see them far more useful than data and reviews. However, this particular discussion is geared specifically around data, so I chose to include it. I'm one of the most rational and least biased gamers on the site so don't tar me with the brush of being a mindless regurgitator. It ain't gonna fly.

[Tarasque]

Seriously that has to be the dumbest comment i have seen yet today on here. You forgot about the main thing to keep playing each game is fun and Killzone 2 does not have that same fun factor as COD. It took me less then 10 hours to get to general and have most of the perks, it really isn't fun to play anymore bored with it already. And i have yet to play a game that hasn't been a lag fest induced framerate problem.

[THE TRUTH]

Regardless of how YOU feel to define yourself, I made my point about how you decided which game should retain "the crown". I, in no way defined you as a member of this site, nor will I. But I will let you in on my history with this site so you know exactly who you are converstating with. I have been on this site from its very humble beggings, since before it was N4G.com. Trust me I'm not in anyway new here, I just prefer to take a more hands off approach nowadays friend. Now that we offically know eachother maybe we can continue this discussion without getting anyone's feelings hurt in such a way as we have to tell eachother who we are and are not.

I started my reply to your post by saying I respect your opinion, but I am really lost as to your standards. Please explain why sales, ratings and players would in any way effect your overall enjoyment of either game? If CoD4 had a rating of 5 out of 10 would it be any less fun?

I persoanlly don't know the overall rating, players or sales of either game (I don't really care to know either) but I do know both games represent the best FPS's out on the market today. I feel the overall depth of Killzone2, with the making of squads, job class system and depth in each level design coupled with the ever changing warzone atmosphere give Killzone 2 the added edge FOR ME. There's really not a FPS out that can match the level of entertainment (visually, depth, fun factor, variety ect) I enjoy while playing this game and that has NOTHING to with how many units its sold, players online or some semi-proffesionals opinion/rating.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I'm taking away bubbles on anyone who rags about this being a HHG article. That ish is OLD!!

Seriously, are some you guys like a bunch of racists in backwoods Montana or something? j/k You all can't live in Montana. : )

Serious for real...it was very well written and thought out, enough to convince a friend who only ever plays COD and Rock Band to try out. Whether KZ2 > COD or not...a lot of players who play COD exclusively have another option. COD has some things over KZ, but not much that it retains any crown.

Play both.

[Head Shot King]

If HipHopGamershow.com post some thing like

Microsoft will out shine Sony at E3, Sony Fanboys will say that he sucks and every one should report trash the comes from that website.

If hiphopgamer post Sony King of all consoles, then SONY fanboys look at him like he is god.

[JaPo]

You're not making any sense, Truth.

Why are you assuming that I let data and ratings affect my enjoyment of a game when I'm simply explaining why less people will play KZ2 than COD4 and discussing what I appreciate in both games.

Read the comment again, if you like. Perhaps you're just taking objection to the fact I'm not rimjawing KZ2, but I'm not doing any of the bandwagon BS you accuse me of. I couldn't give a privy pot which game has higher ratings, and I didn't once imply that I did. I'm just saying there's no way of quantifying (as of yet) the claim that KZ2 has dethroned COD4 as most popular FPS.

It's only 3rd Grade reading comprehension :S.

[THE TRUTH]

Look friend I have don't know what "rimjawing" is, and it is obvious that I have more reading comprehension than a 3rd grader. what I don't understand is how a conversion between two disagreeing gamers has resluted in an insult laced reply? This is the reason why I choose to keep a hands off approach to this site and it looks like you have really made my decision final. A majority of the time on this site, there is no friendly exchange because a "gamer" such as yourself feels insulted the minute his "unbiased opinion" is challenged in anyway. Instead of trying to make your points more valid you let your fustration cause you to throw out dumb comments such as "rimjawing", which in turn destroys any viable and real discussion we were once having. So I congradulate you friend for for your achievement of understanding the art of adult conversion/discussion.

Apart from that I do agree both games are great and both games deserve the credit for what they bring to the FPS genre and to videogames as a whole.

[JaPo]

I haven't insulted anyone, become frustrated, or even tried to denigrate you. Yet.

You haven't once put forward a legitimate argument, simply taken a thinly-veiled stab at my beliefs by questioning my post. First of all you didn't even read my ideas properly so clearly haven't a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing your case. I conveyed my thoughts respectably, honestly, and without bias. Any remotely intelligent person would agree. A group which, incidentally, you're expelled from by assuming I have a blind allegiance to a game/company because I have an opinion different to yours ("unbiased" "gamer").

I'm not sure whether you're a silly fanboy or a "gamer" but you really need to learn to spell. If you want to pose a valid argument, at least. Maybe you don't though?

That's my last bubble so if you see it *absolutely* necessary, feel free to send me a PM, buddy.

[panasonic23]

Reviews no
Sales no
Online activity? Eh.... drum roll please hell no it didn't take Call duty 4 Crown.

[thor]

Reviews no.... BUT a 10 nowadays is worth more than a 10 would have been worth when CoD4 released. Is CoD4 better than Wolfenstein 3D - objectively, yes it is. As in, there is really no question which game is better. Of course, you might say that Wolfenstein 3D was better for its time, and was more innovative, but CoD4 is the better game. If they released CoD4 again with added features, tweaked multiplayer and better graphics, it WOULD be better, BUT its reviews would be lower than CoD4. Case in point - MGS2:Substance has a LOWER average score than MGS2:Sons of Liberty, yet it's got exactly what SoL had AND MORE. So it is BETTER. If you wanted one or the other, Substance has VR missions and other stuff as well as exactly the same stuff as SoL so it's the better game. But the reviews were basing it on different standards. Killzone 2's reviews were based on the standards of CoD4... the bar has been raised since 2007.

Sales... it's too early to say. In any case, CoD4 is a multiplatform game so is bound to sell more. Will KZ2 on PS3 sell more than CoD4 did on PS3... we don't yet know. Online activity is a similar thing. Let's see, long-term, if more people end up playing KZ2 or CoD4. I know that more players AT THE MOMENT will be playing KZ2 because it just came out.

Besides, this is some guy's opinion - and HE thinks that KZ2 is the better game, hence the title. If you don't, that's your opinion, but there is at least one person who disagrees with you.

[Major_Tom]

Killzone 9.1

COD4 9.4

Difference 0.3

N4G really needs to start banning people.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

Graphics : yes, it destroys COD 4
Realism : yes, it destroys COD 4
Fun factor : easy yes
Badge / ranking system : yes

Final easy answer : yes, KZ 2 is the new king

I know it's sad for you, since you can't play anything new on crapbox this day. ;( Maybe ask your mother to buy you a PS3 for next christmas ?

[mrdxpr2]

U sr are bored cause u havent played Killzone 2 cause u know nothing about the game u just asume with nothing wow just quit and go play 360 watever game there is cough none cough .... Now killzone 2 is the best game ever i played COD 4 and liked it but i love killzone 2

[Marcelles25]

IT DOES NOT BEAT COD4 IN RANKING SO 2/3 STILL GOOD

[theKiller]

u r really pain in the @ss!! just like ur name character(Pain).

COD4 was the king of its times but not any more! except that, get over it! i know it hurts that this new king is a ps3 exclusive but thats the bitter reality for u!

reviews gave MGS3 less than MGS4 but i think MGS3 was much better and longer and better boss fights, and it did sell less also but did that change the fact that it was better with better story and better boss fights??? the answer is NO!!!!!

halo 3 probably sold more than COD4 on 360 but does that make it a better game?? i think not!!!

sales and review only reflects the hype the game has in many cases!

quality is not determined by sales or reviews, but sales and reviews usually shows the following

1: the hype the game have
2: the franchise popularity
3: the quality of the game

so its not always reflects the quality of the game, and only c@ckroaches brains will think other wise!

[Nelson M]

Good Article
Cant wait for the Hiphop Gamer show tommorow night
And Yes Killzone steals CoD4's crown
But thats not a bad thing

[riderofpl4gues]

im not trying to be an ass. i just stated my oppnion on why i think as of right now, killzone 2 takes the crown from call of duty4. Of course there is no sales data, or percentage played..it's only been out a week!

[Nelson M]

If fact if you Have Played both of the Games
Then your opinion is credible
Its the people who have not played both games
That think the article aint newsworthy
Because they are sick of all the Killzone love going around

[Kyur4ThePain]

Then do so in the forums or as a post in a discussion.
Don't go and pretend that your opinion is worth an article.

[Venomish]

I played both games my opinion is :
sold cod4 purchased cod w@w
lv 55 1st prestige in cod w@w and still playing
sold killzone right after I finished it

[RememberThe357]

Dude stop telling people to start a new website. This site doesn't only do news, we all know that. So stop being an ass.

[Kyur4ThePain]

Please try to converse without name calling.

[Sez]

I don't know about that. But I will me trading in my copy of KZ2 for RE5 on Friday.

[SprSynJn]

I don't see why people are getting upset about the question. It's a perfectly legitimate question asking your opinion. My opinion is it does by far take the crown. Some people might disagree, but it's only a question of how far the genre is advancing if you look carefully at it. Since Call of Duty is know to be one of the highest in the genre, which I don't disagree with, attempting to top it would only be standard for most other companies. Guerilla Games has so far, in my opinion, taken the lead that most companies are now going to have to try and take back.

[LastDance]

yea man!...Having an opinion means you cant be a journalist. Geez...do you really think the game journalism world is build upon opinion!...sheeeeeeeeesh, do some research.

[Tarasque]

Yeah it is a great thing i rented Killzone 2 cause i would have wasted 60 bucks.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

Don't care for someone's opinion or a site...don't read it.

If you really care about the quality of N4G, then go to another site.

If you want to prioritize your opinion over someone else's, get a lobotomy.

Ooops! You already have one?

Stop being a jerk.

[Zeus Lee]

http://n4g.com/gaming/News-...

Yep,we're going to approve this article as well.

[TheColbertinator]

Wow truly the hypocrisy of the writers for HHG has come to light.

[denied]

thor, it's true people gota stop comparing game that are out months and year before another game, specially if the game are different gender. COD is USA army vs the terrorist and KZ2 is human vs mutated human from different world. Now if you gona compare game use the examples of GTA,every new game rock star make is different and better. So please do not compare shooters from different story to another,cuz is like saying is MARIO the same as MGS

[Sibs]

Why can't there be multiple crowns?

[cyclindk]

Agreed, CoD 4 (as I think CoD 5 is both technically and gamplay-wise inferior to its predecessor despite having been developed using the same engine) is a quick, twitch shooter that plays easily enough without consideration for more advanced tactics.

Killzone 2 is bigger, more strategic and an overall more developed shooter.

It depends on what mood you're in, all I know is there's room for both KZ2 and CoD4:MW2 in my heart and in my PS3 come November.

[DelbertGrady]

There can be only one. It's the code of the Highlander and it applies to video games also.

[DirtyLary]

That's an easy no of an answer.

Every map plays the same in KZ2. Even with the objectives. Just an arcade die-spawn nade spam spawn-camp.

COD has so much more to offer in game play modes, and variety.

KZ2 will be buried when the next COD hits.

[TheColbertinator]

/truth

[Power_Of_Flops_]

I smell jealousy from an angry xbot.

I have both games and KZ 2 $hits on COD4 on every front : gameplay is better (realistic slower movements, with slight inertia, funnier gameplay with the badge system, less easy headshots, best graphics, best lighting).

So yeah, easy answer, KZ 2 wins hands down.

Now cry more.

[silverchode]

i like both kz2 and cod4 equally.

[Major_Tom]

Took a quick browse of your history and you've repeatedly bashed Killzone 2. That's fine that's your opinion, however alot of people don't agree with you, myself being one of them.

Killzone 2 is downright amazing, it's chaos a real-time warzone. That's what war is, atleast my perception of what it would be.

[Nelson M]

Strike's Again

What a Silly Little BoT

[denied]

let HHG do what they wana do, We all got the rights to say or post what we want and think is news worthy. We all got our own opinions on things, does that make us all wrong on what we think? Here is a point im gona make to proof this, I think the color GREEN is the best color over RED. Now is my opinion wrong or right?

Why did i get a((Disagree))? Just cuz i said my opinion? Are you telling me we don't have the right to say how we feel or believe?

That is nice to know that Hitler is back in town

[ThatOneGuyThere]

get it?

[RememberThe357]

It doesn't have to be news...
Editorials, Reviews, Screenshots, Videos, Previews, Rumors, and even Opinion Pieces are all acceptable. Read the freakin guidelines.

"Posting Articles
You can also post articles to N4G. Articles posted to N4G should be of interest to the gaming community and be professional and well written. Opinion pieces are also OK as long as they are written by well established websites or people who work in the game industry."

http://www.n4g.com/Info/Pos...

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

BUBBLES FOR THE BOTH OF YOU!!!

What I hate most about this site is the double standard on what is journalism and blatant fanboyism.

That is what killing N4G.

We are all informed by opinions as much as facts, people. How dense can you be not to understand that - such is the realm for reviews, blogs and the like. Very, very few articles are purely the facts, and they shouldn't be.

[Crimsonite]

Lame, hiphopgamer isn't anyone credible.Only gets hits through fueling fanboy wars.

[Spike47]

IMO they have both set a high benchmark for other FPS.

[PotNoodle]

I racked up a total of 26 hours of online game time within the first 3 days of getting the game, plus the 6 - 7 hours i racked up offline. It took me months to get that much on CoD4.

So in my personal opinion, yes. But will it be as popular as CoD4 even if we just count the PS3 version? Nope - unfortunatly not, even if everyone liked the controls (I love them) it wouldn't do it.

[DirtyLary]

I own both systems and both games. So no I go both ways :) gaming. Hardly a fanboi. Just a gaming fan.

I enjoy them all But KZ2 is so damn over hyped. It's next gen graphics with 1998 game play.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

It's not at all a spawn fest, the spawn nade will be patched soon so as you can not put it in critical zones or on an enemy spawn zone, that's the only think they should patch actually.

I'm having the blast with KZ2, while I played COD 4 only a short time and stopped because it was a boring headshot fest. It's a nice twitch arcade shooter, but the real thing is KZ2 for the men, with realistic movement, speed and aiming.

Many tactical decisions, multi combinations with 2 level badges, it $hits on COD4 in gameplay too. :)

COD 4 is like : spawn, headshot, spawn, headshot.

Talk about outdated gameplay...

That's my opinion at least, and the opinion of the majority apparently.

Edit : Calling KZ2 arcade is really funny, considering you compare it to COD4 when people move at light speed with no inertia whatsoever. Xbots are so desperate these days :)

[Nelson M]

Your a FPS Noob
Thats why you prefer COD4
CoD4 is Great but it makes Noobs like yourself Look and Feel Good
KillZone 2 takes a lot more Skill
And it seperates the Men from the Boys(Noobs like yourself)
Thats why you aint up to much in Killzone 2
Cause your a NooB
And a BoT

[Ethereal21]

Agreed!

[Rhezin]

wtf are you talking about, moron, that just does NOT make sense.

[Power_Of_Flops_]

Bah, another xbot pretending having both games.

I have both games on PS3, KZ 2 is easily superior in every aspect. On the technical side only a blind fanboy can't see the difference.

Still, if you like headshots and faster than light arcade shooters, COD 4 is nice too.

[Nelson M]

Its Rhezin
A Converted BoT
Well welcome to the Darkside
But your Still a Hillbillie BoT

[OGharryjoysticks]

Killzone 2 is the best shooter. But try telling that to the millions of people who have spent hundreds and Hundreds of dollars on a different system and you're not going to get many people who agree. At least not on the internet anyway because if you look around the internet the majority of video game websites are pretty full with pro 360 comments. This site does seem unusually high with Sony supporters and I'll be honest that's one of the reasons I'm here. No point in trying to talk to the group at other sites where it's just the blind leading the blind.

[Incognegro]

How is it a hypocrisy if it was done by two different editors? Not 1 person will share the same opinion and they're both entitled to it.

[cantfindaname08]

What's good homie..You know you can not comment on this article. You can't even play online..lol. I take that back, you can comment on this article because everybody is entitled to their opinions..

[OOG]

Simple answer.... No

Because Call of Duty doesnt have a crown to take.... depending on peoples tastes... they will like all sorts of FPS games.....

Halo, CoD, Rainbow, Killzone... they all bring something to the table and it comes down to personal preference...

On a sales basis.... Halo is king... since it sells 8 + mill on 1 console... which is ridiculous..... CoD... its on 3 platforms and love by millions as well... and bridges the gap between PS3, PC and 360...

Rainbow is more for the tactical gamer that can handle a slowed down 1 shot your dead style of game...

Killzone is another fun FPS to play... borrows a little from a lot of games and also bring some of its own flavour... it will prob not be as popular as some franchises... but that doesnt mean its not a really good game...

Anyway... what im trying to say is for FPS games..... its a lot about preference... no crowns involved.

[Major_Tom]

If you have a PS3, buy Killzone 2.

If you bought it and didn't like it, at least you tried it.

If you have an Xbox 360 and not a PS3. Do yourself a favor, buy a PS3 for Killzone 2, you will not be disappointed.

Alot of the Xbox Fanboys are knocking it before they have even tried it. Trust us when we say this game is amazing and if you don't like the aiming please don't be a cry baby, be cause there's over eighty thousand individuals who can say otherwise on the leader boards.

[Tarasque]

Well IMO Killzone 2 would be a waste of money 60 bucks, much less buy a PS3 for it and the game.

[kewlkat007]

All thanks to the Original version and the lack or Sony marketing.

But COD 4 is a game that has a much stronger legs and the franchise is more well known. Of course thanks to the fact that, more people get to enjoy the game, being a multiplatform title.

I doubt we will see KZ 6, 7, 8 and I'll bet you we see another COD title.
Compare this game as a whole with other blockbuster exclusive shooters, then we can get a feel for how strong it's legs are..

[heyheyhey]

why won't we see a KZ6?

with KZ2 making up for the shortcomings of the original and sales reportedly being very strong... there's no reason why Sony won't perpetuate the series to compete with Halo and COD

i personally prefer the look and feel of KZ to COD (i love the weight) so i think KZ2 has overtaken COD and will continue to excel with KZ3, 4, 5, 6 and further

[RedVsBlue]

Opinion Pieces = belongs in the blog section. If this guys opinion can be posted as news then anyones opinion should be allowed to be posted as news

[Kyur4ThePain]

Thank you!
Agreed 100%.

[Sevir04]

Because thats all you guys are spewing. 99 percent of the fud and articles posted on N4G are all opinions pieces, If it doesn't favor your opinion then you behave like this. pelase be fair and stop with teh double standard hipocracy play... you look like a freakin douche behind the protection of the internet...

Everyone is entitled to there opinions and they will continue to voice it. This is a social networking WEB FORUM under the Moniker NEWs for gamners where informative opinions and facts are posted daily if you haven't notice by now, the sight has been built on this philosophy since it launched back in 2005 as Xbox360today/PS3today.com if you don't like the opinion articles... voice it and move the f*ck on... or simply skip right over it and look at something else in YOUR OPINION YOU believe is News worthy. :)

[Nike]

Opinions have been and are totally worthy of being posted on N4G (that's what the whole category for Article is for).

As for what forms the basis of an opinion, it's usually a factual basis and an ability to deduce observations, even relevant predictions and trends from those facts. The journalist may have extensive experience with the game, and well-versed with the FPS genre. HHG hasn't always followed this routine, but you can't judge a site's rep based on a few articles. Alternatively, you say an article is bad because you feel the site is bad.

If the writer for this story is saying CoD4's multi-player has been bested by Killzone 2's and he has extensive experience with both, then it constitutes a relevant opinion. If he words it in too a discomforting manner for you, that's your problem.

[ThatOneGuyThere]

anyone reporting it always includes their opinions, be it through body language, facial expressions, or actual words. Opinions are completely pointless on a NEWS site. Opinions BELONG to the comments section.

[DirtyLary]

but you really need to s t f u with these xbot fanboi insult attempts.

Go add me on ps3 and 360 under "dirtylary" and eat your pathetic words.

[Nelson M]

You for sure Smoke the Big Un

[dustgavin]

The only reason we would add you, is to listen to you cry online as you get owned.

[ELite_Ghost]

hell yea feck cod, for now... :)

[maverick1191]

its hard i dont play cod4 anymore as all noobs play it but kz2 owns it on graphics and gameplay online wise i think it just edges it the only thing i want kz2 to have is more ranks its to short but id say kz2 to be the winner but kz2 will get better as GG respond to everything and are quick at doing it at supporting the game GG are the best ive seen IW are the worst ive seen

[TheColbertinator]

Of course Killzone 2 is overhyped.All games are overhyped.Fallout 3,GTA4,Halo 3,Cod4,Fable 2,MGS4 and several others had issues or lack of innovation in one way or another.None deserved their 10s but were more like 9-9.5/10 games.Just because a game is overhyped like Halo 3 or GTA4 or Killzone 2,does not mean its bad.On the contrary they are all great games just not perfect as claimed by fanboys.

[Major_Tom]

Funny that you mentioned MGS4. The only game this generation that met and went beyond my expectations.

[Nelson M]

Strike's Again

[Major_Tom]

What is with the fanboys in this article with the phantom disagree. It's an opinion.

Heh, that's sad. Most of the people who are fanboys can't even argue their way out of a garbage bag, let alone speak or write English fluent enough, I need a Rosetta Stone to understand some of the jibberish on here.

Easier to press disagree than explain yourself eh?

[likedamaster]

"Funny that you mentioned MGS4. The only game this generation that met and went beyond my expectations."

Sorry, but a lot here disagree even about MGS4. The game is not for everyone, and that's putting it nicely. Graphics were mindblowing... only between acts when he smoking the cigarette while it's downloading data.

Fool me once(MGS4) shame on you. Fool me twice(Killzone 2) shame on me.

[Major_Tom]

You're an Xbox 360 fanboy, I'm sure people just dismiss your opinion right away anyway.

[Mutley416]

Dont argue with COD people...They love that game(s)...and will defend it to the death...

Myself I like KZ2 better...just because I needed a change-

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

its a game little girl... just relax, noones going to come over and take it. i perfer cod over killzone any day. yeah mabye kz2 is better, but only on ps3 cause the IW devs abandoned the system. Besides, whats that like 2 good games for the ps3 now? And the other one certinly isnt resistance 2. HOT GARBAGE. i mean wahawk.

[Major_Tom]

You haven't even played Killzone 2. Makes your opinion absolutely invalid.

How does that make sense, he hasn't played Killzone 2 yet he says he prefers COD4 to the latter, in which way does that get disagrees? At least one of you explain yourselves.

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

deathcamp.

i play warhwk and killzone every day.

[dustgavin]

Zeeb is yet another idiot who claims they are neutral but bashes the Ps3.

B-b-b-but I own both systems. I am teh neutral party!

[PtRoLLFacE]

omg all the flaming articles comes from that site, is so lame trying to get hits by creating a war

[Skillet_135]

HHG wasn't writing an article to start a flame war. If that had been his intention he would have done a Halo 3 comparison or some other 360 exclusive. COD is cross platform, that means it IS on the PS3. This is just his opinion saying he finally found a game that will take him away from COD4. So why dont you just grow a pair and except that there actually can be a great FPS on the PS3, not necessarily better than Halo 3 (although in my opinion it is better), but just a great FPS.

[riderofpl4gues]

read who wrote it

[PtRoLLFacE]

who that fuk u telling to grow up idiot, first i didn't say HHG, i said that website, am referring to the entire website not just one person, so read the comments before u start writing crap, u just have to read the tittles of the articles and u automatically know is a flaming article lol and there no doubt ur a fanboy and a very stupid one lol, i didn't mention halo, CoD4 or the xbox 360 in my comment and u bring them out for no reason, it looks like u play killzone 2, so u should add me, my psn ID is "snipershot" so i can teach u some manners

[Skillet_135]

No definitally not a fanaboy... Come get some.

[Major_Tom]

Killzone 2 is definitely harder to play than COD4. It's not the for light hearted, if you don't check your six constantly you will get owned.

[Zizo_ha]

My personal opinion i'd give KZ2 the graphics and the gameplay i'd give COD the story an the MP mode .. KZ needs to work on the story i beated the game and the story is really weak and stupid totally am dissapointed its like playing without story which is really bad i enjoyed COD4 and COD5 cuz they had a gr8 story but with KZ it was a miserbale story though the game is gr8 .

[otherZinc]

COD 4 has no crown for Killzone 2 to take. However, Halo 3 does, and that more people play Halo 3 daily than a most hyped game for 5 years sold in its first weekend (that's you Killzone 2), keep swinging, you may hit something soon.

Halo 3 is the Star developers are shooting for.

[otherZinc]

how people debate over 2nd place. COD 4 has a 2nd place crown, I didnt know they gave crowns for second place.

Halo 3 is the champ, by all consumer standings, period. So, fight the good fight for 2nd place.

[jBat17]

the only reason failo 3 sold more than cod4 is because of it being released earlier. and of course, HYPE.

if cod4 was released earlier than gaylo, everyone would release how fugly gaylo is and how much better cod4 is.

the only reason kids still play failo is because their moms can only buy them one game a year. for people who can afford their own games, they switched to COD4 the day it was released.

[electricgta]

i love cod4 and i dont think it beats kz2 theres so many fking noobs on kz2 now.. its getting kinda boring now that i've ranked up to maximum i wish it had a prestige mode like cod 4 or something similar the badges wont keep me satisfied tbh, i love killzone 2 but i will even more in a month or two when the noobs have "died down" lol

[Kyur4ThePain]

but when the "noobs" leave you'll love it again?
I don't follow your logic.

[taco_tom237]

but i like cod better kz2>halo

[nwarelias]

you can finally change the controls cod style not that i complained before but why not get excited. You click R3 to melee L1 to aim and R2 to shoot. thats how i set mines

[electricgta]

kyur there just running around with no sence with a rocket launcher not throwing out spawns or doing the objective, nothing and its hard to do it by yourslf if theres 16 on the other team e.g search and destroy what i getting at is that when i 1st bought killzone 2 people were doing the objective and it wasnt mayhem spawn killing

[Kyur4ThePain]

I'm one of the noobs, probably. Just finished the SP and have played MP twicw only so far.

[BMS84]

The multiplayer is amazing and very addictive;), i really like the futuristicatmosphere combined with gorgeous visuals, so IMO Killzone 2 is better.

But i was never a big fan of the COD series , the games are very good offcourse, i also didn't like QUAKE years ago and other people were in love with that game..

[BrownPowerzz]

I don't think so, price must come down first and they need more exclusives. CoD:MW2 is coming out anyways.

[Gamer_Z]

kz2 is good but not the best

[DJ]

We finally have our COD4 Killer! =D

[DNAgent]

Oh wait...Nvm, I just saw that it's another stupid article by hiphopgamershow.

[Mcrmarcher]

For me Killzone 2 was much better that any Cod game i've played, didn't like Cod4 at all, I actually like Cod:WAW more (i'm more interested in that time period.) Killzone is one of the best games i've ever played and i'm loving the MP. Just my opinion though.

[123456789]

AGREE if you think killzone2 has taken COD4,s crown
DISAGREE if you think COD$ is still king

[farhad2k8]

Definitely yes, COD4 had a slow start and so is KZ2.
Just wait until the Xbots have a curiosity on whether or not they should get a PS3 for this game lol
And watch the players rush in, and admit to getting Killzowned ;)

[OOG]

lol when did CoD 4 start off slow??? that game had its foot on the gas pedal the whole time

[villevalorox]

to be honest I hate 3 of the maps. I hate em. its nothign but spawn camping in them. I want dlc wit like 5-10 new damn maps. an more guns.

[DMason]

How is this news? This site is slowly going down the crapper if blogs like this can make headlines.

I agree completely with an above poster: why is everything that is Pro Sony worth headlining? All I ever see on this site is slanderous articles against Microsoft. I thought this was a news site. They should just call it SB4G- Sony Blogs 4 Gamers.

Ridiculous.

[FPShooter]

CoD4 is a great game but in my opinion KILLZONE 2 is better. But why are xbox fans downing KILLZONE 2 When they havnt even played it. childish.

[hippo24]

Why because this site is a joke, and is filled to the brim with asshats who love to spout bile on either side.

In reality KZ2 is a great game, COD4 is a great game, neither is overly dominate of the other, so I dont think we can hold an arbitrary crown stealing contest.

[divideby0]

KZ MP totally and completely wipes up COD MP...for me not a question about it and I have played all CODs on the 360...
COD set the bar and KZ just pushed the bar to another level.

[KingDragunov]

KZ2 is better by far.

[James Vanderbeek]

Team work...

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Hold on, let me log in to my other secret accounts to disagree w/ you some more.

[Lord Vader]

oh poor HHG & the fanboys hits....

bash 360 one day & bash ps3 the next...

rinse & repeat...

lolz

[Aft3rKill]

if kz2 had cod4 controls then yes. These controls are too annoying. so called realism is just annoying and gives me motion sickness

[James Vanderbeek]

dude if you get motion sickness from playing killzone 2 you must be a noob... the patch 1.2 they just released makes the controls almost like cod4 now.. alt 2 setting and zoom hold off and you pretty much have cod4 controls..

[Silent]

Major_Tom

I totally agree with ya Killzone onine is hard as heck. KZ2 weapons are real as they come, no joke. Kick back vibrations and all are insane and hard to hold accuracy. But one thing for sure is that KZ2 made me a better player in CoD4, lol. CoD4 guns feels fake like its floating, almost like Iphone/Ipod games.I thought CoD4 is the best thing ever happen to me, but yes I say CoD4 has met its match. Yes I still play CoD4 its great game. All need to try Killzone 2 before spilling on me.

[Batzi]

Not even close to COD4, unfortunately.

[donnie-2105]

if only sony could sort out in game chat out my enjoyment of online K2 would be much greater.the bluetooth headsets ive tried are hissing junk and silent half the time in game.personally clear chat adds a lot to games for me and is the only advantage xbox live has over psn.even though the 360s generic headsets look pants the trans alantic audio is almost up to telephone standards.

[Thoreau]

no, but i am still playing killzone 2

[N4Garbage]

It may for the people that play KZ2.

But CoD has more players and followers.

And what King loses his crown to a King with less soldiers

[hippo24]

Yet again another article proving that N4G is not a site for gaming news, but an elaborate collection of personal blogs.

I really must stop visiting this site because it is entirely comprised of fanboys. I mean look at the temp on things like Developers going under, and then look at the articles stating console X is better then console y.

http://www.n4g.com/dev/
http://www.n4g.com/industry...

vs

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/
http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/

people on this site only care about their beloved platform, and dont give a SHlT about the actual games or the developers behind them.

[Sheikh Yerbouti]

I hope others follow your lead...! Where will you go? Give other journalistic "purists" some insight.

[need_For_speed_69]

Ok, Granted there was a whole bunch of hype for this game and if you own a 360 and not a ps3 and have never played Killzone 2 u cannot say how pathetic it is when u haven't even played it. Now that my defense for this game is over lets start with the good stuff.
This game sucked! I can't believe Porcelein God and his comments, COD 4 is a kiddie first person shooter? are you f$%king serious? Killzone is the biggest "I WANNA BE HALO!" game out there. The sights for the guns suck, the ability to shoot people is so messed up it doesnt even matter if u aim or not! I can put an entire clip into somebody and just because they are a super soldier they can take 30 bullets?! Oh yeah that is realistic?!?! The cool part related with weapons is that they actually have different weights. This is more relistic then COD 4 however, the whole 25 bullets to drop a guy combined without the simple ability to just run toward somebody without aiming and kill them is like yelling " I HAVE NO SKILL AND AIMING DOESNT MATTER!!!! I AM SOO GOOD AT THIS RUNNING TOWARDS SOMEBODY AND SHOOTING AIMLESSLY TO KILL THEM!!!!" The grenade physics are the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. U can't throw a grenade while walking around a corner? are u serious? It bounces once even though it is round? The mission objectives are cool, but you can run through an entire group of people if they dont have shot guns and get to the assasination target and just throw a grenade by him and call it a day? I was super disappointed in this game. The online clans and divide talk is very cool and well used but I just couldnt get past the fact that u need 25 bullets to kill a guy and aiming doesn't matter. I would rather play a game any time that requires skill to aim and doesn't require 30 bullets to drop a guy.

[mario888]

There are two types of gamers, those that require auto aim and those that do not. Back in the PS2 and xbox days that was the first thing they turned off in Clan matches. COD4 is very popular because anyone can just jump on an become an instant killing machine. There are no online feature that allows you to turn Auto Aim off. That is the secret behind Call of Duty's success. It's Noob Friendly.

Problem is that so many people are so used to auto aim is that when they go to a game like Socom of KZ2 they notice that they Suck but assume it must be a problem with the game It takes more skill to to shoot someone without auto aim and some people just can't adjust.

I have COD4 and COD WaW but I have never taken the game seriously. The game just does not require much skill and like I stated before you can't turn off the Auto Aim.

Well Guess what? You can't turn on AUTO AIM in Killzone 2. Either adjust or go back and play Halo3 or COD and stop complaining.

[04soldier]

The king with the more soldiers loses to the king with the with superior fighting skills. You've seen '300' right....? Killzone 2 is the King Leonidas of the FPS's. Aoooh---Uhhhh!!!!!

[N4Garbage]

Yeah he also died.

[hippo24]

Name one drastic, dynamic, or overly dominate thing that KZ does that COD doesn't.

The games are so similar in game style that neither can really claim dominance. They're both great games so deal with it.

The bias on this site is enraging.

[STONEY4]

In multiplayer gametypes can switch on the fly, if you've played it, you'll know what I mean. COD4 doesn't have that.

But I think both games are good, if I'm bored and I need a twitchy game to play, I'll occasionally play COD4 or Unreal Tournament 2004. I remembered when COD4 first came out, I would play it all day long. Now Killzone 2 has that spot.

[XxOsIIruSxX]

KILLZONE WHAT GAME WILL BEAT IT.... THINK ABOUT COD4 2 COD4 I DOBT THIER GOING TO EVEN POLISH IT UP THINK ABOUT GET KZ2 PLAY THEN I CHANGE IT 2 SHOW MY FRIEND THAT HAS A 360 HE EVEN SAID YEA THAT GAME IS WAY MORE BETTER COD LOOK LIKE CRAP WHEN YOU SWAP THEM FAST

[hippo24]

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE CAPS LOCK KEY.
It has a multipurpose function you know, like maybe making it so your not in all caps.

[goflyakite]

lol @ hippo

bubble 4 u.

[anubis12]

not even close

[04soldier]

1st person cover system.
Team fortress 2 like classes.

Im done arguing with you two. You obviously went into KZ2 allready hating it before you began playing it. Off to play more KILLZONE.

[need_For_speed_69]

No, I had high hopes actually. I just regret spending money on it.

[hippo24]

Umm I actually liked killzone, granted I dont feel the need to declare its praises from the heavens, but its easily one of the better shooters to come along in the past few years.

1st person cover was only in campaign, and for the majority of the campaign I barely used it. Regardless of usage its still a minor role and does little to change how the game is played, because it simply changes from weather your stuck to a wall or not.

The class system(not a true TF class system) presents you with preset objects, with a specific role.
The perks in cod present you with preset perks that give you a specific role
One just gives you slightly more freedom.

Even still the changes are minute, and the similarities trump an individuality. The games are both great.

[phantomshadow]

Same boring stuff by HHG and his sad crew. They should think of better things to write about.

[Firstkn1ghT]

The game is rated 91%. Their are lots of better shooters on the market. You sony fans need to stop thinking KZ2 is the mecca of FPS.

With a 91% average, it's not even close.

[cereal_killa]

Yup Sales and Metajoke are what makes a game truly the best it can be... I think I'll go with Quality and Game play to tell me how great a game is. We all know (Well real gamers do) Sales don't mean sh!t and Metajoke is well a joke of a web site that is nothing but a fuel station for fanboys like you.

[BMS84]

Halo?

[Grodd]

Not sure if its better yet. But I like it much more than the demo thats for sure. So far its closer than I thought.

[Dandiego]

Hellllllllllllllllllllllllll NO! KZ2 is miles away from COD4 in gameplay... which is n1 in my priorities. The game is better without a shadow of a doubt. People who say different are NOT real gamers... sorry to say this but they don't know their stuff.

[STONEY4]

So I'm not a real gamer because I like Killzone 2 over Call of Duty 4? If you have a minute, look at this.
http://www.playfire.com/STO...
So I'm not a real gamer, huh?

[Red-Blitz]

I think KZ2 is better than COD4 and W@W, but I think MW2 will beat everything... EVERYTHING!

[Aikuchi]

I play both COD4 and KZ2 and like them. I have played Team Fortress 2 and have not got that in to it. I have also played Halo 3, I love the SP of Halo but have never understood the hype of its MP.

There are a few things that do dissapiont. First I really wish they had added the cover system to MP. Second why isen't there any mech or tank MP, I'm a old Battlezone and Mechwarroir fan, I would have love to have armor calvary in MP. I don't get it, you only use the tank and mech very little in the SP, it seems like a waist of code for the little you use them. Another thing that bugs me is that more then once i have gothen the first shot off with the shot gun at point black range and didn't drop the enemy but when they fire back the drop me every time, frustrating.

I do like the little chime you get for dropping a enemy.

[christian hour]

I'm not gonna read anyone elses opinion, I'm just gonna say yes. Yes it does. Killzone 2's multiplayer is the best thing about it. It is a thrill to play. Can't right now cos the grlfriends asleep. But I would be playing it if i could right now. Instead i'm just gonna have to finish off this rollie! Scho Long!

[badkolo]

Not sure which is better, they both excel in certain areas and lack in others, it could be people are so used to the kind of game play that cod offers that its hard to totally love killzone2 over cod, the games feel different and obviously killzone lacks in features like co-op etc...

I think GG spent alot more time on graphics, animations, weight and making mp as fun as they could and at the same time doing some things new and staying tried and true with what works in other areas.

I personally rather play killzone2 and either play it and like it or not like it and not base how good killzone 2 is by comparing it to cod4, First we complain about originality and then we complain how one game doesn't play like another game that we like. Same goes for the control layout, using alt2 is pretty close to cod controls but why does it need to be exactly like it, Is learning to play a new game to complicated, change is ok and learning how to play a game used to be what got our rocks off.

When I buy and play Ninja blade I wont be wondering why it doesn't play/control/look like Ninja gaiden, When I play a new race game I don't dislike it based on why it doesn't play exactly like forza3 or gt5.

Up until today I felt that Killzone 2 was broken, The controls where hampered by the delay lag and not the weighty feeling. Now that the new patch 1.20 arrived My view has changed and I can appreciate the game so much more, Its not noobed at all and even in the menu while not 100% perfect the response time is much improved, IN GAME when i press the R1 trigger to fire my weapon it responds instantly now, there is no delay from when i fire to when it happens on screen, I can even lower the x/y in options because i don't need to compensate for the delay.

I can now play much better then before because the controls are now fixed, i wont even get into if they are perfect because right now for me its perfect. Its not a placebo effect, i did all my tests before the patch and after and NOW THE CONTROLS ARE FIXED.

NOW I am pissed because this is how the reviewers should have reviewed it, with the patches in place. I'm loving KZ2 now and while i haven't played much MP at all Because of the controls I will now and I can enjoy it not worry about the controls.

[mochi]

Bad aiming game is king? lol...

[pshizle]

killzone2 is really in my opinion over hyped but still a good game... but not amazing at all. its more of a technical powerhouse than it is of art, story, and gameplay.

sony fans will disagree with me...since they think it is the next coming of Jesus Christ himself.

oh and they will disagree with me and call me a xbot like they typically do to people whom they don't agree with.

[badkolo]

I agree, yes it looks good and even though i can knit pick to no end its still a visual monster, yes it has jaggies, yes certain things look horrible like fans and chairs in a room but thats knitpicking, yes i have seen objects stuck in limbo and have seen your guys in sp do wierd things that are bugs but i overlook them becuase every game has bug and as long as it doesnt interfere in the actual gam play i dont care.

There are moments where the visuals surpass what i expected but then fail flat in other visual ways, again im not downplaying the game but theres many things to point to that are not perfect but so far im impressed, i care about the gameplay and now with the new patch i can say with confidence i really like killzone 2.

But, from now on i rather not hear anyone here who is a sony fan and likes killzone2 to ever tell us how gears or other games lacked a story, because there is none in kz2. I personally dont care, yeah a good story is great but most of the time i skip then if i can.
I watch them the first time for the hell of it but I do understand times change and now we expect a good story which kz2 lacks but doesnt matter to me at least. I just get a little annoyed at the things people knit pick in games on the 360 but let slide when its a game they need to succeed to warrent or validate thier ps3 purchase or thier love for anything playstation.

Until now many just forgave kz2 for having a delay in controls, so many complained that GG fixed it, yet so many overlooked it and defended the broken controls, well would have GG have fixed them if it wasnt a issue. So i did find it wierd that so many would just take bad controls and defend them but god forbid the same issue appeared in a 360 game, The sony fans would make fun of it for ever.

[badkolo]

To the ones immediatly proclaiming cod4 as god please stop, I can respect your opinion if oyu played both and prefer cod but there so much wrong with cod4 its not funny and killzone2 surpasses cod4 in the litttle tings and details that cod4 lacks. For a sequel to a a lackluster game(kz1) KILLZONE2 SURPASSES many expectations and delivers a solid game,and i love the fact that gg responds to issues and fixes them so fast, much faster then epic and many other games.

[gameman]

yes and easily KZ2 have everything that GOD 4 has and more

[Xbots play games]

Now that the bandwagon praise for K2 has finished. Let's all throw water on your faces and keep it 100% real. Call of Duty 4 is the second highest selling game (GTA 4 is #1) for PS3 for a reason. It was simply a FPS game changer. Infinity Ward built on the beautiful COD 2. I'm not going to bash K2 or anyone of the opinions that have come from the article or the comments. I just want to point out some gaming truth.

COD 4 didn't emulate the Halo series..it created it's own lane. Modern Warfare was what a game could be when all the elements are outstanding. At the end of the day, the only thing people will say about K2 was that it was a grahpical feast and a competent shooter. That's where the innovation ends.

The single player campaign does NOT outdue Call of Duty 4. How can anyone even claim that K2 has realism when it is even standing in the vicinity of COD 4. When you finish the campaign, just tell me what were the highlights that werent cutscenes. Now compare those highlights to COD 4 and let's talk. The C-130 Gunship level of COD 4 was nothing short of graphical brilliance. It was moments like this that seperated COD 4 from all that had come before it.

Multiplayer? Look we know it's not the same, but let's be real..if COD 4 was not released over a year prior to K2..then the ranking system elements would never have existed. Same for the Team Fortress elements. But, what COD 4 brought to the MP world was that instant Killcam replay that no game is touching. Every since Call of Duty 2..NO game replays and puts you into the eyes of your killer seconds before you die as a replay. it sinle handedly destroyed the ol' sniper campers trick passed down from older FPS games. Also, in my opinion, I just like CHOICE when it comes to MP. If I want to go online and play Team Deathmatch for an hour..let me do it. I don't like to be forced to play a game type. That's why Halo put that veto system into H3.
But it all comes down to preference I guess.

Either way..all of these sites can keep comparing K2 to Halo and COD 4 if they want. Watch what happenes when a co-op Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 drops towards the end of the year. That game is going to be a monster.

[mario888]

COD4 IS KING OF NOOB SHOOTERS. All noobs love CO-OP. That's the first thing my friend said when he came over to try out Killzone. He played it for 30 minute and 15 minutes online. He didn't like it because, well he pretty much sucked. Nor did he even want to try and learn it. End of story.

That's all I have to say.

[Obama]

Having played both games, it's fair to say that killzone 2 is more fun than cod4.

[badkolo]

well your right, killzone 2 handicapped itself in many ways, no friend invites, no co-op, mp matches are strung together etc.. and like i said i think that happened for a few reasons besides GG wanting to give kz2 a different feel. Even though Kz2 doesn't have to be like cod to be good which it shouldn't need to do it should have features such as co-op in order to stay relevant with what other games offer. In a way KZ2 is hindering itself with the mp portion by not being able to easily play with friends when all other games let you do so, it hinders itself by stringing all types of matches in each game, it hindered itself by releasing with broken controls which stirred controversy even though they are fixed now.

Kz2 obviously had a lot of hype to live up to and while not perfect it did the job, while not perfect it does things graphicaly that some other games dont, it has its own sence of gameplay that excells when it comes to weapons and how they feel and the umph they have, I feel like i killed the enemy, the realism they went for is felt when playing and GG was able to pull off a sequal that went above what people expected. Knit picking its sp portion isnt warrented becuase it does what cod and gears did and thats provide a entertaining sp experience. As long as the game is solid and fun they did thier job.

There is a differnce between a casual player and the hardcore who looks for every little thing to complain about. Comparing every little thing that kz2 doesnt do that cod4 does do is mostly opinion. Cod4's sp campaign is very much like what you get in every game and while the mp for cod4 is entertaining for many the sp part of cod4 was short,scripted and very similiar to other games and games to come.
Its the mp part of cod that everyone loves but is it because it does everyhting right? NO, theres so much wrong with cod4 mp and look around forums and you will see all the things that are worng or disliked.

My point is everygame has drawbacks and there is a difference between a bad game and good games and aaa games, In the end kz2 excelled in delivering an all around great game and form the way gg fixes issues so fast that im sure more changes will come that will make kz2 even better, and im cool with that becuase this gen started on the 360 and every game need a patch and needed fixes to get the game to where it should be so kz2 gets the same right as well. Im sure GG will make changes or add things to the mp to change it up and improve it.

[Bordel_1900]

Yes. I think so.

[Argento-Nox]

Couldn't we just say that Killzone is standing in the same crowd as COD4, Halo and GeOW? This whole taking the crown business is just to solicit responses. Sadly, I'm one of those idiots who contributed to the fanbait.

[riderofpl4gues]

that is a point of the article. to promote healthy debate. not fan boy war.

[Magic_The_Celt]

I love KZ2, but no i dont think it does..

[LFC1EE]

I do have a copy of kz2 some people like the games all well and good for them, me personally think the game is wasted and totally rubbish, you can't even compare kz2 with cod series, and personally i don't care if about a hundred fellow ps3 fans disagree.

[lamigol]

Killzone too iz da bezt innit. Chek dis yeah, cod4 is rubish. yu cant evn fink it iz betr thn kztoo. it roks, wiked.

You guys make me howl, I had a more intelligent conversation regarding the arguments for and against Killzone 2 being better than cod4 with my 4 year old child. Pathetic. This site was great when I first stumbled across it but it really has fallen by the wayside. No longer do I fire up N4G expecting announcements of new and exciting games to look forward to, with the OCCASIONAL x360 v's PS3 debate thrown in for fun. Noooooo, it is practically ALL, this is better than that and if you dont agree then you're not a REAL gamer. Ha Ha Ha Ha

[mario888]

COD4 is very popular because anyone can just jump on an become an instant killing machine. There are no online feature that allows you to turn Auto Aim off. That is the secret behind Call of Duty's success.

It's Noob Friendly. My friend came over to my house to try Killzone 2 and he couldn't adjust. He's so used to Halo's cheap weapons and COD auto aim he couldn't adjust. Most people either don't want to take the time to learn how to shoot without auto aim or they just don't have the eye hand cordination.

There you have it, the Secret to making a successful game is to make it Noob Friendly. There are more noobs in the world than skilled gamers.

Does the Wii ring a bell?

[mario888]

Starwars Battlefront and Socom on the PS2 started the Online Gaming for the PS2. In Starwars Battlefront 2 you had a choice , you could join a game with Auto Aim on and Team Damage off. Noobs loved it but if you wanted to join a Clan and play competitively in tournaments you had to learn how to play with auto aim off.

Sorry but COD is fun to play for Noobs and that again is why it's so popular.

Because COD does not give you the option of turning Auto Aim off online gaming is moving towards the casual side. Clans in COD are useless , you could pretty much say they are all Noob Clans.

If you think you are a skilled player and want the best multiplayer competitive online experience. Then Killzone 2 is where you should be. Clan matches are very intense and you have to use tactics.

If you don't want to take the time to learn how to aim with out Auto Aim or don't have the eye hand coordination then continue to play games like Halo and COD 4. That's why they sell so well anyway.

[dustgavin]

Killzone 2 destroys COD4.

[call_it_like_ic_it]

"WOW!Lost planet 2 looks awesome damnz look at em graphics...this game is close to uncharted Kz2 cant wait...oh hold up wait a minute no way the game is multi plat...this game suks didnt like the 1st one i hope it stays at the 360" kz2 was not impressive like all the hype made it look. it was an 8.5 game in my opinion i beat it n could never replay it again...COD4 in the other hand was the type of game that i could replay no matter how many time i beat it! Guess what? at the time when i got tired of COD4 i sold it for $55...i post the same for kz2 on craigslist for kz2 for the same price there were no takers so i reduce the price to $50 now $40 and i still don't get no takers! Disagree all you want ps3 fangirls but the bottom line the truth hurts!

[Fakes]

I beat COD4 in 6 hours, it was a great game but I can see the 360 fangirls getting their panties in a wedgy. Sorry but the sp had little replay value.

[mario888]

The single player is pretty much useless. Multiplayer is where Call of Duty Shines. When COD5 comes out maybe they will give you the option of turning auto aim off or even Dedicated servers but I doubt that you will see dedicated servers since it's a multiplatform game.

Get get ready for the same small maps where you can just throw a grenade or use the penis rocket to get a cheap kill when the round starts.

Edit: @ Call It like IC it.
Killzone 2 Mutiplayer is where the game takes it to another Level.
The way you talk , I can tell you are either full of Shiz or you just suck.

Any Hardcore FPS person has to get Killzone 2. You remind of guy I know who thinks that because he sets the game on the hardest level that shows how good he is. Then again maybe you just like story mode only. If that's the case then I take everything back I said about you..

[mll09]

The gameplay in COD4 is better than Kz2, but Kz2 is still an OVERALL better game.

[Hypnotic]

Killzone may be a better game (Haven't played it) but as far as number of people playing CoD4 will have more players since it's multiplatform. (Xbox 360, PS3, PC) Killzone may be the most played game on the PS3 eventually but overall I would say it hasn't taken CoD4's crown.

[gnothe1]

for me. I played about 2 hours of KZ2 SP an its pretty good. I just DONT like the MP, so once I beat the SP(hopefully this week) I'm gonna trade it in for RE5. but I still play COD4 ALOT, I like COD WAW but not as much as COD4.but I just don't like the feel of KZ2 MP!! so the KZ2 taking of the COD4 crown is purely subjective to ones opinion. for some it does for some it don't, I just happen to be part of the ones it don't!!