Rumor: Killzone 2 patch has improved the controls

Gamezine: Killzone 2 has been patched to version 1.2. Minor tweaks have been made to the controls.

Some have complained that Killzone 2's controls are "plagued" by input lag. Some say that it is a deliberate move by Guerilla Games to make Sev's moves feel realistic and weighty. I personally think they are two different issues.

The latest patch includes a few minor tweaks to controller input.

Some forumites are saying that the patch has improved the supposed input lag, including the removal of the controller's deadzones (there used to be a delay before turning around.)

[marcindpol]

thats right, it is great now!!!

thanks GG:)

[techie]

Really!? Online or SP too? What's different? Does it feel like a different game, or just subtle? What have they done!?

[Nineball2112]

Yeah... please explain what the difference is.

[faisdotal]

Neogaf is you!

[techie]

Yes deep is on Neogaf and proud lol

[creamydingle]

The control's feel the same to me just awesome like there were from the day K2 got released. If you cant aim with these controls its not the controls that are bad it YOU that is bad at gaming go get a wii.

[UnwanteDreamz]

Thanks man! I was worried there for a minute. Can anyone else give their impressions of the change to the controls, if any?

[decapitator]

The man with many faces. Sup man ?

[Bnet343]

I need to check this out once I go home. The lag in the aiming is terrible and affects me greatly. I'm diggin' the online mode in this game, the way you play alot of modes in a huge game, that's very creative.

[II Necroplasm II]

The patch is still not available here for me :(

[Mindboggle]

How can it be a rumour lol. Just download the patch and find out for yourself, i downloaded it but havent played it yet....I didnt think the controls needed patching anyway and I hope they havent messed it up to please the minority of idiots complaining. I have faith in GG though, they know what they're doing.

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I really respect GG for really listening to their gamers. They have done an amazing job responding to their customers!!!

However, I'm wondering if the control tweaks are just a lot of complaint about nothing and that the tweaks might just change the game for the worse to please a minority. The controls seemed fine for me prior to the patch, but I haven't tried it after yet....

Am I missing something here?

[SiLeNt KNighT]

played it for a bit and im pretty sure they adjusted the 'dead space' SLIGHTLY. like others have said its pretty hard to notice. the fist few milliseconds of turning seems to be a little faster than before. i beat single player on elite so im pretty used to sp controls and you can notice a bit more of a difference there. turning is more responsive and a little less weighty. GG is on top of their game, excuse the pun, but they already released this patch and are working on more with feedback from the community. i think thats why Kz2 turned out to be so good in the first place, GG really listened to customer feedback and made an unmatchable game.

GG is getting more respect from me by the minute.

[Statix]

You see, no one can be 100% certain that only a "minority" of people are put off by the controls in Killzone 2. I think a lot of people in the general gaming public, who haven't been hardcore followers of KZ2, or have played a lot of other shooters, will find the controls very different from what they're used to... to say the least. I mean, that's a fair statement to make, right; that the controls in KZ2 are quite different from what we've experienced in other shooters that people may have gotten used to?

A couple gamers and online publications have had major, major gripes with aiming in this game. One gamer, Brad Simmons from 4PlayerPodcast.com, has played a TON of shooters (as well as tons of other games); he played Killzone 2 live on the video feed, and he did nothing but complain about how much of a chore the aiming controls were the whole time he was playing. Seriously, the controls almost completely killed the enjoyment of the game for him. I think out of frustration, he left off at Salamun Bridge and hasn't played since then. He might be glad about some of the changes to the controls that Guerilla implemented in this 1.20 patch.

And he's not an Xbox fanboy either. If anything, he's a PS3 fanboy, based on all the time I've followed him, and all the things he's said on the broadcast.

[LoVeRSaMa]

They have done something to the controls but I dont know if its fixed, cannot aim for shiz now.

oh and Shotgun auto aim is now gone :D

[Ldubbz]

That is funny...I just finished playing the Saluman Bridge part, and man is this game frustrating. The grenade launcher also has to be the worst I have used.

Someone else said in a post a couple of days ago like they feel they get kills out of luck more than anything and I couldnt agree more. The bridge is a perfect example of that. The controls are not nearly accurate enough for the type of mayhem going on. I think there could even be a hit detection problem as well.

I hope they can address these issues through a patch because the game is bordering on being unplayable for me at this point.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

lol, are you talking about the miliseconds from the that stupid video on G4?

[whoelse]

Well I tested it and for me the mutliplayer response is quicker, bit more like you would see in COD is suppose. To be honest, I didn't notice any difference for Campaign.

[yamamoto114]

Noticed no difference for campaign. Still feel lots of input delay.

[DaTruth]

"Oh, the controlz are different then we iz use to, but the game doesn't do anything different from generic FPS".

All that bull and scoring down about it being generic and now they're complaining how different it is. These guys are ridiculous.

I love the controls! It takes some getting use to every time I play the game, but after five minutes I always have it down packed.

I haven't even gotten around to finishing the campaign because the online is so awesome.

[kwicksandz]

So much for GG sticking to their design decisions. Though i cant fault them for addressing something alot of people are complaining about.

[f789790]

I usually play fps on the pc so I'm used to precision accuracy in an instant. Go to a console and there will be a delay. With KZ2 that delay became to apparent for me.

[RememberThe357]

Even though I disagree about the controls not being accurate enough, I have noticed the hit response issue your talking about.

Every once in a while I'll get a kill a second after I've let go of the trigger. That or I'll get killed after I've turned a corner. I hope that gets looked at because It can get a bit annoying.

[kparks]

didnt do nothing.. to me the controls still suck.. the aiming still sucks. hit detection is still wrong.......... BUT THE GRAPHICS R GOOD :)

[evrfighter]

"Every once in a while I'll get a kill a second after I've let go of the trigger. That or I'll get killed after I've turned a corner."

If you were in a low ping server than you were Interp killed. In a nutshell you may have been behind the corner but the server says you weren't. This is common among fps's so remember that whenever ur fragging. However in CS you can set your interp to match your rates thus lowering interp deaths significantly.

In my experience not many fps gamers know what this is and get it confused with lag.

edit: found a pretty basic explanation of it thx to google.

"Interp is what the server interprets where a player is going to b.

When you have your ex_interp set to .11 (default), you will see a smoother model on screen (teammates, enemies) as the server guesses where they will be. Using ex_interp .01 (I use .009 because my rates at set that way), you will see more "real" frames on your screen, and that may result in the player looking choppy or skippy when you see them run.

Basically the guy saying 'LOL INTERP" more than likely got killed when he was behind a wall on his side, but the server designated him NOT behind the wall due to you most likely using .1.

If you were to use .01 in that situation, you would have probably seen him go behind the wall and you would not have been able to kill him before he went behind the wall.

Did you understand that?"

[Rapture333]

Controls, controls, controls... As soon as I got the demo for KZ2 the first thing I noticed is how weighty I felt I was moving. So the first thing I did was pop into the options menu, turn my sensitivity up and change the control layout to Alternative 2. I'm not complaining at all.

[SkolarVisari]

Better have full button mapping.

[xabmol]

And I'm usually disappointed. >.>

It'ed be cool if the PS3 got a patch to reconfigure the buttons on your controller from the XMB.

[GrabthroatShinkicker]

I'm not a keyboard and mouse guy, but I still think it'd be nicer if Sony added kb/ms-to-controller mapping in the firmware, configurable in the XMB settings menu... Then every game would support kb/ms, gamers who normally stick with PC would make the jump easier, and then people playing online with a hardware adapter or special controller wouldn't have as much of an advantage over everyone else, since people who prefer gamepad could still use gamepads, and people who want kb/ms could just use kb/ms.

I can dream.

[DeadlyFire]

Every game should have full button mapping.

@ 2.2. That should definitely be PS4 feature. Most of Sony's plans take a leap into the next generation anyway. They planned for full Keyboard + mouse support for games and XMB for PS3. Very little was done and next generation will improve on it even further. Its like when Sony decided to have online play available on PS2 they waited for PS3 to start setting it up. Same with Hard Drive. They put room for it and space for Hard Drive in the PS2, but they waited until PS3 to require it in the system. They will aim for more keyboard/mouse support in the future.

[DaTruth]

Maybe you need a dual shock 3. I hate playing with the six axis now, the DS3 is so much more accurate and has less bugs. With the six axis, once in awhile I would get that spinning thing where I lose control and the character keeps spinning in circles.

This was for the post below, I don't know how it ended up here.

[f789790]

It will replace my work computer. It will be fast as any other computer online and I can do work on it in Linux. And best of all I hopefully can use a keyboard and mouse for any game.

[RememberThe357]

The Dualshock 3 is the best controller out and thats da truth.

[kewlkat007]

..I already do not like like playing shooters with the Dual-shock, so wasn't feel them controls.

[Major_Tom]

Three generations of peripherals is suddenly uncomfortable? Get real.

[CobraKai]

In his defense, the ps1 and ps2 didn't have that many FPS to begin with.
They had some, but not that much. So i understand his discomfort w/ the DS3. I on the other hand think it's quite adequate. I still think they should focus on making FPS controllers like they do with fighting games, music games, dancing games...etc. Seriously, there are far more FPSs out there than those other games and we are relegated to standard console controls.

[IcarusOne]

I hate the DS for FPS. Love it for basically everything else. And the PS3 seems to be going more in the FPS genre. Which is frustrating given how poorly the controller performs with this type of game. I hope the FPS controller hits soon. Joystick + mouse = greatest FPS controller ever.

[kewlkat007]

that's part of the reason...the N64 and Original Xbox is what did a lot for Console shooters.

Unless you can name me one Shooter, prior to PS3, that pushed consoles sales or put console shooters on the map, on the PS brand?

Anyhow the analog locations on the DS is what I hate plus with big hands it feels uncomfortable after a while.

[kwicksandz]

3 generations of badly designed controllers for fps is why fps didnt flourish on previous PS consoles.

[rev20]

The controls have been changed alot on Single player there used to be a clear difference between the single player controls and the multiplayer. Now they both play pretty much the same.

So you no longer have the "weighty" single player controls. Multiplayer wise i cant really notice any difference.

[PS3Freak]

awesome i really don't like the controls.

[Yomiro]

Nice, I'm going to be even better with this patch.....not that I had any problems with the previous controls.

[Marie]

Uh huh

[yog-sothot]

well... I think those "improvements" are in peoples minds... as were the original "problems" !

[micro_invader]

I downloaded the patch, didn't feel any difference with the controls. They're still the same old controls that I've learnt to get comfortable with.

[rev20]

Try single player its totally different if you cant tell then your blind.

[Nineball2112]

I hope so. I'm looking forward to seeing what the improvement is.

[icechai]

how is this a rumor when its a confirmed patch? wtf

[UnwanteDreamz]

Bubbles to everyone who gave their impressions.

[Deathmammoth]

WHERE IS THIS PATCH???? I went online and no download came up? Can any one explain this for me. Was it just released in Europe and not North America yet? Thanks.

Never Mind: "The patch will be going live in Europe first and the US later on today."
I see Thanks for the info guys/girls

[DelbertGrady]

If that is true that is some splendid support from GG. Wish all developers listened to their fanbase like they seem to do.

[II Necroplasm II]

Like Rare.

...lol

[DelbertGrady]

You know about my secret love for Banjo: Nuts & Bolts? =)

Why can't people accept it's greatness!? Stop persecuting me!!

[bewrong666]

i don't really get it. the controls are just fine. you just need time to get used to it

[Qwagy UK]

just completed the game yesterday so I've had some time with the game but the patch has improved the overall feel for sure! single and online.

[Fishy Fingers]

Just gave them a spin. MP, noticed no difference at all. SP any difference is minor, not instantly noticeable, maybe more inline with the MP controls now.

[Baba1906]

nothing has changed with the controls. they are great as they are. i dont even feel the difference from other games anymore. u get used to it pretty fast.

[chidori666]

THANK YOU NOOBS FOR THIS....

[II Necroplasm II]

Well don't take the update if you won't to keep the slugish aiming feature.

[Fishy Fingers]

I doubt you'll notice any difference. I've got 45+ hours in MP and I cant tell at all.

@ "slugish aiming feature" LOL.... noob.

[iheartSONY]

Can we please stop useing the word "noob"!?

*Im waiting for for this patch to go live here so I can download it. Good or bad there is a "lag" when aiming in KZ2. I personally don't the "lag" so I hope they do change it but if they don't it's will still be a great game that I will enjoy. Change or not either way I think will all live through it.

[Nodoze]

No patch indication for me in the US?? Any ETA? Anyone else in the US see a patch?

[II Necroplasm II]

Nope not yet.

[DNAgent]

I bet the patch was to stabilize multiplayer a bit more but they throw out that it patches the controls just to see how many people think they are now different.

It's like a placebo patch just to see how many people who hated the controls before like them now. They will think it's the patch rather than thinking that they've had more experience with the controls.

Cause the controls feel exactly the same.

[Kleptic]

the official list of things fixed was more towards some glitches (shot gun lock on) and things like frontrunner not unlocking (I wasn't getting ribbons for it, even though i would use it 10x a round)...

there is a 'tweaks to control input' listed...but I wouldn't be surprised if there is some placebo effects going on...GG has stated they feel everything is fine...so we'll see...

I for one don't mind if they tighten the dead zones, as that won't effect the overall handling of the game...would just make smaller adjustments on distant enemies a bit easier...but if they go and radically change things to satisfy the complainers...i'll be pretty upset...

I'm perfectly fine with the current controls though...and love the game...I just hope if anything does get changed, its not very drastic...

[TEZ-RaViNlUnAtIk]

theres no difference, still the same!!!

[sambrownie15]

I think that the controls are pretty good, not the best, but definitely not the worst. However when using the sniper I find it awkward to zoom in and out, because of button choices.

[mrkeith]

killzone.com has the listings of what it patches. i read it like a couple days ago. nothing about the controls(though they were looking into it) it fixes some multiplayer issues(i think one of them was people not getting a certain ribbon.)

[cellfluid]

they really need 2 remove that laggg. n give u real time play there is no lagg n reality.... give the user the ability 2 choose do no force game play mecs on them.. havent we learn from lair.... get ot right gg..

[Lionsguard]

Seriously they need to eliminate the ability to respawn too I mean seriously wtf? Theres no such thing as respawning in reality. Seriously though, I don't know what the fuss is all about, the game is fine, lrn2play. I adapted within a day and the game feels normal now, I can't even tell that theres a slight not lag but delay in the animation. Though there is a very noticeable delay on some death animations.

[Lionsguard]

Seriously they need to eliminate the ability to respawn too I mean seriously wtf? Theres no such thing as respawning in reality. Seriously though, I don't know what the fuss is all about, the game is fine, lrn2play. I adapted within a day and the game feels normal now, I can't even tell that theres a slight not lag but delay in the animation. Though there is a very noticeable delay on some death animations.

[SkolarVisari]

Is there full button mapping at least?

[meathax]

no new options/button mapping, controls are much better tho, got my boost badge yaaaay

[SkolarVisari]

Sigh, this sucks. I am left handed and the left handed configurations are useless. I really wish they would just let me set the buttons the way I feel like, like in R2.

[SH3MRON]

I'm a lefty but I think I'm used to everything been for right handed people... come to think of it I don't think I can use left hand controls lol....

[Captain Obvious]

The Killzone 2 controls are slightly controversial.

[AllroundGamer]

i could definitely feel a difference after the patch and the aiming is a bit better now, but still it would need some more work...

[GamerPS360]

I didn't feel any difference. :D

[Jacobite]

I cant either they seem the same to me. Still enjoying the game though : )

[CobraKai]

This "improved" control tweak is nothing more than a placebo effect. GG actually does nothing but say that the controls are tweaked, and every gamer having issues goes; "I can feel it, the controls ARE better!". I personally can't really tell, I still suck at multiplayer.

[SH3MRON]

ROFL positive feedback for been so honest

[redsquad]

MP controls feel the same to me too. It's SP where I notice quite a difference (even though I'm delusional, apparently)

[Old_School_Gamer]

What patch? I think you guys are full of crap. Ive been on killzone 2 all day and haven't seen any patch. Ive been constantly turning my ps3 on and off, starting the game up for the past hour. Nothing.

[SIX]

I thinks it's like Europe only at this point.

[Ahmay]

bubbles 2 u

[Socomer 1979]

but what happens to the tactician?

i guess for a elimination mode of just 1 life to live you would have to make sure only certain classes get in.

[ZombieNinjaPanda]

Patch? What are you guys talking about?

I just logged in 5 minutes ago and was not prompted to dl a patch.

Region specific? Maybe?

[redsquad]

On SP campaign: It feels like the deadzone & acceleration has been changed - The stick now feels more 'traditional' for want of a better word. I didn't have a problem with the rifle beforehand, but weilding the pistol was awkward. Now it's a lot easier.

Don't feel any difference to MP to be honest - Just as great as before!

[rdang]

they tweaked the controls right after you took your sugar pill. feel better now? we know you do, because you believe you do.

[redsquad]

So Guerilla are out and out liars?
Okay, but go to the official KZ2 site and tell the GG team there, as I doubt they visit this place.

[UnblessedSoul]

Controls are much better now I'm happy

[Goldsack]

..but i have the us-version and live in germany.

[nycredude]

You know what would be funny? If GG later came out and said that the controls were not affected by the patch. All these noobs who complained about the controls then said it felt better would be owned! Placebo for the win!

[Thoreau]

sometimes, calling people noobs is arrogant. the deadzone in the responsiveness of the killzone2 button presses is very poor. psn-southpaw79, i love the game but i am not in denial of a real problem. most of my friends when back to codwaw. i am done with codwaw until codmw2. i don't want to play MGO, i want to play killzone 2 and not fight with the lack of ability to perform fine movements with the analog stick.

[Parappa The Rappa]

i think that China's economy has no where to go, but UP UP UP!

oh wait, Kz2 controls?
um. just adjust. or follow your heart. thats what i do.

[Arutha]

The controls of the game are not to bad. I got the game a few days ago and overall I am fairly happy with it (graphics are gorgeous). I do wish though that they will allow the user to customize which button does what. Going through all the preset button configurations still does not give me enough options. I'll blame Call of Duty: World at War on that since I am so used to that configuration. I still wonder how much better I could play if I could use my 360 controller instead my Dualshock 3.

Also does the POV of this game feel a bit more closer then that of other shooters?

[DJ]

I wouldn't be surprised if Halo ODST and Call of Duty: MW 2 ended up being altered to emulate what Guerilla Games has done, which is simulating how human beings actually move when wearing armor and holding weapons.

If not, then we'll probably see critics complaining about the controls feeling "too floaty", "unrealistic", and "twitchy".

[Lex Luthor]

Meh, controls seem the same.

[MmaFanQc]

cmon i want to continue on my elite game with the new control tweaks

[Dick Jones]

Never noticed any.

[Nodoze]

Placebo controls or not I want this patch as I need the boost ribbon.

COME ON GUYS RELEASE IT!!

[Ace_Pheonix]

Haven't downloaded it yet, but I must say the controls are fine. The only thing they need to add is the ability to control the sensitivity of the deadzone. Personally, I think it could be turned up a bit, it is a bit too responsive with minimal input. It's likely everyones problem and they just don't fully realize it. Just incorporate a slider to adjust deadzone sensitivity and everyone will be happy. Everyone has different preferences.

[arkalos13]

thank god for this patch, i almost stopped playing the game after the second level because of these slow (aiming) controls. Even with the sensitivity full there was no difference then when its empty. it felt as if i was playing on the computer and my graphics card cant run the game so it was lagging like sh1t. hopefully the patch fixed this. now to finish the campaign and start the online madness

[PirateThom]

I didn't notice a difference and I like the controls.

Maybe the power of the Cell can detect the noobs and apply the "improved" controls for them. :P

[arkalos13]

when i play online its better with the controls but the campaign the aiming barely moves. i found the online alot easier being that it takes two or three shots to kill someone while in the campaign it takes alot more. maybe the people online just suuck

[JustV]

They should just make a control alternative that says : CALL OF DUTY 4
since all these jockies are comparing the controllers to that game. So stupid. This game is perfect as it is....LOVE the controllers...its harder..makes it more challenging..

[flipshot808]

Yeah.. Not sure if i noticed any changes with the controls.. But I was fine with it before the patch. I did better after the patch.. but its probably placebo..

[ironmonkey]

honestly u fools are always complaining everytime. it works even better now so please just be happy and get killowned!

[swinesucker]

The patch has made the game more realistic in ways because you can turn around faster and aim more accurate in my opinion. the crosshairs are now accurate like those in a videogame should be. I have fired a decent amount of guns in my life, no heavy weaponry of course, but I still felt like the original controls were not simulating real life very well either.

It's only the fanboys who never shoot real guns that want this weighty feeling to be somehow realistic. It was never that realistic because there was never a real ******* gun in your hand. And I was shooting worse than I do in reality, at least for pistols and such. The playstation forums are being spammed by total dooshbags hating the new controls hating the old ones and everything else. I would have just taken it any way but they chose to make the crosshairs more accurate and as such the game is a tad more precise, a tad more lean and I for one would not have it any other way.

This is how the game should be. You play as a marine that apparently is going to take down the emperor. I think you should be a darn good shot to do this. Controls are great!

[divideby0]

If you really ever fired a rifle like a 30-06 you would fully know that you CANT turn quickly and shoot with any accuracy..never the less run, turn, mount your weapon and fire with accuracy...Cause all you have to do is mis mount the stock one time and you would fully know what I am talking about, I did and I had a fracture to prove it
I never had an issue with KZ controls, just the blasted shotgun and how overpowering it was

[ZEEBO4LIFESTFU]

thought the controls were perfect already...

sarcasm...

[stealthx]

the controls was good the whole time. and even if there was a problem everybody has it when you are playing them and i will call you a noob because you are getting snapped by other people that know how to use the controls.

[REALgamer]

A game SHOULDN'T have to have any learning curve for controls - the controls are simply your way of interacting with the world. Challenge should come from interactions within the game world and not control issues. If using the controller doesn't feel like a natural extension of yourself when playing a game then there's something wrong.

One game I've found to have brilliantly 'weighty' controls without the apparent lag is Chronicles of Riddick on Xbox and PC. It really felt connected to the actual character similar to what Killzone 2 is going for.

[Slinger420]

The one major thing the update changed control wise was the sluggish feeling of the m82 assault rifle in the single player campaign, that was literally my only problem with the controls and even that wasn't that bothersome. The control of the gun feels much tighter now, Thank you Guerilla Games ;) KILLZONE 2 FTW!!!!!!!!!!

[iheartSONY]

I like the feel of the new aim movement. It just feels more responsive to me. Either way can we all just get back to playing!? I must now go back and finish the campaign before I play MP again. Btw I was pretty good with the old "lagging" controls but I like it better now. Now STFU and play!

[Why dis]

Didn't get a patch that I know of.

The controls still lag its so bad when the bad guys move its like your bullets don't count(not talking bullet travel distance either)

Like in the Mech level you lock on the bad guys and the rocket goes tight through them or when you trying to get them with the rocket explosion when you aim right at their feet the rocket goes 10 feet above and 20 feet beyond no matter what you do and other times it works right.

The jerkiness(realsim) the devs tried to create is an different issue from the unplayable flaws of this game.

I beat the game more on luck than skill.

I don't know how this game scored so high with this major issue.

I think KZ2 is bottle necking PS3 that is why the PS3 can't keep consistant gameplay durring the mid sized to bigger battles.

[deathray]

U R a total idiot and should just find a new hobby. whatever U think is wrong with KZ2 is all in your head.

[PR3DAT0R]

You must really suck at playing fps if you can only complete a game by luck, i have managed to complete the game on hard (not elite). whydis you are THE most annoying person on n4g now the PP has left, there are no major flaws with the game you just suck, why don't you go play halo 3 a nice easy, unrealistic, arcade game since you cant even play a well designed master piece of a game.

there is no controller lag, its all in your head. the reaction time of the button pressing is no different to over games, you are clearly not used to the new system and stop moaning and whining about it, its really quite pathetic. kind of like yourself really from all the unprovoked PS3 hate comments.

[Major_Tom]

Oh! Gotta do my daily rounds and bubble you down (your so close to one, it's hard to resist!)

[The_Kills]

Good lord how hard is it to make a game responsive man.

[Naucious]

Is it me or does it seem you get headshots way too often especially when your not even aiming at there head lol the shotgun is still a problem i think cuz playing it earlier it seems thats what everyone is packing. The aiming is good if not better, i guess my only gripe still is the hit response and now it seems theres just way too many bots its ridiculous every corner i turned theres a bot staring me down with its barrel and giving me a headshot lol the recoil of the weapons could use some tweaking and the grenades could have a lil more wieght so you can throw them with distance and last just a second longer but then again now i think about it, dont change the grenades cuz at least that will stop grenade chucking from clear across the map lol

[LFC1EE]

Kz2 plays like denied ops with a bad camera.

[kevnb]

a bad camera in a first person game?

[SIX]

haha...Try harder next time biglee.

[divideby0]

bad camera...lol....not even close

[mc-fine]

is that the changes are slight. While still not as responsive as most shooters it is improved. Now the clowns that had convinced themselves that crap controls were a feature are crying that its COD when it has barely changed.

[SH3MRON]

Hahaha.... that is exactly what they are doing whinnying because "now the kills feel cheap"; "feels like COD I don't like it"; "its not weighted now" and they keep at it even some guy saying that because of the minority they changed the controls lol when more than 60% wanted them changed...

I like the game before and now I like it even more...

[ThaGeNeCySt]

It definitely did something... pre-patch I was barely decent... post-patch, I just ran through a slew of waaaaaaay positive k/d ratio

[jkhan]

Ok i just played a couple of hours of singleplayer and 2-3 rounds of multiplayer and I can say this that the controls are much more responsive.

[Coolhandluke420]

i hope this patch adds NAZI HELGHAST ZOMBIE mode . . . ..... split screen.

[Coolhandluke420]

omg my killzone 2 has it after i just updated it!!!

[ToastyMcNibbles]

the controls are definitely more responsive but i do wish they gave us an option because i really got used to the original way it was and quite frankly i enjoyed it more...i really liked the "heavy" feel.. now with this patch i even turned down the sensitivity one notch from the regular default because it just didnt feel the same

[whstrack2010]

the controls were completely fine. everyones so used to the perfect COD controls that it takes a while to pick these up, but once you do it feels much more realistic.

[Pug]

I never had a problem with the controls, you people wining about them need to learn to adapt and not be so stuck in your ways. KZ2 is just realistic, if you want something noddy like go and play COD or Halo.

[SH3MRON]

they didn't changed the way the game feels it is just a bit more responsive and only that it is not a mayor improvement. They didn't add aim assist or anything.

Now listen(read) to what and ADAPT...

[pshizle]

HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU.

[sleewok]

I can confirm that the controls were modified. The dead zone has been reduced significantly (by about 25%). They definitely made some tweaks to the mechanics, but I can't put my finger on it. It's unfortunate as I spent hours getting used to the controls before and now I have to "learn" it again.

[BMS84]

I like that GG really listens to gamers and fixes the little things that people complain about, and making the game perfect.