The Escapist Review: Killzone2

Poor Sony. It's hard to sympathize with them these days. Poised for another easy first-place finish in the console race, they released a device with a $600 premium just in time for a global recession. Of course, that price point was part of the plan all along. From its first baby steps onto the market, the PlayStation 3 was poised to be the connoisseur's gaming system - its sleek curves and glossy black finish recalling less a child's toy than a concert grand piano. But while they may have created the first piece of videogame hardware you could comfortable sit next to the humidor in a book-lined study, its platform-exclusive software doesn't seem nearly that exclusive.

[morganfell]

One day someone will do a review and instead of calling the controls sluggish they will properly use the term "weighty". He does however remark that L4D employs twitch controls. Also there was the paragraph that seems as if the reviewer could not make up his mind:

"Hop into the game's multiplayer "Warzone" and you're bombarded with (initially meaningless) decisions. There's a Team Fortress 2-style class system, but it only becomes available once you've unlocked new class choices through a persistent point system. You can mix and match "badges" with unique special abilities (again, once you've earned them through point grinding). You can even select your preferred spawn point each time you die, but with games this varied and fast paced, it's often hard to tell where you're headed. It's clearly a system with a ton of depth, but you feel like you're about to drown the moment you try to wade in for a dip."

There is a ton of depth. Grasping the Killzone 2 MP is not for idiots that are used to simplistic online level up fare such as COD4.

[thereapersson]

You have to keep quiet though! You're receiving disagrees because you are hurting the feelings of fanboys and n00bs everywhere... :)

[marichuu]

I haven't unlocked anything yet, but is it possible to customize weapons later on?
It better be, because it doesn't really seem to have that many weapons to choose from as you only have a selection of 2 to begin with.

The controls are fine until you notice some frustrating parts in the game, like the ATAC fight.

Is it really that hard to accept that there is obviously something "wrong" with the aiming system since so many people are complaining about it? Does it have to be for noobish and fanboy reasons? Why can't someone just have the opinion that it doesn't feel right no matter how "realistic" it's trying to be... it's a game, it's supposed to be fun, and realism isn't always fun for everyone.

[SRU9600]

"One day someone will do a review and instead of calling the controls sluggish they will properly use the term "weighty"."

You can call them whatever you want, they will still suck.

Seriously, just because the "devs" want the controls this way does not mean that gamers feel the same way (outside of the blind fanboys, that is).

It's a very good game with very bad controls.
That is the truth.

[TheBand1t]

I, for one, prefer the slightly slower controls, as I was getting tired of those COD-esque ridiculous fast paced games, so I can appreciate what KZ2 is doing with theirs.

[marichuu]

@1.4
I run out of ammo before anything in that fight... I miss a lot, even with the rocket launcher when the ATAC is electrocuted.

Also, I just killed 2 people online meleeing them because they couldn't aim and kill me...

[legendkilla]

reveiwer getting owned by me in Killzone 2 online... ouch sour grapes, from a no name website..

[solidjun5]

once you learn it, it becomes second nature.

"It's a very good game with very bad controls.
That is the truth. "
Nope, just your truth. Let's not get confused please.

"Is it really that hard to accept that there is obviously something "wrong" with the aiming system since so many people are complaining about it?"

Well is it really hard to accept there it's fine since there are tons of people have no problem with the controls? Seriously? I know it's not a twitch shooter and I'll admit It took a bit more time for me to get adjusted to it, but just like people's beloved COD4, after a while, you become good at it.

[DJ]

For its weighty controls and lack of auto-aim. I found it really liberating when I joined the Multiplayer Beta, and the final controls in the retail version are even better.

I feel like an actual person when I move around in the game, not just a floating camera.

[Ve3tro]

The Escapist is a very large and popular site.

[marichuu]

@1.7
Reason I used quotes for the word wrong was exactly because there isn't anything broken about them, it just doesn't feel right even though it's something you can master with time.

I like my shooters to be swift and precise, which isn't the case with this weighty feel. This is also the reason I didn't like the first Gears that much, it had this sense of weight on the characters which I never really got used to.

Thank you for being constructive about the case, bubbles to you, kind sir.

[solidjun5]

so I'm glad you didn't take that way.

Anyway, I understand you like yours quick and I did at first. I was like "WTF" when I started playing the multiplayer. Then I found the sensitivies that suit me and while It's still not as quick as COD4, I started getting better and better and now (while it's not second nature...yet), I'm more comfortable. I'll admit, it's going to take a while to master but I'm sure it will be rewarding.

[UnwanteDreamz]

I just don't understand why so many complain about the controls. The difference in the way this game controls compared to others was never a secret. They said it woldn't feel like other shooters you had been playing. All the beta testers talked about the controls being slower.

So please tell me why the game releases and people still buy it thinking it will be like COD. If you want to play a game with swifter movements then go play one. Just stop trying to get them to change it because you don't want to learn something new.

[callahan09]

@SRU:

Blind fanboys? So now if you like Killzone 2 and think it's controls are fine, you're a blind fanboy?

Nope, I guess it isn't possible for someone to enjoy the game and be comfortable with controlling it unless you're deluded by bias. /sarcasm

[odisho68]

dude once u get used to it it's awesome...if ur not used to it by the sniper level ur gonna have a problem...but seriously tho the controls are perfect...i'm using the alt 2 control scheme and i'm loving this game...there is nothing wrong with the controls and my player moves as if he's a real soldier not like he can run like freakin usain bolt with all these weapons attached to him and still be able to pull off incredible aiming skills that would be impossible even for the best real life soldiers

[dantesparda]

And there is nothing wrong with them. They feel fine to me, and i like the way they feel. And i also dont think there really is a big difference between them and any other FPS, but like everything else fanboy related nowadays, it all ridiculously exaggerated (im talking about the media & the 360 fanboys)

[beavis4play]

they add to the immersiveness of the game.
i'm so tired of the "twitch" shooters. very unrealistic. i hope more FPS games go towards this kind of realism.

[rockleex]

So of course it won't be hard to aim in COD.

But I still remember when I first picked it up, it took me just a little less amount of time than Killzone 2 before I was exceptional at aiming and shooting.

Anyways, let anyone who hasn't played COD yet try COD, and they will aim like a retard. ^_^

[RumbleFish]

Why don't people realize that those who complain about the controls do not mean the slower, weightier feel of the game.

I'm allright with the slow controls and the weighty style. Just remove the lag from the controls. It does abso*******lutely not make any sense to have lag in the controls of an FPS!!! This is rediculous!

And most of the people who do not complain just act like this game was a holy cow. Wake up! Even a near perfect game like Killzone 2 may have a major flaw.

If GG can sort that out the game will even be better. Better than anything on the console market. Think about that instead of calling the many gamers who don't feel allright with the controls stupid. Just one week after release one third of my friendlist has returned to CoD and one third has returned to SOCOM. I asked them why! Because of the controller lag!

And again for all of you who still don't get it: this is not about having another CoD, this has nothing to do with the slower and weightier style of the game. It's all just about a noticable lag of the controls!

[SuperM]

dont whine about the ATAC fight. If you had trouble its only because you suck. did it first try in about 30 seconds. It was piss easy.

[morganfell]

Use the bunker and you won't die at all against the ATAC.

[Killjoy3000]

Wat I don't understand is why the aiming system (in first person) in rainbow six vegas was so lauded yet it clearly followed the same premise of realism. same with graw. sorry to compare a ford focus to a ferrari here, but if you look at the history you'll know what i'm talking about.

[MisterNiwa]

Controls are perfect, if the most people wouldnt be that ret*rded and just start with the 2nd one without even playing the 1st, they wouldnt complain, its almost the same controls.

=/

Me was General in 10 hours of online gaming, when i first entered i started at being place 2~5 now im almost everytime 1~3...

Seriously, i dont want to play CoD4 ever again, the controls sure suck major ass lol.

[kwicksandz]

the devs of lair wanted motion controls for their game. that didnt make it the right decision either.

[LiquifiedArt]

Its really simple. The people whos COD skills don't carry over 1:1 are pissy. Plain and simple. I'm in the Top 4 every single game MY FIRST TIME PLAYING!!! and it feels amazing. Not just doing well, but the feeling and feedback you get from killing someone. Every kill feels like the completion of a small tidbit task.

This isnt Auto-aim heaven (HALO). This is a serious FPS for SERIOUS clan goers alike. Headshot kills are hard, but are Rewarding. I've went on 6-0 streaks.

NOTE: I use the best controls (STANDARD) and unlike COD ONLY iron sights when it is neccessary, otherwise I shoot from the hip in controlled Bursts. I personally think the people bit@hing are the people playing the game entirely wrong, both mentally and physically.
But Damn what a great experience when you settle into it. Unmatched!

This game requires more planning then run blindly and spray.

Positioning > Twitching
(just as in real life)

[qqjohn]

You hear only the complainers. Think about all those who are not complaining...
If 9 people like a product, I can garantee you that you will only hear the 1 person who dont´t like it.

[negative]

All of you Sony fanboys are the same. The controls are SLUGGISH, NOT weighty. LOL

The game just isn't that good. Word of mouth and sales will prove that, not hyped up scores.

And I own BOTH consoles, PS3 and 360. I haven't started the KZ2 campaign yet. Only multi so far in the first 5 days. I just might sell it now after my experience so far.

Gran Turismo of shooters.... ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[red5ive]

hate this guy's voice. he sounds half asleep, the douche. he keeps making half-assed comparisons with COD4, L4D, and Team Fortress. he really accentuates the fact that ps3 was $600 at one point and that we all have a reason to finally purchase it. stupid guy. escapist... more like..... moron.... ist.

[pwnsause]

poor COD players who play KZ2. Did they forget that this is the "Gran Turismo" of shooters when it comes to realism?

[ChilliDemon]

"Gran Turismo" of shooters". I like that phrase.

[dznutz00]

perfect wording

[ParanoidMonkey]

Sticking with the racing analogies, what does that make ARMA or Operation Flashpoint? Tickets to the biggest race in the world with an all inclusive free car of your own to race in?

Killzone 2 is incredible, don't get me wrong, but let's not get carried away here.

[Mutley416]

LOL *pulls copy out of the humidor*...*snifs box*....ahhh PWNEGE
This game aint for the weak minded and is no walk in the park...kinda like Socom on Steroids & Gamma Rays(incredible hulk) not easy, but well worth the learning curve-

can`t wait to level all the way up-

[Torch]

"Gran Turismo" of shooters..."

Good one. Bubbles for coining a potentially soon-to-be-popular phrase.

As far as I'm concerned, the controls are perfect; auto-aim/aim-assist is for toddlers and should henceforth be limited to product deriving from Fisher-Price.

[Rythrine]

I admit that it took me awhile to get used to the aiming but now I got the hang of it and its awesome. I really love the realism that GG put in this game. I went back to play R2 just to compare and its like a "baby aiming game" like you mentioned. You have to specifically pick your shots in this game which I really liked. It puts strategy and not just bullet-spraying.

Just a tip: Its better to shoot from the hip with burst shots than zooming in. I only use the zoom when I see a camper from a distance.

[Figboy]

ages ago, and got disagreed with! lol.

ah well.

i don't get why people b*tch so much about the controls.

the media were constantly comparing it to CoD4 during previews, even when they KNEW that it was nothing like CoD, and now they want to run with it when the gamers went into KZ2 expecting CoD4, and got, well, Killzone 2.

i personally love the controls, and i'm doing rather well in MP, and i can literally SEE myself improving with each match.

i remember in the beta, i was averaging about 5-10 kills per match at the beginning. by the end of the beta, i was averaging at least 30 kills per match.

you DO get better at the game the more you play. it's the same with just about EVERY game, so i don't see why this is suddenly intolerable in Killzone 2. personally, i thought the controls in Gears of War 1 and 2 were too sluggish for my tastes, but nobody complained this much about it.

double standards and hypocrisy are simply out of control this generation of gaming.

[RumbleFish]

Exactly! You don't get it! Everything ist fine with the controls despite the lag! LOL! Everybody is ******** when it comes to internet connections and lag and here you are: this fabulous game has a lag of almost 0.2 seconds allready implemented. You surely would change your ISP if your connection had such a latency! LOL!!!!!

[lelik]

realism is where it's at. look at the direction GTA went in and its metacritic. Gran turismo is the number one racing game for a reason. Gaming is heading towards realism.

[SRU9600]

Since when do piss poor controls equal realism? lol

[UnwanteDreamz]

LOL why dont you go play a game with controls you like and stfu already. Your comment is your opinion, nothing more.

[beatrixkiddo]

ok, so i loved COD4 and got pretty darn good at it. What I love about KZ2 is that you have to aim just right. Every trigger pull, gives you some kickback so you have to do more of a pop,pop,pop, than a constant spray of bullets straight into your opponents body.

if an opponent is running you have to follow him until he stops to make the shot. The gun is too heavy to hit a running target unless you time it just right. SOOOOOO much more satisfying when you make a kill!! I'm not that good yet but i am getting better. Oh, and the headshots!!!! Kick A in this game!! Just thinking about it is making me wish i was online right now!!

There are some guys getting pretty good right now too and it pisses me off that i don't have the time to put into it. Just got my engineer badge. Still like to play as medic with the M82 best so far. I do like all the light machine guns though as well.

[Yomiro]

This games is so realistic, the vibration on the control adds a very realistic recoil effect that if you just shoot like crazy your aiming is going to go all over the place.

[SRU9600]

Is being able to hit someone from all the way across the map while shooting from the hip realistic, also? lol

For real, you guys are just saying that the game is realistic to cover up for the horrible controls.
Stop trying to play it off like you are not. : /

[UnwanteDreamz]

This is a comment from SRU9600 on another topic. I only quote him because it explains his hate for KZ2's controls.

"This is my most anticipated game ever.

Call of Duty 4's multiplayer continues to blow me away. It is as close to perfect as a FPS has ever come.

I can only imagine how awesome Modern Warfare 2 is going to be..." -SRU9600

[SRU9600]

You gotta try harder than that, bro. lol

And don't you have better things to do with your life than read all of my back posts? That is rather sad. lol

[UnwanteDreamz]

Is it as sad as you posting FUD about KZ2 instead of ignoring it? LOL at you calling anyone sad.

Oh and I'm not your bro.

[SRU9600]

Settle down, sparky.
We are discussing video games, not the middle east. lol

The control issue with Killzone 2 is well known and aggravating to many gamers. Burying your head in the sand and saying "these controls are so awesome!!" is not going to make them any better.

[UnwanteDreamz]

"The control issue with Killzone 2 is well known and aggravating to many gamers."

There are just as many gamers who have no problem with the controls.

"Burying your head in the sand and saying "these controls are so awesome!!" is not going to make them any better. "

I acknoledge the fact that SOME people have a problem. So why can't you admit that a person could like the controls without being in denial. Are you saying there is no possible way I could really like the controls?

[bviperz]

But make the controls 'better'? Or make make them so the game becomes 'easier'. Here's my take, most people who are complaining are those who are getting shot in the back, but can't do a jump-180-turn-to-prone-head-sh ot. Then they die and cry out, "THESE CONTROLS SUCK!"

[callahan09]

SRU, it's obvious that you WANT killzone 2 to be flawed. You never wanted this game to be good, you wanted it to be a flop, so now you're grasping at straws, trying to make any perceived issue that a vocal minority might have with the game (its controls) out to be this huge, ruining thing. You want the game to fail because it's a PS3 exclusive. If you were a real gamer, you'd want it to be good so you could play a good game. You've never played this game, yet you're latching on to this control thing like you know all about it, like you've got the facts, when in fact you don't even have a subjective experience with it. You hear one thing from that vocal minority that you could construe as a flaw, and you latch on and launch your FUD attack online. You want it to be true so, so bad, but that doesn't make it true.

[SRU9600]

I got the game through Gamefly. It is sitting right here in front of me. : /

I simply want games to be the best that they can be, and myself and many others think that Killzone 2's controls are crap. Total crap.

I had intended to purchase the game through Gamefly if I liked it, but the controls bother me so much that I am going to send it back after I play through the single player.

I realize that people want AAA PS3 exclusives so badly that they are willing to tolerate garbage controls and pretend that they love them, but I am not one of those people.

I also realize that N4G is full of those people, so I fully expect to see more posts like callahan09's. lol

Oh, and unicron, the only thing you smell is the BS being spread about how there is nothing wrong with Killzone 2's controls.

[callahan09]

Dude, you're spouting off this crap like it's impossible for us to actually like the game and be fine with it's controls, to actually enjoy holding that Dual Shock 3 and play Killzone 2 with it. Well, I enjoy the game. Tons of people enjoy the game. You're just loaded on this idea that the controls are crap and that's a fact, well, it's not a fact. It's an issue individual's either do or do not have with the game, and I do NOT have that issue with the game. I enjoy the game immensely. You're just another person who refuses to stop criticizing the game, so now you've picked something subjective and tried to say it's factually bad.

[pansenbaer]

You're right, he hasn't played it because its still sitting in front of him. :) Seriously bud, I like the controls. I don't really get how you think you can argue with that statement of FACT. I hated how Gears of War controlled but does that make it 'piss poor'? No, I'm sure millions of people like the way it worked. I like the way Killzone works. I like knowing I achieved the kill and the computer didn't help me. I like that the characters realistically react to things like inertia and gravity. I like knowing I'm controlling a human and not a cyborg that can jump five feet in the air without any sort of propulsion. I like the controls.

[beatrixkiddo]

"Is being able to hit someone from all the way across the map while shooting from the hip realistic, also? lol"

What game were you playing when you did that? Definately wasn't KZ2 Shooting from the hip only hits someone if they are at the most 10 feet in front on you. This game as the most AWESOME aiming controls i have every played with on a video game. You guys, that are mentioning "lag"? I haven't experienced this at all. Anyone else notice any "Lag"? I get recoil and when i move the gun from side to side quickly and fire you lose your aim but i have never had "lag".

[CoxMulder]

Why in hells name are you trying to have a discussion with a known fanboy? Have you not learned a thing about the internet??

SRU stop failing at life and just get some skill, you won't complain about the controls..

ps: Getting close to 400 headshots online! what controller lag??

[Unicron]

I smell SRU's fear. It's funny.

3 comments in one hour? Wow. Quite a lot of attention from you towards Killzone.

There there.

Anyways, Warzone was an awesome idea, it keeps things fresh and moving... just killing people has gotten boring for me over the years.

[barakiu]

I was really disappointed. :(

[marichuu]

Hopefully he'll do one this week :p
I'd really like see people crying about his review xD

[LCF]

I love Yahtzee. Though I don't agree with every review he does, it does make me laugh ("chest high walls"). With like most of his reviews he does bring out some good points. I put him up there with AVGN.

With Yahtzee it seems he thinks every video game is crap and the video game needs to prove to him otherwise. He has high standards, nothing wrong with that.

[marichuu]

Well he's supposed to criticize games, and he does it a bit too well :p
And I do share the exact same opinion about GTA IV and Saint's Row 2 and even Fallout 3... he's not afraid to say that he dislikes some aspects of any game.
I don't watch his reviews for information though, I do it for pure entertainment... and he sure delivers!

[Guitarded]

The controls will hinder the popularity and sales of this game. Neither GG or Sony seem to care. Crappy controls in an otherwise great game just reinforce my decision to wait for a $200 or less PS3. Thank you GG and Sony for saving me $400. Keep up the good work.

[marichuu]

Too bad many people already bought the game thinking it would be better than the demo as many stated. After several hours I still don't feel comfortable with the aiming, which is not a good sign for me at least.

[DavidMacDougall]

After having half a brain i changed the controls to my liking and got used to it in half an hour. Best FPS and with the lag free online and the deep reward system im going to be happy for ****ing ages

[marichuu]

The controls are fine, the aiming is being an ass ;(

[dznutz00]

i thought u guys were gamers but i guess not because if u r a gamer then u would be like "the controls are not what i normally play with but imma get the hang of it an then ill be #1 and kill everyone"

but instead all i hear is "i truly suck at gaming in general and suck even harder at this game"

i say this because if everyone is playing the game the same way with the same control skims then the problem is U

killzone 2 is separating the MEN from the boys
man up or back down like a baby
and u call urself hardcore

ps: before u reply just remember i dont give a F**k about ur opinion just hit the disagree so i can count how many kids r on n4g

[Narutone66]

who's jealous that he can't play KZ2.

[kickaski]

Try having the X sensitivity at default and the Y increased.

[SpitFireAce85]

Get used to them or dont play the game.This game is a strategic FPS
its not a noob fest if you want to win you have to place spawn
points and turrets in specific places so your team can spawn closer
to the battlefield and play as a team unlike COD4/CODWaW where its running and gunning every man for him self.And this is not halo where
u see a dude jumping around 5-10ft and giving people head shots with
a pistol from 50 yards away.

[marichuu]

What you said about Halo there is what I call fun, however Halo wasn't that fun.

And I won't be playing the game any more, at least not until I see a change in the accelerated aiming.

[CoxMulder]

Good.. I don't need people like you online when i play my new favorite game in years.

Thanks for sharing your opinion tho, over and over and over again.. really... thank you..

[devilhunterx]

Waiting for Yahtzee review

[Figboy]

the people complaining about the controls are acting like the people that LIKE the controls have never played an FPS title before, and are somehow being DUPED into enjoying Killzone 2's controls.

yes, i've never played DOOM, Quake, Half Life, Goldeneye 64, Timesplitters, Halo, CoD4, Resistance 1 and 2, and ever other FPS that has hit the gaming scene in the 25+ years the industry has been around *rolls eyes* /sarcasm.

people simply need to accept the fact that they don't like the KZ2 controls and shut up, and leave the people that DO like them alone.

Guerrilla Games is in charge of the game they make. they are creating a product that THEY themselves would like to play, and it is completely up to US, as intelligent consumers, to decide if we like what they are offering and buy it.

some people will like it. others will not.

it's like complaining about a restaurant that serves Sushi, because you don't like Sushi. it's not the restaurants fault that you don't like what they serve, and it's well within your rights to go elsewhere.

if you don't like KZ2's controls, simply go elsewhere.

some of us like Sushi. some of us don't.

i happen to enjoy it a lot, and i happen to enjoy Killzone 2 as is.

enough with this topic already, from both sides.

[marichuu]

How about I like the sushi, just not the way they make it, I could kindly ask them to make it a bit different, and hey... they might actually do it. Bad example.

The thing is, many people (including myself) would really like to play this game and have FUN (most important thing about gaming imo) while doing so, but sadly the fun factor is behind the ability to play the game, which many people (including myself) simply can't get used to exactly because of the sensitivity acceleration when aiming.

Call me incompetent, but I don't think the core aspect of a FPS should be a project to master.

[CoxMulder]

Marichuu, I would like to thank you again for spending all your bubbles trying to downplay Killzone 2..

Also, thanks for trying to pass your opinion as fact, and speaking for the masses.. Are you speaking for the THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of people putting many many hours into the MP and having the best MP experience in years?? Or could it be your speaking for the sour 360fanboys??

But before I deviate.. Thanks man!! Appreciated..

[badbond1]

The game is off the chain. The controls are fine. If you are a real gamer, you'll be able to adjust. The ps3 will go down to 200.00 bucks when you are 40 yrs. old. and by that time, I'll have purchased a ps4! LOL! The real haters are making excuses because nothing will stop this game from being a hit. Take that xbots!

[CaliGamer]

The controls are fine, people just get so complacent that they can't envision playing any other way. Add me if you on PSN, my tag is TASHITO.

To everyone, I am in the need of a clan, hit me up if you can help.

[Thoreau]

i just got a top 6% badge, and i still struggle with the controls. the hand gun and an assault rifle should not handle with the same weight, but they do.

if any killzone 2 owners want to test my skill=psn,southpaw79

[GarandShooter]

Thoreau, it's the mass of the entire soldier, not just the weapons, that needs to be taken into account. When the rifle is in you hands, the pistol is on your hip, when the pistol is in you hands, the rifle is slung over your shoulder, therefore overall mass is the same.

And I'm not saying your opinion is invalid, just trying to explain the similar feeling of the two weapons.

[lelik]

i haven't gotten killzone yet, amazon shipped it sunday. i played the demo though and I'm feeling the controls. Doesn't feel like there is any aim assist in the game. Maybe that's whats got people crying.

[kingCangri]

I recently convert, not by choice ,but cuz my girlfriend show up with a PS3 for Chrissmas, but hey nice blue ray player I though. Am a XI FPS gamer so I decide to give a chance to Resistance 2 , play online and my love for PS3 start growing. It was fun , balance , lots of weapons... love it !!!! Then , I was waiting for this game to finally come out and see the soo call power of the PS3 , and ..didn't disappoint . F@# luv it , the graphics, the sound , so intense WOW !!! . Then play it online and it was extremely good , but only 1 complaint.....yeap , you guess it . the freaking controls. The aiming its ok could be better, and how many rounds does it take to put to sleep someone?, seems like all of them borrow a much better version of MasterCHief armor. Major reason I stop playing Halo!! (damage levels?)
U manage to sneak behind some one. u smack him clean w/ the weapon in the back of the head and prolly u gonna need 2 more smacks, and thats is if u can find him, cuz now he knows ur there behind him LMAO .. and get ready for a dance off, cuz theres gonna be a lil dancing around just trying to find and kill each other.(AIMING ?) But over all is a good freaking game , Im very impress w/ this masterpiece and hopefully Sony wont have me waiting 4 more years to enjoy a game this good!!! If it wasnt for the aiming and the damage levels, I will give this game a 10, but for now is a 9.5 in my book
Im a Xbox gamer and I approve this message.

[LittleDozer]

Umm (?/10)?

[vlazed]

Killzone 2 controls make for an excellent example of natural selection. If you can't adapt, you perish. Or in the case of videogames, if you can't adapt, you complain.

[vlazed]

Haha at disagree, you must be a creationist.

[Trebius]

The game is being enjoyed my tons of people right now, even with the 'weighty' controls. Some people think it's terrible, while others become accustomed to it right away and dont let it bother their gaming experience. At least it's not comparable to LAIR and its terrible scheme.

Resident Evil 5 is a prime example. The controls are terrible, half the gaming community cant stand them, the other half accepts that thats the way it should be and it's not bad.

Agree to disagree and move on, the game is still amazing.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

The controls are by far my biggest complaint in the game. I have tried the default and obsolutely hated it to the point I wouldn't play it. So I use the Alternate 2 and it works far better for me however, it still sucks.

When I'm in cover its a total pain to try and peak out and use the zoom.

I don't know why GG didn't just put a 1:1 CoD style control scheme. The game would fit perfect with their control scheme and everyone would be happy. I haven't seen a valid reason for not doing that besides just being stubborn.

To be people saying "get used to it and stop hating this game" I would say Too Human complaints should have been thrown out as just hate as well. Since most complaints came from the camera+controls, you can just get used to it right? I was able to play it fine. However, the game was killed in reviews for poor camera and controller scheme because it was different.

[LiquifiedArt]

My Setup: 46in XBR LCD, 5.1 Surround, Dual Shock3, Default Controls

Take Note: I played a 1hr Campign session and then a 6hr Campaign Session.

My Take: This is the Best FPS Experience I've EVER had.

My Gaming: 6hr MP, #1 - #4 positioning-90% of the games, Team Won 50% of all games, All games were ranked

(Notice I told you this, so you understand I didnt do poorly and Moan about my lack of skills)

let me attempt to explain...

Explanation1: The only way to describe it, is the most Visceral Killing expereince ever. (I know I may sound Pyschoitc, but no I dont want to kill anyone). You can't see it from videos or pictures or trailers. This is something you MUST put your hands on and play. Not just for 1 hr, or 2, Put a solid few hours in it, learn it and you'll never want to play anything else again. PERIOD.

Explanation2: My fiance thought i was crazy with this explanation. This isnt shooting at some polygons or some animation models. Imagine this....Hang a LARGE slab of T-BONE steak up (size of a cow), pick up a fully automatic machine gun, stand back and Blast it to pieces. Once again, i know i sound psychoitc, but I assure you i'm not into anything death related. From the Sound it makes to the kick back to the animation, It is impossible to compare to any game that exists TODAY. PERIOD.

DEBUNK CONTROLS: Internet swirls up with nonsense about controls. From What ive experienced they are PERFECT. There is no game you have ever played to compare this to. Not COD4, COD5, HALO, R1, R2, Gears NADDA so don't try. Its its own Entity entirely. Go into this game with excitement, Without trying to Compare it to anything and I promise you, you will not regret it. If you expect it to play like HALO, COD4/4 etc... You will be dissapointed because gues what.... IT FEELS NOTHING LIKE THEM. Its the most VISCERAL SHOOTING EXPERIENCE EVER. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. You are doing a diservice to yourself as a GAMER not to own this and sink some time into it.

[atticusflinch]

Site noob alert (that would be me)!! I would like to begin with a shout out to the gamers; go on and give it up - PS3, PC, Xbox 360, hand-helds, etc. I am a PS3 only (this gen) man myself, and I truly respect what the mind trust at GG is doing with KZ2. Nonetheless, I have to call out the proponents of "realism" in the control design. No one seems to answer why every weapon has the same heft - shouldn't the logical approach include variability with respect to the physics? Secondly, when it comes to a sense of realism in a FPS, it is fair to say the graphics definitely play a key role. And, when it comes to comparisons to Gran Turismo, it is far easier to incorporate a sense of racing realism into the control schematics than it is to transfer conditions of infantry styled combat to sticks and buttons. Honestly, in a FPS it is really pushing the envelope of "rational" thought to make statements of realism when referencing the controls. I'm not going so far to say that to many combat seasoned veterans of actual wars you sound like douche-dimpled dip sh1ts on donut highs when you make statements like the "analog stick" and "fire buttons" being calibrated in such a way - adds to your perceived sense of realism (excuse me, I guess I did go so far as to say that), but come on fellas, really?!? It might be time to get real with it and enjoy the game for what it is - a game. The additional sense of weight may make for a different experience than the typical cookie cutter console offering, and that is to be respected. But, "realistic" it ain't (at least when it comes to controls and yo mamas couch). Grittier perhaps, unique (in a game of this magnitude), and even brilliant, but realistic? I would go so far as to say REPRESENTATIONAL, but to some, this may be a matter of semantics (and even splitting over grown hairs with double dead ends). Great game, challenging controls and an outstanding illusion of immersiveness, irrespective of how you define it - oh yes!! But, maybe just not as realistic as some of you would like to believe.

If you're schooled enough to know how George Clinton turned on the flashlight of funk, then you know where I'm coming from.

[mastiffchild]

How crap would lifew be if every shooter controlled like COD4? Crap, that's wjat'd be, cl;aptrap of the highet.
Killzone2 has weighty turning and great recoil and doesn't baby with auto lock. Itr woulks jusy have been a pretty COD in space had they failed to hit the most realsitic ahooger controls in gaming.
If you wanna cry use alternate 2(the Cod lpobver setting so you can reat yourself to half the experience, half the fuin of finding something better and nes.
I love COD but these controls are limes better and true console conrols so going "waaaah controls broked!" says much more about your inabiliyty to game corre3ctly by doing what we always had/and should do-adjust to the most realist console shooter controls created and I've got NO lag on my presses at all now(nhever did) and it just shows the lengths some KZ haters will go to to stop you really loving this truly great and completing it using thre most true to nlifr guns

[zonetrooper5]

Killzone 2 is not realistic at all, try Red Orchestra on the PC if you want a game more closer to realism. Still haven't picked up Killzone 2 yet but I will be buying it soon enough.

[Kornster671]

and I like how the controls feel. It definitely seems a lot more realistic and enjoyable at least to me than say halo or cod with sensitivity cranked to 10 lol. Fast controls and turning ability to me should stay in the quake and unreal type of games. But thats just me.