GTA 5 To Be PS3 Bound?

"There has been recent discussion of the exclusivity of Grand Theft Auto 5, regarding the statements Rockstar has made toward the Xbox 360. This is a two sided article formed by two different opinions on why Grand Theft Auto 5 will or will not be exclusive to the PS3."

-TheGamerAccess.com

[Lfmesquite]

what happen to the new PS3 exclusive from Rockstar that Sony talked about.

[original seed]

written poorly and pure speculation.

[lord_of_balrogs]

GTA4 sold more copies on the 360 then the PS3, ya it's defenetly going exclusive, that's like making Final Fantasy a 360 exclusive. The only way GTA5 would be a PS3 exclusive is if Sony pays a lot of money for it and Sony doesn't pay for exclusives.

[chrisnick]

first thing, sony pays for no exclusives,dlc or anything of the like.
second, the only way i think gta5 will be exclusive is if its effing huuugeee. all of the series' maps in one?...Epic. but more importantly won't fit on a single dvd. If those maps have the gorgeous detail of gta4, there's no way it will fit on one dvd disc. MS makes u pay for anything larger than 2 discs i believe and that's just too much money aside from developmental costs is too much, besides by the time that comes out the ps3 install base would easily be 30-50 mil (based on its 10 mil per year average) so if they sell 4-5 million copies they'll be able to live with that.

[StephanieBBB]

If GTA 4 was on 2 DVD-9's I'm sure it would have had allot more content. Kinda stupid of rockstar not to take advantage of that.

Although disc swapping is kinda annoying but either that or a install disc and a play disc would do the trick.

IF GTA5 comes exclusive to the PS3 it's not the end of the world imo. How much more different can it be from GTA4? Other than bigger landscape and more vehicles of course. Same sh't different number.

[ps3d0]

there is no way rockstar would not make gta 5 multi plat it sold about 5.5 million on the ps3 and almost 7 million the 360. No way they are walking away from that kind of money.

Besides after gta4 was so god awful does anyone even care about gta games any more ?

[SixTwoTwo]

http://blog.us.playstation....

OT I would be shocked if GTA V was a PS3 exclusive. Its one of those 3rd party franchises that is just too big to be exclusive.

[vhero]

the fact is though they still had to nuke half there ideas for the game thanks to 360 storage limits. 360 and its damn storage limit ruins games FACT. It ruined GTA4's full potential and it will ruin GTA 5's if its an exclusive as its too damn small for a HD nex gen game of that magnitude. With blu ray and HDD you could have lots of islands and a lot more hours gameplay. Whereas with 360 you cant even rely on its HDD as some 360's don't come with 1. If only 360 made HDD mandatory the DVD space wouldn't be a problem..

[caladbolg777]

Red Dead Revolver 2. Although... the official RDR website shows Redemption as being multi-plat. If not RDR, then a new IP?

Thoughts?

[SixTwoTwo]

Its a brand new IP. I doubt we here any details anytime soon. Sony signed a deal with NCSoft around the same timeframe (E307) and we've yet to hear anything on that front as well.

[Blaze929]

GTA saw more sales on the xbox 360...why would R* completely ditch the 360 after making more money on it and getting $50 mil from Microsoft.

[japanese_dawn]

Last time all of us others checked PS3 was the bread making platfrom for Rockstar, so add a something bit called more powered house that is PS3 and a BD and you get yourself exclusive. I say fck the 360!

[StephanieBBB]

As a developer what would you like to be remembered as?

A greedy company that bends over as soon as your superior told you to,

or

A amazing gang of artists that visonalized thier dreams and shared it amongst thier fans.

It might not be about the money anymore, they made ALOT on GTA4 alone and even more on the DLC.

[ape007]

built it up on ps3,use blu-ray,cell processor

then port it to 360 no problems

this move will give the best sales and the best quality of the game :)

the point is to utilize ps3,that's it

who agrees?

[DominusRebellis]

Face it everyone, GTA is done! R* needs to move on because GTA4 showed everyone how limited they are in creativity. I have never been so disappointed with a game as I was with GTA4. After the 8th "chase him down and kill him" mission, I brought the sh!tty game back and bought something better.

GTA5 would be pointless unless they add something new and innovative like zombies or something stupid like that, other than that, they are done. Sorry R* move out and make way for some real PS3 game developers!

[PS3istheshit]

cuz gta 4 was ok but id still ply gta san andreas over it anytime
i borroed it from my friend a couple weeks ago nd i couldnt put it down

until i got Killzone 2

but if gta 4 isnt an exclusive then its gonna suck
unless the new xbox comes out but i doubt microsoft will actually take time with making it
itll be another cheap piece of plastic while Sony will be just over 100 million ps3 systems sold

[PimpHandHappy]

anyone that even thinks about this should shoot themselfs

[evrfighter]

"As a developer what would you like to be remembered as?"

In this day and age? I sure as hell wouldn't give a damn about how I was remembered as long as long as I could keep up the payments on a nice new house and a nice car or two.

I'm sure most of R* dev's probably feel the same.

[soxfan2005]

Interesting how PS3 fanboys say that Sony doesn't pay for exclusives. I guess Polyphony, Guerilla Games, Media Molecule, Konami, etc. make PS3 exclusives for free out of the goodness of their hearts.

[AB1992]

Sony owns Polyphony and Guerilla Games

[Veneno]

"The reason I think this will happen is because Rockstar stated awhile back that they did not like the storage limit for their game. They wanted to keep it on one disc, but to do this; they had to sacrifice much"

Like fun.

[Willio]

Although this article contained merely speculations as the named title hinted, the material of the subject fit the title. As a result, this "poorly written article" is still miles beyond hiphopcrap blogs.

[Hydrolex]

You 360 Owners are poor Bast4rds that dont wanna work and buy a PS3 to enjoy a better Grand Theft Auto.

ur fuking console limits GTA !!!! Cant u spend 100 more bucks and get the TRUE Gaming System

!!!! Micro$oft is awesome at stealing !!!

[original seed]

But this is no better.

[somekindofmike]

Multiple Disks causes restrictions in a free roaming game like GTA, because the games don't really have a linear structure, you might find yourself swapping from disk one to disk two and then back to disk one, then to disk two again, you get the point.

Imagine the game is split into two islands, one island is on one disk, and the other is on another disk, and you have to swap when travelling from one to another.

To solve this problem you could stage the game so that you're only on island 1 to begin with, and then move to island 2 and can't move back, kinda GTA1 style. but this is when technology starts to dictate the gaming structure and narrative, and although this wouldn't be the end of the world, developers do like to work with as much technical freedom as possible and the DVD9 just doesn't provide this.

At the same time, I'd still be surprised to see GTA5 as a PS3 exclusive as money is a very big factor in all these decisions.

Also GTA3 was 3 games last gen, GTA4 is current Gen, GTA5 probably won't be until the next Xbox, PS4 generation.

[TrueStoryGuy]

Rockstar has been bashing the 360 mainly because of it's disc space capacity, and this all happened just about when Sony announced a Rockstar PS3 exclusive title. The only real doubt that I have, is the DLC that the 360 got.

Now, I know that the DLC was paid for by Microsoft, but this also means that Rockstar has extra firsthand experience with the 360 by a whole year. If GTA5 was a PS3 exclusive, it'll be a pleasant surprise.

[Shepherd 214]

no one complained about the original MGS having 2 discs, suddenly its a crisis now.

[Danja]

MGS very linear game..on the PS1...that was over 10 years ago..

GTA4 open world game where u are free to do what ever u like...

..

how many games were on more than one disk on the original Xbox ?

now compare how many games are on 3 more disk on the 360 already...

[Hoggy1983]

I think N4G needs to review its "Gamer Zone". Especially when people are saying "f*ck the 360".

If theres a few PS3 owners who can have a decent debate I'm all ears.

My 2cents are. Rockstar will make more money by being on both platforms. There are loads of great games on the 360 which haven't been "held back" by the systems power. Looks a bit like Killzone 2 has made people think its still the era of the PS2. There are now 2 other consoles this generation, both with bigger install bases.

Just to placate the more rabid of you, I actually think the PS3 is a good system and hope to get one in the next few months. Anything to keep me off the N4G "comments" section

[InfectedDK]

I think GTA 5 will be exclusive to PS3.

[Deadman64]

does rockstar really want to miss out on a lot of money? Didnt GTA4 sell more copies on 360?

[Bnet343]

It wouldn't make sense but if Sony ponies up the cash, it will be exclusive.

[InfectedDK]

Correct. The exclusive dlc. for Xbox360 is gonna make up for that.
Also I think there is a possibility the next GTA will be made entirely for the PS3 because of the potential in it. Rockstar knows of the potential. Look at Killzone 2, Uncharted 2. The potential is big if they decide to make the game exclusive AND if they do and lets say it comes out in two years from now with superioer graphics to anything youve seen before wouldnt it make owners of the Wii and 360 buy a PS3? I think so! But it is pure speculation and nobody knows if they have the guts to make a superior GTA.

[Eiffel]

As much money as Rockstar made from the 360 version are you even serious with that statement?
I highly doubt it anyway because the 360 may become the predecessor as of next year.

And its already been announced no GTA 5 this year.

Edit: 4 disagrees...who let the fanboys out their cage?
Is it the word "predecessor"?
Meaning:"Something that has been succeeded by another" I'll try not to use difficult words next time.

[ape007]

with gta 4 is to make to utilize the ps3 power and blu-ray

this is interview with sam houser in 2005(with all respect to him)

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

n4g's respected members,please watch it.ok

sony secure GTA 5 PLLZZZZ,IT WILL BE THE BIGGEST STEP IN THIS GEN,sony will garuntee 7 + million ps3 sold just for this game alone.SONY THINK ABOUT IT.THINK.THINK.THINKKKK,you know what gta means to us and specially me

don't let ms take the deal and optimise it for 360 pool without exceeding dvd 9

I respect Rockstar north or DMA design since their amazing classic body harvest on n64

Im a huge gta fan,I want it ps3 exclusive,don't get me wrong is 36- had blu-ray and ps3 had dvd9,I would say make it 360 exclusive

SIZE MATTERS+CELL PROCESSOR THIS IS OPEN WORLD....

im sorry to write a lot in caps,I just love gta,it's one of my favorite games ever

[somekindofmike]

@ InfectedDK

Say even if GTA5 was a PS3 exclusive it would never be graphically the most amazing game ever due to the nature of creating an open world game.

Compare GTA3 and the PS2 sequels to Gran Turismo on PS2, they just don't compare graphically! purely because Gran Turismo can specialise on creating a world built for high speed driving within a restricted area. Grand Theft Auto has to look good while driving slowly, driving fast, walking, shooting, running, swimming, flying, from great distances to really up close. This means compromises have to be made to make it work.

Not saying it won't look great, it just definitely won't be the prettiest game out.

[table]

the scale and of the game could be massive and the graphics potentially incredible. microsoft may need to throw many more millions at Rockstar if they want to prevent this. It would be a shame if microsoft holds back this game.

[MONOLITHICIDE]

exactly, i heard something that GTA5 will be an MMO, and the PS3 could handle that with awesome graphics, physics and gameplay. If Rockstar wanted to improve there Baby it would need to be exclusive, but these Xbox fanboys think it all about cash, you know developers want to make a great game as well and improve and add things, and money is involved but i rockstar is gonna do something great it would have to be only on playstation

[Jamegohanssj5]

You're joking right Mono? About the MMO thing?

TGSI

[Why dis]

LOL PS3 has trouble with GTA4 the PS3 version of GTA4 is graphically inferior but whatever. lol

Speaking of being held back APB(MMO) looks better than GTA4 and APB does not have PS3's hardware in mind.

EDIT: Disagree? Saying RS can get a better product from the PS3 by itself when it can't even match its competition is ludicrous

[Veneno]

The xbox version is clearly inferior. It is more jaggy, has tons of pop-in environments and textures, and is graphically inferior compared to ps3 becaause the ps3 version has HDR lighting and has more lighting effects. Just drive a car in the sunlight in each version and you will see that the cars in the ps3 version have more reflections and lighting effects. But the game was a let down anyway so Rockstar should just keep it multi-plat because people will buy it anyway.

[Argento-Nox]

@3.3 Why Dis

Did you happen to miss the article where Sam Houser said that dvd was not enough for what RS want to do with GTA5? Unless 360 will allow multiple disc for GTA5, it could be a PS3 exclusive due to the space issue.

360 fanboys might want to check into the attach rate that their using as the new status quo for games like SO4 and Yazuka 3 now, maybe they'll note that the attach rate for GTA4 is better on the PS3 before they mouth off about the numbers sold.

[Tiberium]

Haha good one. You'd have to be pretty stupid to buy both versions. Even if the 360 version has a few anti-aliasing issues, it still is the only console version to offer TRUE HD 720p. The ps3 version is at alower resolution natively and upscaled to 720p.
of course we've been over this already and fanboys can argue whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Unicron]

Exclusives are dying. There is no reason for a third party title to really be exclusive in this day and age. Games are too expensive to make. That includes everything from GTA5 to Lost Planet 2 to Final Fantasy XIII.

First party exclusives and the rare paid for deal are going to be the future as long as consoles are close in install base.

[Argento-Nox]

If that was the case, making games like Infinite Undiscovery and SO4 exclusives on the 360 is a pretty stupid idea then. Guess GeOW and ME should just go multi-platform as well.

[ZuperAmazingCooKie]

As for SO4 and Infinite Undiscovery, Unicron explicitly stated:

"...and the rare paid for deal..."

You don't read much, do you?

[Sonyslave3]

wtf yeah gta 5 is ps3 exclusive and gonna sale 3 million copies at max

[DavidMacDougall]

By the time its out the PS3 will have its price cut if not two and will be right beside the 360

[Le Idiotce]

Yes, when GTA4 came out, PS3 was at 10 million units worldwide.

They are now at 22 million units worldwide. OWNED!
Things have changed, xbot. The tables have turned. The 360 is done for. MS firing the XBOX division en masse. The 360 is still bleeding red. Bungie is gone and Halo OST is going to be their last Halo project. Halo wars have failed and Ensembles dont care because they are Robotnik now. Mass effect 2 is going to be multi platform. Gears of wars 2 was a big lie and unplayable and Uncharted dominates it. Maybe thats why Gears of wars 2 sales are so disappointing so far? Hahaha the 360 world is getting smaller and smaller.
Reality is catching up to you bots.

What you gonna do when reality comes for you. What you gonna do, what you gonna do, what you gonna do hahaha.

The reality is that PS3 has barely begun flexing its muscles. 2 years out, massive amount of triple As on the release list, massively improved online, pricecuts, Blu Ray, the 360 is shiatting in its pants right now.

[War Perfected]

Please do it Rockstar,don't let the inferior Xbox 360 hold you back from creating a real next-gen Grand Theft Auto game!!

[The gaming GOD]

The reason this is even being "debated" is because Sam Houser came out and said the 360's disc size and storage might make it impossible for them to put the next GTA on the 360.

This is being debated because of the the developers themselves said this. Not some blogger, not some "game journalist", one of the creators said it.

[The gaming GOD]

Here is the link to PROVE it

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

P.S.- Make sure you READ it. I say that because I know how some of you love to read headlines and nothing beyond it. Especially if it's good news about the "other" console.

[kosovo]

i think rockstar knows that with PS3 you can acheive more.
if not that M$ went on with their stupid strategy of payin for games, it would never have been made for the sh@tbox.

Developers should now look beyound QUANTITY but QUALITY.
with 360 in the picture, you can never get QUALITY.

m just me and no one else, just another dude in da crips waiting for 'HEAVY RAIN' to fall.

UNBUBBLE +
cheers

[maverick1191]

wow wheres the xbox boys saying hell no MS will buy the rights for it to be xbox exclusive it should be on the ps3 only although GTA is good but with blu ray on it with more space it will shine even more

[BenCrazy424]

If they need more room, can't they use more then one disk?

[The gaming GOD]

But it all depends on how they program. Not every game is playable through multiple discs like that.

[PirateThom]

Multiple discs for an open world game will just not work. Going from one island to the other... "please insert disc x" and they'd then have to make sure the missions didn't drift from island to island as they sometimes can to reduce the disc swapping. They can do it, but it's going to cause a broken experience.

As for GTA5, I'm done with the series, bought into the GTA4 hype and will probably just ignore the series from now on.

[reaferfore20]

Every GTA was better than it's predecessor until it went multiplat. Coincidence?? Yeah right.

[gta2800]

What are you talking about? All previous GTA's were multi platform. Vice City got a separate release on the xbox a year after it was released on the PS2, and so did San Andreas. GTA 3 was also released in 03 in a double pack for the xbox. So I don't know what's this, predecessors were exclusive talk.

[reaferfore20]

GTA: Made on PC ported to PS1
GTA2: Made on PC ported to PS1 and DC
GTA3: Made on PS2 ported to PC and Xbox
VC: Made on PS2 ported to Xbox and PC.
SA: Made on PS2 ported to Xbox and PC again.
GTA4: Made on PS3 and 360 simultaneously ported to PC.

I might not be exactly right on the porting and main development but when all of the games before GTA4 came out they were exclusive be it for only a little while and every single one of them was better than the one before it.

[mrdxpr2]

I say they arent going exclusive but i think Rockstar will make exclusive content on ps3 cause of space i imagine they will make the game on ps3 first and make the game how they want it and have everything and then they should port to 360 the stuff that fits and make it play as smooth as they can... soo they will make money and get what they want... and with the parts that are on the ps3 version they can add them to 360 or 720 by DLC its cool...

[MrJack]

Sales, or quality?

The disc limitations were a major problem for Rockstar devs, with them gone, we could see the game become as good as GTA:SA.

[reaferfore20]

Or they could just make a brand new IP that hasn't been beat to death like GTA.

[Deviant]

wont happen ..too expensive :(

[hfaze]

True, game development is very expensive this generation...

But it is possible for a third party developer to make a PS3 exclusive title and still make money... Just look at Metal Gear Solid 4.

MGS4 has sold 4.5 million copies worldwide at full price, and it is getting the "Greatest Hits" collection price drop soon...

[Why dis]

You'd have to be flippin mad(crazy fanatic) to think this game could be exclusive to any platform lol.

[DaTruth]

It came from Houser himself.

[kcdude]

I find this unlikely. Sales were good for GTA IV on the Xbox 360. Besides, Microsoft would probably bribe them another 50 million or more just to prevent that from happening.

[Camper]

Sony would have to pay at least 300-500 millions for GTA exclusive
I dont see this happening

[reaferfore20]

What??

[TruthBTold]

Is that you Dr. Evil??

[-EvoAnubis-]

There's a good chance it'll be PS3 exclusive. R* does what they want to do. When it comes to their games, it's usually a matter of making them the best possible game that they can be. DVD9 just can't handle that, and don't give me the multiple disk crap; the game would be broken. People like to bring up the whole VC and GTA3 loading screens, but seem to forget that even the PSP GTAs in those cities didn't have that issue.

They're going to want to move forward. They're going to want to make a bigger game area. They're going to want to have more things to do. And they're going to want it to look damn pretty. None of that can be done on DVD9.

[reaferfore20]

They're also going to need a HDD to dump that data on.

[-EvoAnubis-]

You never know. Killzone 2 didn't.

[reaferfore20]

Well for an open world type of game I'd think they'd make use of the HDD. But you never know...

[Sonyslave3]

yeah by 2012

[ELite_Ghost]

idiot...

[komp]

OK. My wifey works for R*, I have yet to hear of anything regarding this, if that helps and I usually know whats going on both now and in the future :)

[The gaming GOD]

How can anyone agree OR disagree with what he just said. Does anyone know him or his wife personally to verify?

People here are ridiculous sometimes

[komp]

18.1

Yes anyone who knows me will verify it.

Ask VamphuntD on here for one!

[komp]

LOL i forgot. I can show you something myself

read this

http://www.vgwatchdog.com/?...

thanks.

[The gaming GOD]

I was just pointing out the random person that disagreed with you.

[komp]

Gaming_God lol.

but seriously I know lots of things coming in the future. The misses was also asked to do some mo-cap for an upcoming game.... wait and see :)

[The gaming GOD]

In that case, tell them to make you look good or you'll slap a juicy lawsuit on them :)

[Jay Jay]

What does your wifey do at Rockstar komp?

See my problem isn't the fact I don't believe you it's the fact that she tells you things when she's signed a contract saying she's not allowed to.

[komp]

@ 10.7

Thats right she is not allowed to speak outside the company about products, she has an NDA as you rightly say.

One thing you can be sure of (note i also work in TV and have many NDA's) is that my website will never reveal confidential IP no matter what / how juicy it is.

R* has many places of development here and in the UK. Just remember that when reading what I am saying.

As a side note does anyone actually remember this article

http://www.computerandvideo...

Maybe that will have a bearing on what your all missing?

[farhsa2008]

If gta 5 is as bad as gta 4, I would be ashamed to have it on PS3

[redsnake]

actually they said the new grand theft auto 8 would be ps3 exclusive implying it might not be 5 but similar to vice city or w.e. this conformation was before the release of gta4

[Snake Raiser]

What this guy is trying to say is that the 8th GTA game (if you include San Andreas, PSP games, ect) will be a PS3 exclusive.

[DJ]

So there's no reason for Rockstar to go exclusive towards either one. In order to counter the high quality of current and future PS3 Exclusives, Rockstar may be forced to have two development teams work in tandem on the next GTA title. This would allow the PS3 version to properly compete against PS3 exclusives by utilizing Cell, Blu-ray, and the HDD in a more proper manner. Xbox 360 owners would also get the same game, but adjusted to fit the limits of the 360 Hardware.

This way, they'd be able to maximize profits on both consoles and keep both PS3 and 360 owners happy.

[Rhezin]

a GTA exclusive to a console! Sh!t that will definately move units. LOOK at the demand for Lost and The Damned, its exlusive to 360, but look how many people love a new chapter in the GTA franchise. I think this Sony will shell out the money just as M$ did for 2 8-10 hour episodes. Rockstar has shown their love for M$ even with the risk of making it exclusive in midst of this recession. How is it so impossible to believe that GTA:V will be playstation 3 exclusive? Well it's not...

[psnSkareFace]

maybe timed like gta:sa or dlc

[poeo]

i don't believe it will be PS3 exclusive, but it's not entirely impossible.

think about it, it's obvious Rockstar are passionate about their franchise, and it's obvious they will want to outdo GTAIV next time. they don't SOLELY care about the money, they care about their product too. so, will one DVD still really be enough? really? i mean we're probably talking about 2011, or 2012. i mean.. come on. and PS3 install base is already big enough to support it, and if it was announced exclusive, then surely that would make the PS3 even more popular. i seriously don't think it would be that big of a risk for Rockstar. it would HAVE to pay out for them, if they really went all out and created a 50gb GTA universe tailored for the PS3's architecture (would look A LOT better than GTAIV if they only focused on getting everything out of the SPU's etc)... who could resist a game like that? WHO?

my hopes aside though, i do think the most likely outcome is probably GTAV being multiplatform, and multiple discs on 360. (Microsoft WILL give a green light to that, if Rockstar wants to make it bigger than 1 DVD). anyway i think Rockstar will figure out what's best for their franchise, i have faith it will be a great game no matter what, and that it will have more content than GTAIV. (i loved GTAIV for what it was though, just needed a few more buildings to go into and little things like that).

[DaTruth]

After GTA4, people are having their doubts if Rockstar do know what's best for the franchise. I enjoyed the game(still enjoying), but I understand what people's problem is with it.

Sometimes I just run and jump in front of cars.
Sometimes I go to neighborhoods where tensions run high, start a gun battle, than call the police and watch all hell break loose.
Sometimes I just drive around the city, having gun battles while driving with police(love the new driveby mechanic).

That's what GTA4 is all about, it's like the seinfeld of games, a game about nothing. People just gave up too early.

[SpoonyRedMage]

I heard Sony paid for Disgaea 3 to be exclusive to the PS3. So GTA V could be as well.

I think it'd be possible to have vast improvements on GTA V whilst on the 360, two discs should be enough, but they'd have to cut off Disc one missions when you get on to disc 2, like The Last Remnant.

[Major_Tom]

I doubt it. Rockstar can make plenty of sales off of two systems. The space argument is a little far-fetched. Rockstar will make it fit regardless of compression techniques.

If not they'll make it two discs and have it similar to Last Remnant on the 360.

[SAiOSiN]

if it's gonna be anything like gta4 then it can be exclusive to wii for all i care. i doubt gta5 will be exclusive to ps3. but who knows...anything can happen.

[SAiOSiN]

btw...people are talking about two discs...how would that work with an open world game???

[SpoonyRedMage]

You have all the environments on both discs but the missions, cutscenes and stuff are only on each disc. The Last Remnant did it, although it wasn't openworld.

[hfaze]

Mandatory install on the 360? ;-)

[Sin-CityGamer]

We will just have to wait and see. I'd rather settle for an official word from Rockstar to avoid all this speculation and fanboy arguments... Exclusive or not, I'm pretty sure its just all business...

[Tony P]

Big fan of the 'wait and see' as well.

My personal thoughts on the subject say why would the series suddenly go exclusive after NEVER having been exclusive? As mentioned before, money is also a factor as distasteful as it seems. I don't see them cutting themselves off from what was a large source of revenue in the 360 and PC.

[CobraKai]

Why would it not be. GTA was multiplatform from part 3. Sure it came out on the xbox a year later but it still came out. They sold more copies of GTA when released on both systems why would they stop now? They only way I'd see it go PS3 only is if they make a world so mammoth that the 360 would need 5 dvds to compensaate.

[XDF]

This is a Sony Fanboys wetdream, of course it will not be PS3 exclusive, no way in God's Green Earth will that happen, unless Sony pays 6 hundred millons.

Well, with this talk about GTA5 going PS3 exclusive, won't it be funny at this year E3, Microsoft shock the world again by announcing GTA5 as a X360 exclusive. Money talks and Microsoft has $$$ and Sony don't. Microsoft did paid $50 millions on 2 DLCs so what makes you think they won't go all out and just buy GTA5. Think about this for a second.

This Place will explode if another Megaton like this happen again like FF13 last year.

[pippoppow]

Having Blu-ray as a storage medium has it's benefits, especially for an open sandbox type game. If Rockstar wanted to make a game 2x bigger it would have to be on two DVD discs on the 360. Now imagine every time swapping a disc when going from one half of the map to another. It wouldn't work well and would be an annoyance. While I personally don't care for the series, I believe, for the series to progress and increase in quality it should be solely on a PS3 and/or PC.

[Superduper09]

According to the US Playstation blog, it'll be a new franchise from Take Two and it's not LA.Noire nor GTA 5.

[Charlie_Shene]

I would be supprised if GTA5 was ps3 Excluzive and rockstar contuinied DLC for gta 4

[wwedx]

I think games should be developed on the ps3 then ported to the xbox 360 cuz right now games are being developed on the 360 and then being ported to the ps3 games would be better if they were developed on the ps3s

[The Dude]

GTA 5 will be on the xbox 720 and ps4 its done this gen.

[IncredibleGames]

Rockstar is not going to make it a pure exclusive to one system....they are making too much money with multiplatforms

[Merritt]

2 opinions by F'ing nobodies. Who cares. Shyte I hate the intertube.

[Tristanh82]

people kept saying wel it wont be a ps3 exclusive because the xbox sold more copies, but thats becaue your only thinking about how big the xbox is at the moment by the time GTA5 is out PS3 will be way past sales of the 360 so then there would no pont develping it for the xbox when the main market is ps3....just my dig

[kws1065]

GTA IV with 50G size. What could it be...NY state? Several cities each with a size of recent GTA IV?

Anyway, the idea of MP is nothing but the money, so I can't expect any better, and that's why I am playing first-party games as many as possible rather than playing MPs.

[superrey19]

People have suggested that using multiple dvds for the
360 version wouldn't be a big deal as long as all the content was in there. Um, what will happen when u get a mission that requires u to travel to a part of the map that is located on the second dvd? Ok pop the second dvd in... oops now u have to go back to the place where u originally got the mission, pop the 1st dvd in again. See the pattern? multiple dvds would be the most annoying thing ever in a GTA game and in any sandbox game in general.

[SpoonyRedMage]

The mission would only be on disc 1 or 2 but the environment would be on both discs. Oh look damn, I only had to change disc once and it took ten seconds.

[Raider69]

maybe yes,maybe no!but my opinion is this,first a new GTA5 wont be release before 2011 or 2012 since the normal window to produce such a massive game is 2 to 3 years development!GTA5 will be release to the new XBOX 720 and PS3 or PS4! them there will not be no restrainings for this game to go multiplatform!!until them all you going to see is DLC for GTA 4 !and Sony will have to pay like M$ for the DLC too!

[gersh]

Oh, how the Xbots would LOVE for that to happen lol.

[Minimox16]

Almost everyone its saying that GT4 make more sale in xbox360 than PS3, so one GTA make a little more sales on xbox360 that PS3? ok but what happen to GT3, and GT vice city and GTA San Andreas, I want to ask where those game sold more? I just want you to compare, (all xbot that thinks that sales decide everything) the sales of GTA San Andreas of PS2 and the GTA San Andreas on Xbox, who console sold more? and what if the difference of sales between both? Thanks!!!

On topic, I believe that it could make a Sony exclusive :D

[devilhunterx]

It wont be a PS3 exclusive. The PS3 version will come on 1 bluray and the XB2 version will have first 10 mission on dvd and then rest you will have to pay as DLC

[DelbertGrady]

If you consider the money they spent on developing the RAGE engine for GTA IV I highly doubt it will go PS3 exclusive. GTA IV had a budget of over $300 million. Also consider that The Lost & the Damned DLC is the best selling DLC ever on XBL. Would they want to miss out on the possible revenue garnered from XBL? Or the money MS paid them to do it?

My sensible guess is that GTA V will be multiplatform and will run on an updated version of the RAGE engine.

[PirateThom]

GTAIV cost $100m to make.

To put that into perspective, the previous holder, Shenmue cost $70m.

Too Human is estimated at around $70m

Metal Gear Solid 4 and Killzone 2 are around $50-60m

Basically, GTAIV really set the cost barrier.

[DelbertGrady]

You are right. Don't know where I got $300 million from. Still the most expensive game ever made.

I doubt GTA V will be exclusive though. Can't see what they would benefit from it. Some argue that the storage capacity of Blu-Ray would be the reason but I'm not so sure about that. I had no problems with the sheer size or graphics of GTA IV, the problem was with the gameplay.

[thehitman]

If Take2 wants more money and dont care about whether their game has reached full potential then it will stay multiplatform. If rockstar really wants the most out of gta5 then I can see it on a timed exclusive for the ps3 where they take full advantage of BR and the ps3 and eventually make a dumbed down port later.

[NateDPG]

If Rockstar wants to really improve on GTA4, then yeah GTA5 hast to be exclusive.

[madmike]

the time gta 5 comes out will be for the xbox720 and ps4 you are looking at 3 to 4 years for a next gta game so lets leave it for now

[VeRKK]

GTA will come there will bo no new xbox (since it seems that it takes around a year and a half to make a really solid game,even though they have the entire engine\city working properly).

[aggh im on fire]

By the time GTA5 actually comes out (around 3 years time at least judging by past game development) the next xbox will be out which will no doubt have blue ray so its a argument that holds no water. There is no way GTA is staying true to one console now, same goes for lots of other games. The only exclusives that are going to be left in a few years are the ones made by Sony/ Microsoft and Nintendo.

[Foxgod]

Rockstar itself doesnt agree with this article, because they even decided to make LA Noir multi.

[Gun_Senshi]

GTA Franchise is overrated.

[BigBad316]

I cannot see GTA5 coming to this gen of console because usually when rockstar increases the number then they change the graphics engine of the game. It's more likely be a gta4 Vice city or something based around chicago city. Yes it might not say well PS3 exclusive for the simple fact you can get more on a blu-ray more than 3time on a small disc then that of a dvd. Rockstar said after make gta4 they found it hard get all they wanted on the dvd disc of the xbox360 which kind of made the game limited in the scale size the really wanted Liberty City the city was probably ment to be bigger. I think the only way it would come to xbox360 on one disc would be if it had a massive installation base on the hard drive of about 15gb still quite alot of xbox owners have got had drives and the 20gb only give you really 12gb of space. 60gb is 52gb. it would be easier especially now they already programed for the PS3 sould be easier

[zag]

I hope GTA5 is only on the PS3 as GTA 4 sucked, I also hope they make it like GTA3 you know free to do as you plase do some missions when you want instead of a mobile ringing every 5 bloody mins then when you don't answer the same person rings back then conpkains about how you didn't answer the phone and that your've screwed up the mission.

Bloody worse than a wife needing to call you all the time.

[TheMART]

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By the time its out the PS3 will have its price cut if not two and will be right beside the 360"

Damn I've heard this many times the last 2.5 years. So when is this gonna happen? 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012 when the next gen consoles are there?

Dude, there is a 8 mln. gap, even if Sony doubles their sales with a LARGE pricedrop (read not 50 Euro or Dollar, but 100 or more) then it'll take 2 years before they're just on par with the 360 which also will keep selling in the mean time.

And you know what Microsoft does, right? If Sony lowers, MS will have their pricecut. It'll allways remain the console with the price advantage, thus the mass of people will buy it more then the direct competition.

You fail. The PS3 will stay PS3rd this gen.

Furthermore, GTA5 won't go exclusive. Sony said themselves, they don't pay for exclusives. GTA4 sold more on the 360 then the PS3, so cutting 360 support would be cutting profits. Thats a crazy business decision which Rockstart certainly won't make.

@ idiotce

"
They are now at 22 million units worldwide. OWNED!
Things have changed, xbot. The tables have turned. The 360 is done for. MS firing the XBOX division en masse"

Well yeah and? Sony is firing even more people. Which tables have turned? The 360 is still 8mln units ahead in sales. PLUS the PS3 sales fell after september in comparison to same periodes last year. 360 sales have risen for example for January 2009 compared to January 2008.

Game sales on PS3 still stink. The biggest franchises, LBP and Resistance 2 with Christmas just sold good, not great. Unlike 360 games, they sell like hot cakes fast. Money isn't made on the PS3, its made on the 360.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

mart you can have gta 5 . play 2 hours of gta4 and return it . people make to much deal out of GTA . its another fkn game people .

[Johnny Jiron]

But if they are worried about storage space couldn,t they possibly make it two discs but make the 2nd disc an install only thing? Sure it could alienate those with small hard-drives, but no more alienating than making it ps3 exclusive.

Anyways this method is no different than the Lost and the Damn DLC. Asobo shows its possible to make endless vasts of land onto a single disc. So they could make it as big as they wanted populate it with whatever than add key things to make it all work onto a second disc. Or something like that...

I don't know how it all works so maybe my idea is impossible. But it sounds plausible...

[chrisuk]

During the recession, this will be VERY unlikely.

[CAPT IRISH]

After gta 4, I dont care anymore.

[JOEdANGEL]

If GTA5 were to come to Ps3 exclusively because of storage space, that would be a huge coup on sony's part on the necessity of blu-ray. Personally I don't think that is going to happen. If Gta5 is made in this generation of consoles, it'll be multiplatform. They've already had resounding success with this current business model, so it would be a foolish move to go back to exclusivity.

[Tony P]

"go back to exclusivity"

What am I missing here? When was GTA ever exclusive? It has always been on multiple platforms as far as I know.

[ps3gamerkyle]

GTA 5 would never be PS3 exclusive anymore. R* figured out that they can justify production on both consoles, with the help of Microsoft's deep pockets. (exclusive DLC anyone?)

[ForROME]

Being that GT4 wasnt much of a game, Vice City is my last real memory of a great GT, I could care less, if they come out with another exclusive to one or that other

I think the days of GT are over, or atleast have been greatly minimized

[mastiffchild]

As I understood it when GTA4 was announced as a multi Sony and R* put in place a 3 game deal for exclusives but NONE were to be GTA games but, more than likely new IP. LA Noire was never said/confirmed PS3 exclusive at any time(people just assumed because of the deal)but Rockstar have many studios and alongside the DLC that MS paid for(which likely as well as being part of an already out game, took precedence for now)will be working on the promised Sony exzclusives RDR may be one but for the other two we'll just have to wait and see.

Also, will the next lot of GTA4 DLC be 360 only as there's very conflisting stories on that, and even if there may be two more packs-one exclusive to each console!
There's so much said about R* games but, truth is, they'll honour the deals they have with Sony and MS. They did say they wanted to make a really big game to make use of the blu ray AND they'll still support their MS commitments so noone should be gloating right now as all these games will arrive and knowing Rockstar they'll also be pretty good too.

[MGRogue2017]

Some of you are making this look like Rockstar Games hates Microsoft.. & are only making gta on the 360 for the money...

That is so not true, Otherwise they wouldn't be playing with xbox live players on Lost & Damned on the Xbox 360..

[JohnnyChimpo]

you guys chat about these numbers like you are fully aware of the situations going on in both the MS and Sony divisions. Let me blunt with you, YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS! You don't know sh!t, you wish you knew sh!t, and google is the only way you guys can ever learn anything.

Just because you are able to google sales and data for both MS and Sony does not make you a wise informant, it makes you an idiot who spends to much time scouring information on the net, and you have yet to be informed that the net is full of CRAP! It's full of peoples opinions and bullshit that you must sift through before digging up some sort of truthfull evidence. Please do yourselves, and the world a favour and can all the crap that spills out of your mouths. NEWS UPDATE.... the only people who care are YOU!!!!

[r1sh12]

no main game is ever going to be exclusive, rockstar would loose too much money..
DLC is another story, there will be excluse to one of the consoles..
Hydrolex youre so naive, you say 360 users are poor.
is that why they are enjoying the new DLC, and youre still playing gta IV..
you clown, think before you speak!
the 360 still has one more exclsuive dlc, which is comning soon. sony has made record losses, and you telling 360 users are poor, maybe its spending moey wiesly..
until the ps3 drops in price im not getting one...

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

to be more enjoyable than GTA4... I by no means care what system GTA5 comes to, this series lost all my interest with how lack luster 4 was. With my most fav. PS3 franchise bringing its 2nd game (Uncharted) and KZ2... not to mention a series Im getting into a little late (GOW 1&2), Im not worried about another GTA game... and I don't think it will ever be gracing my 60gig!

[Jay Jay]

I'm posting here as I couldn't reply on the other page.

komp what I'm trying to say is just by telling you things she's breached her contract. I know this because me and my girlfriend have both signed the same contract.

Its not a great idea saying you know things on an open forum because I know that forums are checked regularly by R*

Just a little friendly advice thats all.

[JohnnyChimpo]

Why are you so stoked that you bought an incomplete game, and now are paying more money to get the content that they decided to sell seperate!?

There's nothing to be happy about DLC, it's extra sh!t that should have been in the game when you first dished out $60, your getting ripped off and bragging about it, your a fool!!!

[tee_bag242]

Quite simply if rockstar want to raise the benchmark on this series they are going to need more disc space - as Rockstar have stated, they sure could use it. Should they not, its likely GTA5 is going to be pretty similar to GTA4, Lost and Damned etc

The risk Rockstar run by limiting their creativity in the name of space restrictions is that they are no longer pushing the gaming envelope. This also creates vulnerabilities as they could be outshone by another random sandbox game that isn't prepared comply with space restrictions.

Yes multiplatformers have the short term capacity to generate more sales/money - and it sounds logical to many people because it's true.

However, should the process of multiplatforming cause GTA/Rockstars Brand Reputation, Goodwill and Image to take a hit.
It will also equate a loss in sales over the long term.
Judging from this thread, it appears there is already much disappointment with GTA4 from loyal customers

So, unless there is another console out at the time of GTA5's inception it is not unreasonable to suggest that it may not make it to 360. Should this not be the case I don't expect offer anything drastically different to GTA4 and the other add-ons that follow.

[Eternally33]

Gta 5 sony exclusive.

[Eternally33]

Sony exclusive indeed.