360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake

Alan Wake seems to be in its mid stages of development if it is to be released this year, but we still haven't seen much about the game. The few bits that we've seen on the game have been amazing and leaving us craving for more. If Microsoft can deliver this game with its pre-rendered visuals as real-time, then it will certainly blow Killzone 2 out of the water. All we can do now is wait for its release, or hopefully we have a demo treatment from Microsoft.

[HighDefinition]

Alan NEEDS to WAKE UP, before those claims get made.

[GWAVE]

My question is this: where's the proof? "Teh cell" has been proving itself since the days of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, and so forth. Alan Wake is little more than a tech demo right now, and it's optimized to run on PC, anyway. What a silly headline and even sillier article.

Slam "disagree" all you kids want, but instead of spending the time hitting disagree, why don't you spend the time linking some footage of the game running on the 360, or footage that's newer than 2006 for that matter?

[Aclay]

LOL, from the little that has been shown of Alan Wake everything has been from the PC version. No one even knows how good the 360 version will even look.

Heavy Rain's screenshots look just as good as the Alan Wake PC screenshots. It's more like "PS3's Cell Processor Power Challenges PC version of Alan Wake."

Until Remedy actually attends a Game Convention and shows off the 360 version of Alan Wake or until they reveal more info for the 360 version, not much can be said about the 360 "challenging the PS3's power" unless there's more proof.

[JokesOnYou]

What proof is needed?...its his opinion. Many of his previous headlines didn't offer any "proof", just "heres what I *think based on this"= more opinions.

I said before that I don't agree with many of hiphopgamers assertions but he is entertaining, which is mostly why his "news" and headlines don't bother me...you gotta take it with a grain of salt....even here he says the keyword "*IF -Microsoft can deliver this game with its pre-rendered visuals as real-time, then it will certainly blow Killzone 2 out of the water." -yeah why not? like I said games progress throughout a consoles life cycle, there will be better looking games on both consoles, already Gears has better texture then KZ2 and its been out longer, RE5 a multiplat easily holds it own, and early LP2 in-game vids rivals KZ2, except for particle effects imo, still think KZ2 has that edge but hey its still early 'n either way the graphics look superp so far for LP2.

Anyway why is this news reported as lame while so many other "flamebait" headlines from hiphopgamer.com have been approved, worst by many of the same ones who comment positively on those other posts from the same source...lmfao, I just glad to get a good laugh today as we get yet more "proof" of how hypocritical MOST sony loyalists on n4g are. I bet some of you same ones who supported some of his previous posts are so mad right now you're seriously contemplating going on a "witchhunt" for hiphopgamer now. lmfao you guys are so fcking funny.

Lets assume sony loyalists are right, its impossible that anything on 360 will ever beat KZ2, the part I don't get is why not just state your disagreement with this news and move on, but NOW all of a sudden with his latest claim "he's gone too far" lmfao, talk about a bunch of brand lovers, it sounds like fear, almost as if you would cry if it happens, lolz you guys are a riot, so transparent, right now at work I'm trying not to laugh too loud so they can't hear me in the other offices. Keep it coming.

JOY

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

I don't know much about Alan Wake, but Gears of War 2 looked amazing to me. So did KZ2. At the end of the day, reality is that the differences is really minimal... and that game play prevails.

Just take a look at online stats, Halo 3 is still among the top 5 games played on Live over a year later. So is CoD 4!

Ask those people if they cared that Gears 2 is among the best looking game on 360... nope, they are playing Halo 3/CoD4.

[drewdrakes]

After 30 minutes graphics dont matter to me. It could be cell shaded for all I care. Crackdown looked nice because of its partial cell shading.

[Powertesties]

Did you know that the Cell CPU and the 360 CPU are equals power wise?

Oh yes, it is true according to the director of both CPU's at IBM.

Might be hard to stomach.

[Sarcasm]

Pretty bold claims considering nobody's seen the 360 version. And not to mention the latest trailer has some average character animations even for a high end PC.

Anybody want to see some super insane fluid life-like animations? See Exhibit "God of War III"

[WhittO]

Maybe, but the PS3 has 7 SPU's aswell as the main CPU, the 360, doesnt.

[Lifendz]

Heavy Rain has been displayed at length and we still have nothing on Alan Wake other than hopes and speculation.

[Jinxstar]

@ Drewdrakes

High Rez Crackdown Screens

http://punchbutton.beloblog...

http://nukoda.com/wp-conten...

looks ok. Now look at these

http://talkplaystation.com/...

http://www.dailygame.net/ne...

Big difference imo... Thats what you get when you go PS3 exclusive openworld game...

[kevoncox]

There is nothing I have seen of Alan Wake that tells me it's an amazing game. It doesn't even look that good. Why is everyone so hyped about this game? Its all potential!

Moving on. Most of the PS3 "graphical power" stem from the ability of Sony's developers. They are very talanted and very stylized. Give the 360 same developers and they will make the 360 dance in ways you have never seen. Unfortunatly, we will never know because all the amazing games are PS3 exclusive...

However, i find it not coicendence that a game like FF13 was once thought unattainable on the 360 and now it's multiplat it's seen as no big deal. I honestly, believe that the 360 can do a game like Killzone but they will have to reprogram. Developers are the driving forces in the industry this gen, not the machines themselves.

[Rapture333]

Watching this demo I thought it was beautiful, I was surprised to see it wasn't on the PC! Until of course, I came here and learned it was. That's a sale!

[marinelife9]

Hip Hop must have forgotten that was PC footage.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Jinxster: Did you just compare a 2.5 year old game to a game that isn't even out yet?

Crackdown was a top notch game to many and one of the most fun sandbox games this gen. When I look at Infamous I see a Crackdown clone with lightening. I don't know much about the game itself so I base this just off gameplay videos.

[Amanosenpai]

;)

[mpmaley]

EXACTLY @ PC Version.

I don't think we've actually seen non PC pics.

[Xi]

IMO crackdown looks as good.

http://media.herald-dispatc...

not to mention, you're comparing a 2.5 year old game with one that isn't even released yet.

[GameGambits]

Alan Wake from what we have seen and told about it, which isn't much, seems...fail like. It's going to take an elaborate amount of new details, in game footage, a demo on marketplace, and an unprecidented amount of marketing to make me think differently.

I'm all for games surprising me to turn out great when I thought it would be nothing great, but it generally takes a demo at the LEAST for that encouragement to occur. Perfect example is Tom Clancy's HAWX.

[xwabbit]

Powertesties how can having 2 CPU's be the same as having 7 ?

[Diugu]

Its weird to say things like those when you know nothing about the game.

Hard to understand the way these lunatics think hehehe

[Xi]

it's 3 cpus each with 2 cores (6cores total) which are hyperthreaded.

compared to 9 spe's (cores) with 1 dedicated to os functions and 2 dedicated to overflow.

however, most graphics functions are done by the gpu.

[40cal]

Show and prove time ladies and gentlemen.

[Spydiggity]

lets go into a ps3 article and see how many 360 fanboys there are trolling their forums?

but here...there's at least twice as many sony fanboys as 360 owners. it's like you guys brag about and over-hype every upcoming sony game that at this point you should have dozens of great games you could be playing, and yet you still have nothing better to do than troll forums on games that have nothing to do with you.
you're so afraid all that boasting you did about killzone might get challenged by a 360 game that you have to storm the forums in droves to collectively stop the spread of pro 360 information with your anti-ms, pro-sony propaganda.

you people say the dumbest most unfounded stuff too like Lifendz, for example, who said "1.11 - Amazing
Heavy Rain has been displayed at length and we still have nothing on Alan Wake other than hopes and speculation. "
that's not true at all. we've seen an in game technical demonstration of alan wake in real time. we haven't got that from heavy rain. we've seen are a couple VERY scripted, VERY motioned capped sequences with button prompt gameplay. amazing

edit: OH, this is a hiphopgamer article. no wonder so many ps3 fanboys are trolling around. and why on earth does every article from hhg have to have such a ridiculous headline? all he wants to do is initiate controversy. how can anyone respect him as a game journalist?

[vdesai]

I bet you don't game on PC if you did then you would not have made such a dire mistake. "3 CPU each with 2 cores" No its a Xenon with one CPU that is 3 cores. Each core can handle two hardware threads which is NOT the same as 6 cores or processors. The single PPE in the PS3 is also single threaded while the seven SPEs are single threaded giving developers the freedom to work with up to 8 threads.

[Agent VX]

This video just goes to show how much further advanced a pimped out PC totally outclasses the PS3 and 360. Alan Wake makes Gear 2 and Killzone 2 look like last generation games.

The PS3 and 360 can't come close to running games from a Quad Cores PC running Crossfire or SLI. Anybody that says either Gears 2 or Killzone 2 comes close to looking as good as Alan Wake on a PC is just completely lieing and being a silly fanboy.

But graphics aside, I have seen such little from this game and still don't have a clue what this game is really about. But dang, it looks fantastic.

[RonRico]

I'm glad u brought up Heavenly Sword. I just beat that last night. Although it is kind of short, what an awesome game. And the graphics are sweet! Amazing for a close-to-launch title.

[pain777pas]

I'd like to see the proof of this. I have a feeling this is BS but I hope its true.

[incogneato]

so true. what a stupid sensational headline without even an ounce of evidence to back it up

[ARBitrator]

Edit: Nevermind

[BiG_LU]

This guy must be on drugs cuz to this game surpass Killzone 2 lol, give me a brake and for those that think I'm a fan, I don't think so, I love games and that's why I have both system but u r welcome to send me a friend request in the 360.
I said that cuz this is my opinion, don't want to get problem from fanboys but I don't see the good thing about this game, it might be a good game but graphically for me is ight but nothing out of the line, so just wait and enjoy ur game and that's about it.

[freddukes]

Okay... A CPU generally acquries info from both northbridge and southbridge and "calculates" the queries and sends back the results... In lamest terms, it does a bit of rendering, but the GPU does most of the rendering... Comparing a pre-rendered video to a video which renders on the fly in terms of CPU power is similar to comparing a DVD against a Game in terms of CPU power... If he's asking this, then he should be asking "Look at the quality of [insert optical disk drive here], they're FAR better than rendered images from games". It's basically the same thing...

[AnttiApina]

Killzone 2 = narrow shooter
Heavy Rain = a little bit open world game
Alan Wake = SANBOX GAME!

See the difference? We can't compare these graphics!

Oh and I am waiting to see some footage soon. After all, they stated that 360 version is looking really good.

[WhittO]

First of all, stop hyping Alan Wake!!

You dont even know what the 360 version will look like since everything they have showed has been running on high-end PC's !!

Why would they show the version that wont look as good as the game can, ofcourse they will demo the game on a PC.

Second, Infamous is a Sandbox game and look at them graphics!!

http://image.com.com/gamesp...

http://uk.gamespot.com/page...

http://uk.gamespot.com/page...

[SL1M DADDY]

"who's e-penis is bigger" argument... Sorry, but who the flock cares? The Cell has been proven to generate great graphics when coupled with the GPU int he PS3. The 360 has had some good looking games but all of a sudden, Killzone 2 hits and now we hear 360 fanboys talk graphics when for the last year they have touted game play and the number of games they have in their library. Well, I have both systems and the PS3 is the prettiest, and the 360 has the highest quantity. So ask yourself, do you want quality? Or Quantity? Best of both worlds here.

[godofthunder10]

All these fanboys and i mean all are just a bunch of pathetic kids.The fact is that their still really isn't that much difference in the graphics now.I'll admitt that some ps3 games looks better but it's not 100 times better like ps3 fanboys act.They might have 1 or 2 more raindrop in the same scene or the light might be a lttle better and that's it.The ps3 fanboys act like the ps3 is 100 times better then the 360.It reminds me of some other comments they made that's false.

They claimed that sony is the only innovators,the other 2 can't come up with anything different so they have to copy off sony and it's just bullsh*t.

1st- The fact is that it was nintendo that started useing moition in controllers for a game system first.When sony seen how people liked it they threw out the controllers that was suppose to come with the ps3 and made it a moition one.

2nd- Sony coppied online gameplay,ability to download movies, download extra game content and other net use from microsoft.When the first 360 was released it had online play and microsoft said it was going to be a media center.sony said that people that buy a ps want a gameing system they don't want a media center.They said they focus on games not other contents like microsoft is and because of it they could make better games.Sony seen how people wanted it and they started doing it to.

3rd- When the ps3 was first released it didn't have rummble.When the ps3 finally came out they had some ps3 fanboys that wanted rummble.The first lie sony told the people was that rumble was last gen and they didn't wont to put it in a next gen system.The second lie sony told the people was that they couldn't put rummble with the moition controller because they didn't have any room left in the controller to put it.The truth was that sony and microsoft was both sued over useing rummble in their controllers because they didn't have permission to use it.They were sued and lost,they both had to pay millions to the company that invented rummble.They then had to come to an agreement with the company if they wanted to keep on useing rummble.The fact is that microsoft paid the company the millions that they were ordered to pay and also came to an agreement with the company to keep useing rummble.Sony on the other hand never paid the company the money they were ordered to at the time the ps3 came out.In other words sony didn't have permission to use rummble,that is the real reason that sony didn't put rummble in their controllers at first.The most stupid remark that i've heard any company claimed was from sony.When sony finally had permission to use rummble sony claimed they they were useing a new gen rummble not old gen and it was going to be a lot better then the rummble in the 360 and they were the same damn thing.Ps3 fanboys still claim that sony doesn't lie HA HA how pathetic they are to lie just to try and make the ps3 look like it's perfect.I can't stand it when ps3 fanboys claim that the reason people have a 360 is because they are too poor to buy a ps3 and if they could afford a ps3 they would buy one.I bought 2 360s for $400 a piece at launce.I'll admitt i had to send 1 back but i never had a problem with the other one.Just a few weeks ago i bough a 360 elite for $400.I could have bought a ps3 but i don't like them ,i like the 360.I'm not saying the ps3 isn't any good because it is.The fact is that just because a person have a ps3 and love it doesn't mean that it's the best one and the 360 is trash and vice versa.ONe person might like one system and hate the other but it doesn'r mean every one thinks the same like him.They have the same amount of people that think the 360 is better then the ps3 and vice versa.The best system is the one that have the games you like the most on it and that's a fact.If a person like GOW or fable and don't like MGS or LBP like me they wouldn't buy a ps3 they would buy a 360.If a person like R or mgs but hate fable and GOW they would buy a ps3 not a 360.The fact is that just because a person like a system and say that it's better,has better games isn't a fact it's just his opponion and vice versa.It depend on what a person like that's the best system not what some else say.

3rd and the most important one. I'm tired of hearing ps3 fanboys cry that microsoft can't think up a game on their own and that's why they steal or buy exclusives away from sony.Especialy when it comes to MGS.Every time they have a rumor that it might come to the 360(it wont)they all start crying and saying that microsoft is trying to steal or buy the ps3 biggest exclusives.Then they make the most stupid remark that i've ever heard from a ps3 or 360 fanboy.They claim that unlike microsoft sony never had to buy or steal exclusives from other systems because they come up with new games on their own.The fact is that sony stole or bought MGS,NINJA GAIDEN,and others ps3 exclusives away from nintendo.The fact is that these games and other games that ps3 fanboys claim are ps originals is a lie.Sony did the same thing to nintendo like microsoft is doing to sony now.When sony first came out nintendo was the top dog and sony went at every exclusive that nintendo had so they could get on top and it worked and this is a fact.Ps3 fanboys need to type in the history of these games i mentioned above and they will see that they were nintendo exclusive first then sony stole and bought them away from them.

I still remember when sony was demostarting the ps2 before it was released.Sony showed a prerendered game and said it was actual gameplay and was going to be released the same day as the ps2 was.When the ps2 was released the game didn't even come close to what sony showed us before.Finally the developer of the game made a statement and told people not to blame him because it was sony that told them the game was actual gameplay but it was prerended.

Unlike ps3 fanboys that's in love with their system i'm not a pathetic loser fanboy.I'm not claiming that the 360 is perfect and didn't have problems because it did,i will also admitt that the ps3 is the most dependable console every made and 360 fanboys wont.They both have positive and negative things about them and they both have good and bad games on them.I'll admitt that the ps3 have some exclusives i like unlike 360 fanboys I also know that ps3 fanboys want admitt they like any games on the 360 even if they do.

I'm just tired of hearing ps3 fanboys claiming that sony makes all their own games.I'm also tired of hearing ps3 fanboys crying and claiming that sony is a company that never lie.ps3 fanboys claiming that sony never bought or stole any of their games.Ps3 fanboys claiming that all ps3 exclusives are original ps games.Ps3 fanboys are so in love with sony and the ps3 that they claim that sony never did anything underhanded like microsoft does.The fact is that sony lied to us already.Ps3 fanboys keep saying that sony doesn't do buisness like microsoft,they claim that sony does buisness straight up.The fact is that if sony was ran liked they claimed they wouldn't be where they are right now,all the other companies would have destroyed them before they even got started.The fact is that big buisness is a dog eat dog world and they will do anything to stay on top.Their isn't 1 big company in the world that run their buisness honestly.Ps3 fanboys act like the ps3 is god,hell i think they would make love to it if they can

[edgeofblade]

How is the tech demoy proof any different from Killzone 2 or ayny other PS3 game? I'm not going to be singing it's praises until I see something more concrete, that's for sure, but that ugly Sony-Microsoft double-standard is rearing it's head again.

[olivia]

LOLLOLOLOLOLOLOL
lol lmao 3 plus years and the best the 360 as is gears 1 and 2 with way easier to develop for system
lmao ,funny how 2 days till killzone 2 goes world wide sh*t news like this pops up?

[kewlkat007]

what is Infamous coming out?

Again devs are not created equal, why don't we have infamous devs or whatever game people choose as ammo develop a game on the competitors console.

Comparing games you'll never see on one or the other is useless..

Different devs have different skills and make different products with the hardware given to them.

[TOO PAWNED]

oh God can he for once not make lame, stupid, over the top title? I mean PLEASE! For ONCE!

[Parapraxis]

This "article" is actually by HyDRo1X , a lot of stories from HHG.com are posted by him.
That being said, he is following HHG's lead in using titles to sensationalize the story to garner more hits.
I dislike this concept.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

"HHG" Is actually a very nice guy.I didn't mind when he did his little shows every sunday..Even tho he got most of his info from right here on N4G..

But now with all these pure flame-bait "articles" formed just to cater to the N4G community and fan the flames of hate even more,it's getting out of hand now.It needs to stop.

The irony is,he talks about other game journalists useing flame-bait stories to get hits to their site..while he does it worse then anyone i've ever seen..

[Parapraxis]

ThatCanadianguy420 - "he talks about other game journalists useing flame-bait stories to get hits to their site..while he does it worse then anyone i've ever seen.. "

Hey, go look at some headlines from Analogue Hype. IMO the site that does it the most, they even bragged about using titles to get hits over at the Bitbag forums.

[Jazz4108]

you mean only if it does not benefit you?

[TheColbertinator]

Of course Alan Wake looks better than Killzone 2.Its on the PC and its a DX10 benchmark.Maybe they should show Alan Wake running on the 360 with some gameplay footage and real time weather effects.The most important aspect however is the gameplay.No point in graphics if the gameplay is average

[BGDad]

Second DX10 is a joke... Years later you can still do basically the same thing on Dx9.

Third I remember all of you saying Killzone trailer wasnt possible but now every game can achieve this? WTF ever Alan Wake will be average at best and who the heck is buying it for the 360 anyhow which really makes this more of a PC vs Killzone 2 because i guarentee Killzone 2 will look better than the 360 version of Alan Wake but if not who cares, as Alan Wake is nothing more then a single player game so whats the point.

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

"360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake"
+
"Sony Cell and 360 CPU are Equals"
;-D ;-D ;-D

Top 2 Article/Stories on this site!!! ;-D
Pathetic really, oh well they both made me Laugh out Loud!!! ;-D

[olivia]

lol lmao 3 plus years and the best the 360 as is gears 1 and 2 with way easier to develop for system
lmao.funny how just two days till killzone 2 gets release world wide sh*t news like this comes up?

[Deadman64]

is it really killzone week? I honestly wouldn't know. Haven't heard anything about it

[borgome]

Don't you mean the articles made you R.O.R. (Raf out Roud)

[kevinberger]

Let it go!!!! Does it really come down to graphics or cell power? How many people have a 47 inch 1080P TV to take advantage? It comes down to games, the PS2 had superior games and was the superior system. And as an owner of both a 360 and PS3, the 360 is currently superior.
Sorry but I play it more, and the majority of third party games play better (I like the controller, and for you graphics whores they are superior). I am a huge fan of Uncharted and am purchasing KZ2, which will kick ass, but Gears annilihates Resistance and Fable II is just plain awesome. So both systems are great, it is just that the 360 is better right now, and Alan Wake will be a great game

[paracardium]

I wonder how many discs this will take.

[Parapraxis]

currently, zero. As it's vaporware.

[MrWonderful]

they havent even shown the game running on 360 yet. its all been pc.

[thor]

Yes very true.

I do wonder sometimes why the hype is so high for this game as a 360 game. Because the first trailer that was released, whilst impressive, was boasting about how they were "utilising all 4 cores or a quad-core processor" - it was running on a PC, in other words. And apart from the graphics, which we've only seen from the PC version, we know very little about gameplay and the only thing we're going on is "developer's track record".

Of course, it could end up looking really good on 360, but we have nothing on which to base those claims. Obviously, the PC version will support higher resolutions, better anti-aliasing, better character models and better textures. All with better framerates if your computer's good enough. So all of the screenshots thus far released will be from a maxed-out PC version of the game.

[Why dis]

Splinter cell, WarHound, Lost Planet 2, Operation flashpoint 2, Ferarri Project will kill anything on PS3 lol.

[rucky]

Noby Noby Boy already killed all those games graphically.

[Beg For Mercy]

you cant be serious can you, have you forgot about heavy rain uncharted 2 team icos game god of war 3 god dude you are so delusional, wake up already you gotta ps3 you should know the difference in graphics quality between 360 and ps3, i tryed to go back and play world at war online on 360 and almost couldn't because i thought it was so damn ugly, cause i played the killzone2 demo a lot, and keep praying that lost planet 2 looks better than killzone just like resident evil 5 suppose to right.

[Why dis]

You got jokes?

[rucky]

At least my joke was better than yours

[Lou-Cipher]

None of those games will be able to top Wipeout HD,and Wipeout HD is only a PSN title, so what makes you think they will be able to top:

Uncharted 1&2 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Metal Gear Solid 4 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Little Big Planet (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Flower (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Motorstorm 1&2 (Only Gears 2 looks better)
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Gran Turismo 5 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
God of War III (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Heavy Rain (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Wardevil Enigma (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Killzone 2 (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
Ratchet & Clank 1&2 (Only Gears 2 looks better)
MLB 08: The Show (No exclusive on 360 looks better)
MLB 09: The Show (No exclusive on 360 looks better)

Sorry to disappoint you but, the 360 is always going to lack Audio & Visual Quality, when compared to the PS3.

There are better ways (and more believable ways) to defend the 360, because to try and make believe that the 360s graphics are on par with the PS3s graphics is just plain silly.

[I_Luv_2_Game]

i can't believe that u let yourself make that comment.. fanboys are going extreme..

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Lou-Cipher: Your post gave me a good laugh. Nothing on 360 looks as good as Flower?? GT5P looks better than any 360 exclusive? Wow! What kind of TV do you own? Is it even HD? Several of those games you list aren't even out and all you've seen/heard is what has been spoonfed by the dev's and journalists.

As a PS3 owner I'm not buying that bullsh*t. KZ2 and MGS4 are graphic powerhouses that the 360 needs to rise to the challenge but the rest of that list is all PS3 propoganda from a droid who obviously has not played a 360 to even make the comparison.

Much like this article, which we haven't seen enough of Alan Wake to say if it challenges the PS3 cell processor or not. I am personally more looking forward to see what RAGE looks like. They are using "megatextures" as they call them and I think that game might be setting a new graphic bar on consoles.

[xbollox]

what a big load of xbollox!

dynamic lighting is easy when you just have 3 or 4 lights but show me 80 lights? nah, for that, you need killzone 2.

it is easy to do a flashy physics demo when you only have 1 character and a simple scenery in the background.

in killzone 2, you have whole building collapsing and physics applied to thousands of debris and sparkles **while** having dozens of characters and weapons, you know like in a real game.

yet another load of propaganda bullsh!t for ignorant losers

[DNAgent]

Huh? Where was your joke?

[rbrtchng]

You've never played any of those games have you..

Speaking from experience, Splinter Cell on the 360 was the slowest, worst frame rate, worst pop-in game in a long time.

And Ferrari is a racing game you idiot lol. And even so, KZ2 kills that game.

[SWANN]

Man, Please stop the free-basing!

[N4PS3G]

oh god...not again!

[M337ING]

WOW. Talk about grasping for hits.

ALL of the footage we've seen of Alan Wake is a maxed-out PC version. We have no idea what the game looks like on 360, therefore it should not even be considered as a 360 advantage.

[frayer]

Let's not get into this again.... the 360 is just not powerful enough to keep up with the PS3. "Wait till Alan Wake, Star Ocean, Race Pro, multiplatform game etc comes out..."

[Why dis]

"They havent even shown the game running on 360 yet. its all been pc."

One is 720p native and the PC an higher rez lol

Look how poor quality this leaked blow up of an dev's PC screen is yet you can still tell this game is photo real. http://i132.photobucket.com...

The sh*tty pic I posted of Alan Wake running on the 360 is a blow up of the bottom screen of the devs PC in this link. http://www.alanwake.com/for...

[Microsoft Xbox 360]

HAHA you are so blinded from MS that you go as far as claiming that small tiny pic as photo-real looking? HAHA I could search for a 3d turd on google images, shrink it, and stretch it like the pic you posted and it would look just as "real" like you claim. lol. What a joke post. Do you actually read what you write?

[mrdxpr2]

why dis how old are u 12 cause u sure make a statement like one ... stop trying to make your point proven u got nothing aint nothing on 360 gona be graphicaly better then ps3 ok soo just sit back and enjoy playing your half as$ games ok :)

[Lou-Cipher]

PSN: Lou-Cipher
Xbox Live: SuperiorMindset

Sony 52 inch XBR4 1080p 120Hz TV With HDMI cable
PS3 Launch 60gig 43 retail games & 29 PSN games
Xbox 360 Elite / 5 retail games & 1 XBLA game (GTA TLAD) roomate has more games on his 360.

Yes Flower & GT5 Prologue looks better than Gears 2, but Gears2 is more impressive than Flower, due to all of the action going on in the background, but if you want to talk about the amount of stuff that is happening on screen, then Heavenly Sword tops Gears 2 in that category.

Flower tops Gears 2 in pure visuals ,but not in overall stuff on screen.

The only games I have not seen, that I previously listed is: Gran Turismo 5 & Ratchet & Clank FTOD 2, and I think it is fair to say that GT 5 will top GT5P in the graphics department(same can be said about R&C FToD2, and since GT5P looks better then Gears 2, I think it is OK to assume that GT5 will look better than any thing on the 360 so far, or in the near future.

I do agree about rage, and what it might become visually.

[WickedSick]

LMFAO Whydick! Are you seriously that desperate to defend a pathetic game like Asslan Wait that you have to embarrass yourself as well as making you look real stupid at the same time.. Your hopeless bot! Real hopeless!

[mercenarie]

the last time we saw Alane Wake, the game was running on a beefed up PC, not a 360. Upon release of this game i dare someone to do a side by side comparison.. the 360 version won't look close like its PC counter part. That's probably why they didn't reveal the game running on the 360 for so long.. because the PC would make the 360 Alan Wake version look like a wii gfx game.

[TheColbertinator]

Its funny how HYDROX is one of the biggest Sony fanboys I've seen and yet he makes half-assed articles to get hits for HHG.All I have seen for Alan Wake is the 2005 trailer and a few DX10 PC screenshots.I hyped the game like crazy back in 2007 but after Alan Wake was not shown in E3,Leipzig or TGS,I lost hope it would come out before the next Xbox was announced

[The_Rock]

Alan Wake, you wanna go one on one with The Great One? Well The PS3 says this: JUST BRING IT!

[Cajun Chicken]

Sure...I'll believe it when I see it.

[M337ING]

Guys, stop posting.

Given time and attention, this article is going to get approved and already be on the front page due to its heat...

[Max Power]

its because of its title, and they know it, that is why they do it.

[PirateThom]

Until I actually get to see Alan Wake, I can't comment factually, only speculate, but let's be serious here, we've only seen the thing running on PC and it was already downgraded from the screenshots that were initially released.

[jkhan]

I would like to see the 360 version to believe that statement. No offense to the 360 & Alan Awake but what we have seen so far is footage running on high end PCs and the tech demo they gave a few years back was on Quad Core machines, when the concept of whole Quad Core computing was relatively new.

[Karum]

When we see this game running on the 360 and not a beefed up PC for the purposes of a trailer, a trailer whose main purpose is to make the game look as good as possible to generate interest/hype - KZ2 target render anyone? When we see how it runs on the 360 then people can make such claims and comparisons.

HHG needs to get rid of this joke writer, seriously.

Comments like the one I've pasted below are ridiculous because nobody has seen this game running on the 360, as previously mentioned. It's only been seen on a high end PC.

"However, Microsoft always finds a way to answer to their competitors as well as their fans; now they are also answering to all the people who don’t believe Xbox360 can run something that looks near flawless with the upcoming and eagerly anticipated release of Alan Wake."

Now don't get me wrong, I own a 360 and if Alan Wake interests me (I can't say atm whether it does or not, we know jack about it) I'll have no problem at all buying it and I'm eager to know more about the game but to make these kinds of baseless claims which are without foundation is silly.

HHG for the love of God get rid of "writers" (I use that term extremely loosely) like this guy, he does more harm to your site and rep than he does good.

[i_like_ff7]

Looks really good from that trailer i saw but i haven't seen 360 footage yet.

[The gaming GOD]

That said HHG was a "ps3 fanboy" and that his site should be banned.

I always THOUGHT N4G was full of hypocrites. But now THIS is proof that my theory is very correct. And I won't mention any names of those approving this article because you know EXACTLY who you are

[The Lazy One]

cuz the writing was horrible, but that video was hot...

the dynamic lighting in this game is just amazing.

[2FootYard]

Heres your proof for anyone doubting whether hiphop gamer is just about getting website attention through controversial articles.

[specialguest]

This old tech demo still amazes me. Real time weather change would be the icing on the cake.

[Cure]

"already Gears has better texture then KZ2" are you serious?

[The Lazy One]

Texture quality is one of the last things you'll notice, and gears actually has some of the best textures this gen.

compared to killzone and uncharted, it has better textures, worse lighting (in most cases by far), worse models (I'm not sure if they actual numbers or smaller, or if they just weren't as smart with where they used their polys), worse physics, and worse attention to detail.

You will rarely be able to tell texture quality now days without staring at things close up, so it doesn't really matter, and the other things outweigh it, but gears has pretty good textures.

[Qbanboi]

Damn, that was sweet..

[Chaoticsoulx]

it could barely run halo, and it didn't even run it in 720p, this is obviously the pc version, only an idiot would think otherwise. the 360 version is going to be so dumbed down, and the gameplay probably sucks too, from the looks of the game. i bet it's the biggest flop this side of the galaxy, lol, im serious too.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Oh thank you! I needed a droid to tell me how my 360 can't run something.

I think the flaming you are doing needs to be directed at the engines running these games and not on the hardware.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Yes...because YOU have more knowledge of how powerful "your" 360 is.

The 360 simply doesn't have the processing power to do all of that without at least some sacrifice.

[TheIneffableBob]

Why does this article make it sound like Microsoft is making the game? Remedy are the developers; Microsoft is just publishing.

[MicroSony4Life]

That car was about to own Alan Wake.

Personally i dont care if the graphics are kill zone 2 worthy, the story is why i'm buying this game, plus i dont think REMEDY can ever screw a game up.

[TheMART]

Up in Smoke aka Hydro, why all the duplicate accounts?

[silverchode]

why so paranoid?

[creeture]

H*ll no, the xbox 360 is maxed out.

[bardler]

your blog is not gaming news its bullshit so stop posting it here.

[ps92117]

When you show some 360 footage then perhaps we can compare them to the Origami. Oh what am I saying Alan Wake doesn't stand a chance against Heavy Rain(period)

[NotSoSilentBob]

I can see it now from the demo video that was on HHG website I'm sure that it is not going to be Alan wake for release, that's just a code name, but it will be call Grand THEFT REDNECK. Just need to get Larry the Cable Guy to do the voice and their set.

[Ken92JP]

Weird...I could have sworn the game has only been seen running on PC.

[TheLaughingMan]

he even says at the end of the video that those physics can't be done on a single core processor. So its not going to run anything like that on the 360. Article title totally contradicts itself with the facts from the video. Challenging the cell processor? Its can't even use a multi processor so how will it look anything like that?!?
I'm telling you game journalist these days are MORONS!

[Belasco]

is multi core, moron.

[floppyfeet]

a generation built on autistic sony fans

The xbox 360 has 3 cores running at 3.2 ghz noob.

Thats faster then the ps3's cell

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Three tortoises next to each other running still aren't going to catch up to the one hare in front of them.

[nycredude]

You are even more of a moron than him cause you called him out on his mistake and proceeded to make the same mistake.

"Thats faster then the ps3's cell"

Maybe you should do some research before you comment and call someone out.

[solsub]

I'm really anticipating this one. However, more proof is needed to give any weight to this argument. We've seen so little of this title.

[Counter_ACT]

Lol what? If the latest trailer is anything to go by the graphics aren't that good. Not nearly as good as Uncharted 1 let alone a "challenge".

[Nicolator]

U PS3 fanboys should stop the hating .. gezz listen to urselfs..wow. just wow

[fuzion17c]

Fake ass Silent Hill. Water looks nice though.

[PeptoBismol]

looking forward to it

[bobdog626]

Let's just stop this mess right off the top about the 360 maxed out .Just look at Lost Planet 2 and say that again about Uncharted and Killzone looking better than that.

[Counter_ACT]

Both of them look LOADS better.

[KINGKON51]

If i put Killzone 2 in the xbox 360 the police will send me to jail. They will say that i am a terrorist because the xbox will blow up in pieces .

[cyclindk]

Retarded article:

1) they left MGS4 off the list for awesome Sony games

2) Gears 2 pretty much already "challenges" the PS3 graphically (I think upcoming PS3 games surpass it, but it does look great so it's just stupid to suggest nothing on 360 has been able to at this point just so this author can ride the Alan Wake train that's been cruising around N4G lately).

It would be a discredit to the 360 even though I still think it is a piece of... auto-deploy flame barrier, activated... flame comment averted. Resume normal operating conditions.

Whew...

[SDS Gamerfiend]

And see! This game will come out and look just like that demo on the XBOX 360!

[Playa7970]

hahah goodluck xbox youll need it

[silverchode]

Why dis=power of green?

[Ken92JP]

Why dis = dumbass

[jessehaysfl]

Ive seen alot of PC renders not one on the Xbox. maybe i wasnt looking in the right places...Also Killzone is not the best looking game on ps3 this year Heavy Rain is. and last but not least Sony put out a "target render" and met its visual fidelity so far I have'nt heard that the CG's for Alan Wake are targets I think they are just CG cinema and we will have to wait and see renders. I have seen the "in game footage" but it is suspect as there was nothing moving or interacting in the movies ive seen only static environmental shots with lighting and weather.

[NMC2007]

*picardfacepalm.gif*

Awwww man, now why did you go and post this, WHY?! lol.

[N4Sony]

See posts up to this point. This article is NOT approved by N4Sony. Nothing comes close to God Killzone 2. Not even real life! It's like...4D!!!!

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Haha...not possible on a single core processor.

Is he actually claiming that the processor in the 360, which is a very early, gimped version of the Cell processor, is more powerful than the actual Cell processor itself?

Genius...pure genius.

EDIT: Ever since THIS came out: http://www.shacknews.com/on...

[TheInCrediBleSulk]

Since when was the Xenon a gimped Cell processor. I mean, they are only two different technologies entirely. Well i guess 3 general purpose cores is a gimped version of a processor with 1 general purpose core and 6 functional spes. Because they are only completely different right.

OOOO such great proof
Heres the specs for the cell direct from ibm: http://www.ibm.com/develope...
when you can grasp what is going on there, get back to me

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

A link to something NEITHER of us understands.

How smart a move THAT was.

[TheInCrediBleSulk]

I understand the white pages. YOU don't. To understand them, try doing some google research, it might do you good. Or you can look here, it will explain things to you: http://www.howardforums.com...

[Trebius]

They're gonna show all this fabulous footage of Alan Wake and not even specify which system they're showing it on. All the 360 owners are gonna see this amazing footage and think the 360 version is going to look the same...and they'll buy it.

When they realize it doesnt look the same, they're not gonna care, they already have it and it'll without a doubt be a great game, so thats the end of that...

They can keep showing us PC footage and getting the fans excited if they want, i'm getting it on PC so i'll have a much better experience than the 360 counterpart...thats all i can count on.

Whats funny is that while the 360 owners play it on their consoles, the PS3 owners can play it on their PCs (the better version), just like Gears, Halo, Mass Effect and whatever other "Exclusives" that are on PC as well. so ... who really wins this battle?

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Halo is better on the PC? Right!! Gears is better on PC, but Gears 2 is a better game how is that again on the PC? Oh that's right.

Just like a dinosaur, PC fanboys are becoming extinct glad you showed your face here even if this has nothing to do with PC vs 360. Now hopefully Remedy actually get rewarded for their hard work on making the game on PC instead of being ripped off by PC thieves via torrents.

So buy the game and play it on your Vista box(it is Vista only btw) I'm sure MS will be crying when they get your money from a PC purchase vs the 360.

As a 360 owner with a crappy PC I will be playing the superior version on my 360.

[Jaces]

Uh, Uncharted 2 already surpassed every game out there graphically and it's not even out yet.

[DARK WITNESS]

funny how you guys can say that... yet 360 owners here saying Alen wake is going to look awesome are being told " how can you say that, its not even out yet... "

yet there you are uncharted 2 is going to be the best looking game...wait, wait, wait.. its not out yet !

[Magic_The_Celt]

How do we know? what we have seen so far was running on a PC

haha fail.

[Half-Mafia]

its funny how people think that cause this game is coming out for the 360 aswell that they think that all the footage we have seen for it have been on the 360 hardware, but all the footage we have seen has been running on PCs with quad cores and Nvidia 8800 cards.

[LONEWOLF231]

I have a Phenom quad Processor with 8gigs of memory......do you think my PC can handle this game????

All i need now is a good Vid card cause the HD32000 is a POS.....lol

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Is this a joke or something?

The Cell processor was built to do millions of things at once...especially physics.

Compare an Nvidia 6150 LE and an Nvidia 8800 Ultra. The 6150 LE will NEVER be able to out-perform the 8800 Ultra. It's just not possible.

[SWANN]

2 Words: Heavy Rain!!! nuff, said!!!

[Chaoticsoulx]

There's no question there, 360 doesn't have what it takes to run alan wake with those graphics, if it does, ill buy one, quote me if you want, i bet it sucks, and doesn't get over 9.

[LONEWOLF231]

Looks nice BUT........................... ............................... .............................
KILLZONE 2 is almost upon us.....Midnight release for me anyone else picking KZ2 at midnight???

[psiom]

The last time I saw Alan Wake XBox360 screenshots, they weren't even up to the standard of Gears 2/RE5/etc... I remember some terrible looking flat texture on a car engine and some generally unimpressive scenes.

Where are the most current Xbox360 screenshots? Maybe the ones I've seen were too old. I've only come across PC screenshots recently but those are nto going to give any indication at all of how this will look on 360.

[Jaces]

Plan on getting this for PC, hopefully I won't have to upgrade anything just to play it...ugh.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

I'm getting the PC version.

Anyone else?

[Jaces]

uh yea. ^^^

[JokesOnYou]

"I'm getting the PC version. Anyone else?", said the first sdf member.

"uh yea. ^^^", said the second sdf member.

And so those same sony loyalists go on tell their tale how "OMG" 360 exclusives wouldn't do well because they are all available on pc too, but suddenly a stranger came along to add some perspective, reminding them that 360 games still continue to outsell their competition overall and in the latest NPD sales data 2 of the top 20 are 360 *console exclusives, 1 of which is currently on PC, the other is "rumored" to release on pc in the future, ha ha while those "oh so so so exclusive you can't get anywhere else but ps3" exclusives are nowhere to be found on the same best sellers list. The stranger knew all too well what the strange look on their face meant, so he smiled and continued on his way.

-True Story, and its not the first time we've seem similiar "true" stories.

JOY

[Jaces]

Uh-hu.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

DX10, 2 9800 GT's, 6 GB's of RAM...on a double quad-core.

Even if I had a 360...why would I buy it over the PC version?

[CertifiedGamer]

Because the graphics wupe this games ass like if Kratos kicked alan ass and alan wakes up in the hospital,Uncharted 2 has better graphics than this,and heavy rain makes this game look like garbage but the difference is that those games are running on the ps3, while this one is running on a custom pc so they could have been running it on a pc that can easily run crysis.Wow dude is talking about something that was done since n64 free roaming on day and night with enviromental change wow wasn't that already done on GTA4 so he just made himself look like a jackass.

[Lets-Game]

rofl that title cracked me up.

the cinematic trailer doesnt even look as good as killzone 2's in game video.

[SRuN4]

He's getting good at flame bait articles. How can you even make this comment when nobody has seen the game running yet?

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

why GG is already busting @$$ on KZ3? lol, j/k... relax Sony Fanboys!!!

but no, I have wishful thinking that Alan Wake might breathe new life into the 360 and might open doors of new possibilitys for future titles. Remedy possibly helping other 360 devs, much like Insomniac with Sony devs?... this could be pretty good!

[XLiveGamer]

That game looks amazing and its an open world. Now i wanna see PS3 doing that.

[Blackcanary]

Dude thats not runing on a 360 lol its runing on a PC lol lmao.

[Unicron]

You know, I can't wait to get this game for my new rig.

But um, until we see the game actually running on hardware, are we really going to go with articles that say "the game COULD be a powerhouse!"

Well... hell, Metroid Prime 8 COULD be a visual powerhouse! And if it is, oh boy!

Man, this is what passes for news?

[DJ]

I like the volumetric lights, but they only showed 4 of those lights at one time. Why HHGS is comparing this to Killzone is beyond me. We're not even looking at gameplay; they showed us their weather cycle and some volumetric lights.

[MmaFanQc]

"Bring it litle biatch!!!"

[animalia85]

I'm all for debate about ps3 vs 360, but leave pc out of it. If you have the money to get a good gaming pc, which I don't think the majority of people who claim to do, then you should have a measly $250 xbox. I have a ps3 and 360 but not a gaming pc. Some people on N4G say I'll just get mine on pc, I can't prove it but you know that most of you are lying just to spite the xbox. That video is from over two years ago, do you really think they have just been sitting around with thumbs up their butts. They have had plenty of time to work on the 360 version and they will show it at GDC or E3.

[shortstraw4]

Wasn't that lighting and physics demo over a year old from 2007? I would imagine that they have managed to get it to look like that on the 360 by now. I seriously doubt that Gears of War 2 maxed out the 360. I also doubt that kill zone 2 is the best the PS3 will show. With that said does it really matter. Game play is most important. If Alan Wake cant deliver that then all its millions of pixels are for waste. The same goes for Killzone. Until these games are out we cant say for sure.

[Bathyj]

All we heard from the haters for the first year and a half is, "If the PS3 is more powerful, where's the games to prove it?"

Well the games to proove its are already all around, have been coming out in a steady stream pretty much since Motorstorm, and the one game that removes all doubt is here in 2 days.

Now the proof is undisputable no one whats to hear about it anymore.

And yes I'm going to paste this exact same post in the other exact same story.

[Jaces]

Just because I have a preference for the PC version over the 360 doesn't give you the right to assume me to be a fanboy.

Seriously, grow up a little and spread you're "JOY" elsewhere.

Thanks.

[dustgavin]

This is a joke. Microsoft is really getting desperate.

[PS360PCROCKS]

Old. I want Alan Wake too but we all know Alan Wake will look gorgeous on a quad core PC.

[PumPum]

HipHopGamer didnt get the memo from Remedy that ALL OF THE SEEN AND LEAKED FOOTAGE IS FROM THE PC VERSION OF THE GAME.

Dont believe it? Head to Remedys own forums.

[gameman]

who are you trying to fool ??

this is obviously a PC ver of the game and yet they put it as the 360 running it???

what kind of ppl would believe that (360 fanboys desperately hoping it will overcome KZ2 )

[gersh]

Not much of a challenge for the PS3...

[BMS84]

And we have seen nothing of that game ,I would be very suprised if it came even close to Heavy Rain.

[DelbertGrady]

Don't give this sad individual attention. Someone should get him to participate in a reality show or something. He would be perfect for it mentally.

Everytime you click or comment on his fake 'stories' you contribute to his popularity. I'm sacrificing this comment for the sake of awareness.

Don't want him here, don't click or comment.

[xabmol]

Wonder how much I'd have to spend on a pc to actually play it at full settings.

[Godmars290]

At launch, Uncharted set the bar for what to expect in the way of graphics from the PS3. That's been reset by KZ2 which comes out this week, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3, all of which have projected release dates.

Alan Wake was announced at the 360's launch and has no release date on the console that's a year older than the PS3. During this time the only graphic superiority the 360 can claim comes from multiplatform titles where it was the lead build. With pro-fanboys literally having to put stills under a microscope to find differences as time goes on.

Honestly, people are putting too much weight on the game's shoulders. If it delivers on story and gameplay that should be enough. Looking at it to deliver graphics beyond anything the PS3 has already shown is just going to lead to disappointed.

[xg-ei8ht]

The graphics look great for a game that's running on a quad core - geforce gtx 285 sli'd. with 8gb ram.

But the one thing i got to ask, Why does he run like a sissy.

Sort out the animations ffs.

[xabmol]

Doesn't he run like a Welshman? Doesn't he? I think he runs like a Welshman.

/Stewie Griffin

[Droid Control]

The LAST true hope for the Xbox 360!

[Kassanova07]

LOL

[Deios]

The game looks great so far. But I hate the way he runs. He runs like Dan from Street Fighter 4, lol.

[Myth-Psn]

"If Microsoft can deliver this game with its pre-rendered visuals as real-time",There's no release date,realtime 360 footage,
no clue what the game mechanics are like, and imo the game's visuals fall short of killzone 2 in some areas,though some effects in that "tech demo", such as the water are impressive,the game has a render similar to l4ds style, if those are even in game visuals which have been shown.Honestly, to say that the 360 challenges the cells power is technically a lie...Just do some research, though i wouldn't mind the pc that its running on :P

[rTR-Pioneer]

well by the time ALAN WAKE comes out killzone may no longer be the benchmark, uncharted 2 is expected to blow killzone out the water, so ALAN WAKE had better look better than killzone because other games will look better than killzone by the time it is released.

[BYE]

The fact that they're showing PC footage under a 360 headline disqualifies them.

[badkolo]

Again with this nonsense. When did anyone claim the 360 was more powerful, I never read anything that said it was more powerful other then the gpu being better and that the 360 is easier to program for, never has ms claimed the 360 was more powerful and we all knew years ago that while the 360 was powerful that the ps3 would be able to do more in the long run when programmed for specifically, as a matter of fact all ps3 fans knew this and used that as a arguing point which they said would show itself with time as devs learned the ps3 architecture, and the proof of that is in the exclsuives.

To me personally games like heavenly sword,uncharted and other games do things that most 360 games dont, they have either more on the screen at once like killzone2 or the games excell in areas that i dont see 360 games do. I guess when devs want to they can achieve things on the ps3 that the 360 cant do in the same manner but not once has ms said otherwise nor have us gamers. AS many times many have said that both consoles are equal i think the ps3 is more powerful but not by much and obviously the ps3 is harder to code for but when done right it can and will achieve more in the final product.

I remember when people here expected the ps3 to blow away the 360 right away because of the belief that more power equals better and thats where things changed, the 360 delivered great graphics in its own games and continued to improve as time went on which many did not expect, many thought after 2 years games wouldn't improve graphically and obviously they did.
Now are we going to seriously debate whether alan wake will surpass what the ps3 can do, seriously?. why?. does it really matter.
maybe the 360 can improve graphically, maybe it can maybe not. who cares. Besides the obvious that with time games for the 360 can look better and some devs can do things not seen before like last gen with splinter cell but again why argue.

[ballsofsteel]

okay KZ2 we've seen gameplay of and we all agree it's the best looking console game however alan wake we haven't scene real gameplay yet and we don't even know if the supposed in engine scenes were even on the 360

[badkolo]

Without being an arse, who is everyone that agrees its the best ever.
I wont disagree that it does things that the 360 doesnt but there are tings that it flops at, i see jaggies and can point them out, i see flat textures on many things, the character models of your squad look inferior to lets say gears2 models(not enemies but the main character and squad). While kz2 has mor eon screen and a better lighting and effect system and while it does more I dont consider it the best ever.

Not knocking kz2 just saying.

[ballsofsteel]

i'm sorry but what console game looks better than KZ2? gears 2 looks good but there are alot of low res textures in there along with bad lighting. certain games might do some visual aspect better than KZ2 but KZ2 does everything from physics, lighting, character modles, textures, hit response, particle effects, animations and such better than 90% of games find me game that can do all of these things better than KZ2. KZ2 is amazing in every category rather than 1 or 2 areas

[badkolo]

And why do we keep comparing 2 totally different games and wondering what can be done to outdo the other game, are we going to keep doing this until the gen is over all while the wii produces inferior games that keep selling.

I love it and think its real funny how we disregard the wii and its success and threat simply because it doesn't cater to what we want, its still a games console thats competing with the ps3 and 360 like it or not yet we dismiss it and only focus on the ps3 and 360. thats being very hypocritical

[bigjclassic]

and the theory of "hardcore" gamers is absurd. I thought that to be hardcore means that you play all types of genres and own all consoles, but I guess it changed to guns and cursing, lol.

Personally, it funny to check N4G and to see the "boys" fight over 2nd place like a bunch of kids. But the facts are this:

1. Wii is almost a 50 million consoles worldwide
2. SMG is the HIGHEST RATED console exclusive this gen so SMG>everything
3. Almost every 1st/2nd party Nintendo game sold over a million copies.
4. DS is almost at 100 million consoles.

If anyone wants to get punished in SFIV PM me.

[maspi]

rotfl hiphopgamers. "360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake" yeah sure! sarcasm

[badkolo]

yeah the title kills me as well but why argue and dismiss the 360 over his article. You really dont know what a great dev can do, can you say you do with 100% confidence, can you really say that some dev cant use the 360 to its fullest with all the resources available and all the tricks learned about the 360 in the last few years and produce a game(doesnt matter what kind from fps to fighting etc..) that looks better then a top looking ps3 game, putting fanboyism aside i beleive its more then possible and at the same time i believe the a dev can do the same for the ps3 as well, excluding which system is more powerful.

Negating the numbers and raw power, both the 360 and ps3 are close in terms of power and both have postives over each other, putting the fact that the ps3 has more power in it, when comparing the consoles the 360 can produce good looking games as promised and we knew well in advanced that eventually the ps3 will have games that are better visually even if only by a small margin or large.

Until we see alan wake or any other game why assume that it isnt possible and lets say that alan wake looks miles better then a comparable ps3 game who says that the ps3 wont trump that.

[Blackcanary]

why haven't they showed anything new to AW running on the 360, why is it shown on a PC.

[Information Minister]

And yet all we've seen so far are photoshoped screens from the PC version running in 1080p.

We have seen nothing from the 360 version that has already been confirmed by the developers to be running in 720p.

[SAiOSiN]

Uncharted 2>Alan Wake

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Droids fear Alan Wake, thats why there are more droids than Xboxs in anything Alan Wake (this excluded)

[Nelson M]

You saw me run for cover when i heard the name Alan Wake

[Dimitri]

Some rumour comes out, some biased writer makes this crap up and you get soo happy that eventually something better than Gears of War will come out. Well good for you, I would be happy as well.

Until the OFFICIAL 360 GAMEPLAY is released, for me it doesnt exist. If its true what this writer is saying I will buy this for sure, if it beats or actually come anywhere near the quality of Killzone 2.

Dont forget Killzone 2 is a FPS with a lot of action, where as Alan Wake, you dont see much happening so you can have one of those options..

Its like Heavy Rain - that game doesnt introduce you to much action, but it then catches more amazing graphics.

[SWANN]

Do you really believe that shyt your saying?

[nycredude]

You really are ignorant. What makes you think people don't have multiple consoles? Just because people are calling out this article for being BS because it is obvious this is the pc version running doesn't mean they are Droids man.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Why do PS3 fanboys and teh cell fear this game so much?

[bigjclassic]

The AW footage is from PC. FACT
KZ2 is currently the best looking console game. FACT
Crysis is the best looking PC game. FACT

AW cant touch either one, yet. (the game is still far away)

But from what ive seen of Heavy Rain, is that it is close to KZ2 maybe, but I didn't see anything physics related that blew me away. Character models in KZ2 look better than the zombie like characters in Heavy Rain.

Uncharted2 maybe the only game this year to come close to knocking off
KZ2 as console graphics king.

[evrfighter]

"Crysis is the best looking game period"

Fixed

[badkolo]

wow, do you people ever stop to read or do you just blurt out whatever comes to mind.

uncharted>alan wake,wow , did that take you an hour to think of that.

wondering why only pc pics where shown, wow. I guess people will do as they like .

[fossilfern]

Does he realise that the video on the page is from the PC verson showing it running on an Intel Q6600 just before it was out ? There has been no 360 videos from what iv seen and all images released were done on PC.

[LorD]

why do you guys get your panties in a bunch over this?

why do you guys even click the link to hiphopgamer webstie?

Not only you get crappy articles, you get to stare at that ugly-mug on the top banner. That and that alone was enough to keep me away from that site the first time I saw it.

[rawd]

buhahahaha i needed a good laugh today omg

[kozsg]

This is a TECH DEMO tha was shown in 2006
here is a much better quality of the video

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Marcus himself has said (through the official forumns) that this footage is not the actual game.The actual game will have much better graphics,animation ect.

31 staff at Remedy HQ, though parts of the game are outsourced. Five people work in game design, eleven in visual arts, nine in programming, two in project management, two in business and legal, and two in IT support.

“Alan Wake is more tightly character-driven and story-oriented. Meaning that the player’s goals and missions are closely focused around Alan Wake and his story. Also, the setting, the tone and the game being an action thriller all set it clearly apart from the GTA games.” - Sam Lake

“Intense cinematic action is something that we love to do, and Alan Wake features tense combat gameplay as well, but all things considered the game has a lot more emphasis on adventure and exploration that what Max Payne did.” - Petri Järvilehto

“Driving is an integral part of the game” - Petri Järvilehto

Microsoft Game Studios are publishing the game.

“Having several cores helps, but is not required, since you can run several processes on one thread. In the current plans the PC and 360 versions will be pretty identical.Also, we stream necessary data to memory when needed, the whole world will not be loaded into memory constantly. It’s the same idea that was already in GTA3 for PS2, remember, it only had 32mb.”

Alan Wake is expected to run at at least 30 frames per second on the Xbox 360 at 720p.

Remedy has four main design goals with Alan Wake:

1) Alan Wake is a psychological action thriller.
2) Alan Wake introduces lighting as a new field in game mechanics.
3) Alan Wake has a cinematic story that takes place in a vast, open-ended environment.
4) Alan Wake is a game that has to earn 90+ scores.

Complete modeling of atmospheric scattering, fully volumetric shadows that are projected through the entire world, full weather modeling, day/night time cycles, ambient occlusion, normal mapping, high dynamic rendering, bloom, depth of field and loads of different pixel-shader effects.

(no silent hill,no mgs 4 and no killzone 2 comparison, it's a completely different type of game).

[Gobuz]

hiphopgamer always gets attention with these articles even if they are ridiculous.

[makingdamage]

Look how he runs, that looks really funny. He kind of bounce along..
:-)

[maspi]

yeah he runs like a dumbass. as always remedy's animations sucks like max payne.

[AnttiApina]

2006...They have changed the walking animation.

[UltimaEnder]

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Flaim bait crap, good work N4G!!!!
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1 pic ha
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Flamebait....
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flame article from hip hop ps3 gamer. Please ban him.
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trying to flame and has no evidence.
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It's HipHopGamer
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Again more junk from crappy website looking for cheap hits
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info is ripped out of thin air, no proof, all we've seem of Alan Wake is on the PC

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change to Article.

Also add PS3 to channel since you're mentioning the console & its games
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this is more of an Article than News, please change.
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all we've see is pc footage.

we dont even know how the damn game looks on 360
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[Cynical-Gamerzus]

THis is not360!!this is PC version,All that texture and Geometry can only be Possible with Lots of Ram and as of now 360 and PS3 are very limited!!!
Lets stop the BS and make the correction!!!

With a shelf life of a GPU PC card even this Demo is date compared to whats possible on the Newer Nvidia Cards!!!
But at what COST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[artsaber]

This game has been in development since the XBOX and it still isn't out. Alan wake is the Duke Nukem of the 360. 360 fans keep hailing over the graphics when all footage is shown from PC demos... very funny.

You guys are REALLY grasping at straws. I spotted Killzone2 for sale at my local Target this morning.

[ActionBastard]

Has Alan Wake been shown running on a 360 yet? All I keep seeing are PC shots. Until then...

[N2NOther]

Why does everyone care SO much about this nonsense?

[hetz15]

I want to get that PC XD...and this game looks nice..

[AliC]

What Remedy are still making Alan Wake?

[AnttiApina]

They made Max Payne 1 in 5 or 6 years...

[TheOutsider]

In your Damn dreams microsoft!! Just give it up you worthless pieces of $hit!! Better hurry and build your next defective box if you want or try to compete with PS3 POWER!! B**TCHES!! worthless article!!

[AnttiApina]

Dear god! Why does everyone only care about the f***ing graphics?!

[Yomiro]

Alan Await

[Socomer 1979]

360 Challenges the PS3's Cell Processor Power with Alan Wake

with what?!?

vaporware.

you xbums are dreamers. ps3 is now.
each 360 has a expiration date on the back.
its 1678UFCKEDURSELF346654566

[DFresh]

Until we see 360 footage then this statement is false.
PC Footage will always seem superior to a console.
Compare consoles not PC VS Consoles.

[Flare149]

Don't see what the buzz is about, it looks like a rip-off of Silent Hill Homecoming.

[pshizle]

to all the non believers

http://www.teamxbox.com/age...

[Ziriux]

I love this game, and can't wait for it, but Killzone 2 being blown out of the water, I don't think so. Only a black ignorant fool like you can say such thing.

[YoyoWhatsUpNig]

how you guys doing???

[YoyoWhatsUpNig]

highdefintion rocks

[YoyoWhatsUpNig]

when i grow up i want to be blanka!!

[Blackmoon]

In Alan What?

[LilMissGoddess]

what i don't get is how people are so hyped about killzone 2, they bring that game into so many different threads, its ridiculous.this is about alan wake...which i feel is going to be a great game. but seriously i don't see how this is slipped past the moderators, they catch all this other stuff in the gamerzone...what about all the SPAM about killzone 2 that dont belong?

i have ps3 and xbox. i like them both but you sony fans on here, you guys are what hurts the company. people like you guys are what makes people turn away from wanting to even get one!! you guys act like its got so much more to offer when its only got blu-ray. which is funny too, because you cant tell a difference from dvd and blu-ray!

[Obama]

Alan Wait is yet to be seen.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

the 360 owners that have both system will tell you that...if they say otherwise they don't own both system...I don't care how much the xbot or wii sell its still a piece of crap..

[Fatal Blow]

'Alan NEEDS to WAKE UP, before those claims get made'

lol true but if it does then am buying a xbox elite unless the game comes out on pc then no point buying a xbox elite

[denied]

gota quiet while they still can.How can you try to compare PC VS PS3?please next time correct your subject.Like everyone here has said show us 360 graphics not pc, and by the way did you guys forgot that KZ2 has better graphics than alot of PC games including FARCRY? the 360 is not even next gen console they are using dvd9 WTF!!! please Hippoesgamers bring true facts or shut up...PS3 own!!!!

[Neo-Delta]

OH FFS STFU HipHopGamer. Please? Its so irritating how he makes these silly claims.

[denied]

Allan is not awake..only PC is awake. Please stop saying PS3 Cell and 360 are the same. I know its hard for you xbox fan to swallow but let the true be told, the 360 is maxout. Do you remember when game where bein develope the same way on PS3 and 360? everyone was saying they are the same,but now you can't handle the true about the PS3 bein more stronger and powerful. Also you guys always said we got all the games and PS3 got none.Whats wrong now,you can't admit PS3 is coming up with better quality games? only an xbox fan cries when PS3 get a great game.

[xaphanze]

did you guys see the way he runs? LMAO

[HolyOrangeCows]

So, two unreleased, over rated, low-processing demanding games are being compared now. Excellent.

[kevinberger]

Oops not sure if it posted

Let it go!!!! Does it really come down to graphics or cell power? How many people have a 47 inch 1080P TV to take advantage? It comes down to games, the PS2 had superior games and was the superior system. And as an owner of both a 360 and PS3, the 360 is currently superior.
Sorry but I play it more, and the majority of third party games play better (I like the controller, and for you graphics whores they are superior). I am a huge fan of Uncharted and am purchasing KZ2, which will kick ass, but Gears annilihates Resistance and Fable II is just plain awesome. So both systems are great, it is just that the 360 is better right now, and Alan Wake will be a great game

[teto83]

it's like those car comercials where all the brands claim to be like toyota...just listen to the xbox fans comparing alan wake to killzone2, how much it has to sux to have a 360 to come up with that garbage?.

[teto83]

hahahahahaha lmao!!

are you serious???

who approved this garbage?

[deividpaulo]

killzone 2 and uncharted 2 challanges the entire microsoft...

xbox360 < PS2 = FACT

[tee_bag242]

360 appears to be more flexible in structurally expanding the base denominated coding of many games.

eg. games coded in a traditional PC like language, such as many of the multi-platformers or games written with 'one size fits all' in mind.

PS3 shows off and flex's hard on games with the dedicated coding and design. Hence, its recent leaps and bounds on exclusives.
Games like Uncharted, GTpro and Killzone could never be done on 360 unless they sacraficed a sh!t load of physics and AI.

At this point the only people that can't figure this out are people that haven't played and experienced any PS3 AAA exclusives.

Look, love my 360 too (probably play it more ATM), but its as clear as night and day that PS3 is capable of Soooooooooo Soooo much MORE.
Don't kid yourselves

Those who know, show me some Bubble Luurve

[FinestSoldat]

a lot of people underestimate halo 3`s graphics, but the explosions and metallic sheen on armors and vehicles look great. And the environments(lighting,sand,WAT ER esp, and snow. Killzone does look great thogh. i think KZ2 and Gears 2 are almost identical graphic wise.