"Being rated higher than Killzone 2 is awesome" - Headstrong Games

Talking to D+PAD earlier this week, The House of the Dead: Overkill developers Headstrong Games have expressed their delight at having their game score higher than Killzone 2 in the most recent issue of EDGE Magazine.

When asked how it felt to be rated higher than Killzone 2, lead producer Neil McEwan replied:

"It feels pretty awesome! You know, because we thought we're on the Wii, it's a light gun game, it's another on-rails shooter, we thought people would bring us down.

"I skipped home with EDGE's review, we put a lot of effort into this game and I think that shows."

[GrieverSoul]

Is this for real?
What about the other 15 reviews where they scored lower?

Douch! Be proud for your game and dont compare it to other in order to greaten your own!

[Rikitatsu]

The scores:

Gameplayer: 9/10
GameInformer: 8.5/10
Worth Playing : 8.5/10
IGN: 8.3/10
Eurogamer: 8/10
Guardian: 8/10 (4/5)
M!Games: 8/10
Games Radar: 8/10
CVG: 8/10
Videogamer: 8/10
EDGE : 8/10
X-Play: 4/5
Mirror: 4/5

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

Don't forget the other reviews:
Gamer.nl: 7/10
GamePro: 7/10
TGC: 7/10
1up: 6.7/10
Level7: 5/10

[Rikitatsu]

are unknown or either unprofessional. Except 1UP and Gamepro.

[enviable27]

Oh and Edge is..... Yeah I didnt think so

[solidt12]

This is funny. Overkill does look interesting and has me thinking about picking up my Wii controller again since I am a fan of grindhouse, but it is obvious that Killzone 2 is the better game. They are just having fun with the score. Edge can kiss me were the sun don't shine.

[Consoldtobots]

I think everyone agrees that developers need to be appreciated for the really hard work they put into these projects. That being said there is a game that almost 4 years to make and is garnering stellar reviews across the internet which they deemed was only worth a 7.

As Riddick would say Toombs shows up with only 4 bounty hunters to capture him "f@#cking insulting"

[Ninja-Sama]

lol EDGE...

[johover112]

a good o' swift kick in the nuts huh! lol
i played this game at New York's Comic Con 09...and i don't see this any different than Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
(if people are wondering, i didn't find this game to be that amazing)
after about 20 minutes i have lost all interest. i wouldn't believe the reviews after i played the game myself.

[get2sammyb]

Yeah I'm really enjoying House Of The Dead Overkill. Whether it's better than Killzone 2 or not I care none. The game is fun.

Can't wait for Killzone 2 but this will tide me over.

[lociefer]

its not that house of dead is better than killzone2 , its edge that have no credibility

[zslash]

Well to be fair I wouldn't call him a "douche." He was specifically asked how it feels to have his game rated higher than K2. What else would you say?

Honestly the interviewer here asked a stupid question.

[s8anicslayer]

I still can't believe edge gave a higher score to house of the dead overkill then KZ2.

[xwabbit]

Edge is becoming a joke now

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Edge was reviewing and printing mags before most of you ^^^ were born, they been reviewing Nintendo, Sega, Playstation, PC and Xbox for a looooong time. They have more cred than 90% of all review sites and 100% more than crying and whining Playstaton fanboys mad because Killzone 2 score flopped from 10 to 92.

[Elven6]

House of the Dead sounds like a great game although I've heard because of the limited hardware on the Wii the developers had to make sacrifices which are apparent in the final game such as lag, framerate, etc.

[xwabbit]

Yeh the guy with Jason 360 calling people fan boys lol GG.
I guess banjo and kazooie deserved the same rating as kill zone 2 huh LOL, you must be right Jason 360, they know how to rate games.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

I have never stated anything other than being a fanboy, it's a fanboy calling out fanboys, thats why I have "360" at the end of my name. How does that feel?

[xwabbit]

Huh.....

[Pandemic]

You did know this game is on the Wii..
Yes the game did get a good review but for the Wii.. If Killzone 2 was on the Wii, the game would get the same score as this game or even higher because they did an amazing job with the specs they have in the Wii.

It all depends on what console its being played on and the specs on the console....

[Raz]

It feels hypocritical and stupid. How does a biased opinion trump a biased opinion? Dumbass.

EDGE obviously is a site well to your liking, and every other 360 fanboy, which tells me a great deal about THEIR biases.

[N4360G]

LOL at people comparing a Nintendo Wii game to Killzone 2,only 13 more days left until Killzone 2 is released,I can't wait!!

[Nonsense 4 Gamers]

D-PAD sounds like something dirty doesn't it?

Like a girl and her D-PAD

[DavidMacDougall]

Poor Neil McEwan is so blind to the fanboy wars. Bet you EDGE don't reply because it would just prove they have no reasons for a 7

[Potty Scotty]

I'll be getting KillZone 2 here pretty soon. I'll be able to judge for myself. Until than, I'm not going to praise it or claim that it's not worth a 7.

[MURKERR]

this was a huge banana skin for them the kz2 score has highlighted and cemented what alot of people guessed for a while,this was a risk to far but there arrogance took over and they spat in the wind....

[TheMART]

Well yeah, KZ2 dropped from 9.8 average to 9.2 average after only the Official PS mags and non official reviews before the embargo was lifted (east european ones, giving high scores to sell some mags) and the 'exclusive' Eurogamer (you may review first if we as Sony like the review&score) were downtuned by real unbiased reviews.

So its not that hard that other games score higher. Gears 1 & 2 have a higher average score then KZ2 and KZ2's score is still decreasing. In the end it might end up on 9.0 out of 10. PS3 fanboys, lets hope it won't dive under that score...

EDIT

@ David (below)

well dude the score diving down is not for nothing. Its because the gameplay is generic, the whole game actually is. Colours are grey, another form of grey and some glowing red eyes. It starts like generic shooters, you arrive at a beach, but instantly you're shooting like in a lot of generic shooters and entering a building like a lot of shooters. You want something fresh? Look @ COD4 opening you going in with a helicopter on a ship in a storm lightning everywhere. That was awesome. KZ2 starting is kind of meh. AI is fun, death animations are good, graphics good (but not Crysis great) but furthermore meh. And thats reflected in the decreasing score.

[DavidMacDougall]

I don't care what its score is in the end. I just want the game. Is your life so empty that sh!t really matters? I mean we joke around and everything do the whole fanboy thing for fun but is it going to improve your life any?

[PirateThom]

The only reason the score decreased so much is because of a single 7 out of 10.

Of the 49 reviews, 45 are 90 or above and 48 are 80 or above.

[Omega4]

At first glance it may seem like the 7 was the sole reason for the sudden decrease but when you look at Halo 3 it also has a 7 yet its still sits comfortably at 94

The reason Killzone 2 is only at 92 is because the majority of reviewer gave it 9's rather than 10's and with every 9 posted that averaged slowly comes down so its not just Edge's fault it was a group effort from the whole gaming media

[Sony Rep]

The problem with those scores of 90's and one or two 80's is that they only review the single player campaign. They don't take into account the strong multiplayer offering- which is what most people buy FPS' for. Gamespot, Giant Bomb, and a few other review sites aren't even going to post reviews until the spend a good amount of time with the multiplayer.

Reviewing just one aspect of a game is like reviewing Halo's generic campaign or COD4's 5-6 hour campaign and forgettable story and not reviewing their strong multiplayer offerings. For the record, I've seen two 95's and a 93 added to the Metacritic. So, It's not impossible for Killzone 2 to sit at a 94 or 93, but for now you can jack off to a 2 point difference...

[Blitzed]

I normally dont comment in the openzone, because...well...I dont have too, but does anyone on this site make themselves look like an idiot more regularily than the Mart? Sure he has comepetition but he is definitely up there.

FYI- the demo is not the beginning of the game you fool. Furthermore, i didnt know 9/10 was for generic piece of crap while 9.3/10 is a masterpiece. You really are a tool.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It went from 93 to 92 after the EDGE review stupid. Stop trying to play with your retarded brain PirateThom, and play with other things your good at, like your pu$$y.

All 9 and lower
70 Edge Magazine
80 Total Video Games
82 Pelit
87 Computer and Video Games
88 Game Informer
90 Cynamite
90 Level7.nu
90 GameDaily
90 VideoGamer
90 Kikizo
90 Gamer.nl
90 EuroGamer
90 Playstation Official Magazine UK
90 IGN AU
90 Wired
90 Games Radar
90 GamerNode
90 Gameplanet
90 GameSpy
90 TotalPlayStation
^^^those dropped your score^^^ and thats not counting the 10-15 reviews that range around 91 to 95. Now quick log onto one of those multi accounts and do a drive by disagree, bubble yourself up, and leave a comment pretending to agree with yourself.

Dunce

[Omega4]

When an underhyped game scores better than an overhyped game thats when you know its a good game

[snake-OO]

yea its only 1 site that scored it higher, and thats edge, and at this moment they will do anything to cause a controvesy to get hits on the site, also they are biased.

[CID]

It also scored higher than halo Wars

[mastiffchild]

Mate two points here:1,HotD has been pushed really hard by Sega and I've seen more ads for it than I have Killzone2(ie. 3-0)on TV. and 2, I wouldn't put much faith in Edge as reviews go.
I'm not saying they're biased, they aren't, but they do often hit a critically acclaimed game pretty hard(Mass Effect, Mirrors Edge, R2 etc etc)fr hits.

However, reviews are consistently giving this 8/10 which for a game in the rails shooter is incredible, imo, so it should be worth it.

BTW I wasn't saying KZ2 isn't hyped(on here it really is)but if I didn't go online or scour the games press I wuld have seen more of HotD.

[Omega4]

But are Edge really doing it for hits?

I thought they were more of a magazine than a website, since their actual site is more business based than review based

[mastiffchild]

Yeah, I think the ONLY explanation for Edge's continued contrary attitude(remember how often they do this to big games whether PS3/MS or multi)is to get hits and ensure ad revenue for the online side of things.

As I understand it Edge's hard copy magazine has circulation problems much like almost every other printed publication(you only have to see what hapened at 1up and EGM(?)the other week to see what I mean)and when people are cutting back on little luxuries your sub is the first thing to go.

I'm not saying the HotD score was wrong but I do wonder about the KZ2 score given their history with exclusive and big games on the HD consoles where they know they get this kind of reaction. I remember it with R2 and Mass Effect especially and , otherwise, I'm at a loss as to why they seem so often so out of step with the rest of their industry.What makes me wonder more is when they pick one game up for a fault that they didn't in others(Kilzone2) and when the words don't seem to match the score(Mass Effect).

Personally, I used to think Edge was a good read but over the past eighteen months I lost patience with them mainly over the way the score doesn't reflect the review and seems designed(cannot see why otherwise)to enflame and ensure traffic. I'm yet to see another reason as plausible and it's sad cos, truthfully, their guys, by and large, can't half write.

[specialguest]

So according to Edge, this light gun game must be light years better than one of the best RPGs today, Mass Effect. Hmm...somethings definately not right there.

[tuneraider]

I think when an overhyped game consistently scores high DESPITE its overhyping, that indicates an excellent game. Edge was trying to score some cheap hits with its troll of a review score and now its credibility is suffering.

[Omega4]

So why does everyone say that Halo 3 is crap, it was overhyped and it still got great scores

[tuneraider]

Because there's more to a game than hype and review scores. Halo 3 has already been out for a while, so people have played it and found their own experience didn't live up to the scores. Since KZ2 isn't out yet, it's too early to say whether it's been overhyped or not. BTW, why bring Halo into it? Defensive much?

[CID]

Fable 2 8.9 on Metacritic so its not AAA now?

[MegaMohsi]

1 site scored it higher and he's happy? That's kind've sad, 92 on metacritic for KZ2, Overkill isn't even AAA.

[nikola987]

"When ASKED how it felt to be rated higher than Killzone 2...."
soo he is just happy to hear that news,anyone would be ;)

[MegaMohsi]

Halo 3 was generic as well, Gears 2 was the same as Gears 1 with updated graphics and 1 added mode, these games shouldn't get a pass while Killzone gets destroyed for the same faults, that's why gaming journalism has become a joke

[razorbladelight]

you have a huge point which i bring up ever so often. i remember back in the ninety's, as a kid, i use to read all the gaming mags for sega/nintendo/and later psone. i dunno if it's nostalgia, or the fact that i was a kid, but i usually felt more like they were right back then since the majority of mags had roughly the same exact score. now a game like wii music has anything from a five to a perfect ten. wtf? how can a game like kz2 have a 9.5 and elsewhere a 7. i dunno, i take gaming journalism with a grain of salt and then some usually just reading their thoughts rather than seeing the actual scores.
The biggest isiue i see with reviews is how so many of them praise the game highly throughout the review calling it magnificent/enthralling,a masterpiece... and then give it an 8.5. it's daunting, but i would rather hear from a friend "yeah it's worth a rent" than any magazien now a days.

[rbbrdman]

I guess you take what you can get. I'm sure house of the dead is a game that they are proud of. But going out and saying

"OMG I'm soo happy that my game scored higher than KZ2. (in just 1 review). Is kinda shooting your load a little early. IMO

[tudors]

grow up children! are you gonna go on the defensive if a PSP or a DS game scores higher.

[blackpanther25]

"shakes Head"

wow did you even read the comment. Nobody is complaining about House of Dead's score. It is his statement "I skipped home with EDGE's review, we put a lot of effort into this game and I think that shows".

Talk about of topic. His statement could be (emphasis on could be) interpreted as the Dev team didn't work hard enough on killzone 2. For the love of god try to understand something before you post. Not everything is a freakin battle.

[wiizy]

only desperate fanboys rate killzone high. whats good about the same game with shinier graphics?

[Counter_ACT]

Maybe it's a fun game with shiny graphics? If anything House of The Dead Overkill is even more unoriginal since its ANOTHER rail shooter just like the old ones. Way to contradict yourself.

[Information Minister]

I can see why a Wii fanboy such as yourself would fail to acknowledge the awesomeness of KZ2.

But hey... At least you still have The Conduit. That one is sure to "attempt something a little different".

[badz149]

so...based on your opinion, all the other sites and mags out there except edge are fanboys? I'm pretty sure they rated KZ2 at least 9/10! talking about shinier graphic, what happen when Gears and then Gears2 were released on 360? fanboys went "BEST GRAPHIC EVER!!!" and when SMG was released on Wii, fanboys went "LOOKING MORE POLISHED THAN MANY NEXT-GEN GAMES!!" pfft...talking about being hypocrite! you don't like KZ2, fine! but don't ruin it for others!

[blackpanther25]

wow someone got owned

[jtucker78]

Wow - Wiizy - I mean, Overkill is only the second on rails shooter where you shoot zombies on the Wii and it's only the 5th House of the Dead in the series - sounds like pretty fresh gameplay right there.

I guess it must be much more innovative than a tactical FPS that implements snap to cover, character weight and utilises deferred rendering, but what do I know.

[wiizy]

i even understand why halo wars scored higher. even though its a clone too at least it attempts something a little different

[xCYPHERx]

The more you talk, the more you're starting to sound like a child. For starters, you're a complete HYPOCRITE! You knock on KZ2 for being unoriginal and not trying something differen't and at the sametime praising HotD like its the Sh##t! And don't even get me started on Halo Wars.

Why don't you just go grab your stick and play with it Wiiboy before these boys pwns you.

[Word2BigBird]

tool

[McLuvn]

Let's Tap

[Sir Ken_Kutaragi]

I'd rather skip home with a copy of 'Knitting Weekly'!!! Er erm ;-D

EDGE Magazine = BORING Zzzzzzzzzzzz

[Cetra]

Arcade shooter and fps genre are two different category. Having a higher review score doesn't mean House of the dead is better than Killzone 2.

Naturally Headstrong Games would of course reply that they are delighted. Its the interviewer who should be shot. Stupid question.

[Rikitatsu]

Thank you,sir.

[ChickeyCantor]

Why, i was to rampage that what you said.
Thank you =).

[myke6699]

Edge has been prove to give lower score to PS3 exclusive. Based on Metacritic score, Killzone is sitting at 92- Universal Acclaim (average of 49 reviews) while The House of the Dead: Overkill is at 79- Generall Favorable Review based on 17 reviews. If one review makes a game then GG should be skipping home with a handful of magazines that has given them scores above THotD:Overkill.

[Rikitatsu]

But EDGE gave LBP 10/10 !

[Sarcasm]

"But EDGE gave LBP 10/10 ! "

It's an exception, not a rule.

It's like someone kicks you in the nuts 17 times, then gives you a Red Bull. Then continues to kick you in the nuts.

Edge is doing the kicking to Sony's nuts.

[myke6699]

The fact that Media Molecules (LPS dev) is a english (brits) company helps since Edge is also known to favour local (Edge is based in England) companies- how provincial!

[EvilCackle]

Clearly the 10/10 score for LBP was in massive sarcasm quotes.

[time2die]

Look i actually have the game that popped throught the door yesterday and its average at best,the nintendi wii obviously struggles in the graphics department because the original house of the dead on the sega dreamcast some 10 years back looks and plays far better.

The gun and the wii sensor bar are basically all over the place and there is terrible skips during the actual gameplay.

The games fun but higher than Killzone is a joke,i also bought the hand cannon that goes with the game and like i said sega light guns from a decade ago are far more accurate and better to boot....period.

One thing i will say about the game is the foul launguage is the worst i have ever heard in a console game.

Forget GTA4 thats childs play and watch with mother compared to this,if you got kids steer well clear...

[redsquad]

I loved VIRTUA COP on Saturn. Wasn't so keen on HOD (was that Dreamcast? Can't honestly remember!) - Does this new one 'innovate' the lightgun game genre more than KZ2 'innovates' the FPS though?

[Nicknasty]

Trust me, its frikin sick!

[Firstkn1ghT]

A lot of games are rated higher than KZ2.

[mastiffchild]

Do you feel its your raison d'etre to try and wind people up that don't share your opinion FK? Lots of people disagree as you know so why the constant need to play your little reindeer game?

Do you think Gears2 would be rated as highly on metacritic had reviewers had any clue about the dreadful problems it suffers online? No, which makes your whole argument here pointless. I'm not knocking Gears2(think it's a great game)but I have to wonder why you seem so desperate for Killzone2(I was in the Beta and , honestly it's MP is amazingly good)to be a disappointment to people-trust me it won't let down anyone who plays it or loved the Beta.

[myothercar]

Mass Effect got a 7 from Edge. Oh, now suddenly the Xbots are gonna stop caring what Edge thinks.

[StephanieBBB]

Congratz to missing the whole point. KZ2 is basicly to Sony and the PS3 what Halo 3 was to Microsoft and the xbox360. One of the flagship titles.

Would xbots cry if EDGE gave Halo 3 a 7 because they said that your basicly doing the same thing as you've done in Halo 1 and 2? Yeah they would. Stop comparing potatos to carrots.

[xCYPHERx]

FK is Rudolf and he's leading the reindeer pack while Santa whips his a$$.

[FxckOSX]

so, where is HOD4 for PS3, sega??
I still waiting for it!

[xlx-russ_92]

i think Nintendo owns the IP for the game.

[FxckOSX]

should be got back

[time2die]

A lot of games are rated higher than KZ2.

Yeah by Edge magazine Only.................

[Darkseider]

He said EDGE. LOL! ROFLMAO!

[SpoonyRedMage]

I think you guys are overreacting. Is it not possible that both games are good? And Metacritic whilst a useful source for getting quick scores isn't very reliable as they could be 10 bad reviews and 7 good ones when there may be more good reviews than bad in total.

I think both games will be fun and whilst neither seems to innovate particularily they will still be enjoyable and immersive(except for the being a midget in KZ2, hope they sort that out).

[Magna Farta]

I think this guy is merely grabbing on the most polished turd on the block and running home with it.

He obviously knows about the KZ2 media sh!tstorm and is using EDGE's review as a catalyst to make himself feel better about his game, which truthfully, an on-rails shooter these days is like trying to be a mime on American Idol. They were okay back in the day, but I think games have evolved a little beyond to the point where a rail shooter just isn't gonna cut it as an all-around quality game anymore.

I remember playing HotD3 on Xbox....I finished it in 18 minutes.....seriously...18 f**king minutes. I don't know, just let the poor guy run home with his greasy-looking turd and let him be happy about it, as I highly doubt I'll beat KZ2 in 18 minutes.

[beowolf28]

wow take a deep breath

it will be alright..i promise

the game is about cheese and campy humor (which obviously you do not get)

beside what do u care you are going to buy kz anyway
also what response would you have liked him to give to the question

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

That gave me a really weird image...

The most polished turd??? I'm going to shoot myself now.

[Magna Farta]

*breathes deep* Thank you for that, I rolled with that a little too much considering I REALLY hated HotD3.

I understand cheese and campy humor just fine. I actually still have HotD2 for my dreamcast, and laugh at the horrendous dialogue.

I guess I just found it a little too opportunistic for this guy to take the fact that one publication rated his game better than KZ2, and make an article like this.

Besides, I hope the this game does just fine, it couldn't possibly be any worse than the third one.

@LeonSKennedy

sorry for that, I have an extremely vivid imagination, coupled with a large vocabulary, I tend to do a lot of unintended emotional damage to people when I try to be funny.

[beowolf28]

hey magna......sorry sometimes it hard to tell how serious people are

i agree the dialogue is so bad it good

yea i think that both used the most talk about game killzone to get some extra hits (you got to do what you got to do now a days)

i hope they both do well

i also agree that hotd3 was a step back but this looks like it maybe going in the right direction

[BMS84]

Because EDGE = PS3HATE

I am also don't believe that the developers really are thinking that their game is better than Killzone 2, one review and they are screaming it out, their average game is nothing compared to Killzone 2;)

[Nicknasty]

Killzone 2 is kinda overly hyped if you ask me. Its gonna be the same ole FPS with flashier graphics than the last. Dont be a robot and try the ultimate superior kick @ss game HOTD. Its slick and has a style that no other game has. To tell you the truth, its all about addictive and fun and thats what this game brings to the table. I have all the systems and cant stop playing this game because it frikin rocks!

[myothercar]

No wonder these HOTD guys are focusing on the EDGE review- it's the only reviewer that scored their game higher! :O

Sites that gave HOTD the higher score:
EDGE

Sites that gave Killzone 2 the higher score:
Gameplayer
GameInformer
IGN
Eurogamer
Games Radar
CVG
Videogamer
X-Play
Gamer.nl
GamePro
1up
Level7

Irrefutable, factual evidence! Lightbulb! :P

[xg-ei8ht]

Fak it's like a double edged sword in here.

[Ju]

...and yet they use KZ2 to promote their own game.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

This is a joke, right?

These guys think they're a good developer for making a mediocre rail shooter? This is so sad...

[Product]

its actually really good,have you played it?

[Ghyst]

"We thought we'd get grilled for making a run of the mill on rails shooter, but apparently not!!"

funny how edge calls out killzone 2 which is significantly better than this game, for being generic, when it isn't even close to as generic as this game! the devs even admit their game is generic and crappy lol. edge sucks.

The second funniest part is, "we got a review from a swedish mag, and they gave our game a 3/10, we took that as a compliment" and edge confirms their game with an 8/10. way to go edge!

[BrotherNick]

You guys worry too much about reviews. Go play your damn games lol.

[Product]

you guys always blown everything up and make things a bigger deal then you should.
This is a light gun game...its being judged based on other lightgun games...........if a lightgun game gets a 8 and a fps gets an 8 it doesnt mean they are the same it mens they are very good for the specific genre.

[Ju]

And the other one is a shooter (fps) game and should be judged in that respect, with the a same criteria as others. But seams its in their own league with its own criteria, where everything is multiplied by at least two. That said, it still got more then 5. KZ2, that is.

[Product]

Well im just saying a fps has more variables to judge and score then a lightgun game.Its only fitting to compare games of the same genre because of those variables.

[Ju]

Again. What are you trying to imply here. Just read the headline here. They (not we) compared KZ2 to their game.

[Product]

Did you read the article.They didnt bring it up the interviewer did.Read the article and stop spinning

[Ju]

Let me rephrase that: "Somebody else did compare those two games". Is that clear enough ?

[Ghyst]

Killzone 2 sure as hell is being judged against other games? why doesn't xbox or wii games get judged against other great games?

marios great, but why doesn't it have coop mode? hmm minus 1 point, hmm mario doesn't have a gun? wtffff omgg wtfbbq, -10 points, ok what's next... hmm, no zombies -1, no naked girls, -20, let's seeeeee, marios character model looks unrealsitic, and there's a pixel missing from his mustache -30!!! omg, wtffff a pixel error, omgggg faill faill, flooopp this game floops xbxox owns xbox liveeeee, microsoft micrsoft, live live, balls, sucking.

[Product]

It should be judged with other games in its genre......fanboys compare Killzone to Gears just to talk about whos penis is bigger when both are good for the genre they are in.How could you for instance compare a racing game to a RTS?

btw take some Ritalin.

[joevfx]

he should care more about what the masses think about his game then EDGE. A good EDGE review wont keep his company afloat in this economy. Lets see which games sells more. soemthing tells me it wont be house of the dead.

[Nicknasty]

Well i hate to break it to ya, but the PS3 is in last place. I own all 3 new systems and love my PS3, but right now HOTD is dominating any of my other games on all the systems. Do yourself a favor and play it first before you comment on a game that seriously blows away anything Killzone 2 will be bringing to the table. Nothing new im sorry to report, but great graphics. Its the same ole FPS that has overloaded the market. HOTD has style and is frikin slick. Sux you will never get to know!

[Ghyst]

Because last i checked, this game is a first person perspective shooter, just like killzone 2 is, and no other site is dumb enough to give this game a higher score than killzone 2.

Hell, one site even gave this game a 3/10, way to go edge with your 8/10!! you really showed how professional you are.

[Product]

Sorry you cant compare an on rails lightgun game to a fps.Besides the site that gave it a 3/10 was because of the over the top stuff like the swearing and the like.....thats why the devs took it as a compliment because thats exactly what they were trying to do.

I dont think this game should get a higher score then Killzone but i do think its the best lightgun game on wii and if you like lightgun games that actually means something.

[Ju]

Funny that you say that. Because the overall article is based on the makers referring edges KZ2 review to promote his own game. Strange when they have so nothing in common. Why even mention that ?

[Product]

@JU
"When asked how it felt to be rated higher than Killzone 2, lead producer Neil McEwan replied"

Why did he mention that you ask?
Doesnt sound like the dev did;Why would you say the dev brought it up when the interviewer obviously did?

[Ju]

Call it the dev, the article writer or what not. ...

If by your logic edge would have followed your (!) guideline, they would have compared KZ2 with games in their own genre. Correct.

But somehow, this logic seams odd, because it was compared to I don't know what. Not to FPS games, or else I cannot explain, why things mattered for KZ2 which did obviously not have any impact on games reviewed by edge for games of that genre we thought KZ2 is part of.

Now, you argue against the article while at the same time justify the score. I just don't get it where you're coming from here. w/e I'm outa here.

[Product]

@ Ju
Let me recap your quotes
"based on the makers referring edges KZ2 review to promote his own game"
"..and yet they use KZ2 to promote their own game"
"Call it the dev, the article writer or what not. ..."

If you cant understand that it was the interviewer bringing up the Edge review and not the devs sorry but you're wrong...read the article

"When asked how it felt to be rated higher than Killzone 2, lead producer Neil McEwan replied: "

How did you not understand that the devs didnt bring it up from that sentence?
You have replied to me like 6 times now and not one of those times did you ever put 2 +2 together.

BTW:
"But somehow, this logic seams odd, because it was compared to I don't know what. Not to FPS games, or else I cannot explain, why things mattered for KZ2 which did obviously not have any impact on games reviewed by edge for games of that genre we thought KZ2 is part of. "

Dude go b!tch to Edge about this not me i dont care about Edge even if you do;but I do care about people thinking the devs brought the question up though when they were clearly asked it.

[user3915800]

But without the first game’s ambiguities,‭ ‬a sense of humour or even an ounce of‭ ‬intrigue,‭ ‬its story stinks.‭ ‬It’s so slight you could play the levels in random order to‭ ‬little ill-effect,‭ ‬and it assumes knowledge of everything and everyone,‭ ‬not once recognising the real-world echoes of its premise:‭ ‬an allied invasion of an enemy‭ ‬the allies themselves created.‭ The users or players of the game states that the game its worth a 6.3 out off 10. And if you look at the score form metacritic ALL 100's came from the sony internet supporting sites, another blow to the droids. The game its a 7 at best and another blow to the hype sh!t from sony.

[bigjclassic]

If you want to be a "hardcore" gamer, get all the consoles and all the top games and ignore reviews. That is how to stay sane this gen.

Btw: HoTD Overkill is great, but not as fun as you may think.

[Silent]

After trying to playing CoD4:WaW on Wii, I was done. Ill stick to (simple) games when it comes to Wii.

[BMS84]

I m extremely happy with the 6.7 :P

[Smacktard]

hahahah oh god that is awesome.

Headstrong are master trolls. I love them now.

I also plan on buying that game.

[Ghyst]

I didn't know ign, eurogamer, gametrailers, 1up, gamesradar, g4tv, gaming nexus, mega-gamers, meristation, play uk, and gamepro, among many others were ps3 owned... geez sony owns alot of companies. haha

[Picnic]

Sorry- deleted

[Nicknasty]

Believe it people, its frikin top notch! I love my PS3 and will be getting Killzone2 when it comes out, but this game has just got a kind of style that games have been lacking for so long. You really would have to play it to see what im talking about. There is an overload of first person shooters these days, so like it or not Killzone 2 will be nothing really new to us gamers that we havent really all done before. The graphics are about the only real thing you can look forward to with that game. Other than that its gonna be pretty much the same type of FPS game. Ive been playing games since Atari 2600 and have pretty much owned about every game system that has come out over the years. I can honestly say that HOTD is just the type of game the Dr. ordered. Give it a try because you will not be able to put it down. Im hooked right now on it and have lots of other PS3 and 360 games just sitting here waiting to be finished. Its highly addictive!

[pushergreen]

Sony is gonna be in big ass trouble if this game does not sell really really really fukn well! No wonder all the sony butthurt wannabes are crying about edge review lol. It is just one review get over it fukrs.

[ps12&3lover]

its dumb that you say that cuz if you would do your homework you would know that killzone 2 is # 1 in amazon.com,gamespot, and play.com...plus it has over a million preorders already and that was a month ago..so know what your talking about be4 u open your mouth..i wpuld like to know how this wack a$$ house of the dead will sell

[ikkeweer]

this game's the only reason I'd buy a Wii for right now

[resistance022]

of course

[TheLaughingMan]

this is stupid BS.
FEAR 2 got rated higher then killzone in edge magazine.
Game journalist are #%$&%$& idiots these days.
Fear was LAME.
oh and halo wars looks nothing more then the star wars edition of Age of Empires.

[Nexy]

Actually being rated higher than Killzone 2 is not THAT big deal any more... :-)

[LiquifiedArt]

It was completely based on story aspect (which i think is pretty good). All i read throughout the entire review was, Dialoge, Story, Cliche...

ITs a Freaking SHOOTER. The story is just as good as any other shooter. 7/10 is complete horseshat and EDGE you have lost many readers because of it. Obviously you were looking at the game to be critical and it shows. But i've played the demon and i can tell you just by 10mins of play, its a 9/10. A standard High Profile great game.

[nickb]

AS a 360 fan to sony fans you guys got jipped

[FF7numbaone]

edge = gabe nowell alliance. I have never seen a group of professional hate the ps3 so much.

[n4gno]

You can't compare wii and ps3 rating, and games !

[shutterspeed]

Yeah...I'll gladly trade Killzone 2 for HOTD. I mean, HOTD is awesome, but you can't be THAT much of a stupid fanboy to say it's better than KZ 2.

[iceman2885]

Which I'm sure I'll get ripped for.

But while reading the Edge review for Killzone 2, a lot of the criticism was for lack of originality.

Having said that, what was so 'original' about House of the Dead Overkill that it didn't deserve to be docked equally?

[xabmol]

Does it have co-op?

Is this lightgun railshooter innovative?

[Product]

@xabmol
Co-op 2 player with dual wield(4 guns for 2 players)
Exclusive Madworld trailer not out yet as an unlockable and 3 different difficulties(2 you must unlock)
Once you beat the game on Story mode you get Directors mode where there are twice as many enemies and the levels are extended considerably.Dual wield is unlocked once you beat that.

This game brings a nice and different style and story from what you are used to playing from HotD of the past.

This game blows Resident Evil:UC away lets just put it like that.I have both and the only thing RE:UC has over Overkill is the amount of levels you play but this game steps up in every other catagory ....especially in dismemberment which i think this game does very well.

This has about 100 unlockable achievements including a dual wield mini-gun(2 player co-op minigun dual wield is crazy).

This is the definitive rail shooter this gen imo but honestly this game should have been rated Adults Only not Mature.If you play this game youll see that it should have been banned somewhere for the stuff they somehow get away with in the game.The ending is prolly the nastiest ending ive ever seen.

Ill just give you this as an example,you steal an ice cream truck and on the back of the truck it says"The ice cream man is coming.......open wide" and next to it has a picture of a girl with a popsicle in her mouth if you catch my drift.The soft server ice cream machine inside the truck is named"the Cream Squirt" and the different ice creams range from the "Cream Deluxe" to the "Filthy 69"............and no i am not joking......i dont understand how they got an M rating and what i described above is the soft stuff in the game.

[xabmol]

Does it have online co-op?

Is this lightgun railshooter innovative?

Do we fight the pedo bear? o.0

[lowkey db josh]

I dont know why ps3 owners worry sure they gave the game a crap score but its published by a company who is looking to have theyre name in the news an we're giving it to them.. dont worry about score just buy the game play it an enjoy it.. if soo just worry for the sales figures to come out an see who ends up laughing last.. ;)

[darkdoom3000]

How convenient based off KZ2 lowest reivew score. -which is 2 points under its avrage.

Still, i like HotD games. Actually i just like light gun shooters. only bought Time crisis 1 WITHOUT gun. rest i jus play in arcades. wanted to buy TC4, but too expensive.

[GravyPie]

I haven't read Edge magazine for a while now, because they simply review things according to how much reaction they will garner from the internet backlash.
There is no such thing as bad publicity.
I will say one thing though. Edge magazine and all the people associated with it can kiss me where I poo.

[swinesucker]

Pfft!