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Lens of Truth: Head2Head - Bioshock

Lens of Truth writes; "We go in-depth and get to the bottom on which version of Bioshock you should be playing in this Head2Head. Wow, that was deep. A boat load of more puns inside."

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Jinxstar5569d ago

Stupid Article.

Pc Version trumps all. BTW it leaves out Extra content in the final analysis and the comparisons look shoddy to me. Maybe it's true or maybe it's pre patch screens. Either way it's a lame article.

jaidek5569d ago

If you read the article they mention that the patches fix various issues. Also, their site covers consoles only so there is no purpose in including the PC version.

When will people realize that it is pointless in comparing consoles to PC. Sigh...

Jinxstar5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

Left out? Not really. I have the PC version. Got it super cheap off Steam over the holidays.

It still totally leaves out the PS3 additions to the game.

Screens are BS from any site that has any form of Bias. Show me 3 other articles from this site pro PS3(Published by them not a link ala N4G to some other site for info) and i will retract my submission. I really don't know this site and the article is not from any named people in the industry. just some dude with photoshop and some time on his hands.

No cred, Leaving out info and all around not a well done comparison. Complaining of installs and so forth... Things we have all heard before and this is flame bait and not a needed article in anyway.

evildeli5569d ago

"Show me 3 other articles from this site pro PS3(Published by them not a link ala N4G to some other site for info) and i will retract my submission."

Check their Head2Head page. There's your 3 PS3.

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

jaidek5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

I would say that more than 50% of the articles on N4G are written by no names. And in terms of bias, I don't see that in this article. The author complimented on the fact that the port was done well. It was just that the 360 version was stronger. That's all.

As for DLC, I am not sure that should factor into the outcome. As it is not included in the initial purchase.

RudeSole Devil5569d ago

Point me to another website that did a comparison for Bio-Shock for consoles. I have the 360 version and PC version of Bio Shock and both are almost identical. If the PS3 version was superior than I would need to have it. Thank god for sites like the Lens of Truth and euro-gammer letting multiplatform owners know the truth.

Jinxstar5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

Nope your right. Sorry. I retract everything. There is no Bias here and everything is up to snuff. The fact that other articles are written by no name sites makes this one perfectly legit. Along with everything about it. Factor in everything and this is a totally balanced article and no ill intentions behind it at all apart from wanting to spread the love. I retract everything and apologize profusely. You have all made me humble and fully aware of how much of an idiot I am. YOU WIN!

Might I add the editing and professionalism in this article is top notch. Although we rarely follow the rules and approve articles that are agains't them such as Jaidek has above. It is not worth mentioning that the standards need to be dropped from time to time to approve these wonderful comparisons. You guys have proven me wrong i should be banned to the open zone for not knowing anything.

Now I have more important things then argue with the likes of you like watch "The Simpsons" as you obviosly don't see anything wrong with this... Genius

Aaron Greenterd5569d ago

looks like the "lens of truth" has some mud on it

2 bioshock screens? really? they both look terrible.

i think it's safe to say that the only reason to do these comparisons is to show that the 360 is the better version, and if you are out to prove that, then obviously your agenda isn't above board.

can't wait to see the killzone 2 comparison.

Soul Train5569d ago

"any named people in the industry"!? Like who? The people at IGN, who took text out of their PS3 review of Fallout 3 that detailed it's technical shortcomings? Or Gamespot, who fired an editor for giving Assassin's Creed a bad score? Your no cred line is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. If you don't like it, just don't comment.

jaidek5569d ago

I agree that two roll overs are weak. But the actual article covered that both versions were very close in terms of visuals.

I disagree that the only reason to do comparisons is to show that the Xbox 360 is superior. The purpose is to inform which has the overall better experience for the same price. Sometimes it's the PS3 and sometimes it's the Xbox 360. Just to blindly assume that the (insert console name) version is more polished without research is quite foolish.

evildeli5569d ago

The point of a comparison is to show the similarities and differences. In Bioshock's case there's a lot more similar then bad, which is good for the consumers.

Aaron Greenterd5569d ago

and to blindly assume that these games are so different that the need to do yet another comparison to show 1 fps slower on 1 or the other is just as silly.

there are a ton of reviews and screenshots all over the web comparing bioshock ps3 to bioshock 360. and most of them are better than "the lense of truth" and the 2 crappy screenshots it has.

when you guys get up to speed on things, let me know. thanks.

jaidek5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

That's your opinion. I for one would want to be informed no matter how small the differences.

Also, they have 14 screen shots of the game, thanks. They just happen to have two roll over comparisons. It is so funny how everyone gets all worked up over comparisons. Take them for what they are and move on. I mean, for once be happy that a Xbox 360 port on the PS3 is this close.

Legion5569d ago

Who cares? This is an old game....

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sugard05569d ago

Once upon a time, there was Killzone 2.

The End
Nuff said

Baron795569d ago

Why do people continuously mention Killzone 2, when absolutely nothing about the game is even being talked about here? Shut up with your Killzone 2 please, the artical is on a comparison of Bioshock.

And BTW, K2 won't hold a candle to this gem in the story and single player areas. Peace!

GiantEnemyCrab5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

Was the first time we went thru this so popular we need to do it again?

I think it's safe to say whatever version you get is going to be good. I played the demo on PS3 after many play thrus on the 360 and it looks so close to identical you won't notice a difference.

The days of the multiplatform games being completely crap on the PS3 were over the first year. Yes, there might be some games that look or perform better on the 360(or vice versa) the difference is so small it's not worth arguing over anymore. For multiconsole owners there are bigger things to consider when choosing which platform like online service or exclusive DLC. Why do you think MS is working hard on the exclusive DLC front.

Unicron5569d ago

Word.

Now THESE kind of arguments are the E-peen flaunting you were talking of before.

JD_Shadow5569d ago

They also completely omitted the exclusive DLC that Sony got in the challenge rooms, and the Bioshock 2 trailer is on the disc (I do believe it's avaliable SOMEWHERE on XBL). Not sure how they did THAT.

Oh, and is it me, or were the comparisons a little weird? When I rolled over the pics, the X360 pics were a bit darker in comparison. Not sure why that was. Does the 360 version have darker lightening compared to the PS3 version?

I DO admit that the install was a bit longer than it had to be, though. That I DO agree with them on. Good thing it's just a one time thing.

CBaoth5569d ago (Edited 5569d ago )

As a multi-console owner, I have no problem admitting the 360 version overall is a little better. But not to the extent that this site is proclaiming. Why isn't the DLC mentioned since it definitely levels out the playing field? Like Crab said, look at MS's recent strategy with DLC and tell me it shouldn't factor into the decision (GTA4, TR:U, and FO3). And if we're going to do a fair analysis, why isn't there a box for AUDIO? A definite sound advantage for those of us with a good Home Theatre System should factor in the comparison.

Listen, if you're a huge fan of bioshock and have a PS3, check out the challenge rooms (DLC). Just like the full game, these 3 scenarios require a little forethought, have time trials, optional collectibles, and level specific challenges like powering up a ferris wheel X amount of times. Best of all, with trophy support, you achievement whores have 14 extra and unique trophies to collect in the PS3/DLC version.

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DelbertGrady5569d ago

Hmmm, I think I played this game...way back in 2007.

REALgamer5569d ago

I don't see any problems with this article.

The 360 version does look slightly better and having played Bioshock on both consoles (yes I own both) I can say the 360 does seem to have a smoother framerate.

HOWEVER, this is to be expected, NOT because the 360 is more powerful or anything like that. Bioshock was originally created with the 360 as its primary platform and ported to PC. It was optimised for 360, and as a result looks and plays great.

The ps3 version is a port, and running on the Unreal Engine 3 which is known to have issues with the ps3 due to its focus on GPU rendering rather than the ps3's strength in its CPU.

This doesn't mean the ps3 has worse graphics than the 360, it just means this game running on this engine isn't quite as successful. Killzone 2 looks amazing on ps3 because it was developed for ps3, Bioshock looks amazing on 360 because it was developed for 360 and later ported to ps3 with an engine that was never optimised for ps3 use.

I appreciate these articles because I own both consoles and when great third-party games are released I like to get the version that looks the best or has a smoother framerate. For multiplatform games it has NOTHING to do with the overall power of either console, it's just a matter of which was used as the primary console during development and what engine is being used since some focus on CPU (best for ps3) and some focus on GPU (best for 360).

Either way, you get a great game.

yanikins1115569d ago

Oh noes!

Someone calmly stating strong and weak points of each console O_o

Bubbles for the level head

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Gareth, Justin, and Michael at Skewed and Reviewed look at timely and topical entertainment news on their latest show including the latest video game movie and news of another in the works.

ROCKY28195d ago

The movie was absolutely garbage !!!
BH needs to do better - since Halloween Ends - Exorcist , Freddy is Shyte - STOP IT !!!!

Garethvk195d ago

Didn't the creator write it? It also made a fortune based on the budget so from a business standpoint it is a massive success.

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Why BioShock Deserves the Dead Space Remake Treatment

Dead Space recently received a popular remake that was faithful yet constructive, and the original BioShock is also deserving of this treatment.

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banger88404d ago

No it doesn't need it. It was remastered in 60 fps last gen and still looks and plays great. Would be a waste of time, money and resources imo. It's games from 3 or 4 gens back that could use the remake treatment.

FallenAngel1984404d ago

There have already been 7th gen remakes of games already

Dead Space in particular already proves that just because a game looks good on original hardware doesn’t mean it cant look and play better

Jin_Sakai404d ago

Agreed although I’m ready for some new groundbreaking IP this generation.

IamTylerDurden1403d ago (Edited 403d ago )

Agreed. Remasters already happened and still look n play fantastic. DS was a different animal. It needed a remake, Bioshock doesn't NEED it. Infinite Remastered for example is extremely viable even today. What we do need is Bioshock 4. Rumors that equated to zip. Where is it? Ken really blew the pooch as well. Left to go do what? He was inspired by Tell Tale or something and went off to become irrelevant. Nice. And Bioshock Vita was scrapped. Fantastic.

toxic-inferno403d ago

Bioshock 4 is definitely still in development. News trickles out about it every couple of months.

And Ken's next game (Judas) looks great from the teaser trailer.

IamTylerDurden1403d ago (Edited 403d ago )

Yeah. Pretty much. I understand why they did it with TLOU to coincide with the show but certainly it didn't NEED a remake desperately. Obviously u are trolling and expect me defend anything Sony but idgaf about all that. I say what i feel is the truth.

Just like TLOU i wouldn't be upset if Bioshock received a remake but it doesn't desperately need it. I'd probably even play it bc like TLOU, i love Bioshock, but in these aren't identical scenarios either. Ppl kill ND for TLOU Remake yet it wasn't even their project originaly. It started as a potential Uncharted remake and passion project via Visual Arts and was passed to Bend i believe? ND took over bc the project obviously wasn't where it needed to be. And yet they still had Factions and possibly TLOU 3 in development as well. Bioshock has been dormant for a decade bar the remaster. Rumors of a sequel haven't materialised. A remake without a sequel would be disappointing. TLOU Remake is more tolerable knowing sequel/spinoffs are in development. Like i said, dif situation.

neutralgamer1992403d ago

It's not all about looks only

Tweaks to story
Tweaks to characters
Improvements to gameplay

Original bioshock have the worst puzzle solving system and can get frustrating quickly

WiiU-Dude402d ago

The last part you said I agree COMPLETELY!!! Game companies need to mine games from the Sega Saturn, PS1 and N64 days and even the Dreamcast, GameCube, and PS2 days to give a full update to. I know those would require more work, but there are PLENTY of gems from those days that people would LOVE to play again or for the first time with a facelift!!! I know I would.

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Binarycode403d ago

The games that need remaking are.

Resistance fall of man.
Motorstorm.

PS5 would produce something special.

There's been such an advancement in tech since the PS3 days. It would be awesome. DAY 1 BUY for me.

Storm23403d ago

I would kill for Resistance 1-3 Remake/Remaster. Same with MotorStorm series and Killzone series. Man, I loved my PS3. Can we also get the Metal Gear series and rescue MGS4 off the PS3? There is a rumor of MGS3 getting a remake. One of, if not my number 1, favorite game of all time.

On topic, I played Bioshock like 6 months after release after hearing from everyone and their mother how incredible it was. I know I will be in the minority on this, but I couldn't get into it. I think my expectations were too high. Totally my fault. Maybe I should give it another chance...

IamTylerDurden1403d ago (Edited 403d ago )

Agreed, Killzone as well, but Sony has no interest in the future of those IP. It won't happen. If they cared about Motorstorm they wouldn't have axed Evolution. The last remaster from a dead studio "Wipeout" was exceptional yet nobody supported it. Even with a free VR inclusion. If ppl want these remasters...actually support the ones that release. Medievil same thing. Ppl cried for Demon's Souls Remake, The Last Guardian, Shenmue 3 and the sales didn't match the cries. None of these games sold as u would imagine given the internet pleas for these titles over a decade or more. DeS Remake did alright but given the circumstances it should've sold better. 92 Meta, PS5 launch exclusive, stunning visuals, and the first of the genre in an age where Eldin Ring will push 30 million units. Yes, DeS is only one platform but still.

Binarycode401d ago

I do agree mostly with what you said.

I bought killzone,2,3. Did not like 4 other then it's graphics.

I bought infamous 1,2. Second son never did it for me apart from again the graphics, so parts were good. But world felt too empty. Probably needed a PS5 to do it justice.

Bought all the Resistance and Motorstorms, those games were awesome. They 100% need a remake.

PS3 was just an awesome machine, I know it was a pain to develop for, but it had some many titles that I loved.
I really enjoyed the Bioshock series, the first 2 were best. Very good games.

As for Demon souls.and the souls series in general. They never have had massive sales. I think because they are very hard games. we are talking a million or less. I think the remaster did 1.4million.

Motorstorm pacific rift did 1.4million PS3.I think.

Hopefully some of them will come back.

-Foxtrot403d ago

I would love this

Expand on the lore

Incorporate Bioshock Infinite and Bioshock 2 plot lines

Add room rooms or maybe even an extra area

Maybe new plasmids

Give Jack a personality and add voice acting, it worked for Isaac. Jack did speak at the start of the game so adding onto that and giving him convos between Atlas or Ryan would be great

Aussiesummer403d ago

Man could you imagine what bioshock would look like in ue5 with full raytracing, phwaaarrrhh.

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