Americas Sales for the Week Ending January 31, 2009

The week ending January 31, 2009 saw a rise in console sales compared to both the previous year and the previous week. Total video game hardware sales grew 31% from the previous week due to replenishing product supply and the distribution of tax rebate checks. Wii sold nearly 320,000 units to lead, nearly three times the volume of any other console and close to ten times the volume of what PS2 sold for the week. Even the DS was topped by Wii by 33%. Sony's PS3 saw only a 12,000 unit jump in sales from the previous week, allowing Microsoft's Xbox 360 to outsell PS3 by 80% this week.

Wii - 318,863
DS - 240,014
XBox 360 - 116,543
PSP - 87,189
PS3 - 65,269
PS2 - 31,542

[Joey Greco RULES]

:(

[Capt CHAOS]

Wait there.. I head a trampeed.. Here they come..

[creeping judas]

whats a "trampeed"???

[chrisnick]

but i think sony needs to discontinue the ps2, they're making money of it and selling alot of consoles with the 3 combined, but i think its hurting ps3 sales. Then again, if they're still not making a profit off of the ps3 i know they are with the ps2 and psp...but i think in america at least...it may be time for them to umm..."microsoft" the old black beast.

[Nuch Vader]

Yeah, they should discontinue Playstation 2 and re-implement Backward compatibility into Playstation 3.

[JhawkFootball06]

Seems like xbox 360 is always ahead of ps3 in sales....thats a good thing

[Voiceofreason]

He means "Stampede", just excuse him. Sony fan trying to take away from what the article is saying because Sony is in last place yet again.
When PS3 is winning though he'll be here to cheer it on and talk about how important those sales numbers are when they reflect well on his chosen console.

[silvacrest]

fanboy much?

[Pennywise]

Oh the typical crowd is here. No doubt.

Well, 360 sold more. It is the bestest console in the whole entire worldzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Better?

[Kushan]

Discontinuing the PS2 won't do them any good at all. Do the maths, even if you assumed that if the PS2 was discontinued, anyone who was about to buy it bought a PS3 instead, it still wouldn't have outsold the 360. Combined sales of the PS3 and PS2 are 96,811.
Sony actually makes money off the PS2's hardware, so they're not dumping it any time soon - and nor should they.

[cereal_killa]

chrisnick & Nuch Vader

I have to disagree its the profits of the PS2 and PSP that is keeping the PS3 from going into more debt until they can get manufacturing cost down to turn a profit on its own the PS2 should stay.

[SRU9600]

I thought Killzone 2 was going to sell consoles? :D

Oh well, there is always (insert overhyped game here).

[PirateThom]

Killzone 2 isn't out for 3 weeks...:-/

[gamesmaster]

wonder what worldwide sales figures will be like, very differant to these i would think.

but then again america is the only country in the world isn't it?

[iHEARTboobs]

The game isn't even out yet, genius. If you really want to see if it sold consoles you'd have to look at the end of Feb, and march sales.

@Voice: Being a tool isn't cool.

edit: @SRU9600 - Yeah i've heard it's supposed to move some consoles. But usually, if a game is credited with moving consoles it's within the time period of the games release.

[SRU9600]

The hype alone was supposed to move millions of PS3's, hadn't you heard?

[soxfan2005]

"Killzone 2 isn't out for 3 weeks...:-/"

It's not out yet? But I thought it had already been crowned game of the year, decade, and century already?

[Joey Greco RULES]

normally I would say "oh man, its just vgchartz, ignore it and wait for NPD".
But lately, NPDs numbers have shown even BIGGER gaps between the 3, which is even worse news for the Sony kids out there.

Anyway, like I said, NOTHING NEW HERE. Call that a fanboy comment if you like, but if you check the past history of the sales charts, you'll see the trend. Thats a fact, not an opinion. Get over it.

And If sony wants to make some more money, they could start by making EVERY PS3 backwards compatible with PS2. Its not a solution, but its a start. (and no, im not saying scrap the ps2 either)

[SRU9600]

"but then again america is the only country in the world isn't it?"

No, just the only one that matters.

[soxfan2005]

The US is not the only country that matters, but it is, by FAR, the largest as far as sales. The US alone accounts for 30-40% of all worldwide sales - no other country even comes close.

[SRU9600]

That was my point, soxfan2005.

For that reason, american gamer's desires drive the market.

[gamesmaster]

"american gamer's desires drive the market."

"its just the only country that matters"

yeah........ 30 to 40% of the gaming market is the only bit that matters, that other +60% is irrelevant.

ignorance is bliss

[SRU9600]

America pwns the world.

Deal with it.

[Bladestar]

@gamesmaster - yeah... because Sony controls 100% of the %60 the other region represent. Right?

Let's also not forget that a developer rather the 40% you are trying to undermined are under one set of rules and 1 language. The 60% you are referring to represent many languages and regions many of which some developers do not even ship their games to. Many games do not even come out in countries like Germany.

You are not looking at the big picture.

At developer can make 1 game in English and capture 40% of the game industry not to mention the UK and other English speaking countries which is kind of funny but the xbox 360 kind of controls over the PS3...

Yeah.. sure the PS3 sales well in Japan, Germany, Spain and other countries... but developer also have to spend a ton of money localizing those games, shipping it and dealing with each government set of rules and bans.

You have to do a little more reading when it comes to global marketing. You have a better chance of generating more revenue by selling a product to the same target audience and demographic than to try to market it a bunch of people from different countries and cultures. 100 console and games at a time. This is why Kill Zone 2 will never sell as much as Halo 3 can. Because FPS appeals more to the west and the PS3 does not lead in the west.

I do not have to try to explain this much... why do you think the PS3 is on 3rd? Did you know that Sony sold 60-70% of all PS2 games and consoles in the US?

You see.. it's proven the xbox 360 can still be on top of the PS3 without Japan, Germany and France... lol... that's the case now... but the PS3 will always be on 3rd unless they control the US and the UK region since they represent the biggest pie.

@Edit:

@gamesmaster - now you sound desperate. Where in my comment do I say, "but to say its the only one that matters is just plain ignorant."? Which is strange because you kind of, "i get your point that usa is the most significant market,"..

the point I am trying to make is. The US is the most significant region for the game industry and as proven this generation. The xbox 360 does not need Japan, Germany or France to beat the PS3 in terms of global sales.

If Sony want to move up the ladder and not stay on 3rd they are going to have to beat the xbox 360 in UK and the US. Period.

[gamesmaster]

what are you talking about, where does microsoft and sony come in to mine and sru's debate..

we're talking about regions and what market impact they have, dont bring your console war to me, i dont want to hear it.

where did i say 60% is sony, when did i even mention sony? are you seeing things? and what you think that 40% usa market is purely micosoft. get over yourself.

from sru's post it was clear that he thinks the rest of the world is irrelevant i was pointing out that it clearly isn't. take your fanboy goggles off and realise that not everybody is in MS or sony's corner.

EDIT: i get your point that usa is the most significant market, but to say its the only one that matters is just plain ignorant.

EDIT: why are you talking about ps3 and xbox sales? it was never even part of my debate, this is my point, i just said that console sales figures are irrelivant to mine and sru's debate yet thats all you EVER talk about. just stop. I AGREE THAT USA IS MOST SIGNIFICANT MARKET!!!! i'm saying that you cant ignore the rest of the world. what is your problem? do you view everyone as either ps3 or xbox fanboys? i feel sorry for you.

this is the bottom line, and this is where you have completely missed my point.

usa is most significant market, but to ignore the rest of the worlds markets is short sighted. to which you reply, blah blah xbox sales blah blah 3rd place ps3 blah blah blah WHAT THE **** DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY POINT!

[Strikepackage Bravo]

should not discontinue the PS2 because right now it is competing with the 360 arcade. If they drop the PS2 those buyers will go to the Arcade, not the PS3.

People in the market for a 150 to 200 dollar console don't just go pickup 400 to 500 dollar consoles on a whim.

[heroicjanitor]

Also MS controls 100% of America. Sony has a bigger share of the rest of the world. Microsoft has a bigger share in America. But 360 was out a year earlier.

[gamesmaster]

its clear that no matter how i try to get my point accross it just wont work. unless i speak in terms of console sales nothing will ever penetrate your skull.

i'm not arguing for or against any console, infact consoles dont even come into it, which is what i'm trying to say.

[Pennywise]

Bladestar I have such a hard time taking anyone seriously who cant tell the difference between sales and sells.

[ThatCanadianGuy]

LOL! Bladestar..

I can't help but laugh every time i read one of his comments.
I always picture this obese 15 year old foaming at the mouth
While trying to convince everyone he's right..

[Why dis]

He never said:

"but to say its the only one that matters is just plain ignorant."

I stop reading your comments after that PS3 fan forced argument tactic.

Theres no *LOL* about it, PS3 is getting beat.

[gamesmaster]

are you referring to me? ps3 fan forced argument tactic?

so i see you've labeled me as a ps3 fan already, same way you do to anyone that has a different point of view to yours.

well done, you succeed at being as short sighted as bladestar right now.

you know the entire world isnt only ps3 and xbox fanboys.

[Danja]

well all systems still doing pretty good numbers Wii is out of this world...

PS3 sales will rise eventually.....not worried one bit...dont see wat all the jib-jabbing above is for...

the 360 sells more than the PS3 wasn't this expected ?? N4G hasn't changed one bit since 2007....lol

[Homicide]

"Oh the typical crowd is here. No doubt."

You mean the Sony boys who try to spin anything negative about the PS3 by stating "sales don't matter, just wait for ________ game, they got paid by MS or this website is biased against PS3."

[Pennywise]

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well all systems still doing pretty good numbers Wii is out of this world...

PS3 SELLS will rise eventually.....not worried one bit...dont see wat all the jib-jabbing above is for...

the 360 SALES more than the PS3 wasn't this expected ?? N4G hasn't changed one bit since 2007....lol

^Just a quick edit so Bladestar can understand it.

@homicide I was referring to the same crowd in every single sales article.zzzzzzzzzz GAMES>SALES. I dunno maybe that is an old school gamers mentality. But you know... I have my weakness's too --Like not being able to resist pouncing on the imbeciles.

[dantesparda]

The 360 fanboys are out in droves on this article eh? Both sides like vgchartz when it agrees with them and hate it wont it dont. Youse are both the same, just fanboys.

And Voice of Treason, Chaos is a 360 fanboy, dumb@ss!

[Mini Mario]

""but then again america is the only country in the world isn't it?"

No, just the only one that matters."

yeh real nice. And to those who agreed. Shame on u.

Europe, Japan, Australia/NZ..we dont matter. Uh huh

"America pwns the world.

Deal with it. "

Offical Douche bag

@SOX

"The US is not the only country that matters, but it is, by FAR, the largest as far as sales. The US alone accounts for 30-40% of all worldwide sales - no other country even comes close."

So ur saying.......that your 30-40% is more than the 60-70% thats left over from the other countries>>>>? Who cares about if it has the most sales of ONE country. ONE country doesnt buy all the games/consoles

MIGHTY DOUCHE

"No, just the only one that matters."

No ONE of MANY that matters

[paul-p1988]

2 things to not worry about here

1: Its only america, and they only seem to love the 360 (which, for the life of me, i cant work out why considering they break all the time).
and 2: its a fact that people hold off buying a console until a bundle they want turns up. Wait till the end of this month and the 360 will be getting dominated as the Killzone 2 bundles get released.

Doesnt bother me though, im in a different part of the world that realises that once they have been shafted once, they tend not to go back for a second offering :)

[panasonic23]

awesome.

[happyface]

wtf r u high?

this numbers aren't awesome, ps3 is getting destroyed, are you just a xbox fan?

[Joey Greco RULES]

did you ever consider why he/she said that?
did you ever consider it, WITHOUT using fanboy logic?
Probably not, but let me help you--

ITS AWESOME BECAUSE:
because he/she like video games in general.
because he/she is glad to see the gaming market do so well.

dont be such a tool..

[Silellak]

Yeah! What do you mean "awesome"!? How dare you be an XBox fan on N4G? Your kind is not welcome here! Differing opinions are for losers and communists!

The fact that hardware solid increased from last week is irrelevant unless it's the PS3 that's succeeding!! IF SONY CAN'T BE FIRST THEN WHO CARES ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF THE REST OF THE MARKETPLACE?!

[sak500]

Well said man +bubbles.

Anyway, this is VG charts we all know how they fared when their predictions for ps3 turned out to be higher than actuals.

[heroicjanitor]

Happyface is a huge 360 fanboy, and was being sarcastic.

[xT-Virusx]

seems to be doing very good then. At this point i dont see why fanboys argue because neither one of the three consoles will be leaving. The competition by the way will only drive each company to do better so good news for me.

[Socomer 1979]

65,269 more online players and 87,189 more psp wi-fi users !
awesome. If i tap your shoulder on the street its because you have a psp and i want to battle via game sharing. dont be afraid i only want to challenge my limits.

[wiizy]

this is the year wii pulls away for good. with great games and a possible price drop. its widely expected to own january. so haters time to cry again.

[panasonic23]

the wii is on another planet.

[SiLeNt KNighT]

barbies sell millions every year also...

[Mini Mario]

"barbies sell millions every year also..."

Funny u should say that coz "barbie" (the doll) really made a name for herself in a game on the ps2, such as-

"Barbie Horse Adventures: Wild Horse Rescue"

and bratz..lets not forget them

"Bratz: Forever Diamondz
Bratz: Rock Angelz"

btw theres plenty more "childish" games on the ps2, but if i posted all of them it would take up three forum pages...or more.

[TheColbertinator]

Vgchartz,the home of the whopper

Motorstorm 2 sold 1 million in 2008

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

According to vgchartz it has not passed 760,000

http://www.vgchartz.com/gam...

WTF?

I'll wait for NPD instead

[Voiceofreason]

Oh I see what you did there. You are confusing shipped numbers with sold numbers. They shipped 1 million last year that doesnt mean 1 million sold to PS3 owners just yet. NPD doesnt track shipped numbers either and that is where VGchartz gets most of its information from. When NPD is released they will change their numbers to reflect it, but they will not be updated to include the number of copies shipped to retailers.

[read disc error]

December 2008

VGchartz - PS3 740,675
NPD - PS3 726,000

November 2008

VGchartz - PS3 439,695
NPD - PS3 378,000

Its is clear VG chartz has been over-tracking PS3 sales in North America for awhile now. Let's wait for NPD.

@voiceofreason

They don't change their numbers to match NPD as you can plainly see.

[PirateThom]

My God, look at their front page.

They're tracking the 360's shipped numbers, which Microsoft themselves said was 28m shipped.

Meanwhile, they have Sony at 20m, even though Sony's SOLD numbers are 21m.

[read disc error]

Sony never releases "sold" numbers so I'd be interested if you show a link as proof that this 21 million number is true.

If I'm a Sony fanboy then I love VGchartz because for the most part they over-track PS3 sales compared to NPD.

@priatethom

Wow. That article is flat out wrong. Sony is projecting those sales through the end of march 2009. And being extremely optimistic in doing so, I might add. Somebody should fire that Gamespot writer.

straight from their website--

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

[PirateThom]

http://uk.gamespot.com/news...

Fiscal reports.

[TheColbertinator]

VGChartz doesn't get their numbers from NPD.They estimate based on their own sources.And Motorstorm 2 did SELL a million according to Sony,not shipped.Not that I care since I don't like Motorstorm.

Also vgchartz reported in December littlebigplanet sold 1.5 million.I was skeptical of this claim and sure enough 3 weeks later Sony said they had only sold 1.3 million.Where did vgchartz get the 200,000 from? Their ass is where they got them.

I'm merely aiding people who want the cold real numbers and don't want the deception of vgchartz.

I have reported when vgchartz said

Lbp sold 1.5 million

Sony sold 20 million consoles

and every other monthly sales figure

and every single article that vgchartz has had since May.

@Read disc error

Thats correct

Vgchartz has been guilty of over loading PS3 and 360 sales numbers back and forth and then NPD comes to destroy their false numbers within the next week.

[BRG9000]

Sony sells consoles and games to retailers. That is its business, and that is what matters to its financial reports. Whether the products reach the hands of gamers is irrelevant. So when it talks about sales in a financial report context, it is talking about how many it has shipped to retailers.

The NPDs track (and vgcharts estimates) games actually reaching the hands of gamers, because that is a better indicator of the health and status of the gaming industry.

[PirateThom]

Exactly my point. VGChartz are tracking PS3s below what Sony has shipped (and Sony changed their numbers last year to sold to consumers and you can't lie to shareholders, but for the sake of this argument, let's assume it's shipped to retailers), but Microsoft actively said they shipped 28m 360s and VGChartz hasn't moved their estimate down to 27m or whatever.

Sony say "sold" VGChartz say "shipped".
Microsoft say "shipped" VGChartz say "sold"

They're also overtracking the Wii by a million based on Nintendo's sold figures.

It doesn't seem odd that Sony is the only one they've adjusted down 1m, while Microsoft stay the same and Nintendo are adjusted +1?

[read disc error]

http://www.scei.co.jp/corpo...

Total confirmed sales up until FY2008 Q2 - 16.84 million
Projected sales up until the end of FY2008 Q3 (ending March 2009) - 21.3 million

21.3 million is a projection from Sony themselves set back at the beginning of the fiscal year 08 Q3. They have not sold 21 million yet and who says they will considering they were off by a sizable margin in their last earnings projection. Hence, the emergency revision announcement in January. Love or hate VGchartz their numbers are typically in Sony's favor compared to NPD and they're usually not off by enough to incite massive flamewars.

[Voiceofreason]

Plainly see? How do you get that? I go there all the time and can easily see that they do indeed change their numbers to reflect NPD and other sources. You just completely failed to comprehend what was being said. There is a difference in sold and shipped. Steven was comparing shipped numbers to sold numbers.

VGChartz doesnt lie and go back and change their estimates, I never said they did. They change the main tracking numbers to reflect NPD data and not teir own, even if they leave their estiamtes up so people can see how far they were off.

@steven, According to Sony? who uses shipped numbers for sold? Your not helping your case here. Also VGchartz does use NPD. They do their own estiamtes yes but they also change what their trackers show when NPD and other sources come out. You guys obviously never go there and get all your info on the site from N4g because you guys are clueless to how they work

[Product]

Actually Voice is right on this one......if you go to Vgchartz on many occasions they change their numbers when NPD data is released.It happens every month.

Unfortunately there really isnt any other video game tracking site besides this and a few others, besides who cares what sales better.I go there to see if a game when released is doing well enough to maybe merit a sequel.
I understand these are estimates though and you guys just take them way to seriously.

[mint royale]

Are you seriously suggesting Sony's figures are sold to consumers? No company gives sold to consumer numbers. They can't. How would they monitor every store around the world and see whos buying stuff? Its impossible. The best figures they can give is the ones they have sold to retailers and it is the sold to retialers figure they report becuase it is the retailers who pay them the money. Sony don't sell to us they sell to retailers and the retailers sell to us. If any of the big 3 had better figures why do they place so much emphasis on NPD? Answer- they don't have any better figures.

You are correct when you suggest that sony changed the way they report figures. They changed from sold to warehouses (their own) to sold to retailers in line with Nintendo and MS.

Also I don't understand your criticisms of vgchartz wii numbers. Nintendo confirmed that they had shipped over 45 million consoles to retailers by the end of 2008 and vgchartz estimates that they have just sold 46 million to consumers byb february. That seems perfectly reasonable to me...

[PirateThom]

I thought VGChartz were banned from here...?

[Pennywise]

They should be. When was the last time they were 3%+/- accurate?

[ps3sux]

their still a viable source to n4g because when they release positive figures for sony, you sony fans then say they're reliable.

you guys want them banned, then act like it ALL the time

[Voiceofreason]

I think someone needs to look up the definition of estimate. I have a strong feeling that if PS3 wasnt in last place on that chart that you guys wouldnt have issues with Vgchartz numbers. Seems only Sony fans hate them and I just cant see why.. So you think without their numbers you could lie around here and claim PS3 was number 1? Of course you couldnt because we have NPD also but it would help you guys lie about the state of PS3 wouldnt it? So is that why you are angry? You cannot misrepresent the PS3 to people because VGchartz keeps the numbers updated? They are wrong on all consoles yet the only ones crying are Sony fans..

I am jsut trying to understand why. Why does someone showing the PS3 in last place make you want to cry all the time? Do you really think we wouldnt know the PS3 is in last palce without Vgchartz?Ms fans dont cry about them, Wii fans dont cry about them, so please tell me a valid reason for hating them that wouldnt also apply to the fans of other consoles who say nothing at all?

[PirateThom]

I've always had an issue, due to it being tripe.

I don't care which place the consoles are in, but they've never been remotely accurate. I approve NPD and Media Crate and whatever other numbers regardless, but VGChartz are basically as accurate as any guesses I make.

[Pennywise]

The two guys that are trying to troll me and Pirate need to get a grip. I can submit estimates of my own every month too. What exactly makes them less accurate than Vgcharts?

Ive always said this, I will always say this.

VoiceofReason, dont make me make you look bad once again. It has happened before and it will happen again. I guess that is what happens when children try to talk up to adults.

[ps3sux]

pirate said that vg chartz shouldnt be submitted on n4g anymore. i never said i disagree with him. i said that if you guys have such a problem with vg chartz then you guys should have the same problem all the time.

ill spell it for you- the word is CONSISTENCY. the only word you ps3 fans should know by now is HYPOCRISY.

when vg chartz said the other day that LBP was at 2 million, you guys said they were reliable then. when they release sells estimates that show 360 is ahead of ps3, you guys scream "unreliable"

moral of this post and the moral of the last post- act CONSISTENT with your opinions, and cry foul ALL THE TIME not just when the numbers are in favor of 360

i like npd better, sure everyone does. you guys always misinterpret vg because they are just ESTIMATES. thing is their ESTIMATES are always correct though, and npd will back this fact up, 360 outsold ps3 again in jan by a considerable margin.

when npd is released, you'll see that the conclusion will be the same....360 sold better than ps3.

no trolling here. i made this name for a reason. same reason why we see smartass xbox 360 names on this site. if i was trolling, you would know it. im just saying how you guys react on n4g to vg chartz, when the estimates do not favor ps3.

no need for the "poor poor me act" ok penny.

[Pennywise]

Ps3Sux... Before you even type a word you are trolling with that name. Don’t try to act like an innocent bystander. You are probably at home dancing around in your moms panties because of this oh so glorious news. Give it a rest. All I said was VGcharts is a load of crap. It has been since I starting visiting this site many, many moons ago. You guys really feel like you are winning something with this news? I know if it was reverse, odds are you wouldn’t see me in this thread. I don’t care about sales. I want QUALITY. I would try to define that word for you, but it is obvious you do not care what it is. My point was VGcharts is just an e-peen contest and not even a good one.

Todays Sales:

Xbox 360 = 6000
PS3 = 4300 Truth, cause I said so.

[LilMissGoddess]

queefyb, aaron greenturd...those names are n4g users..do you think those are trolling names? thing is both of those users with those names only type fanboy BS in the GAMERZONE....

never see you or any other ps3 fans complain at those guys.....funny don't you think??? instead "your kind" bubble them up and hit "agree"

[DaTruth]

Somebody find the VGchartz article for sales in June, July or
August. You won't, cause those months 360 got blown away. We didn't start seeing these again until October. Check the comments for the pre-June VGChatrz articles, they are full of PS3 fans complaining about VGChartz fake numbers and saying it should be banned.

I think we all know who likes VGChartz when it's in their favour.

My logic is undeniable...

Yup, VGChartz data is conspicuously missing from N4G for the period from May to October.

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-... I don't know how to create links but here's the proof PS3 fans hate VGChartz even when PS3 is winning.

[Ldubbz]

Sales articles are usually devoid of the SDF...I wonder why...

[gamesmaster]

because they're busy reading gaming articles, about games. try it.

[caffman]

rather than going out and actually buying any

[tudors]

.

[ps3sux]

Even the DS was topped by Wii by 33%. Sony's PS3 saw only a 12,000 unit jump in sales from the previous week, allowing Microsoft's Xbox 360 to outsell PS3 by 80% this week.
OUCH 80%

if anything for the love of god, would this open sony's eyes and realize that a price cut is NEEDED.

[mustash2003]

Yes, lets listen to the advice from someone named "ps3sux", thats aan unbias person right there.

[Voiceofreason]

Sony cant even afford a price cut no matter how bad they see they need one. Most of their holiday games flopped, poor game sales throuout the year and already spent every penny made off of the PS2 on PS3 development.. Where would the money for a price cut come from?

[UltimateIdiot911]

Clearly you don't understand how marketing and business work. Sony is using the PS3 for harvesting at the moment. When the time is right, it will become a cash cow again like the PS2, might not be as big though. The 360 on the other hand is working on building Market share which is why there is aggressive price cuts and other dirty methods such as buying out DLC exclusives. Nintendo is aiming for a new market for the most part.

Also, Sony has core competency (Bluray, built in wifi, standard hdd, free online play, low failure rate/quality hardware, etc) oppose to the 360 (the only core competency is XBL). If Sony drops the price, the 360 price can only fall so far from $200 (the average consumer do not look further than the cheapest option) before it starts tarnishing the brand image further (the first was RROD/high failure rate 33% give or take, the average electronic failure rate is 6-7%).

I could careless about sales, sales rarely means quality. The PS3 could be selling 500:1 compare to the 360 for all I care. I just want the games I enjoy.

I also don't know what you mean by poor game sales. PS3 games may not make huge first week hits but they move like an energizer battery. It keeps going.

@Ldubbz
I'm not saying Sony didn't mess up on pricing in the beginning but the first price cut was more or less correcting. The discount is more or less a way of promoting the PS3 and other Sony products. If microsoft wanted to, they can sell Vista and the 360 together for a discount.

Lastly, no one knows how much Sony is really losing or making on the PS3. Those numbers we got were from some company opening up their PS3 and calculating the cost of each part. Sony gets their part in wholesale and their pricing is different.
The 360 had no competition for 1 whole year. There was no need for a price cut and by trying to be first is an act of aggression to penetrate into the market. Like I said before, if Microsoft drops the 360 below 200 it can risk tarnishing the brand name which they had to time their price cut accordingly. Sony also has to time their price cut accordingly.

[Ldubbz]

I think you are the one in need of understanding. What 'aggressive' 360 price cuts do you speak of, because I missed out. Lets clear this up, shall we?

- PS3 cuts its price $100 in the US after roughly 9 MONTHS on the market. They cut PS2 bc shortly thereafter. Then "free' or discounted PS3 deals; Sony offering discounted PS3's with Sony Credit, stores like Best Buy offering free PS3's with Sony Bravia TV's.

- 360 receives its first price cut around July 2007, roughly 20 MONTHS after being on the market (an industry record only now passed by the Wii), and it was MODEST.

- Next price cut is over a year later, which brings the Arcade and Pro to $100 less than when introduced, nearly 3 years after being on the market.

And it is Sony that doesnt have wiggle room for a price drop, since they still lose money on every console they sell, while 360 turns a profit, meaning MS STILL has leverage to drop price without hurting their bottom line as much.

And Im only spitting the facts...blind disagrees confirm your denial...

EDIT: Look at all that yummy denial! If you TRULY disagree I'd love to hear why...did I lie about something? My facts messed up?

[N4Garbage]

Nope. Ldubbz

Your spot on.

I didn't understand when people said MSFT desperately dropped the 360 price.

There price drops so far this gen have been strategic and well placed.

[ps3sux]

so if my name was "ps3rulz" then you would say i wasn't biased. really what about the other user names on n4g, do you say those guys aren't biased.

how many user names have shown up in the months with "killzone" in them, and when they post on killzone news, i guess you think those guys aren't biased towards that game, do you? meaning no matter what they defend that game.....

read my post for content dude, and look away from my name. i have posted nothing wrong in here. you guys want to "disagree", bubble me down and act like crybabies over my user name then so be it, just shows your level of immaturity.

thats nothing new with ps3 fans on n4g though. anytime someone says the truth or has even a different opinion other than you guys' you all get offended and CRY, to quote juuken- GROW UP

[Ldubbz]

N4Garbage....best name and pic on the site. If i could give u more bubbles I would...

[killzone2flop]

PS3 is getting its ass whooped.

[solidjun5]

you love VGchartz huh? okay, whatever helps you sleep at night.

1 more bubble.

[Jerk120]

Just like always.

[Magic_The_Celt]

XBox 360 - 116,543
Wii - 318,863

Wow! so is the Xbox 360

[SteveIrwin BotHunter]

Crikey! They're everywhere today! All around us here in N4G land...you can tell by their beady little red ringed eyes, little scratches all over their small discs and the way they ATTACK any Sony topic! Mean little pack of biased buggers I tell ya! You gotta stay on your toes around them or they might eat your bubbles!

It's okay though, in my travels I have learned how to subdue them with logic and truth; plus in the end they all die anyway from the RROD epidemic that has swept through their race! Causing us to second guess their proper numbers in the wild...It's truly a rare breed that can last for longer than 1-2 years without some kind of problem. The really sad thing is how their numbers are dwindling year after year because of this and having to rely on DLC as their main source of sustenance to get through 2009 with nary an exclusive in sight!

Anyway off to my next adventure after the elusive HD-DVD add-on and expensive Xbox LIVE! Gold cards! So see you next time on Steve Irwin ~ The Bot Hunter....

[Pennywise]

STEVEIRWIN - Thank you for the laugh!! I read your post like it was the croc hunter himself talking and I couldnt stop laughing. Spot on with how you worded it. +bubbles - I want to hear more from you, lol.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

So are going to see "Daughter of the Croc Hunter" and "Wife of the Croc Hunter"? Since your other accounts were banned? Queefy or should I call you Aaron Greenturd? 2 comments and already at 6 bubbles?

Oh and of course Pennywise wants to see more of your comments. But if your name is ps3sux we have a troll problem. I hope all those owning you in the Gamer Zone take a peak over here to have a laugh.

[SteveIrwin BotHunter]

Lookie what we have here an angry little CrabBot seeking misguided attention when he himself has a pop cultured named account as well! Ain't he a cute little annoyance of a critter huh!?

Eh, it's okay though as I think his confusion is based off his own contradictions because I am not this Queefy or Aaron Greenturd he speaks of! (Really I'm not, that's the funny thing) Now watch how he goes crazy when confronted with these truths and how he reverts back to his true form!

So stay tuned for the next time in my educational adventures somewhere in the expansive land of N4G! I am Steve Irwin ~ The Bot Hunter saying good night...

[mirroredderorrim]

RROD exists. High Price-Points exist.

Let's move on.

Edit: So, tell me... Which one does not exist? I left both console names out of it too... it isn't that hard.

Show me your spine.

edit2: I personally found who is leaving me disagrees!

[militant07]

Dont take it so seriouse its like a guss.
wait for the NPD. im sure the number arent far away from the real.

[TheColbertinator]

Thank you very much.Have a bubble

[Monty_The_Great]

nuff said. Why anyone takes them serious, I have no idea.

[Shnazzyone]

Once again japan sales are meaningless and not representative of the worldwide market. American video game market dictates the world market. Go obama!

[ultimolu]

...Cue "Sony ish doomed" articles.

*sighs*

[cliffbo]

Wii - 318,863
DS - 240,014

XBox 360 - 116,543

PSP - 87,189
PS3 - 65,269
PS2 - 31,542

keep it up PS brand you are doing just fine

[Hiruma Youchi]

good for the wii and xbox360. I wonder why the PS3 is still in 3rd place with its so called "stellar" Games.

[jhani]

I think Sony even might support the ps2 until ps4 is released!
I mean the potential of tapping profit out of that little "beast" is still there. They can maybe release a wii-like controller for ps2.
And we all now that the sales would ignite. They have their first party developers to support them into to this long journey.
But what are the estimate costs of manufacturing a ps2? 40 bucks?

[silvacrest]

why does everyone ignore that fact that this is only US sales?

if the 2008 total hardware sales have taught us anything, its that
the USA does not = the world

[JHUX]

It's so amazing to see 360 fans now suddenly put there trust in VGchartz again, hahaah I say this every time, whoever it favors people always believe it as true. I have spotted so many 360 fans here who b!tch like crazy when VGchartz is used in favor of the ps3, yet now they are all not mentioning a thing about it, in fact they are bashing the ps3 for being last in sales lol. It really is hilarious.

[Droid Smasha]

ps3 is last whether you look at NPD or VGchartz figures

what is there to argue about?

[Braineater2448]

Good to see these numbers. Wii is still truckin'

[FinalomegaS]

oh more sale numbers... Thursday NPD will show theirs also.

Going to go pick House of the dead overkill after work, please enjoy this moment while I will be unwrapping that game * has that nice new smell* m m m m m m!

next up SF IV, you guys take these sales numbers to serious.

FYI: I expect a very low amount of people to be on here when KZ2 comes out.

[mcgrawgamer]

FYI: I expect a very low amount of people to be on here when KZ2 comes out.

"I don't; they'll be here in bigger numbers waiting to see how many units were sold in the first week. Getting prepared to either attack or defend the game" never fails. Happened with mgs4, resistance, lpb, and soon enough kz2.

I'll be too busy shouting out hadokens and tiger uppercuts to care what any of the console loyalist spew to each other on the interwebs.

[cmrbe]

more imaginary figures for x360 trolls to jackoff with.

I find it funny that for 9 months last year when the PS3 was ahead no one posted VG crap and now when according to VG the x360 is ahead i see it approve on N4G again.

When will you people understand that VG is crap?.

[Droid Smasha]

yep Wii in first and *checks figures* ps3 still last

as you were everyone

[gamer1000]

184,000 units(psp,ps3,ps2 all together) sold than xbox 360 thats i want to know no worries

[N4Sony]

Lies! Such nonsense cannot be posted here on N4G! Only when VGChartz claims LBP to hit 2 million sales can they be taken seriously. This posts have no credibility! They only mattered when MGS4 helped the PS3 last summer! Obliterate this news post mods! It's not N4G material. Obviously lies. Fanboy fodder to get them to Spin. SPIN.

[Rhoic]

Rofl.

[ambientFLIER]

Wow, the PS3 gets outsold 2:1 each week by the Xbox. Every couple of months the 360 gains another million in its lead. Nice.

[CharlesDCI]

We all know that the PS3 doesn't do as well as the 360 in America. Since America isn't the WORLD Xbots have really no reason to brag.

[monkfish]

your right i mean the superbowl doesnt count for s#it outside of america.....i wouldnt brag about winning that.

so if sony did better in euorope it doesnt matter at all as its not the whole world either.....great logic there.

[Deadman64]

nintendo is killin it

[Captain Lip]

Can you not see the ps3 is getting batterd by the 360!? Im embarrased to be seen with the PS3 crowd anymore, they are all about 7 years old postng on here. an absoloute disgrace to the PS3, as much as I love my PS3, I cant deny the 360 is all over the PS3.

[monkfish]

@paul-p1988
so are you suggesting that i had best not buy a ps3 bacuase of my ps2 that broke.

apparently my ps2 was an old model and wouldnt read gt4....odd cos it said compatible with ps2's on the gt4 box...

so me and 50,000 + other ps2 uk owners complained to watchdog about sony's ps2.....think it got mentioned on telly ages ago now.

things break i get that and i wasnt happy but i missed all the good games so i got myself a ps2 slim.

[caffman]

360 fanboys will be going "GREAT!!!!" ps3 fanboys will be going "killzone 2 isn't out yet!!!!!". At the beginning of march when febs figures come out the PS3 fans will be going (if PS3 is still being beaten) "killzone 2 was only out for 1 day!!!!!!". So we will have to wait till mid april to see if there is a "killzone 2 effect" or whether it is a brilliant game that doesn't move many consoles.
However it will all be for naught as whatever the figures are some people will add up the ps3, ps2 and psp figures and say "yes we beat EVERYONE!!!!!!!!"