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Is Sony Losing It?

Sony is a great company. No one can deny the force that they have become in the gaming industry. Anyone who thinks that Sony is on the brink of collapse is a fool.
As a brand the Sony PlayStation is here to stay. The Playstation 1&2 combined have sold 270 million units world wide. This by itself secures Sony a place in the industry for a long time yet to come. Yet if you take into account the estimated PSP Sales of 44 million world wide sales total of you come to the number 314 million PlayStation Brand units sold. (Keep in mind this number neglecting current sales of the PS3) So all Sony haters need to just let it go, Sony is not going anywhere anytime soon.

With all that aside, in Sony's third generation of life as a console manufacture life is not so great right now. The PS3's install base is estimated to be around 20 million. While this is a decent number it pales in comparison to the Wii. As for the battle for second place with the 360, Sony trails by around eight million units. On the surface these numbers don't seem to be too bad, however when you look at the bigger picture you can see that Sony is going through a very rough patch.

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oriol0035565d ago

I was a bit skeptical at first but after reading the article he proves some good points Sony has kinda screwed it up and they didn't even get the Super Bowl ad which was stupid, Microsoft spent around 10 million advertising Halo 3 which is not half as good as Killzone 2. Damn Sony.

PirateThom5565d ago

10?

Microsoft spent 30m advertising Halo 3, the same it cost to make the game.

I'm glad Sony don't do that, because I'd rather have another game rather than a load of ads.

ASSASSYN 36o5565d ago

Yeagh how dare MS promote a game that people will be playing on xbox-live years down the road.

PirateThom5565d ago

Don't you think the people who will be playing it years down the line will be the same people who would have bought it anyway regardless of advertising?

ASSASSYN 36o5565d ago

No I don't think people would have bought it regardless of advertising. You advertise for public promotion of some product or service. The business of drawing public attention to goods and services is the point.

Basics of marketing is advertising what people may want. WTF is the point if you don't advertise you would systematically eliminate potential buyers leaving you looking like a douche with a warehouse full of products.

GWAVE5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

If Sony "losing" it is simply an issue of sales, this is what I see:

PS3's first year: outsold the 360 worldwide even though "it has no gamez!" as the haters claimed...and at a $500-$600 price point.

PS3's second year: outsold/sold the same (depends on what source you cite) as the 360 at double the price; outsold the 360 for the entire year worldwide except in the last 3 months.

First two years of the PS3: 21 million units sold.

First two years of the 360 (with one year of no competition): 14 million sold.

Hmmmm.

Aside from that, who has more dev studios? Sony. Who has better-looking exclusives? Sony. Who has free online? Sony. Whose online is more stable? Sony (yes, it's true. P2P vs dedicated servers). Who has reliable hardware? Sony.

Journalists fail to look at cold, hard facts. They take a narrow snapshot of the current market and ignore the big picture. They say that the PS3 is selling horribly, yet the 360 sells less and it's selling just fine.

I understand that some people have a preference. That's fine. Some people preferred the Xbox, Dreamcast, or Gamecube instead of the more popular PS2 (I had the Xbox and Dreamcast). Yet, no journalists would fabricate facts to somehow "prove" that the Gamecube was doing better than the PS2 or to "prove" that the Dreamcast was doing better than the Xbox.

Yet today, it seems that so many journalists have an agenda. What is that agenda? It's to see Sony fail, even if Sony's "failure" is invented by half-truths and ignored facts.

La Chance5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

well , MSFT spent a whole lot of money for Halo 3 but the crazy amount of money Halo 3 brang in can get you more than ONE game more.

I think the whole team behind Halo 3 , from Bungie to the marketing team know more than you how to handle their products.I mean who are you ?
If they got the money to do that then let it be ! Considering Halo 3's out of this world sales I dont think they regret a single second

On topic : Sony simply underestimated the competition BIG TIME.
The Wii and the 360 are doing way better than anybody would have expected.I think thats the main reason.Sony built their strategy from a "we'll will anyway" perspective and they woke up to see that this gen is another story.

They can thank the power of the PS brand because I think if it were the 360 at the place they would be going the way of Sega with the dreamcast

La Chance5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

Geez , you go from controlling 80% of the gaming market to being in a position where you will probably never catch up with your direct rival ansd you think that Sony isnt "losing it" ?

Im a student in business school in and trust me in NO WAY , no matter what is that a good thing.

No business man on planet earth would be happy to go from the domination the PS2 had to the situation the PS3 is in right now even if it isnt a flop.

How you manage to see the evolution of the Playstation from last gen to this gen a positive thing is beyond business , commercial and financial logic.

The ps3 isnt a failure but is very far from being the succes Sony was expecting.

PS "First two years of the PS3: 21 million units sold.

First two years of the 360 (with one year of no competition): 14 million sold."

Let me rectify that : PS3 lifetime sales = around about 20 million

360 lifetime sales = around about 28 million.

Why do you only pick the years that suit you ? Speak in "cold hard facts" and that means taking ACTUAL numbers and NOT setting up the numbers so that they suit you.

Mindboggle5565d ago

MS actually spent $40 million advertising Halo 3, but it was ultimately worth it, as the game has sold over 8 million. You do the math...

8 million x £30/$50 = !!!!!!!!!!!

They more than made their money back. If halo 3 was a flop, the 360 would of probably died in 2007.

xwabbit5565d ago

I want the same people who where talking about HHG to talk trash about this article too. Lets wait and see

Monkey5215565d ago

I'm sorry, but considering that the PS3 came after the 360 (1 year later), and the Wii magically having success, the PS3 isn't doing that bad at all. They are catching up at an extremely fast rate and are not stopping. They may not control 80% of the market, but that's because they had no real competition back then. The xbox came years after and the dreamcast died. We won't even talk about the gamecube. I'm not saying that the PS3 is doing amazing like the PS2 did, but they are in a decent position considering the circumstances.

CrazzyMan5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

they didn`t support 3rd party developers in first 2 years with help in development of multiplatform games, and because of that some multiplatform games had some problems with framerate.

All other thing Sony did right.
Of`course, it would be better, if in 2008 there were available more traditional jrpgs like Eternal Sonata or WKC, but that is just 1 year, which has ended already and we still had some great tactical jrpgs like Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles with a great traditional jrpg - Persona 4.
I hope in 2009, there will be not only WKC and TLR but also some new good jrpg games.

About losing 3rd party multiplatform exclusivity, well for now it`s not big deal, since to achieve true PS3 power for 3rd party alone would need a lot of time like atleast 3 years. The games are still coming to PS3.

About SALES, PS3 could cost 299$ in 2007, they would have sales like Wii, around 40-45 mln. today and lose maybe 1-2 bln. $.
BUT who would ignore 25-28 mln. x360 userbase vs 40-45 mln. PS3 userbase Today??? Sony would lose 2 bln. $ for what? For 2-3 exclusive games? Is this WISE???

p.s. And there are ~50 mln. PSP sold WW, don`t use VGC numbers as facts, they are just ESTIMATES.

cayal5565d ago

"Sony has kinda screwed it up and they didn't even get the Super Bowl ad which was stupid"

$3 million on one damn ad is ludicrous. That isn't good spending and I am glad Sony wouldn't waste their money when the same amount can get you multiple ads shown multiple times.

ultimolu5565d ago

Okaaaaay...

Press agree if you think Sony's doing a good job so far in terms of software and hardware, considering the PS3 has been on the market for only two years. Press disagree if you think they're out of their f*cking minds.

And be honest.

green5565d ago

I don't think it's as easy as that.I believe that Sony is not advertising the PS3 enough and in "enough" i mean advertising the value of the system over it's rivals.

A consumer goes into a shop and all they see is the price and especially since Microsoft and Nintendo are very good at advertising the lower price points of their consoles .Sony's adverts should highlight the inclusion of wi-fi,web browser, blue-ray, free online gaming etc, things that it has over it's rivals that will help consumers justify spending the higher price over the 360.

As of now i don't see that and it's a shame because i believe that when taking all those things into account it makes the PS3 a valuable system.

demonddel5565d ago

@ORIOL003 How the f@$k you know you never even play the game yet..........y'all need to quit sucking sony's d!@k and just play some games.

Godmars2905565d ago

But they didn't do the quality control on the 360 causing RRoD, backtracked on HDMI and still use DVDs while penalizing devs who make games that need more than 2 discs.

There really needs to be articles questioning if MS knows what they're doing, if they even have "it" rather than all of these "Sony is Doomed" pieces.

Giriath5565d ago

He isn't really "looking at the bigger picture". If he were, he'd see that the Playstation 3 was released a year after the Xbox 360, even a few more months in Europe where it has sold the most. When talking sales, that really does count. And I don't think he actually believes Microsoft aren't equally as disappointed as Sony. Neither expected Nintendo's under dog to become the wonder dog.

If Sony has so few exclusives on the Playstation 3 as he says, wouldn't Microsoft be even more disappointed and confused when the PS3 is selling just as much as the Xbox 360 despite being more expensive? Fact is that the PS3 now has at least as many good exclusives as the Xbox 360 does.

Now that Sony has started promoting their console in much the same way Microsoft does, most of the gaming press ridicule them, when they are the ones who told Sony to start doing so in the first place. Claiming that the Playstation 3 has more longetivity isn't very bold when it has new and superior tech in the CELL processor and Blu-ray drive, and Sony will support it for at least 8 years, if not the promised 10.

xTruthx5565d ago

Sony isn't losing it.... end of discussion <8-D

ultimolu5565d ago

I do agree with you on that green. I remembered the days where you couldn't even watch T.V without seeing some PS2/PS1 advertisement. Sony needs to move their asses in marketing the PS3 correctly.

iHEARTboobs5565d ago

Sony would be in trouble if they were under MS's business model. The PS3 will stay on the market longer than the 360 and if anything, that's when they'll catch and surpass the 360 in sales if it isn't done by the time the next XBOX hits. But if Sony doesn't outsell the 360 by at least a million this year then they wont catch up until the next XBOX. But as a gamer as long as they keep pumping out great games i'm happy. It's a great system.

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tnkGODimATHEIST5565d ago

Sony LOST A LONG TIME AGO WITH THEIR garbage ass console.

PirateThom5565d ago

So many tears... what's wrong? Killzowned?

dukadork25565d ago

yeah he sounds like he just got gang raped by a squad of angry helghasts

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PR3DAT0R5565d ago

Yeah lots of people agree with you right?
seriously stop trolling you are really starting to annoy me, since when has the ps3 been considered garbage?

ps3's not the console you have to take out to fix on a weekly basis unlike a certain console i know that will not be mentioned.

ultimolu5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

Wow...who spit in your food today? o_0

And if the PS3 was a garbage console, it wouldn't exist today.

Shane Kim5565d ago

Sony made the 20 million mark faster than 360.

Gue15565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

Can't do any other thing than laugh when a bot says that the PS3 is garbage when their console is getting massive failure rates around the planet... It doesn't even has any good games for 2009.

Zool 085565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

With KZ2, Heavy Rain, GOW3 & FF13(Japan) this year I think not

Dimitri5565d ago

ahhh you see what jealousy does to people ??

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StoneySweatLeafs5565d ago

Killzone 2 is going to change everything. Developers are going to see the results that were produced from the PS3 and flock to it. Plus with all the great games coming down the pike. It's tax seasons people. Watch the Feb. numbers rise!!

tnkGODimATHEIST5565d ago

Its just that simply Sony's marketing fails in comparison to Microsoft Game Publisher. Sony does a bad Publishing job.

Why dis5565d ago

The 2nd coming? hahahahahaha

ape0075565d ago

and you want n4g to ban hhg?

be happy with these articales,that'a all you want,you deserve this

ENJOY

edhe5565d ago

4 years & Sony's financial & technical backing all games do not have.

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ASSASSYN 36o5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

Why do they say sony won't win against the 360 this gen. And why microsoft says they wouldn't want to trade position with sony this gen.
360 - 28m units - 39 months = 717948 units / month
PS3 - 20m units - 27 months = 740740 units / month

717948 per month*336months = 241230528 million xbox 360's sold
740740 per month*336months = 248888640 million ps3's sold

28 million xbox 360's today. + sold in 336 months =269230528
20 million ps3's today. + sold in 336 months =268888640

Even factoring a margin of error, plus or minus the numbers work in MS favor for holding 2nd. No sony will not die from this but they deffinitely loss their shine.
Even if the ps3 consistently outsells the xbox 360 world wide sony will still be in 3rd place in the console war in 336 months thats 28 years!

PirateThom5565d ago

Assuming nothing ever changes...

But, as you know, things rarely stay the same.

The_Zeitgeist5565d ago (Edited 5565d ago )

Ah yes a very nice burn indeed PirateThom.

The Fungus5565d ago

IDK wtf you're smoking, but 336 months is 28 years :/

I dont even care about the rest of your post, I just want to know why you chose 336 months lol.

Concerning the article, PirateThom is right. Things change.

gametheory5565d ago

Assassyn "360"?

SNES was losing against Sega Genesis until Street Fighter and Zelda were released, and Sega started releasing many useless add-ons.

PS1 started slow.

Dreamcast started great.

Not saying things *will* change, saying things *can* change and that nothing is certain. After all, 360 started from horrible in Japan to below average.

Are you one of those losers that believes trends are never broken? Just asking.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville48d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi47d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein47d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos47d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein47d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan47d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long47d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8848d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake48d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts48d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername48d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai47d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long47d ago (Edited 47d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro58d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7258d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_58d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga58d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2358d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200059d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin59d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole58d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix59d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198958d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor58d ago (Edited 58d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198958d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar363d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor363d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar363d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg362d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149362d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138363d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim363d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC362d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138362d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle362d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76362d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM362d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730363d ago (Edited 363d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger362d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca363d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy362d ago (Edited 362d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal362d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright362d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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