TheStartScreen: Killzone 2 Impressions and Fanboys

The Start Screen Writes:

So, the Killzone 2 demo is finally upon us. That's if you pre-ordered at Gamestop and had access to the code, or you got up and made an EU account to download their demo. Those of you not familiar with the first Killzone, you play as Captain Jan Templar and the members of his squad, during the Helghast invasion of planet Vekta. It was also the deemed the "Halo Killer" by the media. Well, that was until the game was released and received mixed reviews for technical issues such as, bad A.I and frame-rate issues. It was praised in some areas however, for it's art design and soundtrack. I'll be honest, I hated Killzone.

[ACEMANWISE]

Killzone 2 has some of the best physics and AI on current gen consoles. Not even Crysis can match it in that department. I can understand if he dislikes Killzone 2 but I wouldn't just assume it has bad AI.

[Aclay]

Whenever he's talking about bad A.I. and Framerate issues, he's talking about the first Killzone game, not Killzone 2.

[Timberland2K9]

the loads that flick when your going into a new area are checkpoints not glitchy frame rates

[darkdoom3000]

Yeah, i did notice a freeze once you reach the top of the elevator thing.

well, im ok with it. i mean the best looking game has no installs.

[gamesmaster]

hes talking about the first killzone game when he says bad AI and framerate issues. he enjoyed the demo and cant wait for feb 27th.

please read the articles properly before you post a comment on it. seems logical doesn't it?

[Why dis]

I agree the AI seems confused.

The jerky control adds some realism although you'd think seasoned fighters would be a little more steady. The graphics are overhyped and the textures are average. THE defacto rifle feels powerful but not being able to keep the guns more steady is odd.

Much of KZ2's environmental textures are no better than Halo 3 so with the character models.

The art is darker than Halo(not as cartoony) sort of fooling the mind of thinking darking means better.

[gamesmaster]

why dis

who are you agreeing with? the writer is talking about killzone 1's AI.

did you even read the description?

edit: oh so you disagree with the fact that i just pointed out that you have misunderstood his opening statement, i give up on some people.

[bassturd]

bubble dis down and add him to your ignore. He makes stupid comments like that all the time.

as others have said, he liked Killzone 2. The negative things he mentioned are about Killzone 1.

[pswi60]

why dis is one of THE dumbest trolls on n4g, and of course he loves the 360, because only the dumbest of fanboys are 360 fanboys.

i guarantee he doesn't have a ps3, doesn't know anybody that does, and if he did, they would have to be smart enough to either:

a) create a UK account to download the demo

or)

b) preorder KZ2 from gamestop.....riiiiiight

This is the dumbest statement i've ever read:

"Much of KZ2's environmental textures are no better than Halo 3"

and this gem:

"sort of fooling the mind of thinking darking means better. "

oh you mean like Gametrailers used to do with ps3/360 comparisons? cause i'm sure darker was better back then

Owned again why dis, owned again

[BobDog]

the freeze at the top of the elevator was the save point...

[Rock Bottom]

Why dis insults himself more with every new post.

[Antan]

"The graphics are overhyped and the textures are average".

LMFAO!

Much of KZ2's environmental textures are no better than Halo 3

LMFAO even harder! Why don`t you show us some nice screenshots to "prove" your point, and while your at it, have a look through the KZ2 reviews and copy/paste some nice Halo3 gfx comparisons. Thanks.

"The art is darker than Halo(not as cartoony) sort of fooling the mind of thinking darking means better."

No POG, KZ2 looks better, doesn`t run sub HD, reviews prove, screenshots prove, playing the demo finally proves. Halo3 is a great game no doubt but gfx was never its strongest point. Get over it.

[ape007]

the game is unbelievable

a whole new level

devs,use ps3 as the lead console and with blu-ray,the seas are open devs

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

No wonder Microsoft shut down ACES studios.They had to pay no name sites for controversy.Looks like M$ is wasting their money again and again and again

[GiantEnemyCrab]

"PS3 fanboys, shut up. Not everyone on the forums with opposite opinions is an evil, "xbot". Everyone will disagree with you at one point or another. You need to learn that. Can't we all just get over our differences and play the damn game?"

I think the last sentence was talking to you.

This was a positive and glowing review of the game but you still accuse them of being paid off by MS? LOL! Maybe you are just kidding since we are in the Open Zone?

[Lord Shuhei Yoshida]

"I don't like Killzone 2"

-xbot

Ha! Thats all the proof I need

[NegativeCreep427]

Pay no attention. GiantEnemyCrab travels around backing fud up like he is PP's little b*tch.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

What are you 2 blabbering PS3 butt buddies talking about?

I've praised the hell out of KZ2 and bought a PS3 and pre-ordered the game you walking bag of bullsh*t. If your quote is coming from this article then you must of misread because he only said "I hated Killzone" as in the first one.

This is how you pwn people by making up a bunch of crap and spew it in the idiot zone? Please don't flatter yourself fool. I quoted the article and your statement went with it perfectly. If you owned anything today you owned yourself. ouch!

NegativeCreep what are you blabbering about? So you agree with the ramblings of this idiot that this site was paid off by MS to say something negative even thought the story is praising the game? Really and I'm spreading FUD? You are a moron (and I think you're a bit sweet on him) and no wonder you are here sticking up for another worthless nutjob PS3 extremist. If anybody is a b!tch here is you and I'm sure you call Lord Yoshida daddie.

[Zool 08]

I know he can be an annoyin an xbot and all but for once hes stopped being a fanboy and wants to enjoy the game. I'm a PS3 man and normally have no time for him, it doesn't mean he's earnt my respect just yet. it just that hes stopped being a fanboy and just wants to enjoy the game.
I belive Sony has finally proveed their point about the PS3 and KZ2 may be the game to put Sony back on map, and with Uncharted 2, GT5, Heavy Rain etc...to come if it can win the heart people like GEC and he likes them instead of gloating and bashing him, lets just enjoy the game.

[Wife Of The Bad Guy]

Demo was amazing,I'm going to jump straight into the Campaign once I get the game

[ACEMANWISE]

Me too. I want the full immersion effect with the storyline and such. I usually play online after I tire of the single player. Same as Metal Gear 4.

[thebudgetgamer]

while waiting for the guy to open the door in the warehouse. one bad guy was behind cover in the back of the room, and one was closer to the right.

so the guy in the back kept peeking his head out so i put him in my crosshairs, and as soon as i did that the closest guy started moving forward shooting.

so as soon as he did that the one in the back moved forward to a new cover point right there my jaw droped in awe this game rocks

:)

edit: crazy-eyez-killah youre right my bad

[ACEMANWISE]

My god. That's so realistic it's scary. Man I want this game badly now. It's too bad the demo is limited in the U.S.

[crazy-eyez-killah]

He is talking about Killzone 1 having bad AI, read dammit!

[xwabbit]

I no, I have been playing the demo nonstop and its just amazing

[doG_beLIEfs]

The AI in KZ2 is amazing. They work together to flush you out. One of the Helghast pinned me down while the other one came up the stairs and flanked me. HMFS that was awesome. Never, and I mean never have I been flanked by AI that effectively.

Every playthru, the AI does something different. Every single time. Absoufrakingloutly amazing.

And this is on the NORMAL setting.

[SevWolf]

Something similar happened to me as soon as it happened I paused the game took a breath and was trying to convince myself that this is a game not real life, also after you blow the bridge up and your taking out the guys on the ledge to the left, there was a guy taking cover when he got up to shoot at me I missed his head and hit his shoulder, he reacted to the bullet went back to cover, then looked up made sure I wasn't shooting at him and rolled "Nathan Drake" style to the cover o the other side, I saw this and my eyes just popped out of my head.

[ALIEN]

"I have one more thing to say to all you gamers out there browsing the Killzone 2 forums. First, 360 fanboys, the demo is great, and by the looks of things, the game is a masterpiece. Get over it and for the love of all that is holy, stop bashing it for stupid reasons. PS3 fanboys, shut up. Not everyone on the forums with opposite opinions is an evil, "xbot". Everyone will disagree with you at one point or another. You need to learn that. Can't we all just get over our differences and play the damn game?"

That's what im talking about. Let's play games n' stop hating each other. And, remember not everybody will agree with you on everything.

[thebudgetgamer]

i think at some point people forgot gaming is supposed to be fun.

:)

[ACEMANWISE]

Make no mistake, Killzone 2 will be bashed hard. It will be judged harder than every other game this generation with the expectation of perfection.

I expect the media to bash Killzone 2 for the most tiny issues and blow them up to epic proportions. It's ridiculous, I know. Just remember how many other games were given a pass because "It didn't effect the overall experience". Grand Theft Auto IV anyone?

Let's face it. If any game this generation was rated like Killzone 2, it would fail. I expect Killzone 2 to be hammered and bashed on these points:

Online lag
Online bugs
Download speeds
Lack of Install
AI
Lack of "Call of Duty" controls
Inferior cover system
Too much like Gears cover system
Not enough like Gears cover system
Graphic glitches
Sales (whether software or hardware)
lack of coop
short single player

Of course, these are all minor issues but they will dramatize it like it's the end of the world.

[Crazywhitie]

It does have COD Controls Atl.2 Setting.. you should play the Demo and go though the Options

Too much like Gears cover system: the Covers systems is't that great on killzone 2 when you look around a corner your whole Body looks around the Corner.. It's better just to look over the Object if you can.

Online lag: All PS3 Game Have Problems in the first weeks of games release

A.I.: on Normal The A.I isn't the Brightest
Sales (whether software or hardware)

[jkhan]

Yeah the lack of install comment was funny. I mean people moan because most games have hefty installs & then Killzone 2 doesn't have install they b*tch about it too.
I don't remember if there was anything ever said about COD4, BioShock or MassEffect's lack of coop. I understand that BioShock and MassEffect are games from different genres but what about COD4? People always compare it to COD4, how about that? No coop, no vehicles to drive, heavily scripted levels, cheating and scripted enemy AI etc. etc. But if anything even of slightest proportion is wrong in Killzone 2 its -0.5:P

@5.3
* I thought the cover system was pretty realistic & really well done. If you are hiding behind cover you shouldn't be able to see most of the stuff anyways? Gears 2 was a third person shooter so the person could fully hide behind the cover and can see as well.

* Mate the AI is pretty amazing even on Normal settings and it surprised me quite a few times during my multiple play through.

[thebudgetgamer]

if you are really behind cover you cant turn the camera to look you have to stick your head out there to see

:)

[darkdoom3000]

Lol. the first paragraph would confuse some people. hes talking bout KZ1 people.

[killzone2flop]

Issues such as, bad A.I and frame-rate issues which still remain in the Final Build and if that's not worse we also get Glitches which actually breaks the game and making your console worthless piece of black door stopper. So i won't take that risk FEAR 2 is the way to go.

[Bathyj]

Grade A, Top Shelf, Farquit.

I know reading is something you only just picked up on in the last couple years but maybe an older boy there can help you. The framerate and AI issues are from Killzone 1 not 2.

And for the record I've played part 1 many times and I've never noticed the framerate effect gameplay and the Ai was great, playing differently everytime you played it. Killzone has always just been an easy target for bashers cause some jerk had to go and call it a Halokiller.

Crab can you talk to this douche, because rightly or wrongly, its clowns like him that get people like you tarred with the same brush and I would have thought even you would like to keep him at arms length.

[NegativeCreep427]

What a waste of perfectly good oxygen.

Stupidity and blindness at this height should only be relegated to the most mentally-impaired chimps that live within the most dedicated science labs.

One of them just happened to escape to a nearby Starbucks and got ahold of someone's laptop. Who knows how it typed in www.n4g.com and created its own account: killzone2flop.

How can a chimp with down-syndrome accomplish all that? Well I don't know. I guess God just has a sense of humor.

[jkhan]

Just wondering why people are criticizing the length of the demo? I mean that how long demo has always been apart from a few exceptions like Too Human. Heavenly Sword demo was over under 10 min, so was Haze, Conan, and everyother game.
By the way I don't seem to understand this notion of people nitpicking Killzone 2's control. I mean if the game doesn't feel like COD4 it fails and if it does we see comments like doesn't feel fresh.
I enjoyed the demo, infact I haven't played any demo for this many times. I urge people to use the Standard 1 control scheme, this is how the game was suppose to be, it was meant to be played. If anyone want COD4 like controls, he should play COD4 then.

[ACEMANWISE]

That's what I was trying to point out in my post above. They will complain about every little thing short of "being a PS3" game.

[James Vanderbeek]

and i only played 5 mins of it.. lol... its really that good..

[ALIEN]

Agreed on that one! KS2 is one of those games that i will be playing it for along time, maybe till KZ3!

[Nexy]

I've played the demo several times and it's still the same - apart from the lighting effects there's almost nothing else I got excited about. The reviewers msut definitely be right saying the next levels are much better - I want to believe so because to be honest this demo has disappointed me.

[lipke201]

Sucks to be you. The demo was perfect in every sense of the word. Can't wait until feb. 27th!!!!!!

[ACEMANWISE]

Might be time to upgrade your TV. They have HDTVs now.

[hydro-lx]

and i give a f%^k why? anyways

also killzone2flop, i know for a fact you don't have a ps3 more a less pre-ordered KZ2 like you said on one of your posts, so you wouldn't know about the game, i've seen you on all news killzone and ps3 just talking your BS! your a xbot di%k riding as$ hom0! also, how come i haven't ever seen you on any 360 sections? maybe cuz it has nothing good worth talking about, i mean maybe its interesting to those who have nothing, but we the big timers don't give a rats a$s about small fries like 360 news... your a joke...

[GiantEnemyCrab]

If HHG wants to be respected as a gaming journalist and not a PS3 fanboy with a website he would do good in distancing himself from people like you.

Don't let trolls like Killzone2flop get to you, especially if you are trying to be taken seriously as a "games journalist".

"but we the big timers don't give a rats a$s about small fries like 360 news..."

Maybe HHG should change the motto of his website?

Keep representing!

[hydro-lx]

its not like im saying i hate 360, you know its true however, there is nothing good on 360 news besides like it breaking down a big tv and halo wars! so there is nothing big happening on the halo section! is this my fault for pointing the obvious? wtf do i care about your opinion anyways, your the biggest ps3 anti-person here

[Playa7970]

hey banjo learn to read they were talking about killzone 1 fool

[snaz27]

I played the demo soon as it came live i waited with baited breath checking like every 5 minutes as did most of you i bet lol. i have been bigging this game up to everyone and i was expecting alot! did it wow me? to be honest not really and im kinda gutted about that. dont get me wrong it was good but i didnt pick it up and just love it as i should. ive been trying to tell myself it was ace cos i want it to be but it just didnt "killzone" me. the lag on the controls are annoying dont care what you say about weight. its not the speed it which it moves that bothers me it just doesnt do what i want it to! even the menu has lag for god sake! if i push down i want it to respond imediately and it doesnt! try running then turn the view you will see it doesnt respond instantly! that is lag in my book. but those things aside it just wasnt all that fun. and in 4 years of development i want them to make a game to be epic in size not just graphics which again didnt really blow me away as i thought it would. no co-op is bad too is it a must? no but what more fun can you have than blasting through the game with a pal? should have done it in my opion. i know you guys love it thats fair enough i did till i played the demo. i would probably buy it if i saw it cheap or if they sort the lag at but im just abit deflated after playing it to be honest. but im sure lots of people will enjoy it and thats cool its each to there own afterall.

[ACEMANWISE]

Prepare for a butt whoopin of disagrees.

[snaz27]

its ok for people to disagree with me mate thats the beauty of free will... would be nice to hear why they disagree but either way im not too bothered.. like i said its not a crap game but not monumental either. think maybe it was hyped a little too much. its just not acceptable to have lag on the controls in my book either you can say they aint there but do what i said and you cant deny they are.

[dznutz00]

lol i didn't know that i real life u could do all that as fast a you wanted but hey thats ur opinion and more power to ya

just think about what would happen in real life if you tried to pull your gun to ur face i'm sure you will understand that you cant do it that fast in a real life war

also to those that say the aim sucks i'm not sure you understand that bullets don't always hit the same mark every time and that your aim is even worse if your shooting from the hip

edit: what i mean by you can pull it to your face is that you aint gonna have a good aim if you did it fast plus im sure "you" would hit yourself in the face lol

ps: i didnt disagree just given you my opinion

[snaz27]

@ dznuts dude if you move in real life while running jumping backflipping lol whatever you move when you move you dont go to move then a second or two later it actually happens. just go to the demo and runn then move the camera you will see there is lag. the same with the menu it lags too. why do that? doesnt it strike you as abit odd? and kinda not up to scratch? as for hitting myself in the face lmao you know me so well lol. its great that you liked it and im sure you will have many hours enjoyment out of it but im just a little disapointed by these niggles and the fact it just aint all that fun. btw to the other guy i loved rfom really enjoyed it. online was lacking abit tho. the 40 players online is cool but the ranking was abit sparse.

[2 cents]

Don`t forget people that not everyone will like this game. Many people will genuinely hate it. Like me i hate halo3, and i could not understand what people see in that game, and nothing could make me change my mind bout it. Same with resistance1/2. I just didn`t like them. But Killzone2? God, it blew my mind on so many levels. I just loved every second of it, i even loved the controls and the cover system.

[Traveler]

I absolutely loved the demo. It's short, but oh so sweet.

The AI is really something and makes playing through things different each time.

The graphics are amazing.

The guns feel so nice when you fire them.

All in all, I am even more excited for the full game after playing the demo.

[wollie]

Felt like playing HL2 for the first time...
everything just felt right. I've played the demo 6 times... thats crazy for me.