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Valve laughs off Left 4 Dead PS3

Valve has brushed off new rumours (again) of a PS3 version of Left 4 Dead, sparked by a rather decisive listing on a UK retailer website.

With not just a PS3 version listed, but a release date of June 5, EA down as the label and even the ability to pre-order the game right now, HMV seems pretty sure it's happening. More than an easily-missed typo-o, anyway.

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Johnny Rotten5566d ago

And 21 million AND GROWING potential customers say "oh well".

acedoh5566d ago

some fear games like this coming to the PS3... As if their whole life will be endangered by exclusives becoming multiplat. Life does go on and I am sure this game will see light of day on the PS3. These companies are here to make money and when they see the chance at another million or more sales they know that it's inevitable that it's going to happen. The PS3 is not a risky console to put games on. Considering just in 2008 they had over a dozen games that hit at least a million. Most developers know the PS3 is a money maker...

HolyOrangeCows5566d ago

HOWEVER, despite the headlines, I think they are more laughing off the retailer who falsely posted the Left 4 Dead Ps3 on their site.

But I'd bet my Left foot that it will someday get itself a port from EA.

Rampant5566d ago

all of those customers already play it on pc, except for the ones that own both 360/ps3? At least that's what I'm being told.

edhe5566d ago

but but but - don't all ps3 users also have a pc so they can still play MS 'exclusives' ?

somekindofmike5566d ago

@ solidt12

Some would rather not give there money to MS for a bad product, that's why I have a PS3 and an Apple Mac (that and I have to use Mac for work)

I avoid all MS products like the plague!

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somekindofmike5566d ago

@ Beware Oblivion

I have a PS3, no 360 and I am not fuming over this not getting released!

admittedly I haven't played it, given the chance I would definitely give it a go! It's just a case of so many great games out at the moment that I'm not going to get upset or begrudge the 360 if it gets an exclusive title I don't get! That's life!

Is it really up there with the great multiplayer games this gen? will it compete with COD4 which a year on I still play regularly! not many games now a days provide that much reply value, and if it was up there with COD4 I definitely get it, that is if it was to ever was hop across to the PS3 side of life. if not I will just have to find some way to survive!

Mindboggle5566d ago

I hate the way valve act like they have made the best game ever and it doesnt deserve to be on the PS3 and that people are begging at their knees to put it on PS3.

The reality is its just CS source with zombies. Its an average game which isnt any better than the FPS PS3 already has. I have the game on PC so im not fussed either way, I just dont like Valve's arrogance.

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GWAVE5566d ago

I love Valve's games, but I have no respect for their attitude. Left 4 Dead wasn't all that great. If they had given out more than 3 hours worth of game content and upped the textures, I might be more interested in it coming to the PS3, but if you want co-op look no further than Resistance 2 (where the enemies DON'T disappear 2 seconds after you kill them...)

bigman73875566d ago

I have both 360 and PS3 and I couldn't care less about this game. Yea, it's a decent shooter, and from what I've played of it (the co-op demo with 3 friends) its seems pretty solid. But if I wanted it bad enough, I would have bought it. But I didn't.

Would I care if Valve released it on PS3? Nope. Remember when Valve released The Orange Box on PS3 and it had the worst lag I've ever seen for an online game (TF2) and some of the most annoying framerate drops I've ever seen (HL2: E2).

Mindboggle is right, Valve does act extremely arrogant when it comes to the PS3. They scoff at anyone who owns a PS3 and turn their collective nose up.

SL1M DADDY5566d ago

But, but, but... If the games are out on the PC wouldn't that mean that they are not Xbox 360 exclusive?

*doe stare*

somekindofmike5566d ago

I agree that Valves attitude towards PS3 stinks, they have a complete lack of professionalism. It's alright to choose a platform and go with it, but to publicly talk down a competing platform is just childish.

It's just sad because as a PS3 owner I hope I don't miss out on Half Life 2 Episode 3, although with Valve's development cycles it probably won't be out until next gen :)

As a gamer in principle I would be more than happy for all games to be multiplatform, although there definitely is a quality difference when games are exclusive and I would miss that.

Reeperdotcom5566d ago

sorry to burst your bubble but Valve did not work on the ps3 version of Orange Box, EA did. And the reason that Valve "scoffs" at the ps3 is because they have told Sony multiple times that their hardware was hard to program for but did Sony listen to Valve...actually did Sony listen to any of the developers that complained? I do agree that Valve acts like a child when it comes to the PS3 but they have some merit when it comes to not wanting to develop for the PS3. Frankly, I hope the PS3 gets L4D, it is one hell of a multiplayer game!

bigman73875566d ago

You're right it was EA who ported the Orange Box. I was wrong.

But I still can't wrap my head around a company (Valve) who is supposed to be one of the best in the business that is completely ignoring almost 1/3 of the gaming population. It's like if Toyota decided to stop making cars for Europe. Would it make any sense for them to do that? And would you accept the excuse that "It's too hard" when many other car companies can make cars for Europe just fine?

Valve has lost a lot of my respect this generation for their attitudes. It's not because it's the PS3 they hate, it's because they are just acting so childish regarding a major console.

Mindboggle5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

If you would read my post you would know i actually got the game. I bought it off Steam the first week of realese. And whatever you say this game is an average FPS with a zombie twist. Its a fun game but not in the same league as Halo, COD4, Killzone and even Resistance 2.

Valve act it would be a privelage for L4D to be realesed on PS3, when clearly Valve have their head up their ass and believe theyve made the best thing sice sliced bread and being completely ignorant to the 20 million + PS3 customers.

And how can I be a fanboy for thinking L4D is average ?? I do not own a 360 but I own almost every Microsft realesed game, including Halo 1,2 and Gears of War for PC. Thats why I dont need a 360.

And Bigman I agree with you. I have lost all Respect for Valve for simply being the biggest fanboy in all of this.

Sarick5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

Woah, seriously I think if EA didn't own valve they might have been another Factor 5.

If customers are signing your paychecks don't try and make them look like idiots for owning a console or wishful thinking. Like the OP said "21 million AND GROWING potential customers" It's like slapping those customers in the face when Valve says comments like this.

L-a-i-n5566d ago

Any gamer out wants more games for their system. That is just fact, but company's like Valve just love to spit in the faces of people who want to be their costumers. It is just outright rude and annoying. That is why I could care less about Valve or anything they ever do. What if Bioware did something like this to you 360 guys about every game they make? You would be really pissed off right. I believe Valve as a company is good, but the people running it are just the worst kind of arrogant. Without those fans you guys spit on you would be in the unemployment line. EA needs to sell them to Microsoft and get it overwith.

UnwanteDreamz5566d ago

Phuck Valve and not because they havent made L4D on PS3. They could at least acknoledge that these rumors, and the attention they get, is a complement.

Please spare me the "hard to develop for" excuse. I heard it with the PS1 and the PS2 and it is getting old. Do you realise where console gaming would be now if they catered to developers?

Hint: Its called a PC consoles would be dead.

locos855566d ago

This is why Valve will never see my money, no matter how good their game is. They are such ignorant pricks!!!! They aren't dissing the PS3 they are dissing us who bought a PS3.

Consoldtobots5566d ago

I fail to see how the guy from valve dismissed anything, if anything it sounds like EA went ahead and had another team port it to Ps3. Sounds more like the guy trying to be diplomatic. Fanboys are grasping at straws as they see the ice under their favorite console start showing cracks.

Beast_Master5566d ago

Doesn't this game only have 5 levels? It looks cool but doesn't have the long term playability, level up system like COD and R2, why is Halo and COD4 still played more on XBL? those games have been out over a year before L4D. Valve already lost out on the PS3 base so don't bother.

LinuxGuru5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

EA doesn't own Valve.

@ below...you mean PC & 360, lol

SaiyanFury5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

Yeah Gabe Newell already called PS3 gamers "a waste of time". Oh well, so I don't get to try Left 4 Dead. With Demon's Souls, X-Edge and so many other great games coming on PS3, I can't say I really want to try it anyways. Funny thing is, I also own a 360 and could get it if I wanted to.

Edit: Yeah LinuxGuru, I realised my mistake and changed my post here. :)

evilmonkey5015566d ago

But it does own all publishing rights of valve software for a long while(years)....so they have the last say ....fortunately or unfortunately , however you wanna see it...

Joey Greco RULES5566d ago

for all the whiners out there.
"So it's PC and 360 exclusive still, but PS3 owners can always hope."
they said it, not me.

if L4D is such a "crappy" game, then why be so upset about it?

Why dis5566d ago

This happens with every good 360 game when the PS3 lineup is hyped and later in the year shrinks.

No Way5566d ago

You're an idiot. Left 4 Dead is not a bad product..

hippo245566d ago

Im utterly baffled that someone would say L4D is a bad game. Unless your just really hate shooters, zombies, and playing with friends.

The gameplay is as high polished as it gets, the game is fun, and you can play it with friends.

I could understand the game not being your "Slice -o- pie" but to say its a BAD game is to smack around originality and good game elements.(not to mention one of the best developers of our time)

likedamaster5566d ago

"But it does own all publishing rights of valve software for a long while(years)....so they have the last say ....fortunately or unfortunately , however you wanna see it..."

I'm going to disagree here. As in Disney and Pixar, EA has no rights whatsoever over Valve software.

hippo245566d ago

@likedamaster

That's a tricky road to go down because its all dependent on what is outlined in the agreement, I doubt Valve handed the entire rights of every aspect of the game to EA, just so they could publish it. Valve likes to hang on to its titles and if they really did hand out all the rights to EA then expect a "Left 2 Die", a "Left B3hind" and many other squeals to be following in their footsteps.

Now if we could somehow break into EA's office and find out what their business contract is, we could put any and all rumors to rest, but my "Sneak" level isn't high enough for that sort of stunt.

Marquis_de_Sade5566d ago

Picked up a copy of Left 4 Dead today after it has finally received a price drop to £29.99 in Game. Haven't played it too much yet, but looks decent enough and should provide a source of entertainment during the run in to Killzone 2.

RememberThe3575566d ago

is that they're supposed to be some of the most brilliant people in the industry, yet they hate the PS3 because they can't figure out how to program for it. Thats seems very contradictory to me.

cayal5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

I have a PS3 and 360 and I am not getting this game. I will not support a lazy developer who won't develop for a console because it is 'too hard'.

If it came to PS3, I still wouldn't get this game. In fact I'd mod my 360 just so I could get this game illegally just to stick it up that gluttonous prick Gabe Newell.

somekindofmike5566d ago

@ No Way

You misunderstood, I never said Left 4 Dead was a bad product! I said Microsoft have produced bad products being Windows and the 360, which despite having many great games you have to be the definition of a fan boy to defend the build quality of the product.

Left 4 Dead is a Valve/EA product and one which I definitely would give a go if it were to appear on a system which I owned.

FF7numbaone5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

as long as gabe fat ass is with valve I will never give them money. he Can keep his games because I do have a ps3 and pc but anything is free on pc. (borrow a copy,etc)

Marquis_de_Sade5566d ago

RememberThe357, Valves main audience has, and always will be, the PC market. It's simply because the 360 has architecture similar to that of a PC whereas the PS3 is very different.

Raz5566d ago

The HMV listing is there, all right; but EA's website lists it as only for 360 and PC - and certainly Valve's site doesn't say anything about it.

Methinks somebody either faked out HMV, or somebody at HMV is playing a joke.

prunchess5566d ago

There is a sh!t load of top games on the PS3 and the shoddiness of Valves work would be just shown up. Smell you long time Valve!

Nonsense 4 Gamers5565d ago

Gabe Newell is a fat sack who got KillZOWNED. He has got to be jealous.

Teabag5565d ago

It might be better to just write an Xbox 360 emulator for the PS3.

I'll see what I can knock up today :)

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PirateThom5566d ago

"So it's PC and 360 exclusive still"

So, it's multiplatform?

SlippyMadFrog5566d ago

It's a microsoft exclusive. Either way, msoft gets your money. Those of you buying it on PC to "stick it to the man" will fill msoft's pockets.

hippo245566d ago

Do I need to whip out my definition of an Exclusive???

even if a company denies access to the DS then its an exclusive.

gaffyh5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

@SlippyMadFrog- I'm not 100% sure about this, but I don't think MS make ANY money from PC games, because publishers don't have to pay a royalty fee for PC games. Also even the use of the "Games For Windows" brand is royalty free according to this article ( http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... Meaning MS doesn't make any money from PC games, which kinda destroys the argument that it's "Microsoft Exclusive".

I know you'll say that "buh buh but you have to buy Windows to play the games", but that argument is completely retarded, cos 99% of computers come with Windows already pre-installed, you can't do anything about it. MS doesn't make any more money from it, during the lifecycle of the product. Whereas with Xbox 360, companies have to pay royalty fees for every game and every disc.

PC & 360 are 2 different platforms = Multi-platform. But the game is obviously console exclusive on 360, so that's something.

SlippyMadFrog5566d ago

Good points but it is in Msoft's interest if the PC market is healthy. Windows comes pre-loaded on PC's which means that every PC sold means one copy of windows sold. If Sony owned the majority of the PC O/S market you would have seen the same thing with PS3 exclusives.

Msoft doesn't profit directly from games sold on the PC but a copy of windows is still needed to play PC games.

gametheory5566d ago

"It's a microsoft exclusive. Either way, msoft gets your money. Those of you buying it on PC to "stick it to the man" will fill msoft's pockets. "

Retarded argument. The point of buying a PC game instead of a 360 game is to get the superior experience and not risk getting RROD, not to mention that "LIVE" is free and the games are cheaper.

Is everyone a fanboy in your world? Besides, it's a given that people already use windows anyway, so Microsoft makes less money from the games you buy. Furthermore, one Xbox 360 less means less support for it and (perhaps) more support for PS3 (but you couldn't think about that one now, could you?).

Also, is it "Microsoft exclusive" like Bioshock and every other timed exclusive?

gaffyh5566d ago

@slippy - True, but I'm guessing that MS doesn't get as much money from those preloaded copies than if they sold straight to the consumer. But I get what you're saying.

Sarick5566d ago

I'm pretty sure the "games for windows" and DirectX code game design shortcuts into windows. These shortcuts use dev kits to make it easy to put on PC. They also allow the game unification.

I don't run games on my PC but I know there is a games explorer on it.

These windows games features could be sold to game developers on a royalty base. That means every time a developer decides to use the Games for windows features MS could charge them for the service shortcuts.

In this case the developer wouldn't be paying for the right to utilize the hardware but the right to use the services and features that make it easier to code games for windows.

I take it Valve does pay royalties just not the same type or percentage as the console market.

akiraburn5566d ago

@SlippyMadFrog, not to sound boisterous or contradict you, but what I imagine a decent chunk of people do/did, was to just snag a pirated copy off a torrent site, mIRC, or a newsgroup, and install it on their machine which is most likely running on an already ripped copy of Windows or Linux. Thereby they aren't contributing at all on the PC end of Microsoft's income.

I know you specifically mentioned those people actually buying it on PC, but the fact it's on PC means it can easily be ripped by one of the warez groups out there. The reason I bring this up, is mainly due to what the Crysis developer Crytek mentioned about their game's launch. About how a large amount of their game's sales ended up being forfeit due to the piracy rate on PC, and how they realize how important it is now to develop for consoles due to the dramatically reduced piracy rates.

Sarcasm5566d ago

"It's a microsoft exclusive"

*sigh*

One day I'll hack N4G and mod all the idiots myself.

blackpanther255566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

"It's a microsoft exclusive. Either way, msoft gets your money. Those of you buying it on PC to "stick it to the man" will fill msoft's pockets."

I dont care if i lose bubles, but i gotta say this you are a narrow-minded fool.
I don't care about this ps3 L4D crap. Personally i have two copies for my high end pc. What gets me pissed is that you are insinuating that anybody who plays games on their PC(instead of a 360)is sticking it to "da man". How about people who love to build computers, cg students, tech savy people, or etc who happened to have a high end PC because they love( or must to have) a high end computer.

For the love of god open your damn eyes. Everything is not a Motherfcuking war between microsoft and sony.

SlippyMadFrog5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

@ Sarick
I agree. Microsoft contributed lots to the PC gaming scene with directX and they surely charge something for developers to use it. Not to mention licensing fees for development languages and environments like Visual Studio, VB, C#, ect.

@ Akiraburn
Piracy is a different topic altogether. I agree that it is plaguing PC gaming and anyone who is developing for it. Msoft is facing the same issues with Xbox 360 piracy going rampant. I guess it comes with the territory.

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@ Black Panther
"What gets me pissed is that you are insinuating that anybody who plays games on their PC(instead of a 360)is sticking it to "da man""
I was replying to PirateThom(and many PS3 fanboys) who clearly is using the argument against the 360, not "anybody who plays games on their PC".

FF7numbaone5566d ago

Hey so you wanna play the Microsoft exclusive role and be a fanboy. funny thing is a could be a fanboy and not pay for those microsft exclusives and still play them anyway. Not saying I would but I could. Any1 can, so M$ may never see that money from the game.

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zootang5566d ago

I played this on the pc an it could come out on the Ps2 by the look of the graphics. 4 levels?

OmarJA5566d ago

It's not the graphics, the game doesn't bring anything new...

it's like a CS zombie mod.

ReTarDedFisHy5566d ago (Edited 5566d ago )

LIKE a CS Zombie mod?
Try EXACTLY like a CS zombie mod.
Okay, I'm exaggerating because it isn't EXACTLY like CS zombie - it feels like a $50 Half-life 2 mod that should've been free and would have won MotY from Mod DB :}

I felt ripped off huge. In fact, I get more play time on Zombie Panic: Source... pssh.

zag5566d ago

I have PC and PS3 and I'm not fussed about getting this on PC let alone on a console.

Mr_Bun5566d ago

Is no one going to mention the zombie game in Saint's Row 2 that actually came with game...in other words, it was free with SR2?

SlippyMadFrog5566d ago

It sold over a million already, I think it's at 2 million. Not bad for a "CS zombie mod".

hippo245566d ago

Ummm....wow....if anyone wants to criticize L4D then you may use the following arguments

-To short"

-Not enough content"

-Not enough weapons"

-Zoey"

Anything other than that is selling the game short of its Ingenuity, there are problems with L4D but unoriginality is NOT one of them.

Keowrath5566d ago

Mr Bun, I played the SR2 zombie game and it was ok, I played L4D 2 player around a friends house on their 360 and it was fun, better than the SR mini game by quite a long shot but I can imagine it getting old VERY very quickly.

Can the SR mini game be played 2 players? I never checked.

Mr_Bun5566d ago

I'm not sure if it can be played with 2 players...I'll admit that L4D is more fun than the SR2 mini-game, but I didn't find the lasting appeal. I played it once, beat it, and wasn't really interested to play it again. I don't think that it warrants the full price and I think that it should have been 29.99 at most.

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GrammarPolice5566d ago

Here's the thing- money talks. And right now, the money is with the 360. They have made the decision to polish their standing with 360 owners, or more accurately, fanboys, by bashing the PS3. While it may be a good move to strengthen customer loyalty, they are taking a huge gamble if they shut out the PS3. We all know how bad the economy is these days, businesses are folding by the hour. If companies are to survive, they need customers and ignoring a large and growing section of potential customers and revenue is irresponsible to stakeholders, especially for 3rd party developers. Once the PS3 hits the tipping point, I see Valve changing their tune.

Simon_Brezhnev5566d ago

yep and whats funny EA make the most money on PS3

PotNoodle5566d ago

Nah, i think if the 360 wasn't so much like the PC in terms of development i don't think they would of even touched it.

Shame though, i would rebuy this game on PS3.

HolyOrangeCows5566d ago

I google that and I confirm. That's strange...

solidt125566d ago

Yeah Money Talks and there are alot of PS3 owners out there with money. That is why it will be on the PS3 one day. EA

VampHuntD5566d ago

He didn't deny it! I still don't think it's more than a mistake right now, but I also think it's going to happen sooner rather than later. That statement is a more of a "I can't comment on that issue".

artzm5566d ago

@GrammarPolice, your pointing out exactly why they are choosing not to put games on the the PS3.... it costs money. Something which you pointed out everyone is lacking right now except for MS apparently who is willing to pay studios to develop for there system. Money talks, MS has it and Sony doesn't therefore Valve can't afford to develop for PS3. They aren't ignoring many customers, plenty of PS3 owners own a 360 and/or sadly just use there PS3 as a Blu-Ray player.

@imdaboss explain to me why EA's largest selling franchise sells more on the 360? The reason they make more on the PS3... it's a hell of a lot cheaper to port a game than it is to develop a game.

GrammarPolice5566d ago

Extend your argument out a bit. Pretty sure they would recover their development costs many times over in sales. You have to spend money to make money.

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tako20005566d ago

never care about this workshop, and never will

no-spin5566d ago

2009 is ruined for PS3 owners
no left for dead
no halo on halo doing halo

lmao

who does this valve fatty thinks he is?
PS3 owners wont buy it, too much exclusives that will take away those $60

hippo245566d ago

so no one would by L4D because they alrady bought a game?

Please elaborate why anyone who is not a poor 12 year old that has to get mommy to buy his games, would not be willing to spend money on a good game?

Im sorry the economy is tight but not that tight.

no-spin5566d ago

PS3 gamers have great options when they what to buy a game with this year's lineup. Is very likely that L4D would receive little attention between KZ2, Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Infamous, SF 4, RE 5.

tell me what you think...

hippo245566d ago

The same case could be made with its Xbox release It had to vie for attention during the holiday season, but it seemed to sell fairly well for a new IP.

Why could this not be done on the ps3, I mean there aren't that many more games coming out this year then the last. If all else fails release it over the summer, and Im sure you'll get a few sales.

Unfortunately we may never know :(

no-spin5566d ago

how much L4D sold?
anyway, assuming it did good, it was among GOW2, and fable 2
well that is fair competition, good for valve then

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies7d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken7d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing697d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker7d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing697d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt7d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken7d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein45d ago (Edited 45d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville44d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi44d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein44d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos44d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein43d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

Number1TailzFan44d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long44d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger8845d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake44d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts44d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername44d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai44d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long44d ago (Edited 44d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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