Resistance 3, Will Nathan Hale be the main character?

(This article has R2 spoilers)
For the many people that experienced Resistance 2, you know that it wasn't the end! For one, It left to many questions unanswered; second, there is the never ending dispute of what really happened to Nathan Hale; and three, its Insomniac, they always have something up there sleeves.

[rockleehong]

He death, right?

[TheHater]

Don't jump to conclusion. I for one think he isn't dead. He was given that really fricken insane ability right before he "die". So I say no, he didn't die

[Why dis]

Like HAZE

[Graphics Whore]

Hey Why Dis what games are you looking forward to playing on your Xbox 360 in 2009. Lol.

[infamousinfolite]

It's a time exclusive time trials game called the RROD lol. And Why_Dis gotta beat a number of games before it strikes why_dis' system if not that theres always multiplats. lmbo

[thebudgetgamer]

:)

[TheHater]

I don't think he die. He got that really fricken insane power at the end, and I would be really stupid to kill him as soon as he got that power.

[meepmoopmeep]

i don't think he's dead either
but it's obvious he won't be the main protagonist
but be the main antagonist.

[Max Power]

and it is because of the power that you had at the end of the second one, imagine "playing" the third game as, for the sake of a word, 'a God'

[infamousinfolite]

I was just talking about this in the forums. Yea I don't think he dies either. I mean it was a real bad way for Nathan to die. He probably has the ability to reginerate like wolverine, and others I can't think of.

[ThanatosDMC]

Dont remind me... it was an awesome "WTF" type of ending! All those battles just to be capped by your teammate... i killed 1400+ on my first run too... geez.

[Ethreon]

Don't think that he died either..
Bet he'll return as some maniac super awesome man/chimera overlord or something.. Final boss 4 sure.

[Doppy]

Capelli fighting on the humans side fighting against Hale.

I pray this doesn't happen. I like Nathan Hale, and I don't get why a lot of people bag on him. Master chief is a freaking green unknown, Jordan Freeman doesn't even talk, Marcus Fenix is a he brute, so why is it that all of these characters get a pass.

Anywho I hope you play as Nathan Hale, after Capelli shoots him in the head he instantly heals, and attacks Capelli, but a swarm of soldiers come and shoot him up (I mean let clips rain on him). Afterwards they put him in a cryogenic chamber until they can find a way to cure him (read on before commenting). Decades pass as the war continues and the humans have nearly lost the war (small scattered refugee camps are all that remain of the human race.), and the entire time Hale was frozen which held back his transformation (slowed it severely and trapped it in his cells, but not gone), until he is finally woken up by whomever. Afterward Hale must constantly inject himself with a serum to keep the Deadlus at bay, as he goes on his final mission for the world.

Now the more important points:

Instead of being stuck in WW2, which you would never had known had it not been for the radio broadcast in R2, they need to bring it to a more current era. Modern guns, more Chimera weapons, and they need to bring back a lot of the old weapons from R1 and R2 and the weapon wheel.

It's time to show us these true Chimera, and what they are doing on earth. Bring back the old Chimera from R1 and R2 Angels, Slip Skulls (especially the Slip Skulls for diversity), the Howlers, Window ? (the huge spider thing that blew bubbles in R1), and new enemies.

Focus on the single player more this time. Make a great finishing story, while adding more to the multiplayer. Make the A.I. more varied and don't have everything so scripted. Better Boss Battles (they were cool, but weren't awe-inspiring with the exception of finding the huge spider, by looking up).

Make 4 player co-op for campaign and 12 player co-op for online. For the online co-op mode keep your current formula, butadd more variety to it. As of noww you have various missions at anytime, but you know what to expect when you enter a certain part like Grims coming in the warehouse. Make the next co-op a mix of R2's class based system, with Left 4 Dead's AI director and that's a sure winner.

Online co-op I have no doubt it'll be at least 80 players if not 120 or maybe they'll try to top M.A.G. with 257 players whatever you do keep the balance like you did with 60 players. I think the same thing would work just with squads of 8 - 12 players instead of 5.

I think you could add another layer on to the single player by giving Hale abilities. Make him seem super strong like when you melee someone their skulls bust open or they fly back. Make his jump a little higher, just small things like that.

Graphics don't have to be on Killzone 2 level at all to me. Resistance is about scale and gameplay, and making a game that has tons of characters on the field all shooting it out takes away from what you can do visually, but the graphics should be a leap above R2 (R2 looked good, but could have been better). Water ripples causing huge waves need to go. R3 should look like the game Metro 2055, and check the link below to see what I mean (only look at pics. 15 - 17 to get what R3 should look like).

http://www.gamesradar.com/p...

Finally and the most important thing of all is to just make the game fun. Bring back the feel of Resistance: Fall of Man, because a lot of it was lost in R2. And add more Oh $h!t moments in the game. Make Grims burst through walls in a house as they try to kill you. Give R3 a little more terror not like a Silent Hill of Dead Space (which would be nice), but like Left 4 Dead kind of scare, and R3 will be the most versatile shooter that comes out during that year.

And just incase you don't know I loved R1 and R2. R2 is my second favorite PS3 games, and R1 was my second, but since a newer version came out it got bumped to 7th.

Top 10

MGS4
R2
Uncharted
Little Big Planet
Warhawk
Heavenly Sword
R1 (since R2 is 2nd I usually leave this out and add Ratchet for 10th)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Burnout Paradise
Motorstorm Pacific Rift

Oh and sorry for the long post, but I'm passionate about Resistance.

[callahan09]

God I love Resistance 2! Personally, it ranks among my favorite game endings of all time. And yeah, it was shocking to me. Didn't see it coming at all. Can't wait for this years Ratchet & Clank title, see how they improve upon their last couple.

[SL1M DADDY]

Ted already said they are taking the series to other people as protagonists. That is why he is not in the PSP game.

[cayal]

"Instead of being stuck in WW2, which you would never had known had it not been for the radio broadcast in R2,"

It's not set in WW2. It's set in an alternative reality in the 1950s.

[SAiOSiN]

since this is hale's story, imagine that your're the bad guy the whole game. or if not. hale can be the antagonist and a new character can be the protagonist.

[Bubble Buddy]

When I first played the ending, I was shocked at the ending. No ending left me with my jaw down for a few minutes trying to figure out what's going to happen. If Hale is alive and will be the main antagonist, then I don't want to play as capelli. I'm not really fond of him.

[Dark_Overlord]

is definetly alive, if you read the reports in the game it goes on about Hale and Daedalus (can't remeber his human name) being the 2 test subjects. However both were at opposite ends of the spectrum.

This leads me to believe that Hale may be able to somehow learn to control the chimeran genes within him.

It would be funny if every few levels Hale has an outburst of his powers and you get to go on a mass chimeran killing spree

[Doppy]

@ 1.9

Sorry I meant Cold War (hence the reference of Russia in the first one).

Cold War 1947 - 1953

Oh and I didn't mean Online co-op just online.
And the game should look like Metro 2033 not metro 2055 (don't know what I was thinking)

[hydro-lx]

@SL1M DADDY
the psp one is a spin off, not even made by insomniac.. and its what happened between R1 and R2... thats why it didn't have hale! fool.. and insomniac hasn't announced anything.. they never do.. they like to keep all there secrets till days after the release when price finally starts talking...

[fanboi hater]

great post i pretty much agree with everything

My biggest hope for the 3rd game is that it goes back to its roots. Imo the first game is superior to 2 in every way. There is more diversity, a better story, with the exception of the ending, better level design, more enemies (ie. howlers angels), better weapon system, better atmosphere, better artistic design, better online maps (although the new co-op is great even though i sorely miss split screen campaign co-op). If they can incorporate these traits into the 3rd that would be amazing. I respect what they have done in two and i greatly enjoy the game i just loved the first one to the point where i guess i cant be satisfied lol. As far as story goes i liked the fact that hail dies as the best endings are the ones where the hero dies, but at the same time i can't think of any other character taking his place in a way that would satisfy me. In any case hopefully they can come up with a creative story line and make the game amazing, which i know insomniac has the capability of doing,just hope its in a form more similar to the first.

[Mcrmarcher]

I think that the next main character will be capelli. Unless they introduce someone else.

[infamousinfolite]

...you probably right. I'm thinking Capelli is your main character. Nathan does not die (So easily), and you end up fighting Nathan Hail

[Polluted]

I'm guessing you play as Capelli with Hale as the main antagonist throughout most of the game, but, of course, Hale will defeat the sickness inside him and end up saving humanity in the end (possibly sacrificing himself in the process).

Just my guess...

[infamousinfolite]

and capelli dies at the end due to the fight he had with nathan.

[SAiOSiN]

no ratchet will be introduced in human form. he'll be very hairy, have huge eargs, and carry a wrench in his pants.

[PLAYSTATIONGENRATION]

One campaign as nathan then the other as capelli

[callahan09]

Now that could be awesome if they implement it all properly.

[negative_0]

the guy from resistance retribution? Maybe. Although the games not out yet so who knows what might happen to him at the end. Wouldn't it be cool if you could unlock alternate skins so that the enemies were characters from previous insomniac titles? Would be funny to see shoot chimeran clanks or use a special grenade to turn them into penguins like in R&C:FTOD.

[LightningPS3PS3]

If so, I hope they learned their lesson and bring back co op, to the story campaign. That's still the main part of the game.

I personally thought Resistance 2 was a big letdown because of that.

[thebudgetgamer]

you dont like anything sony

:)

[infamousinfolite]

A name change is in order maybe (toohuman360360) lol

On Topic: Nathan, I believe, doesn't die. I mean the ending of Resistance 2 wasn't the kinda death where Nathan dies for good, you know.

[SAiOSiN]

what your parents have created is a letdown.

[Cajun Chicken]

Actually, you have a very good point there. Campaign Co-Op was very important, same as I think that Ratchet should have multiplayer through PSN in the next game too.

I'm not really sure why you got so many disgrees for saying something that I thought was quite unbiased, a good bit of constructive criticism and true.

[TheColbertinator]

The location IMO for Resistance 3 will possibly be Australia.Its the last human stronghold against the Chimera.If you read the dossiers on myresistance.net it says that the politicians and VIP of England were sent to Avalon One(Australia) after the Chimera defeated the European Resistance in Italy at the battle of Genoa.

I think Capelli,that new protagonist from Resistance Retribution,and Colonel Rachel Parker will all be involved in the Australian last stand.

One more thing,why didn't the Cloven show up in R2?

[Jake the Muss]

Correct me if Im wrong SC, but isn't the Cloven the "original, pure breed" of Chimera?

On the level set in the Canyons in the single player campaign, Dr Malikov talks about the original strains of Chimera, and he said; "I believe you call them, the Cloven"... There are also some frozen Cloven in the same room. But if you meant why you didn't get to fight them, good question.

[rogimusprime]

were the HUMAN subjects MALIKOV experimented on, NOT the original looking chimera themselves....if I'm not mistaken. They were casually mentioned in the first games intel pickups...not really explored in depth.

I'm not going to hate, I loved the game and had a great time with it. But I am getting annoyed with these games that cost $60 before taxes, have a massive storyline, and then give you some 5 second cliff hanger ending after you waited 2 years to play it. Whatever happened to DECENT 5 minute endings?

Anyway, we know he's not dead, but maybe he'd be better off that way. Didn't the perimeter defenses fall and the chimera basically decimated the population? (Decimated would be optimistic the way capelli put things).

Maybe the British Characters from the first game that let you win their war for them single-handedly will come back to save the day.

[BobDog]

the cloven are the "pure breed chimera"

daudalus and hale is one of many the originel sentinels infected with the cloven strain, they were only 2 to survive, and only 1 didnt turn afterwards (hale) (daudeles turned and was improsoned, he escapes during the iceland level at start of game). The things in the tube at iceland were cloven.

[cayal]

Australia. I hope they put my house in there.

[Helghast Slayer]

Imagine R3 with the Killzone2 engine, *head explodes from the awesomeness*

[Dathwa]

in co op if u read the intel it says tt if either daedlaus or nathan died the other would get an insane amount of power so they should be kept apart at all costs, therefore nathan is definaly not dead and that is why "ths is this just the beginning"

[Relin]

There's also one of the co-op intel reports that states how Hale was being treated, *after nearly dying* in Iceland, by Malikov using some inhibitor that was designed to reverse his transformation.

It's possible he'll be the protagonist minus the super powers because Malikov was successful with the treatments.

[Helghast]

The Iceland incident they're talking about is at the end of R:FoM. In the very beginning of the game they talk about how lucky Nathan is to make it out alive, then Malikov uses stage 7 inhibiters to slow Nathan's conversion. All the Sentinels are infected with the virus but they use inhibiters to slow the conversion to a crawl. If the Sentinels don't take inhibiters often they will convert into Chimera.

[Relin]

I appreciate the history lesson, but it doesn't add up.

No part of R:FoM took place in Iceland, so talking about his near death there could only have taken place after he joined up with the Sentinels (it's a little vague, true, but I suspect he's referring to Hale's transformation after killing Daedalus at Holar).

Also, level 7 inhibitors are likely to be the highest level they have successfully tested (the intel mentions Zeta inhibitors, probably experimental). The inhibitors are used to slow/halt transformation, not reverse it, so again, things aren't adding up.

[dirtrider]

since resistance 2 FLOPPPPEEEEEEDDDDD!!!!

[JeepCreeper86]

Although it may have flopped in the industry, i still enjoy the game. But that seems to happen alot. I play games that not alot of other gamers like...

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They've already stated that Nathan Hale is the leader of the Chimera in Resistance 3!!!

How dumb are these people!?!?!?!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHH!

[interrergator]

agreed hes already turned into a chimera and he will probably try to resist it again

[devilhunterx]

Most likely it will be the guy from Resistance Restribution, James Grayson.

Rachel Parker, Capelli, one other will form a 4 party Co-op :)

[Bazookajoe_83]

He only took the bullet in his head because he had iron insufficiency ;-)

Jokes aside, i hope he comes back. But i dont know if i would want to play the game as a god. They would need to take away alot of his power.

[YonasJonas]

The end was my favorite part of the series.

RIP Nathan Hale

[Karum]

R3 would be awesome, give it to me in 2010 please.

[GUNKILLA]

i think you will be nathan hale i think u will be fighting the humans as the leader of the cimera and find out y cimera were like the because the humans made them or something

[beavis4play]

1. they need to send the game to russia!! too much info from R1 concerning people and events in russia to not go there.
2. bring back the "weapon wheel" and ability to use all the weapons. it lends the ability to use different strategies and adds much more fun.
3.come up with a better last level than R2 had.......that sh1t (especially the last "boss") was lame.
4. i like the unique look of resistance......as tempting (and awesome) as KZ engine would be, i think the look of the game fits the era ('50s)it's happening in.
5 the new weapons are fun, but bring back the arc charger. that was a great weapon.

and insomniac, don't do what HHG suggests and forgo a new ratchet game. i need the ratchet sequel!! too big of a cliff-hanger from last one to wait longer than this year.

[Kornholic]

I would love to see Cappelli as the main character. While playing the campaign I thought he was a badass.

[Cajun Chicken]

I think that Hale as we knew him is dead. Capelli was fleshed out as a character so much during the game and survived.
Resistance: Retribution has a new character. The Resistance franchise is just about people resisting against the Chimera.
Incredible ending for R2.
I think Hale as a human is dead as a doornail.

Actually, PLAYSTATIONGENRATION's point 3 above sounds like an interesting concept, but I'm betting Hale is still a bad guy.

I also think that the Resistance franchise won't finish as early as we think it will...ala Ratchet.

[SAiOSiN]

i think that they gave him a certain personality and characteristics for a reason. they were setting us up for r3.

[Cajun Chicken]

Exactomundo.

[enviable27]

Hale is dead people, im sure everyone that saw the ending,and saw his brains blow the hell up, it has to be Capelli in the next game its a given

[infamous_27]

I bet it was just a dream. The beginning of Resistance 3 will show Nathan waking up from that crashed airship.

[Cajun Chicken]

Personally, I would find that a little bit of a cop-out and like what happened in 'Dallas'.

[SAiOSiN]

i bet r3 will start at the part where hale got infected by the chimera virus. r1-r2 was just a long dream.

[PirateThom]

I don't think Hale is dead, but tt would be too much of a weird twist if you fought as Hale against the Humans. Hale might be the antagonist, but you won't play as him.

[altimako02]

the graphics sucked and i will not play resistance 3

[Legendary-Status]

na I dont know what your talking about I like R1 and R2 story especially when you fight that spider and is looking down on the land from above. way up in the sky...

[Reibooi]

Honestly it would be kinda retarded if they contorted the story to make him the main character. The ending kinda set up Capelli for that. If Hale is alive he will most likely be the big bad guy like Daedalus was in Resistance 2.

[gametheory]

It became so cliched, that's what I hated about Gears of War. The first resistance managed to not fall into the realm of predictability, and seemed like a story inspired in some of Carl Sagan's ideas. However, R2 delved deep into the realm of pre-packaged market researched bullsh1t in order to appeal to the masses instead, just like Gears.

I expect the next Resistance to talk about how the primitive chimera or whatever constructed those towers millions of years ago is somehow related to the dinosaur era. I remember Ted Price talking about how Resistance was some time ago planned to be about a race of space dinosaurs. Well, I think they might not be that far off, now that we know that the Tunguskan event might be related to the Yucatan Peninsula (especially considering that the final level takes place in Mexico).

I also expected Hale to be the main hero for the rest of the series. Capelli might be ideal to take the next role and save the storyline, but I doubt it'll take the direction I'd like. I wanted Hale to be infected with the Virus but his mind to actually keep resisting until the end. I imagined Hale somehow turning into a more Chimeran form but still retaining his humanity. Eventually his allies would want to kill him and he'd be forced to kill them while at the same time remain alone in order to discover everything about the Chimeran mystery, and destroy it (and the Cloven) from within.

Also, how come we never knew anything about Hale's life, memories, family, love stories. That would have made us closer to hale and would have made the story a lot more dramatic. There were very few cut-scenes, the intel documents sucked in terms of story immersion, the few questions that were answered had horrible answers, and there was a complete lack of narrative.

I loved the first Resistance because of its narrative elements, the mystery that shrowded the Chimera and its length. R2, while being a lot more polished in terms of graphics, vistas, animation, enemy variety, and having better guns and control, was too short, lacked narrative elements, had a terrible storyline, could have had more polish (even if it was more polished than the first, this game came out in holiday 2008), had pointlessly huge maps (what's the point of making the levels so big when you can't really explore? I wish I could have fought more chimeran ships and creatures in the Golden Gate Bridge and the city of San Francisco).

While the improvements in the Weapons were great (especially for the Auger and the new Marksman II), the game was so short that there was little chance to explore them as much as in the first one. I just hope that next time Insomniac sells the campaign, the co-op and the competitive separately so they can focus on each alone.

I liked the beta for co-op, but then I was disappointed with the rest of the levels. I think that if the competitive and co-op modes were optional DLC to be sold separately, then we would get much better campaigns and more polished multiplayer experiences. Also, that way you'd ensure you're playing against people that like multiplayer and not with people that feel forced to play it because they already got the game and are noobs.

Edit: @Below:

They looked great I just wish I could have pilot them or against them

[Cajun Chicken]

The visuals in those spaceships were amazing, I especially loved the layout of the last level.

[FreedomPhantom]

If he died from that one shot that is just stupid and i cant play as anyone else in the series but hale so if R3 isnt with nathan im not with R3 at all.

[OhReginald]

Capelli is probably the most bland, ugliest, dumbest character....if he would be the main protagonist it would literally kill Resistance 3 for me......how about having the main protagonist from resistance: retribution be the main protagonist in resistance 3????????? that would be sweet!

but ya i do NOT want Capelli to be the main protagonist. They need to find a way to get Hale back!!!!