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Co-Op patch for Killzone 2? "No plans," says Sony

Sony has moved to quash various speculation and internet rumour about co-operative play for Killzone 2 being patched in at a later date.

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Nastycrew5612d ago

I can care less if theres no COOP, doesnt make the game better, really, its just little more fun but thats it. Man, ill be on Multiplayer all the time, how cares about coop?

kwicksandz5612d ago

i dont need co op or cross game invites/voice chat!

You tell em n4g. Sony needs to get the message.

freeblue5612d ago

I know the PR job is to deny and not to confirm any future plans so the competitors won't have an advantage.. but do they actually read any gaming news??

ThanatosDMC5612d ago

I guess, that's kinda of good since i would have probably bought two copies and i wouldnt be able to eat properly for a week.

jaysquared5611d ago (Edited 5611d ago )

LOL! If the PS3 is actually able to do cross game invites/cross game private chat/ 8 player private chat/ coop in KZ2 you guys wouldn't be saying that! I bet you guys love having to type up your messages with the PS3s software keyboard instead of just being able to just send a voice message huh?

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redsquad5612d ago (Edited 5612d ago )

I don't mind co-op (online, NOT splitscreen!) in itself, but if it was slapped on to KZ2 to the detriment of the overall (apparently brilliant) single & multiplayer package then I'd prefer it wasn't there.

morriss5612d ago

Agreed. Co-op is a great added extra. Although it shouldn't be at the cost of the single player campaign.

thor5612d ago

I don't want to play co-op.

But if I did, I could go and play Resistance 2. Or another co-op game. It doesn't need to be a part of KZ2. 99% of games DON'T have single-player, co-op and multiplayer all at once, and very few have those all 3 of those modes awesome.

Co-op has always been debunked. There's not going to be any co-op. Think about it from their perspective - what would they gain from adding co-op? They've made the game, lots of the reviews have come in, and they're planning a big marketing push and they'll sell loads of copies of the game. By investing another load of money into a co-op mode, they won't make any money out of it, unless they charge, in which case there would be uproar.

It's all very well everybody shouting for co-op - but what if they just bodged co-op in as a patch very quickly and it was buggy, basic and not fun? It wouldn't even be played, and people would soon forget about it. They'd have to have had a seperate team working on it, just like the MP and SP, which would have multiplied their production costs by 1.5. It wouldn't have been worth it.

moodymofo5612d ago

a coop psn download could be a smart move for sony and gurilla if they dont wait to long i mean ive paid 10 bucks for map packs and i would defenatly spend the same for a coop mode if it was done right with matchmacking and rankings and im sure about at least 75% of the people who have the game and are online with it would do the same

thor5612d ago

But can you see my other point?

OK so people might be willing to pay money for a co-op addon.

BUT that doesn't stop the fact that there would have to be a huge amount of effort put into co-op.

Co-op is NOT easy to do. There are so many things that would need to be changed. So there really are only two options:

1) GG spend 6 months developing a co-op mode that can stand up to the quality of the SP and MP.
-Will anyone care by this point? Will people go out and buy it? Will there be anyone playing the co-op online? Most importantly for GG, will they get their money back? Likely, no is the answer. Furthermore, they're probably thinking about their next game at the moment. It would be considerably held back by allowing most of their workforce to work on a co-op mode.

2) GG spend a couple of months developing a simple co-op mode.
-It won't be of the same quality as the other modes. It will feel tacked-on. It won't have levelling up or other incentives to play. It will be glitchy. There will be inconsistencies with plot and you'll be just like the random dude who joins you in R1. The mechanics will not be thought through; reviving will likely be criticised. There will be freezes, framerate hitches and many bugs because of the added player(s). It may only support 2 players. It might have a very basic online lobby, where you can only start a particular level from the start. You won't be able to join in mid-game, or leave mid-game. There won't be voice chat. There won't be text chat. There won't be an indicator telling you where the other player is. It would most likely be awful and not even fun.

Countless things need to be considered. It would need to go through extensive testing. IT MIGHT NOT BE THAT GOOD! It's really not worth doing, if you look at it from their perspective. Otherwise, it's at least 6 months away, and I don't think they want to waste that much time and money. They could easily make a couple of DLC map packs and release them to make about the same amount of money as a co-op pack. Adding co-op to the game wouldn't increase sales by any noticable amount. It's just not worth doing.

retrofly5612d ago

Who cares its got 32 player co-op, COD 4 didnt have it and I've never even bothered with COD W@W co-op.

Imo its better to have it a few months earlier than waiting till summer so they can tag on co-op that no one really cares about.

Is it me or are journalists trying really hard to find everything BAD with KZ2 despite the insignificance, its like they want it to fail?

KZ2 is helping push the boundarys for gaming especially on consoles, this is only ever a good thing!

Frood5612d ago

It's the reason i'm not getting KZ2. I'm 30 and only got into consoles at 27-28 and co-op is the most important factor when it comes to games for me unless its a RPG like Mass Effect (yes i have both Xbox and PS3).

crck5612d ago

Split screen co-op adds a lot of value to a game for me. I'm the type that only plays through a game once no matter how good it is or how much I like it. Unless a friend drops by then I'll play it with them. As is KZ2 is a rental for me.

LeShin5612d ago (Edited 5612d ago )

....so you missed out on COD4, Half-Life, Bioshock, Uncharted, MGS4 and probably a lot more I can't be bothered to put down. Damn, I really feel sorry for you guys. Looking at my games collection now, if I only bought games which were split screen/ co-op I wouldn't have many good titles to warrant a console purchase.

crck5612d ago (Edited 5612d ago )

No I rented all those other games except for Bioshock and finished them all. So I didn't miss out on anything. I just don't have a bunch of games on my shelf that I'm never going to touch again. There's a big difference between the two. 95% of those games do nothing but go down in value so why hold them.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro95d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7295d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_95d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga95d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos95d ago (Edited 95d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2395d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200096d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin96d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole96d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix96d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198995d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor96d ago (Edited 96d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198995d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar400d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor400d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar400d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg399d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149399d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138400d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim400d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC400d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138400d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle400d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76399d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM399d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730400d ago (Edited 400d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger399d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca400d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy400d ago (Edited 400d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal399d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright399d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Top 20 Best PlayStation 3 Games (20-11)

Alex DS. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "Is the PlayStation 3 retro? This is a surprisingly hard question to answer as the system definitely has the age to be considered retro, having launched in 2006, over 15 years ago now. But with it being home to so many massive games, many of which still hold up today and in fact were released for the PlayStation 4 when that console was released, make the PS3 a retro console that doesn’t feel retro."

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shinoff2183771d ago

No ps3 is not retro. I dont even consider ps2 era retro. All imo.

shinoff2183771d ago

Typically, the term retro is given to items which are at least 20 years old (but not yet 40 years old).

Quick google search

badz149771d ago

No the PS3 is not yet a retro console. But if you're gonna put 1 game from a series in this list, then LBP2 should be there instead of the original, Motorstorm PR is also an overall better game than the 1st game and to put Tools of Destruction over A Crack in Time is a blasphemy when ACiT is the best game in the series.