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Killzone 2 May Struggle

This article is not, in any way, bashing Killzone 2's quality or potential epic status as a game. There is no question that Killzone 2 will be one of the biggest releases this generation has seen thus far. Given the trend of media geared toward negative PS3 news, it will be easy to connect Killzone 2's sales as a measurement to its quality. As most gamers know, sales and quality are not completely related to each other. Killzone 2 is another high quality title. However, there is evidence that Killzone 2 will struggle in sales. Here's why.

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Alcaponeyou5586d ago (Edited 5586d ago )

I played the Resistance 2 beta and enjoyed it but didn't buy the game.
Killzone 2 on the other hand, I already pre-ordered it without being in the beta.

lociefer5586d ago

well u no , n4g would never allow too many positive ps3 news , some1 has to bring smthin up to make fanboys happy , sales/lack of games/ps3 is dying . etc

Agent VX5586d ago

OK, so the dude makes a couple of valid points about North Americans historically liking shooters more than Japanese and Europeans, smaller user base in North America, and the possibility that KZ2 "Might" struggle to sell awesome figures. And now all of a sudden it has to be turned into some PS3 bashing???

Come on folks, he makes some "Possible" valid points and I agree with his assessment. And KZ2 better sell 4 million plus or this title flops. This is Sony's last hope until GT 5 and GOW 3. It better sell fantastic.

Blaze9295586d ago

Same, i played the R2 beta but just never got around to buying the game and dont think I ever will. As for Killzone 2, this is an obvious article just to get hits. Will it struggle with sales? Who knows, none of us are physic

Jamegohanssj55586d ago

Sony really needs to starts advertising now. The only game they did good advertising with was MGS4. I saw commercials starting from the last week of May all the way until like October.

TGSI

lociefer5586d ago

*And KZ2 better sell 4 million plus or this title flops. This is Sony's last hope until GT 5 and GOW 3* thts the kinda fanboy behaviour i was talkin about, thnx for makin it easier

Karum5586d ago

"And KZ2 better sell 4 million plus or this title flops."

You're an idiot. I've already -bubbled you once today or I'd do it again just for this dumb comment.

In fact for the first time I was tempted to make another account just to -bubble you some more but I won't bother, they'll disappear soon enough.

Anon19745586d ago

It's a simple fact that the PS3 is selling faster than the 360 did, and by quite a bit. 17 million by it's 2 year anniversary when the 360 only did 13 million. Obviously consumers get it.

That being said, I've said many times before that anyone expecting stellar Killzone 2 numbers is setting themselves up for disappointment. That's not how the PS3 works and sales figures show PS3 owners have more varied tastes. Killzone 2 will do just fine. By contrast the 360 has some 13 million users across the US, and the US love their first person shooters. The PS3 has 7 million US users, the other 12 million console owners live in Europe and Japan and, quite frankly, they game differently.

I expect Killzone 2 to be amazing, but don't expect it to do much better than Resistance 2 out of the gate. And there's nothing wrong with that. Hopefully this will make America turn it's head and realize they don't have to deal with shoddy hardware to get their shooter fix.

MasFlowKiller5586d ago

This article has some valid points but here are some better point

Killzone 2 #1 Pre-Order on Play.com
http://n4g.com/ps3/News-265...

PS3 exclusive Killzone 2 hits #2 on Amazon's pre-order list
http://n4g.com/ps3/News-265...

and the fact that i been to over 7 gamespot and cant seen to find one single demo code

ChampIDC5586d ago

Well, if the hype flying around this site is any indication, I think the game will be just fine. I don't believe I've seen this many articles about a single game ever. Thinking of that subject, if somebody can recall a game that got more online media attention, please, let me know. I'm really curious now that I thought of that. The closest I can think of would be maybe Halo 3, and I don't think it tops it.

callahan095586d ago (Edited 5586d ago )

Agent VX, don't be silly. Anybody who says that a game needs to sell 4 million to not be a flop is just being ridiculous. 4 million is what a game needs to sell in order to be considered EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL, not "not a flop." Look, PS2 has over 120 million units out in the wild, and do you know how many copies a game needs to sell to make the Greatest Hits list? 400,000. That is considered a very successful game. So why does Killzone 2 need to sell 10 times that, on a system with less than 1/5th of the installed base, in order to be considered "not a flop"?

And anybody who thinks that Killzone 2 will only sell well in America is in for a surprise. It will do very, very well in Europe.

The game is topping the charts of GameStop, Amazon, and plenty of other online retailers, American and European alike. If that's not evidence that people are excited to give up their money to play this game, then I don't know what else to say.

Anon19745586d ago

Do you have any idea how rare it is for any game to break the 1 million mark, let alone 4 million? Agent VX is simply being unrealistic. So far even on the 360, which most consider a success, only 5% of games ever broke the 2 million mark.

QuackPot5586d ago (Edited 5586d ago )

And getting the tin case as well. Hoorah.

Never played the Beta but seen enough gameplay to conclude KZ2 rock....mainly the MP. And if they bring in a patch for MP vehicles then I may finally said Goodbye to my fav MP, Warhawk.

Sales will be good not spectacular due to the type of game it is AND the pickiness and diverse tastes of the Ps3 user base - not full on hardcore shooter fans like the 360.

I just hope GG/Sony make a decent profit from it so that they'll bring us KZ3....which will be a masterpiece seeing that KZ2 improved exponentially over KZ1.

Lifendz5586d ago

It just went gold, it's number 2 on Amazon's preorder game chart, number one on play.com and Gamestop, and yet it might struggle? Oh puh leeze. The damage control is in full effect and the game is still a month away!

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IdleLeeSiuLung5586d ago

Agent VX is making a reasonable point, yet he get so many disagrees from Sony fanboys. Sony hasn't proven to me that it will sell FPS games and if anything Resistance 2 sales proved the opposite.

I will be buying KillZone 2, but I'm not delusional and frankly it doesn't really matter. I own all three consoles....

Mozilla895586d ago

I don't expect this to sell a million in a week. But I do expect it to get there much faster than R2 or LBP, maybe even MGS4. For some reason PS3 owners tend to buy games later and not on day 1. However if there is any game that could cause many PS3 gamers to buy it week 1, its Killzone.

jetlian5586d ago

ps2 games only needed 400,000 to make greatest hits but you also have to take account that games last gen didn't cost over 10 million to make!! let alone 60 million. the 4 million is a little steep tho

jammy_705586d ago

2 on amazon and 1 on play.com

its selling bette than that crappy new halo for christ sake!!!

so its doing well so far

godofthunder105585d ago

I agree killzone 2 looks like it will be a great game.If it was on the 360 i would buy it.This article have things in it that's isn't true.He didn't come right out and say it but he'a trying to say that the ps3 gets more negative news then the 360 and that is why the sales are low.The fact is that it's the opposite way.On every news chanel,electronoc magazines,and online had a report about how the 360 isn't dependable and how people was sending them back.On the other hand the ps3 NEVER had a negative report in the news.The fact is that the 360 had the hardware negative news and the ps3 never had any.The only bad news i ever seen or read about the ps3 was how much money sony is looseing on the ps3 and that was it.I'm also tired of hearing the reason the ps3 system and games isn't selling is because sony doesn't advertise good enough.The fact is that sony advertise just as much as microsoft.When LBP first came out it was on the cover of every game magazine and i've seen more comercials for it then any 360 games.The reason that LBP wasn't a big of a hit like sony hoped was because it's a childs game.I admit i would buy R 1&2 and KZ2 if they were on the 360.I would never buy a childish game like LBP even if it was a 360 exclusives,if it was i would say the same thing about it because it's the truth.If it was on the wii it would have been one of the biggest sellers of the year.The fact is that every one that ever played a game on a system heard of the ps.They also know what games are out.I don't have a ps3 and i'm not planeing on buying one but i know every game that's coming out on the ps3.When a person go buy a game 99% of the time they look at every game that on every system to see what they have.I also seen just as many comercials on tv as i've seen 360 comercials.The fact is that i'm tired of hearing every ps3 fanboys and 360 fanboys make excuses for the systems they have.They make excuses when a game doesn't sell a lot it's because of advertiseing or some other stupid escuse.The fact is that things are changing.The ps never had any competition till the xbox came out.people never had a choice they had to buy a ps if they wanted to play games for grownups.The ps will never dominate the game market any more because they finaly found a company that stuck with their hardware untill it started makeing a profit,Microsoft stuck with the xbox untill it started makeing a profit on the 360 this year.A lot of people are buying the 360 because they like it a lot more then the ps3 and that's a fact.It's not because they are to poor to buy a ps3 like 1 stupid ps3 fanboy said.I bought a 360 and i know other people that bought the elite 360 and they could have bought a ps3 but they didn't.Just because a person buy a 360 it isn't because they are to poor it's because they like the 360 more.Hell if the 360 was higher then the ps3 i would still buy the 360.I know that ps3 fans would still buy the ps3 if it was cheaper.I had 1 friend that bought a ps3 but when he played gears or war 2 and fable 2 he bought the ps3 back to wallmart and got a 360.

Its bias people like him that try to make it look like the ps3 get the negative news then the 360 and that is why the 360 is selling more then the ps3.the fact is that the 360 is still outselling the ps3 even when it has all the negative news.Ps3 fanboys(not fans)should stop saying the reason that the 360 is selling is because people that bought the 360 are to poor to buy a ps3.The fact is that not every one like the ps3 more then the 360.I think that the ps3 is a good system but i personaly like the 360 a lot more.I like xbox live more and it has just about the same games + the exclusives are better to me.I'm not saying that the exclusive are better and it's a fact.The fact is that exclusives are better to some people on the 360 and some on the ps3.

xwabbit5585d ago

lol i didn't buy Resistance 2 for the single player. The multi-player is freaking awesome and i though it would lag cus it had 60 players online but wow :/ i was rlly proven wrong. Buy Resistance 2 for the multi-player, its freaking awesome and addictive! But in killzone 2 i will OBVIOUSLY play the single player.

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Kain815586d ago

My people, sons and daughters of Sony. This much I vow.The history of this console generation will be written in blood.By crushing the fanboys of our enemy. By releasing the best game in the genre they thought to use against us.. we are fighting for our consoles very existence.But if there are those who want to deny us enjoyment. Refuse us our rightful place in this console generation. Then we will unleash such a terribly awesome FPS that generations of xbros yet unborn will cry out in anguish!

-break-

The enemy may shatter our sales but they can not break our spirit. Even now they advance on our metacritic gamesections to troll by force what they cannot claim by right. They cannot imagine what awaits them.WE WILL SMITE THE XBROS WITH THIS GAME.Though they sweep over our forums like the trolls of summer vacation. Never again will we be trolled by them; Never again endure their jealousy; Never again endure their lies and oppression. We will enjoy ourselves for hours without caring; playing as one hand, one heart, one soul. We will shatter their dreams and haunt their nightmares. Drenching our ancestors PS2's with their blood.And as our last breath tears at their lungs; as they try to rise again from the ruins of their RROD:ed consoles......they will know, Killzone 2 belongs to the Playstation 3.

Blademask5586d ago

so perfect for the role. imdb em if ya don't know who he is.

DARK WITNESS5586d ago

lololololololololo...

wow, some people really do take this fanboy war to another level !

Snow5586d ago

Give that man bubbles ! Alot of effort went into that.
I've watched that Killzone 2 intro at least 20 times now.

So i too know it word for word.It was very clever how you did that :P

Bob Dole5586d ago

That was deep man... Bob Dole thinks you should pass him the doobie.

OrganicMachine5586d ago

not this again.. haha

incase you n00bz and hothedz didn't know.. he took Visari (Killzone 2's version of hitler) speech and modified it..

it's just a joke and a very funny one.. I laugh because this is how fanboys act behind their keyboards..

Lombax5586d ago

but hey,
pass that doobie this way!

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ACEMANWISE5586d ago

Killzone 2 isn't exactly another basic shooter. I think it will defy the odds but the author has a point.

rogimusprime5586d ago

how is this even news. we all know the game is going to sell well. recession or not. I am going to get this game. I have both xbox and PS3 and not really a fanboy, just love good games. This game is going to be bad@$$...but this hype is just getting ridiculous.

bmatthews5586d ago

KZ2 topping Play.com pre-order sales and attaining a huge #2 in Amazon top pre-ordered games list says no.

ACEMANWISE5586d ago

I've seen big titles on PS3 hit #1 on Amazon before. It doesn't necessarily mean it won't struggle.

smurfie45586d ago

People seem to forget that there is a world outside of USA. I can admit that I'm a little skeptical regarding the advertising but its not exactly february yet. The marketing team may have some surpises up their sleeve but we will have to see.

Mr_Zkaar5586d ago

Way too much focus on the US by allot of people including Sony, like the EU is f*ck all. If you look at the hard facts, the 360 is loosing it's grip in the EU compared to PS3 and well Japan, it's game over for Xbox.

Kilzone 2 will sell very well, it's one of those monumental moments in gaming history, Killzone 2 is truly next-gen and PS3 Owners will want a piece of that, i know i will..

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro64d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv7264d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_64d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga64d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt2364d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball200064d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin64d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole64d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix64d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel198964d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel198964d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar368d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor368d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar368d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg368d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz149368d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance1138368d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim368d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC368d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance1138368d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle368d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix76368d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM368d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware730368d ago (Edited 368d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger368d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca368d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy368d ago (Edited 368d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

potatoseal368d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright368d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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Top 20 Best PlayStation 3 Games (20-11)

Alex DS. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "Is the PlayStation 3 retro? This is a surprisingly hard question to answer as the system definitely has the age to be considered retro, having launched in 2006, over 15 years ago now. But with it being home to so many massive games, many of which still hold up today and in fact were released for the PlayStation 4 when that console was released, make the PS3 a retro console that doesn’t feel retro."

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shinoff2183740d ago

No ps3 is not retro. I dont even consider ps2 era retro. All imo.

shinoff2183740d ago

Typically, the term retro is given to items which are at least 20 years old (but not yet 40 years old).

Quick google search

badz149740d ago

No the PS3 is not yet a retro console. But if you're gonna put 1 game from a series in this list, then LBP2 should be there instead of the original, Motorstorm PR is also an overall better game than the 1st game and to put Tools of Destruction over A Crack in Time is a blasphemy when ACiT is the best game in the series.