Killzone 2 Review By OPM Netherlands

Scans and tranlation of the Killzone 2 Review by OPM Netherlands.

"They say it's thechnically amazing, they say the atmosphere is really great but GG implemented less improvements in the FPS genre.

Graphics
Brilliant lightning and a many details that make KZ2 the best game graphically available for PS3. The Cutscenes are amazing.

Music & Sound
Overreacted death vocal reactions. In 7.1, Brian Cox takes the role as Visari.

..."

[Chris399]

Can't it just be incredibly well-executed and polished?

Call of Duty 4.

4.

Is it really innovative the 4th time around?

[Ninja-Sama]

Cuz it's a PS3 exclusive...duh.

[chaosatom]

:) But they marked down 30 points because it's ps3 exclusive. But still happy for Killzone 2.

It's going to get reviewed way more unfairly by other sites, but nothing can be done about that sadly. Bias is Bias, and Halo wars to going to get a perfect 100, even though they are never going to play halo wars again, but they will keep playing Killzone 2.

[Helghast Slayer]

I'm glad they hold ps3 exclusives high but at the same time it shouldn't have to re-invent anything.

[Danja]

well be prepared for alot more nit-picking from other reviews..

why can't the game just be plain ole fun to play ...nopes gotta reinvent cuz it's a PS3 game....

either way good score....can't wait to play it

[Sarcasm]

Agreed, this "innovation" excuse is really tiring. Halo 3 didn't innovate anything yet it got 10/10's everywhere.

[thebudgetgamer]

and what about the fp cover never seen that before

:)

[Maxned]

What? Why do you people say "They rated low because its a ps3 exclusive!"

What?! Come on. Fanboys arent running a magazine. Its being run by professional editors and writers. Lets get serious here.

[Sevir04]

people these days just cant give the ps3 any play.. they say resistance 2 isn't innovative.. and KZ2with it's innovative multiplayer match design and break through graphics arent innovative. ^^just let them be. this Gen, because the 360 was first to the next gen market, they changed the way the media looks at games. simple fact. That was MS's plan and it's working a bit to there advantage. Sony could have the biggest most acclaimed game on the market, the media will down play it because it's exclusive to Sony's platform.

[freeblue]

Kz2 isn't innovated.. it doesn't do anything new. But what it does in the areas of FPS. it has exceed every fing thing. what you think a prefect FPS should have, Kz2 not only achieved it but exceed even more in anyone's expectation.

[original seed]

are complaining about a 9.1/10. WTF is wrong with you guys? Stop being a such B!tches

[CrazzyMan]

They complain about that lame "innovative" excuse in review,
like Halo 3 or Gears 2 were innovative...

BUT that probably means, that +1 (atleast) should be added for every PS3 exclusive game score, while for x360 exclusive games removed. =))

[Sarcasm]

Nobody is complaining about the score. 9.1 is well deserved. Heck, even 8/10 is good.

But to use the "no innovation" excuse is stupid.

If that's the case, then every Madden game should be docked points for being "just another football game. Doesn't innovate the genre"

[ultimolu]

It's a PS3 game. It has to work wonders! :o

Well...I'm very excited for this game. Feb. 27th is when the Helghast die.

[ElementX]

You really think they marked it down cause it's exclusive? The review is from OPM as in official playstation magazine. Playstation mags don't care. Think before you post

[Watkins]

Well, I think I understand what he's trying to say.
Even if it's a playstation magazine reviewing they can still mark it down because its a PS3-exclusive game. Doesn't mean they are biased or anything, they're just expecting more out of a PS3-game, since that is the stronger console and should be (and is) capable of better games than the 360 from a technical standpoint (there's no denying this, really).

It is true however as they say in the comments, that they still have to review games on an equal level. It's a LOT easier for a game without hype to get great review because of just that, less hype. No one expects it to be the best ever. But if a game with great hype is reviewed, reviewers tend to review the title according to expectations, and not relative to other games (which is wrong).

[Pika-pie]

Why do fanboys go totally ballistic over the slightest bit of minor criticism, why do fanboys feel that they have to defend a game they have never played.

I just dont get it. They just ignore everything thats great about a review and feel offended by 2 lines of critisim.

Well in my opinion this game probebly should have innovated more instead of being just another FPS. A game that carries so much hype should live up to that hype by giving its players a new in its gameplay mechanics instead of just a highly polished environment. Makes sense really.

I get the feeling this game is going to be remembered for its graphics and not so much its gameplay.. But I hope I am wrong!

[Maddens Raiders]

...why wouldn't he; he was the voice of Visari in KILLZONE..?

@Element X -

try taking some of your own advice son and ((think)); period. You're in the wrong room buttercup.

[George Sears]

Great score. I just pre-ordered my copy at Gamestop, can't wait to try the demo out and see what the fuss is all about.

[Spawnofgods333]

does anyone know if the preorder demo will have multiplayer in it?

[gunnerheadboy]

Probably only Single Player. I'm basing this off the PSU interview:

http://www.psu.com/PSU-Excl...

"PSU: Are there plans to release a Killzone 2 demo on the PSN before or after the game’s release?

MdJ : Yes, a playable single-player demo is in the works and will be released prior to launch. "

[cayal]

"Great score. I just pre-ordered my copy at Gamestop, can't wait to try the demo out and see what the fuss is all about. "

I pre-ordered mine today. We don't get the demo in Australia, we got tin case thing. But I decided to pre-order it anyway and take my monthly day off on the day it comes out.

[interrergator]

atleast they love it

[Spike47]

is not necessarily correct.

[brianleppez]

Reviewing a game for what it doesn't have or does. It's like downscoring Fallout 3 for not having online component... Dude, review the game for what it has, not for what other games have...

[cayal]

What FPS is innovative?

[Ph1d0sX]

high quality multiplayer with lots of options. probably tons of innovating stuff in their engine to get most out of the ps3 which will benefit to all ps3 titles eventually. Especially that light render system what lits the game super realistic. Of course I'm not a game journalist so I guess what I find innovating about this game isn't really impressive. never the less 91 is a awesome score but considering they didn't find it innovating it could easily be a 95 I think

[Jazz4108]

So how do you know that its inovative enough? Many reviews saying the same thing, most all coming from official ps magazines. I cant imagine what the non biased cites are going to say about is inovativeness. My point is you have not played this game, the reviewers have, so how can you doubt them is beyond belief.

[StephanieBBB]

I would say that they complained that the map design or encounters wasn't innovative enough. Maybe lots of deja'vu/boring encounters and copy paste level design.

But who knows rly...

[Madgunner]

that excuse is pretty dumb... i'd like to see what scores the next call of duty will get and if it will get ANY inovation complains.. probably not because from what i understand its si fi and they will get a pass for that....( as if that hasent been done already either) really i cant see IW redefining fps genre plus... cod4 was the same as other cod's.. just FASTER pace.

[gunnerheadboy]

Well, Killzone 2 is sci-fi, too.

Also, they did innovate; the first ever fully First Person cover system. Each game with cover system (Brothers in Arms: Halls Highway, Rainbow Six, ect...) automatically change to Third Person in cover.

[Madgunner]

yeah i know, and thanks for reminding me about that... there are so many things kz2 does so very well the new Cover system is completely new hasent been done before the badges system is something similar to other games but different in its own way the use of sixaxis controls from what ive seen.... looks like its actually been well thought up rather than Tacked on there just for sh1ts and giggles. not only the game sports the BEST graphics on a console its got FUN gameplay to boot and It innovates quite a bit, atleast more than what i can say for some of these other noob as games that get overhyped

[gunnerheadboy]

Yup. I also think using the Sixaxis to steady your sniper rifle is very innovative. None of the games that I own do that. They all use the R3 (which after long periods of time, can wear out your controller).

[brianleppez]

I think... But it even if it does, Killzone 2 executes it flawlessly. That's what I heard from a website.

[gunnerheadboy]

Socom always stays Third Person, even when you're in cover.

Killzone 2: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
>Look at the very begging.
>Or at 0:14 seconds.

It's fantastic!

[Dissidia]

You just keep on showin that video. LOL

[TheMART]

Yes I will, although I could also show you these if you like it

[mrdxpr2]

mart is a 14 year old spoiled american idiot ...

[resistance100]

@TheMART at Xboxkings

I love the fact that you take that picture with the note, while the Ps3 is turned on. So in other words your actually using it which does tend to suggest that you really don't think its 'poo'

[ultimolu]

MART, IF YOU DON'T WANT YOUR PS3, THEN SELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO REALLY WANTS IT.

YOU ARE ANNOYING.
YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME.
YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO GAMERS.
YOU WHINE ABOUT EVERYTHING.

GET A LIFE PLEASE!

[PoSTedUP]

gooooose-fraaaahh-bahhhh

looool

now take a deep breath, feel betterz?

[karlostomy]

Juuken.

Just looking at your comment i would suggest all of what you said applies more to YOU than anyone else!

[THC CELL]

Mart is dutch mrdx...

mart to bash something u own u are very sad
Just go sell ya ps3
play ya wii and xbot and shut the fu*k up from now on
cause u are just like PP you get a hard bell end and u cum on ya xbox
just like jack black

ps3 and killzone are winners
u are a loser

[Obama]

So what if Mart owns a ps3, does it make him less of a xbot? Mart is like a homophobic gay who is still in the closet.

[n to the b]

You r just as much of a tool as Mart.

Congrats on getting another great PS3-only game. It's 1 of a few that make me a little envious. However, you're 1 to talk about Mart with your g@y-@ss 'xbot' comments all over f*cking n4g.

SINCERELY,
n to the b

[Obama]

I never deny that I am a big ps3 fanboy, but at least I am not sticking to bullshit claims that Mart makes everday.

[Shadow Man]

I can sleep at night now.

[swiftshot93]

-

[THC CELL]

and the Game is 2 gig per level
yawn

thats 4 levals at 2 gig on dvd
i perdict it would take 8 dvds for killzone

I might be wrong

Plus the developers have not said what size blu ray they have used

[Shadow Man]

That damn blu-ray can Holds 50gbs of data and still can't make the game longer than 10hrs. Is just like DVD.

Oh well can't wait for killzone2 @ my friends house.

[gambare]

yeah, quoting Rucky: "I wonder why Final Fantasy tactics takes 50+ hours using one CD-ROM when Gears of Wars only last 10 on DVD-9? Same logic right?"

[THC CELL]

they did it in 8 hours on normal easy u clown

Lets see how long it takes on hard or very hard

God some people

Go pray ya GTA DLC are worth the 50 million dolla wait man

[Ichiryoka]

These guys are cracking me up with this, "It could be longer." I think they fail to remember all that going on with the online portion of the game. The graphics are brought over from the single player. yes it looks just as good online as it does in the single player campaign.

Not only do the graphics hold up but the atmosphere holds up as well, with walls crumbling, smoke billowing,and wind altering your grenades path... you see what i'm saying. Not only that but all the features that were included with online as well. I think they did an excellent job with the game as a whole from what I have read in the reviews and seen in the videos.

[Bathyj]

How can you overreact to dying. I would have thought if dying didn't ruffle your feathers nothing would.

Oh, and "best game graphically available for PS3" not just any console but PS3.

Dont get me wrong 9.1 is good (if not about half a point to low) but anyone else feel their just looking for things to mark it down for.

[Perjoss]

who cares, really.

reviews are just a guideline, hell they are just something to read while you wait for the game to come out, they might let slip some info you have not heard yet, so i guess they are useful in that sense. Play the game and make up your own minds. Personally I think KZ2 will be kinda epic.

[Jazz4108]

Remember all that you know about this game is what you have read.

[smurfie4]

I could care less whether it innovates or not. It's fun to play and that's what counts the most.

[Spike47]

towards a certain game.

[Crazywhitie]

Here the difference of Halo, GTA and Killzone... GTA and Halo Both have made a name for them selfs.. Killzone has not, the first killzone was horrible , Second this game is way over Hyped, Yes it does look great. maybe they should have worried more about other areas of the game more then the graphics.. This game is coming to the PS3 having people saying that it's going to save it.. I don't believe it will save it because it's not in Danger.. Instead of every PS3 troll on n4g crying about the reviews, What until you play it and know that this is a big.. HUGE step forward in Console Graphics.. And a 9.0/10 is a Great FPS... not to many of killzone 2 review have been out of the 9's

[Bathyj]

Firstly Killzone is a good game and thats it.

2nd This game isn't overhyped. Havee GG or Sony raved about it? No. People who've played it keep talking good about it for a reason. Thats not exactly over hyping.

3rd to say maybe they should have worried about the stuf other than graphics is foolish. Every single aspect of this game is awesome. Thats why people keep talking about it. Once te haters realised the graphics were untouchable they sstarted saying the gameplay must be crap. Then they found out than was fun, so they started picking on AI. Now we know Ai is good, so now the game doesn't innovate at all.

The sky is blue, water is wet, and haters will hate.

[RememberThe357]

SO what your saying is that Halo 3 and GTA4 got 10's because people like the franchises, not because of the games. Well, that has the make sense because those games were defiantly not 10s.

People want to know what this game does, not what it doesn't do. This reviewer had the nerve to knock the game for "Overreacted death vocal reactions", as if dieing would hurt...

How is it that this game not innovating is bad but other games not innovating is OK. And on that point, when did innovation become such a big deal to reviewer? They never seemed to care before...

[Crazywhitie]

HAHA you've got to be kidding me.. Bathyj@ you keep talking about the game in the 3rd person, People say it's great, Well this guy said it wasn't so Great...

^^^^^^^^^ PS3 Trolls ^^^^^^^^

[QuackPot]

^^^ you mouthing off about Ps3 trolls in a Ps3 section you idiot.

Trolls go into other console sections to complain and put down. hmmmmm, much like what you are doing. Go figure.

You are the only ***** TROLL ***** here fool.

[IronAva]

Can anybody be happy with anything less then 100? The main question is; are you still going to buy the game? If the answer is yes then why care about someone else’s "OPINION". If this game got 3 out of 100 I would still buy it because this is a game "I" want not what some reviewer thinks I should buy. Every time a PS3 game gets a lower score then what "others" think it should receive, its because the site or mag was bias. Well this review came from OPM so I guess they hate PS3 also. The day I care about a review score (someone’s Opinion) is the day I stop playing games. People not every person on the planet is out to get Sony.

Play Games not Systems

GT/PSN: IronAvatar

[Danja]

can you pint out atleats 3 comments in here complainig about the core thay gave..

ppl are complaining that every single time a PS3 exclusive is reviewed points get deducted from it..for petty reasons..

How can they say KZ2 doesn't innovate...the MP is pretty innovative...which other FPS has a cover system that stays in FPS mode when you go in cover..?

yet every single review so far about the game is complaining about lack of innovation...as if they are trying to actually find a fault with the game...but can't seem to find ne ....so they say it doesn't innovate but has yet to give one reason why it doesn't...

COD:WAW was a COD4 clone with WW2 make up yet it got high scores and no-one mentioned that it's just the same as COD4....just different setting

[IronAva]

My point is, its getting old. You have just stated that "YOU" feel that the game does not lack in any of the areas the review stated. So point in case is, it does not matter what this guy has to say about KZ2. You are still going to buy it and that is all that matters. I love my PS3 but for goodness sake, I am starting to see that I am no longer a Hardcore gamer as things like this(someones OPINION of a game) do not get to me like they did in the past.

[Siesser]

I definitely see your point there, and to be honest, most of the users on this site would whole-heartedly agree with you - a score and review are just one person's opinion out of many. I pretty much base my game buying decisions off of previews, video, and any major flaws pointed on in reviews - if I hadn't bought all of the 6 and 7 out of 10 games that I thought looked intriguing to me, my library would be much smaller and less enjoyable.

The reason it matters, though, is that not everyone goes online and follows a game through development and reads inside interviews and what-not. We are, despite our raging numbers, still a minority in the industry's eyes. That leaves a large number of people that do rely on gaming mags or online reviews as their sole source of finding out whether a title is worth buying or not. And this is where the problem lies - not that they've formed the opinion that they don't like the game or take issue with some minute facet of it, as is their right. Rather, the fact that there is a long laundry list of remarks that come so far out of left field in regards to perceived issues with this and other games - issues that may very well exist and need to be pointed out. But issues that NO ONE has ever seen pointed out in any other game before, or to the same extent.

I'm not going to hate on a guy for not liking a game (and the reviewer gave it a 9.1 out of 10, so that clearly isn't the case here), but I will remain ever frustrated at the fact that:

A - the perceived success of a game is determined by aggregate review scores
B - the perceived success of a game is then determined by unit sales day one/month one/year one
C - the perceived success of a game is then determined by console sales spikes

Sadly, there's no way around this, because one begets the other, which begets the other. I have no problem with reviewers, because they perform a good service in taking the time to find the good and bad in a massive industry. I just have an issue with the, I guess, power of said reviews; with the knowledge that so many that aren't in our little minority will take the words of one or two people as doctrine and make a decision based on that. We have the ability to even question a review, under the assumption that what we've seen and read hasn't suddenly been proven wrong - which is a rarity indeed. I can't think of too many other products that have as long a lead-in time of public awareness, what with trailers 3 years in advance, tech demos, trade shows, betas, home demos, previews, etc. There aren't many places where you can dispute a reviewer while never having touched the game - and those that base purchases off mag and review scores probably don't have the insight to do so.

I could never be a reviewer - I'll admit that up front. I'm too biased toward certain genres to ever judge all of them fairly. But I can look at an individual game and equitably say what was right and what was wrong. And the second I have to start leaning back in my chair and spinning in a circle trying to come up with creative ideas for the latter, I'll know I need to find something better to do.

Long rambling post there, sorry. So, are people upset at the score? Probably not. Merely at the nit-picking, and the perception that said picking is what lowered the score. "The game does not innovate"? That's fine, if you really believe that, but that is wrong. Cover system, Warzone play, seamless and logical sixaxis use, etc. have all been shown and wowing people since the first gameplay trailer. Are these things not new? How many great games over the past years were truly "innovative." It's such a baseless, seemingly added in category - most games are judged on story, graphics, sound, online/multiplayer/longevity, execution, and fun - you know, those things that make or break a playing experience. Innovation is like judging the spirit of the game, or something - how it changes your life and the way you play a series or genre. That's a huge negative to go flaunting around, because few games do so, which is why you rarely ever see that listed as a flaw in a review.

Now, the fact that this is from a Playstation mag makes the claims of bias against Playstation brand kind of ridiculous, but there exists precedent of such from other third-party sources, at least as far as the wording and structure of their reviews. Hence the complaining you see going on here.

[James Vanderbeek]

Its either a good fps game or its a bad one. And killzone 2 looks to be freaking great..

I wish these reviewers would elaborate on what they mean by innovate.. i dont remember halo, resistance, cod4 or any of those games innovating anything in the fps gerne. They were all great in there own way but bottom line is that there all freaking shooters with different niches.. A fps game is an fps game.. Just like sports games are sports games. how the fu@k are you going to innovate anything?? maybe they want to hold an actual gun and play an fps game... its so pointless to even mention that sh!t...

[QuackPot]

Even with a FPS.

* FP perspective Roll, Kick, strangle, Hold,Punch etc - I haven't seen the FP Roll ever done before.

* manually reloading magazines, bullet by bullet - new dimension to gameplay

* Finite Ammunition - new dimension to gameplay

* vehicles requiring manual refueling/rearming - new dimension to gameplay

These would have been innovative and added a huge amount of realism to the game. And with a finite fuel and ammunition supply adds a new dimension to gameplay.

Mark my words. These will be eventually come. But wish GG had done these with KZ2. Then we would have shut those critics up.

[Siesser]

Don't intend for this to sound negative, I just have a bad habit of pointing out opposite sides to issues, even those I agree with.

First one's been done in Mirror's Edge, obviously not a shooter, but there is precedent. I've never been in a war with armor and guns and stuff (unless you count paintball), but I'm not sure how much rolling and flipping you do with all of that. First-person grappling/hand-to-hand exists too - there are games you can punch in and stuff. Specifically choking someone? Dunno if I've seen that. Takes a while to choke someone though...if you're being realistic.

If you're in the middle of a firefight, where are you getting bullets from to place into a magazine... If this is something that really happens and needs to be done in a firefight, then go for it, I'll admit I know little about using weapons in real life - I'd be happy if I found the safety.

Difficulty levels of certain games will reduce the amount of ammo you get, the amount of pick-up spots, etc. I know I often found myself running out of stuff in Resistence, but I may have just been an inefficient player.

Typically, you're not in a vehicle, in a fight, long enough to run out of gas. Unlimited ammo from tanks and stuff I'd almost agree upon, if it weren't for the fact that those things typically are stocked to high heaven with rounds. You rarely drive for miles and miles at a time in a game, so there'd be no need to refuel. And if I'm being fired upon, I'm staying away from gas stations.

These things you listed would indeed be innovative, but practical or fun, maybe not so much, unless the dev really did it right somehow.

[xg-ei8ht]

Best A.I I've ever played is in UNCHARTED DRAKES FORTUNE.

Easily.

[weezy12]

i really just want a xbox 360 right now gosh

[Perjoss]

you seem a little confused my friend

[Unicron]

This game will be slammed for "lack of innovation." I'm sorry, but I was expecting a solid and fun title, not the holy grail. Is that so bad? But nope, everything has to be a "revolution" these days.

*sigh*

[Perjoss]

all this innovation talk is crap, reviewers complain when a game is 'not innovative' and then when a game has innovative features in it they dont even praise them. Like the reload system in gears for example, I never read a single review that praised this feature even though it was fresh.

In every other shooter you just hit reload and wait. With the gears reload system they added a minigame that allows you time your reload to make it faster or if you get i wrong your gun jams and takes even longer than normal to reload.

[weezy12]

unicorn if you want the holy grail get an xbox 360 with me

[Unicron]

I love Live and the controller, but I really have no need for one. Most of the big titles I can get on the PC, and I still have a huge backlog of PS2 titles to finish. It would just be a waste for me, but I hope you enjoy yours!

[weezy12]

um if your not getting one if your not i just wanted one to see the red lights flash.... and what do you mean all the big titles you cant play halo 3 halo wars halo osdt halo the search for the holy grail on pc what are you talking about?

[Unicron]

Halo doesn't interest me enough. Mass Effect, L4D, Gears, Alan Wake... and honestly more than likely Gears 2,Fable 2, and Mass Effect 2 as well.

[WIIIS1]

Not surprised that this game isn't exceptional in terms of gameplay. It was obvious at the outset that all the money and time that went into developing the game focused on graphics only. Nevertheless, as long as it doesn't disappoint the way MGS4 and Resistance 2 did last year, it is worth worth a shot.

[Sitdown]

haha, you must really despise your bubbles.........you have just committed an n4g sin.

[thehitman]

they want us to shoot a gun???..... innovative my ass....

[Qbanboi]

Good enough for me.

[Ausbo]

halo3 did innovate in the online department and the communtity. Why are you guys all conspiracy theorists. 91 is a good score and you should be happy for it. Unless you have played the full game you can't call killzone a 100. anything over a 90 is a first-day buy don't expect every site to give it 100. not every website is freaking g4

[QuackPot]

....and lack there of will be the main criticism of KZ2.

Meh.

[mastiffchild]

why does none none of the new innovative tech count that they used?They didn't cobble yet another UE3 game together did they? It's also pretty new to beat such a great target render. The fact the had to reign in the realism on the deaths so we didn't get the crumpled messes of acual war so they used an INNOVATIVE half animation, quarter physics and quarter mo cap system doesn't count?
And the cange ing on the fly multiplayer is in every game ever too I guess-like it was in Bioshocks outstanding MP? And why was WaW allowed 10s when all it di was change COD4's guns for rubbish ones? Or does Gaz Oldman merit a 8/10 on his own?

[Bathyj]

Good point Mastiff.

Although everyones going on about the graphics, that about all the apreciation being given to the technical side Killzone.

Theres so much going on in this game, and I dont mean onscreen. How about some credit for making an engine better than practically any other, tailor made for PS3. Its a mighty feat, and the PS3's never been strapt so hard with so many SPU's doing so much each.

Does anyone know if and devs still make games only using the PPU and RSX? It seems hard to believe anyone would when you see the results of proper SPU useage. I suspect multi plat game hardly use them.

[karlostomy]

About in line with what I expected.

I will stick my neck out and predict that this will be its metacritic score, after about 50 reviews have rolled in.

who agrees?

[no-spin]

between a 360 game and a PS3 game is that Reviewers for some reason expect each and every single PS3 exclusive game to rewrite gaming history.
the innovation line is never used as a con for a 360 game because of what is expected from a 360 game:
- fun gameplay--check
- hd graphics--check
- live component (multiplayer, marketplace, DLC etc)-- check

Review-- 9/10

is either that, or they are totally biased, you decide

[Unicron]

It's true. Every PS3 game is reviewed with the criteria of changing gaming as we know it while walking on water and doing your taxes.

[Ausbo]

as being a 360 only gamer I recongnize that ps3 titles have to live up to enormous expectations.
Heres why: The hype-ps3 games get more hype than do 360 games killzone is getting more hype than gears 2 got.
First party titles: ps3 has some amazing first party titles and you could throw in metal gear 4. Now if you played that game all other great games just seem average now. the quality of ps3 exclusives are so high that if it doesn't innovate like lbp, metal gear,etc than it doesn't get top scores.

Don't get me wrong though 91 is a great score and a worthy buy

[spike]

THE MART IS GOD

[ilkercruiser]

When will we see an UNBIASED REVIEW?

[mastiffchild]

Umm they shuld be they aren't Sony but really more Gamesradar who hate PS3 more than any publication on earth. so yeah when do the unbiased things come out???

[Johandevries]

Dutch pride!

[mastiffchild]

PS3-Rolling Stones/Beatles.360-James Brown. While the Stones/Beatles/even Bowie were as talented(far more so imo than
old JB)they were constantly under pressure from the media to reinvent themselves or their sound-which they did causing some of the biggest leaps forward in pop music and culture. JB, on the other hand got rave reviews for years for releasing EXACTLY the same stuff-good though it may have been.
Why do games mags need PS3 exclusives to be the beatles or the Stones? Why is it OK for Halo to be James Brown?
And does this mean Master Cheif will end up like JB or Ike Tuner-a bit of a nasty old git weith a pervy streak a mile wide?
Killzone2 IS a better game than Halo3(ZOMG I said it!) but it should be time moved on and besides Halo as a FPS never had to since the early "better than Doom/Quake" era of 1 and 2.
IDK 91/100 is a great score and had it been out of ten you may have seen a perfect score with the same written words and certainly if it had been out of five.Marks out of 100 are a MUST IMO.
Why can't being the very best FPS be seen as innovative(ie noone ever achieved it before-no its BS)and what about WaW getting 10s? Its a ww2 expansion pack you pay full price for!!!6/10 tops considering the price.
Wait for the 6 from Edge,7 from GR, 6.5 from GD, 7.5 from Kotaku and the probable 4 from GT just to big up the innovative likes of L4D and Gears2 again(not that I think they're poor, i think they're both great but they aren't as pefect, or close to, as what I've seen and plyed of Killzone2.)-they have far bigger flaws-if it weren't for the co-op would half as many play L4D as I wouldn't, ever.
However Killzone2 is, in gaming terms, going to be seen as "Let it Bleed" compared to MGHS4's"the White Album" and long term be appreciated(I'd put COD4 in as OK Computer by Radiohead as well, irrelevant but fair!Gears2 , perhaps some Born to Run era Boss!)-you get my point if you're an old gimmer like me i'm sure.
BTW SE FF games are the equivalent of any new romantic band you like where the hair is the most important feature!Obviously with a side of Emo for the young crowd but nothing hard just Funeral For a Friend or something.
Sorry, it's early, and I do talk cack at times but I really don't feel I ever played a 100/100 game-not Bioshock, not even my fave SoTC but the odd need for PS exclusives to go further than 360/Wii/multiplats is unfair given their quality over the past feighteen months especially.
Obviously I'm most excited for Kratos doing his best Ozzy for the HD release of Black Sabbaths Paranoid in GOW3!

[stagga]

@QuackPot

In response to your ideas for innovation I had to mention a few points. Most of them have already been done so you can see how hard it is to be truly innovative these days. For example:

"* FP perspective Roll, Kick, strangle, Hold,Punch etc - I haven't seen the FP Roll ever done before."

Examples seen in Mirror's Edge, Armed Assault, Condemned 2, GRAW and probably others.

"* manually reloading magazines, bullet by bullet - new dimension to gameplay "

It might be a new dimension but gameplay? Come on, that would be incredibly tedious and not entertaining at all! Games need to fun. Even in a full blown simulator this kind of thing would be dull and unneccessary.

"* Finite Ammunition - new dimension to gameplay "

I've played many many FPSs where I run out of ammo. Admittedly there's usually a basic pistol in most FPSs with unlimited supplies because MOST FPSs are linear and therefore contact with the enemy is unavoidable. Designers have to do things like this to keep the player from getting frustrated. Condemned is an exception because of it's sneaking and melee gameplay which allows the player to still kill the enemies after the ammo has run dry. If you really want to see this implemented properly then play 'Operation: Flashpoint' or 'Armed Assault' since they were doing it years ago. It's easier in an open world of course because when you were stuck without ammo you could run in the other direction and hide in the woods until the enemy passed. Those games truly are innovative!

"* vehicles requiring manual refueling/rearming - new dimension to gameplay "

Operation Flashpoint once again. (Released in June 2001!) Also they allowed you to repair damaged vehicles by bringing a repair truck alongside.

So you see even the things you haven't seen have been done already. There are so many games out there now that it's difficult to come up with something completely new.

[QuackPot]

Have GRAW2 but got bored of it quick and never encountered any FP Roll.

The thing is with all these suggested features:

* You have to choose a right time to reload your MAGS - nervous as hell as you will be a sitting target. Or simply pick up the loaded mags from fallen friends or foe. FUN.

* You have to use you ammunition wisely - not just blasting away in full auto - because once you run out that's it - game lost. Also, you need to protect your armoury because once it's taken out, you have no ammo. Also, you can take your enemies supply of ammo or take it out. FUN.

* Vehicle number should also be fixed. You destroy it, it doesn't respawn. Gone for the rest of the game. Should be able to fix vehicles and definitely refuel(have a small fuel take) & rearm. This really forces the gamer to used the hardware wisely - not recklessly - and to look after it and protect it due to the advantages vehicles give in a game. FUN.

I mean c'mon. I prefer a exciting shooter that requires real planning and thinking rather than who's the fastest on the draw.

obvious.

[retrofly]

You cant innovate FPS, its so raw and basic that there nothing you can really do. COD has been doing the same thing in like 8 iterations. Farcry 2 tried new things, like the immersive factor, but when it game to playing the game it was just rubbish.

If I want something different I'll play a stratergy or sports game. If I want an FPS, I want a solid FPS when I can shoot the crap out of things.

Bells and whistles are all good, but the core of the game has to be solid and by the sound of the reviews so far KZ2 is doing this.

[Shane Kim]

Oh ooooh, another great score...getting sweaty bots? HAAAAHAHA

[Foxgod]

Cus us bots dont have any great(er) scoring shooters right ?

(/sarcasm)

[sak500]

hahaahh TheMart pwned you guys, none of you droids can claim he doesnt have ps3 yet you j@ck@sses hv only ps2 to play with not even a damn ps3. Atleast he was one of the few people who bought LBP, none of your droids did that.

[BMS84]

And the OPM Netherlands rarely gives very high scores , i think Fallout 3 was 89 RE4 90 MGS4 94 so.. they rarely give a game above the 90 .

[vloeistof]

uhm ps3 can be james brown 360 can be rolling stones :)

anyway cant wait to buy the game :)

[gololo]

why is this game held to an "innovative" standard? what did halo3/cod4 brought to table that was soooo innovative?

[Ausbo]

halo 3 did innovate. the communtity and online of multiplayer is the innovation and the support bungie gives it. Believe me, i was disappointed in halo 3 but it is still fun as hell and the best online community ever. stop crying ps fanboys 91 from a STRICT magazine is freakin good. you say what they gave metal gear so play the game. obviously if you are complaining about the score you are already gonna buy it so it doesn't affect you. killzone will be great but probably not god like all of you are claiming.

[gololo]

ok...im not complaining about the score in post am i? i am just wondering why KZ2 is being held to such and reviewed for innovation? What did Halo3 bring, community? No, the community existed since the first Halo, and Halo2 improved a LOT upon it, but again, big fps communities were all over the place (did u ever play CS?). So, again what did Halo3/COD4 brought to the table that no other FPS shooter did before? Why the likes of GTAIV were scored so high, even though, nothing innovative was done, in fact the gameplay was a step back, and full of bugs.
Games should be review on Graphics, Sound, Presentation, Gameplay...not on innovation, not every single game can do something that changes the genre.
Yes, 9.1 is an awesome score, but if then ALL games should be held to the same standard, and I bet most games would get points off for not being innovative then.

[labwarrior]

So, i will definatly rent it

[AnttiApina]

I want to see those IGN and GameSpot reviews...I don't want these Playstation Offical Magazine reviews.

[PR3DAT0R]

FFS all this fanboyism its driving me crazy!, Its like world war f*cking 3.

cant everyone just get along with each over, i mean each console has its own superiority's.

There both great consoles 360 and ps3, cant we just leave it at that please.