IGN: The Lost and Damned, 12-20 Hours

The Lost and Damned to take anywhere from 12-20 hours to complete. And that's just the single-player story. For $20 (1,600 MSP), L&D offers a full-fledged campaign, new locations, new mini-games (arm wrestling!), refined gameplay mechanics, new vehicles, new weapons, a hefty new soundtrack, new DJs, new TV shows, new Internet sites, and new multiplayer. One thing's for certain: Rockstar isn't dicking around with horse armor.

GTA IV: The Lost and the Damned is looking like one of the best deals around. You're essentially getting a full game for just 20 bucks. While we haven't been given any details on the multiplayer, we're told it's as robust an offering as the single-player. Oh, and if you've noticed L&D listed for sale at a retail outlet such as GameStop, know that this is not a disc. It's just a card with a code you can enter on Xbox Live to download the DLC.

[Blademask]

This sounds like more SA/what was missing from GTA4. Rockstar already got 60 bucks for a full terrible game from me though.

[Time Lord]

Thank you very much, but i don't need/want it.

[AAACE5]

I have been going back and forth on if I want to buy this or not and so far I am leaning towards NO! But then again, I keep thinking about some of those MS points I got for X-mas and didn't use yet... so I don't know!

[cito35th]

do you smell that? the smell of 360s being FRIED trying to play this lol
no, im DONE with GTA, give me my killzone2, socom, gears2, fable2 and im done

[chaosatom]

I mean GTAiv was near like 20 hours or 25 hours with the story. And 100 hours if they do it 100%, which no one does.

IF the mechanics of the game, or story mission are unchanged, then it's not going to be worth it.

[Montrealien]

Typical GTA article response on n4g. The vocal minority coming to comment on how they don`t care about the game, all the while 100`s of thousands of people still play it on a weekly basis and have no clue what n4g is.

/On topic

I`ll be checking this out, seems like a good value. might even even make me dust of my copy of GTA 4.

[FantasyStar]

You sir, deserve bubbles. I'll check it out myself and see if the $20 is worth it after I finish Fallout 3.

[Jikla]

It comes to this or the fallout 3 dlc. But since I'm not done with either of theese games I must wait till I'm done with those games.

[BRG9000]

Bubbles from me too Montrealien. I don't know why it's so "cool" to knock GTA4 on this site. It's not a flawless game by any means, but it's a real accomplishment in story, setting, and arguably in gameplay, very substantial, and pretty darn fun.

I was wondering if the DLC would be worth the $20, but now I'm really looking forward to it. This is obviously no ploy to pry money out of the pocket of the consumer who just sees GTA and forks over cash. It's a legitimate expansion to the game.

Maybe by dissing one of the biggest, most successful, and arguably best games of the generation people think they're showing that they have higher standards than the rest of us clods who actually enjoy the good games, so what they say must be SRS BZNS.

[dachiefsman]

agreed. While GTA4 didn't blow my mind, I still had a great time playing it. at 20 bucks 12-20 hours is a deal to me considering some games at 60 bucks are ~10 hours.

[Faggol]

my bro just bought an xbox yesterday........looks like i got some new GTAIV catching up to do

[Joey Greco RULES]

this is gonna be some good DLC.

this still isnt as good as the baked goods i consumed this morning.

[Dread]

the reason people in n4g hate on GTA4 is because

1. it went multiplat. which still makes sackboys furious

2. the DLC is exclusive to the 360 which (see part 1)

i for one am going to play the @#$% out of this puppy.

I would also like to point out that people here could not stop criticizing ms for buying this DLC saying that it was going to be very short and irrelevant. 12-20 hours is fantastic for a DLC regardless of what platform you pray to. Even if it was only 12 hours is still freaking great and much longer than most games this generation. So please sop the ridiculous fanboy, sackboy, sony defense force, nonsense and try to be a gamer and recognize that this is not that bad. I know it is hard.. maybe this will help killzone 2 is awesome yeyyy!!!!

peace

[Blademask]

1. The camp that has been gaming since before this generation, who knows GTA4 was an epic failure that failed to improve upon the formula set by previous GTA's, was overhyped, and didn't deliver.

2. The 360 fanboy camp that will defend anything till the end of time.

GTA4 sucked directly compared to San Andreas. You can pretend its fun to drive your cousin around for the 12349th time, and have nothing to do in an empty city after you've done what there is to do (in a few hours). But the rest of us who aren't sole 360 owners, dont have to pretend. The online is meh, the SP is meh, and the sandbox style do-anything is degraded from previous GTAs. The only thing people like about GTA4:

1. Driving physics (lol what?)
2. The "deep" storyline (This is GTA we are talking about right? The same GTA that just 'lifts' its stories from movies? Bash in heads, have sex with prostitutes?)
3. The People falling physics.

Yeah that sounds like an amazing title right there. Thats EXACTLY what GTA has always been about. Driving and a deep storyline. Please.

Play Saints Row2 and lie to me about GTA is a better G A M E than it. GTA4 is garbage. Due to the majority of features being removed for 4.Don't try to make GTA4 a 360 specific issue, because it isn't. The game sucked, anyone without MS blinders on can see this.

[Dread]

@bladestar

perhaps GT4 was not as good as San Andreas, but it did not suck. Perhaps u were disappointed with the end result and perhaps it was a bit overhyped, but come on the game did not suck.

peace

[BRG9000]

What does 360 fanboyism have to do with it AT ALL? It's a multiplatform game. You failed to actually discuss the merits of the game and posted about a thousand words of weak "everyone who's not a 360 fanboy knows ______" arguments, which hold no value.

Do you even know that GTA:SA went multiplatform too (it was a timed exclusive)? You talk like only the Sony elite (and no one who owned a PS2 would possibly be stupid enough to buy a 360) experienced the holy grail of San Andreas, and thus understand how terrible GTA4 is. I, for one, own every non-handheld GTA game and fully disagree.

Your post is a baseless mess of unfounded critisms blended with insults to the generic pool of "360 fanboys". All you've succeeded to do is show that you're one of the people Dread was talking about right above your post, and your post just serves to support his.

[Graphics Whore]

Anywhere between 12-20 hours? There's a lot of discrepancy in that value.

[Nathan Drake]

They really mean it's 8hrs long.

I remember people saying "Gears of War 2 is like 12 hours man!",I finished the game in under 7.

[Mindboggle]

It probably means 8 hours story and 4-12 hours free roaming.

[Bubble Buddy]

How about if you take the cab? 5 hours? Kidding :P. I just sold GTA4 to my friend who wanted it so I can get new games :D. Got bored of that game way too fast >.>

[crck]

I finished it at 35 hrs. Sure I could have maybe spend 65 more hours looking for pigeons but I consider that more like torture not gameplay. If they are advertising 12-20 its probably more like 6-8 hours.

[Rambo]

All we want is for our country to love us, as much as we love it.

[militant07]

I completed GTA IV on 22 hrs.

i just load game everytime i lost and no free roam becasue i wanted to get the achievement and i though the game was longer.

[Lord Xire]

A game you play as a different character besides Niko Bellic with a different story been included in the original game...

That would have been ass backwards.

[Marie]

Indeed

[Homicide]

Thats pretty reasonable. Ratchet & Clank Future: Q4B was only 4 hours and cost $15. Heavenly sword was 5 hours and costs $60

[Graphics Whore]

Oh I wanna play this game too!

Gears of War was 4 hours and costs $60!

[Homicide]

And it had online play. Fail!

[Xbots play games]

AT LEAST GEARS OF WAR didn't have to lie for MONTHS AND MONTHS about having co-op!

[Figboy]

second playthrough took about 8 ( i was unlocking everything).

third playthough took about 5 (i just wanted to beat it again, because it's a fun game).

this whole, "Heavenly Sword is 5 hours long" thing is silly, and not true.

sure, if you rush through ANY game you can beat it in 5 hours or less, but just because a REVIEWER, a guy paid to review many games in a deadline, says a game can be beaten quickly doesn't mean every gamer will experience the same thing.

regardless of length, if a game is enjoyable, you will probably go back to it and play it again. i enjoyed the combat of games like Heavenly Sword and Assassin's Creed, so i played them well beyond beating their story modes.

[AsILayDying]

at the end of the i can't wait 4 this beast

[GiantEnemyLobster]

EXCLUSIVE to Xbox 360. DLC of the Year 2009 CONFIRMED.

[Marie]

Yea the cost is pretty good comapered to time play.

[Fishy Fingers]

Not bad for the price, not bad at all. 12-20 though, that's quite a wide margin.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Yeah since GTA 4 there was and achievement to finish it within 30 hours of gameplay so 12-20 hours is alot value for 1600 MSP.

[Nathan Drake]

Fixed.

[KRUSSIDULL]

Hater
Edit: I would like 2 see u complete Gears of War in 2 1/2 Hour on Insane if u have an Xbox that is.

[Nathan Drake]

Realist

[KRUSSIDULL]

OMG u took a bubble from me!

[Rambo]

Live for nothing.. or die for something....

[Slinger420]

Too many people complain about gamelength. Try not playing the game nonstop. Many people have to work, go to school, take care of other responsibilities, etc. Not everyone sits in front of their TV for 5 hours straight playing a game. I won't be buying this anyway as I have the game for PS3 but if it was availabe for download from PSN, I would buy it in a heartbeat. I can never sit in front of a game for more than hour, hour and a half so I would rather play an action packed super polished game like Call of Duty, Gears of War, or Dead Space. To all the complainers about gamelength, go play Fallout 3. You can wander around aimlessly for hundreds of hours, you will love it.

[zeeman]

As a Playstation owner I have to admit I am jealous. Oh well...

[pippoppow]

Like how Rockstar will take the PS3 users money for GTA4 but only come out with extra content on the 360. They only made over $300 mil from PS3 owners. Supposedly it cost Rockstar $100mil to make so they made a nice profit off of PS3 version sales alone. Ps3 fans of the game should be upset that a company who's game you supported is needlessly being neglected. Rockstar should be smart enough to realise $300mil trumps $50mil. It is not a good idea to agitate a fanbase that contributes greatly to your success. One day it might bite you in the ass. Same goes for Bethesda.

[shinobi333]

12-20 hrs is great but we're gamers we'll finish it in like 8 to 10.
still not bad

[tatotiburon]

incredible deal, this DLC will be a huge success

[Rick James]

For $20.00 USD you basically are prolonging the value of GTA4, plus getting access to an all new single player campaign and new multiplayer mode.

I bought WarHawk for my PS3 and have purchased every additional add-on. To me it was worth it. New maps, new vehicles, and the rocket pack is the bombdiggity.

I also bought Ratchet and Clank: Quest For Booty for my kids. Totally worth the $15.00 USD I paid.

I can understand if somebody didnt like GTA4 that this wouldnt be worth it. But the majority of the people who purchased GTA4 genuinely like the game and this DLC gives them a way to maximize thier purchase.

[tatotiburon]

wow 12-20 hrs, that's more than any PS3 game

[MGOelite]

*cough* resistence 2 250 hours if you play everything *cough**cough*

owned b!tch

[Graphics Whore]

12-20! wow! That's more than double your IQ!

[Xbots play games]

*cough* resistence 2 250 hours if you play everything *cough**cough*

*cough* and coincidently only owned by the same amount of PS3 owners *cough"

[Jerk120]

That's more than double his IQ and more than triple YOUR IQ.

[Kushan]

And by "blend", I mean "sell". The total market for this game is only the people who own GTAIV on the 360 and have an internet connection. DLC isn't THAT popular, I'll be very surprised if this makes the $50million Microsoft paid for it (Was it just this episode or was it 2 or 3?).

[Martini]

The $50 mil deal for 2 episodes is just a rumor that has never been confirmed. The deal might be valued at $50 mil but it was probably mostly advertising packages on MS networks for GTA IV and some cash for R*. So it might have been valued close to that # but it didn't actually cost MS nowhere near that amount :)

[Chrisy]

Wow Im impressed! I hope they have put together a great detailed story. The GTA4 world could be very interesting if RS played their cards right this time. Throw in the medic missions, some now gameplay mechanics to spice up the lasting appeal and it should be a winner (gta:SA) somewhere down the road.

[hydro-lx]

look at the fanh00, being a regular person for once! to bad its on microsoft boards and not sony...

[Joey Greco RULES]

NARENDRA WHABI
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that is all.

[Obama]

This game is not hyped since everyone knows that it's going to suck. Bike is also the worst vehicle in gta 4 for anyone who have the game

[ymbsittend]

--i see you're on a bubble hunt
--you forgot to mention Killzone 2 somewhere in your post though

[Obama]

This is about gta4 and how the expansion is going to suck big time. I do have the original game and it is way overrated.

[Why dis]

Must have for any owner of the game or simply a fan of the franshise. period

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

cause I really couldn't stand GTA4 and Im one of the people that flat out don't see why it got GOTY 08! you can explain/defend the game all you want. But I've played way more games that have technically advanced more over GTA!. As of now this is a NO! for me.

Sorry San Andrea's spoiled me to heights that GTA4 didn't even reach, half way!

[Why dis]

I hope the rest of the game gets patched when you download the DLC with its improved gameplay mechanics.

[militant07]

so 20$ wasnt bad as i though

good to hear that its more than 12 hrs.

i maight buy it, depend on players reviews.

IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING REPLAY !!!! AND TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

That's a lot of gameplay.

I'd probably get it if I had a 360.

[Joey Greco RULES]

Thats nothin.
I'm definitely gonna get this "expansion".
Anyone who whines and cries over this, sucks at Life in general.

[Joey Greco]

thanks for the support

[Joey Greco RULES]

You're beyond welcome.
You're the man.

[creeping judas]

Hey I feel I'm the only here that truly enjoyed GTA4??
I kept the game after I beat it just for the DLC, and now knowing that for $20 I get 12-20hours of gameplay, that's awesome!!!

Unlike some other DLC that I paid for that lasted me less then two hours!! < points finger at Fable2 DLC >

[Blaze929]

So all that "overpriced DLC" bs can stop becuase its not DLC, its an expansion pack

[anubis12]

ALL FOR 20$$$$$$ NICEEE

[AngryHippo]

....haters can hate as much as they want, but at the end of the day I enjoyed GTA4, and can't wait for this.

[Marie]

Hot

[Ldubbz]

A new GTA game for $20? Thats a no-brainer. For those of u who dont like the game, oh well...me and millions of others will be happy on the other hand...

[Magic_The_Celt]

A Pitty its stupidly over priced for DLC

[hendersonman]

Yes but it is the right price for an expansion, btw Little big planet has more DLC and it nickels and dimes you for a few extra levels at $6.

[u got owned]

Sounds pretty good to me. I think I'll check it out.

[Marie]

Balling

[Firstkn1ghT]

WOW! Score a win for Microsoft on this one. This looks to be seriously bad ass. This character might even be better than Niko. I mean cmon, who would you want to pick? A Hells Angels bad ass biker? Or a foreigner?

[panasonic23]

lol at people calling this dlc overrated it not worth the price ahahahhahahahah

[panasonic23]

this game look hot

[Dark General]

Sounds good from reading this article. The main game could have used more weapons, a bigger soundtrack and more tv shows.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Droids am cry

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Thats alot for $20, it's more than most games. Is this comming to the PS3?

[JOEdANGEL]

Sadly, it probably isn't.

[PS3Diablo]

WASTE OF TIME, Rockstar should have been working on the PS3 exclusive instead...

[C_Dub]

Not saying this will be better than KZ but for $20 it looks great if you even remotely enjoyed GTA IV.

I will certainly get KZ2 but this DLC better fits my currently tight budget.

[Marie]

Sweet

[JOEdANGEL]

Man Im hoping this comes to the PS3 eventually or im going to have to buy a new copy of gtaIV, seeing as my xbox ruined it.

[Ldubbz]

and you still have the game, you should contact MS/Take Two. Many times they will send you a free copy if you send them the ruined copy. Not saying its a guarantee, but I know people who did that with PS2/Xbox games before.

[Creep]

I was so into the release of gta4 I even went to the midnight luanch and got it went home and pop it in on my ps3 and i was like what!!!!!! that's it this is what the hype is about. To let u know i have played the last 5 gta's including the top view ones that were sometimes anoying but at least had so much fun with. I think gta going to realistic was a bad idea to the true fans leave that to 2k games with the mafia franchise but don't hurt gta with all that crap not fun at all btw san andreas still the pinacle of the gta's for me