IGN: New Conduit Screens

Some new screens were posted on IGN to accomodate the new videos. They showcase huge improvement over the last batch released on October 30, 2008.

[Product]

much improved since the last bunch.You can tell the lighting and environments have improved and so has the field of depth.

[Doppy]

Looking really good, not as good as a launch 360 title like they said, but good.

Finally looks current gen.

[Durffen]

Are we ever going to get a release date? Or news on the multi-player? High Voltage is just killing me right now. I guess it's a good way to keep me excited for it.

[Product]

Nintendo Power in their next issue is getting the exclusive Multiplayer content including wifi.(wifi is rumored to be in the issue).
Release date is from most sites May.

[Lombax]

No one buys a Wii for the graphics. It has to make good use of the motion/pointer controls.

And for f*ck sake, give us some pointer calibration! Zelda TP did it. Why not a FPS? I'm tired of pointing the controller at the floor to shoot an enemy in the middle of the screen. >.<

[ChickeyCantor]

No but the game looking good is a bonus and thats pretty much why most people have the need to bash a Wii because of its graphics.

You can't say it looks like a n64 games or something like that.
It would have been nice if all developers put more effort in stuff like this on the Wii.

[Lombax]

The good (for the Wii) graphics are a nice bonus. However, it wont be a good game if it controls like mush.

The Wii's selling point is the controls. The Wii's weak point (with 3rd party devs) is the controls.

Side Note: Ever notice some of the Wii's best games have no need for the motion controls? Zelda TP, Mario G, SSBB, Mario Kart, Super Paper Mario...

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption was one of the very few that got it right.

[ChickeyCantor]

Well the controls are coming off nicely too.
In the videos released 2 days ago you can see the controlls are pretty much done well.

[Lombax]

Is there a vid out there showing the person controlling it? All I've seen so far is screen shots and vids directly from the screen.

[ChickeyCantor]

http://www.nintendoeverythi...

Second video.

[Lombax]

I have seen those vids. I don't see a person holding the controller in the vid. For instance, I don't see some one shaking the nunchuk and performing a melee attack on screen.

However the fact that you can completely remap your controller, "dead zone" and HUD, is simply amazing. I think every game should let you remap the controller buttons however you want.

...but i still have not seen anyone play this game.

[ChickeyCantor]

There is a person from HV playing the game on one show...I just forgot the name...the logo is black and yellow/orange?
With that guy who talks fast and has this weird voice and usually a femal presentator is there too.

[bobbylii]

And the video can be found at gametrailers.com

Oh btw I have played the game at PAX and the controls feel amazing. I own MOH:H2, Metroid, COD:WAW. The controls are better than all of them put together. And the graphics aren't "JUST A BONUS" they are a big part of the game along with controls, multiplayer, and gameplay.

I am tired of people saying Wii games aren't about graphics so just cut the bullSPIT OK?
And FPS is always more enjoyable with great graphics. OH BTW AMAZING GRAPHICS, NICE EFFECTS & DOPE WII CONTROLS would make a game great.
Look perfect Drak N64. GAMEPLAY+GRAPHICS. AMAZING EXPERIENCE.

[N4g_null]

I don't know this actually looks good to me and I play crysis and quake wars. The normal maps are very impressive for a system that can not do them. The funny thing is each PC game controls differently on the PC due to user settings so I'm not sure what you are getting at? The feel is adjustable and metroid pretty much got it right. I've seen it many times in person and seriously this is the Wii sports for the hardcore. Now the only question I have is how much the motion+ is integrated because I have not seen that demo with the game yet.

Oyeah every thing is customizable and there is limited use of waggle. Seriously when it comes to game stop play it.

On another note these guys are on id level in my book now. This is ultimate resume chest beating stuff right here. They should be very proud no matter what happens.

Seriously we need more real hardcore developer out there. Hell I would even pay for a live service for this game or run my own server if I could!

[SnakeShady]

looks like KillZone 2

[NeonSkull]

erm you mean killzone 1

[SnakeShady]

i mean killzone 0.
i was sarcastic

[enviable27]

Well it looks better than haze thats for sure.

[Lombax]

I believe it belongs over there ------------------------------ ------------->

[bigman7387]

Why is that an open zone question?

[dragunrising]

The screens look quite nice. I am really hoping people buy this game; otherwise other publishers aren't going to bother with the Wii.

@ above- Why can't a Wii game look good? If the conception of a Wii game is that it looks bad, no wonder we have so many bad looking Wii games and cash ins. It must have become acceptable to release games that could have been last gen. Clearly Nintendo is able to make some good looking games. 3rd party devs should be able to as well. It boggles the mind that it took 3 years to do so. It only makes sense to invest in the graphics department (and quality control as well) being the Wii controls 50% of the games market. Considering its less expensive to develop for the Wii, much more effort should go into making Wii games look decent. With that said, I can't wait to play this game in 480p and widescreen :-)

[labwarrior]

Why do they even post this stuff ? Is this the "serious" hardcore gamer offer they have ?

[enviable27]

Well for people that only have a Wii this generation, its not a bad addition to their library, to me it honestly looks like an xbox1 game but oh well maybe the controls will make it next gen..... sarcasm

[ChickeyCantor]

People really have the needs to troll places.
Youre troll stamina is amazing. =/.

[Lombax]

he only has 3 bubbles?

xD

[doG_beLIEfs]

The main improvements that I see are to the lighting. Specifically, it looks like a redheded stepchild of UE3. Everything has that shiny, glossy look to it now. The colors are nice. I still see way to many jaggies and the upclose textures are still a blury, muddy mess.

For me, I could care less how good the control is for this game. I am sorry, but no gameplay is going to be good enough for me on the wii with Xbox UE3 graphics when I can have graphics and gameplay to match with

KILLZONE 2.

That game makes this wii game (the best graphically we have seen so far) LOOK TWO GENERATIONS behind the PS3.

[Voiceofreason]

Oh you mean the blur they showed off that ads realism to the game? Like in the scope part where the objects in center are focused but those to the side were blurry? That's actually part of the game. Its called realism. If I was looking down a scope focusing on one target, the other targets that I am not centered on would be blurry and out of focus.

[doG_beLIEfs]

I was referring to the guns. Look at the guns, especially the Alien ones, see how blurry and muddy the textures are? Look at the ground, the walls, pretty much any detail and depth of the textures are lost in a muddy sea when you look at them up close.

And you want to talk realism?

See Killzone 2

Like I said b4, looks good for a wii game, it just that Killzone 2 look two generations ahead of it.

This is simple reality. If it bothers you, then buy a PS3. Please don't try to defend that GameCube with a new dress with this generation if you want to talk graphics.

And I did not even mention physics, size of levels, complexity of A.I. amount of characters/enemies on screen, or 15 other things I see from the videos and screenshots released so far from the Conduit.

[ChickeyCantor]

I for one is not excited about KZ2, People have their differences.

I don't think you get that some people might feel more immersed in a game thanks to the interface(the controller in this case).
Kz2 might be the thing of realism with all the pretty shaders and complex physic system, but dual analog is not immersing all people into a game.

It's not "reality" and this is were you become arrogant becuase you think that all opinions should match yours.
I can't give a damn about all the physics and shaders Killzone 2 brings, Dual Analog sticks won't do it for me anymore.

[doG_beLIEfs]

If motion controls are that important than thats fine. For me, the eye candy and immersion including the 7.1 DD sound does more for me with immersion than motion controls. If my eyes tell me that what I am seeing is the same thing I saw in a videogame almost 10 years ago it will immediately take away from the immersion of it.

I have a BC launch 60GB yet I don't play any PS2 games on it. I cannot go back to PS2 graphics anymore. I am spoiled with HD, and Blu-ray. Even though the PS3 has some of the best DVD upscaling due to the Cell chip, I can only watch a DVD when I cannot get the movie on Blu.

Yes I am spoiled, but I love new technology that pushes us ever so closer to the ultimate reality of a Holodeck. I know I won't live that long but in just over a decade we have gone from Disruptor (PS1) to KZ2. I can only imagine what games will be like 10 years from now.

That is my biggest problem with the Wii. It is REgressing games not PROgressing them. Yes control is a big part of the gaming experience, but graphics for me are very important too.

In 10 years, I want to look back a KZ2 and say WOW, that game looks like ass. I don't want to be playing the SAME graphical level game 10 years from now. With the Wii...THAT is what you are doing.

Technology moving forward = GOOD

Technology moving sideways or backwards = BAD

[ChickeyCantor]

Moving sideways is not bad, it has opened new doors in this industry.

" That is my biggest problem with the Wii. It is REgressing games not PROgressing them. Yes control is a big part of the gaming experience, but graphics for me are very important too.
"
Because you think graphics are important doesn't mean what Nintendo is doing is bad. Thanks to the Wii people started thinking differently about how you can play a game. This is also a part of "progression".

The whole progress of improving something isn't just that what we already have. Taking those parts and just evolve them by making them faster and stronger.

Nintendo made people realise that controllers interface is as important as GFX or HorsePower are.
MS and Sony deliver those 2 things and Nintendo the other.
And as Hardware is getting cheaper and more efficient, well i see no reason why their next console won't deliver all 3.

[Product]

Ill have to disagree with you on tht just because if i want a "real" fps ill go play on my pc.
Also what is everyones deal with Killzone 2?has anyone actually played it yet to really judge the game?Graphics are important but i feel games are to be played not watched and video games were made to be an interaction based tv experience meaning the more i can get into the game whether it be through graphics or gameplay(controls,game mechanics) is still what its all about.
Fps on consoles just dont match up to my pc and thats why this game shines for me because of the controls.

Its funny though because if your so into graphics you will always be disappointed in the end and wont be able to like the game well past its prime because like you said in 10 years youll look back and say "Killzone looks lik a$$" when really you should look back and say man Killlzone was a blast to play but unfortunately graphic whores are to into the new and better.Its sad because i look back to Megaman and say"thats some of the best platforming ive ever played".....you would say"it looks so old" but Megaman will not be remembered for graphics instead by its gameplay mechanics just like all true top games of their time.Street Fighter hasnt changed(down to forward punch will always work) and neither will Punchout("what this game isnt a boxing game and more puzzle game?") Most FPS in general in 10 to 20 years will be forgotten because they dont add anything new to the genre and all are pretty much carbon copies of each other the only difference being what you said graphics....nothing really gets added to gameplay besides trying to do everything a pc fps would do.After this gen is over and the next has come killzone 2 will be a good game yes wont deny it but it will be just like Killzone 1 for ps2 other games with better gameplay mechanics will outshine it even though it will sell very well.

The same will be said about Metal Gear,in the game industry the first had a bigger impact on gaming then any of the others because it was fresh gameplay mechanics.Then again most movies are the same way,the first more often then not is what people remember the series by more then any other one.

[Urameshi]

I wish people could pull their heads out of their @sses and realize the truth of your point. Too many people put too much importance into graphics.

[topgeareasy]

this games rapes halo 3

[ambientFLIER]

Lol. I suppose it IS much easier to make a good-looking game when you don't have to worry about all those pesky high-def pixels.

[dgroundwater]

Too bad the sniper in this game is taking a page from the Red Steel school of bad game design. Action FPS's should have a clear sight circle, while the rest of the screen is tinted but still visible. This is what made the Halo and Gears snipes so fun to use.

[bobbylii]

W@e havenly seen an alien sniper bud so I don't know what you talkin bout. If you mean the black gun with a purple scope. that isn't a sniper it is an assault rifle.

[Goingdown]

Graphically, Killzone2 of course is technically brilliant. Only problem with its graphics is so far blandness, everything is so gray. Conduit, even it is little bit better in that area, cannot tecnically be even close to Conduit. Killzone wins 9 to 7, when given scores from 1 to 10.

Controls. No fps can get any more than 5-6 when controlled using pad - it is just so bad and non-interesting way to play fps. Wii controls are just great for fps. Even PC's most accurate mouse and technically best controls cannot complete, because Wii controls are lot more FUN to play. Conduit Wins 10 to 6.

So, what I am trying to say, it is just what the player favors most. For me, main thing is controls and fun factor of playing.

[bobbylii]

But the conduit can definitely beat KIllzone in the tech part if scores were from 1-10 Conduit would win 10(or 9.5)to 9. I'll explain how. What if the games were technically judged by the platform. Both games are incredible but Conduit is more impressive because it runs on the Wii whereas Killzone runs on PS3. So the Conduit has pushed the system harder then Killzone has because PS3 is a BEASTLY POWERHOUSE.

[bigman7387]

Why would you rate graphics relative to the console?

Relatively, a Ford Model T would have a 10 rating in HP (it had 20 HP) whereas a Ford Focus would probably get around a 6 or 7 (it has 110 HP on the lowest powered model).

How would that be a good thing? You would rate a Model T's HP higher because it pushed the engine harder compared to a Focus, which has over 5x the HP of the Model T.

That rationale makes no sense at all.

[Product]

where do you guys come up with these car comparisons?Your judging the first production automobile from 100 years ago to an economy car.Model T destroys focus in its sheer importance.Car comparisons should stick to what they are...cars,not games.
Importance wise what will Killzone gives us in gameplay that hasnt already happened?Now what will the Conduit gives us in controls that hasnt already happened?
Thats the big question not graphics.

[N4g_null]

What is funny is lots of people rated the PS2 based on how much power it had. Seriously go back and read some reviews and look at some of those graphics and tell me that res evil4 looked better on the PS2 LOL. Yet it almost got the same score LOL.

I tend to rate the system on what it is trying to be. The Wii is clearly trying to be a console the HD system are trying to be a PC. Killzone to me gets a 6 for graphics, seen that done that and no draw distances either. Then on top of that it's married to a bad controller.

[Product]

agreed i have no clue why so many people are all over killzones graphics...your so right about the draw distance.......you seen the beach in crysis with the mountian?the draw distance on that was 1 1/2 miles.Plus does killzone even have color..im not a fan of the dirty,grey colorless facilities in the game.You can tell the devs werent going for an art style and more about pushing tech with killzone and they did a great job at that to bad games should start at art design and end with tech and not the other way around.

[SinnedNogara]

This game looks amazing. And it is only January. The game comes out through March-May. Just imagine what will be done then. Why are we talking about KillZone 2?????

[Gr81]

Was the PS1 holding the industry back with its lack of horsepower compared to the N64? Give that argument a rest dude "technology moving forward" It is stagnation using the same controller for three gens that's holding the industry back. But hey at least it looks pretty, right? Why are people even mentioning Killzone, this game is called The Conduit, if ppl posting here wanted to talk about Killzone you are a few clicks away at the PS3 news section, right where it says "Halo Killer" and precipitator or Wii like sales for PS3.

[bigman7387]

For a Wii game, yes, it looks good. But I don't see how this can be compared (not by me, but by many others in this series of posts) to the other two consoles.

The character models maybe possibly kind of almost look like they could pass early on in this generation. But unfortunately the textures of the guns and the rest of the landscape is somewhat paltry. Hopefully they can up it a bit before release.(They should be able to as the major problem is jaggies on the environment and they is usually one of the last things dealt with)

Don't get me wrong, for the Wii it is impressive. But graphics are not (as someone who posted above hoped they would be) relative to the system. The walls all have that "painted on" look, nothing really in 3D, if you know what I mean.

[Product]

For a wii game your right it does look good but relative to other consoles it doesnt at all.....but thats not the point of this game...the graphics are a added bonus seeing as how most devs dont put that much effort into gfx.
Its funny though because if gfx were that important we wouldnt want Goldeneye on xbl or virtual console......but then again that game was important to gaming and set standards for a fps just liek this game will with controls which games from here on out will have to copy to be as good as.Importance always rules over graphics and its usually gameplay mechanics that makes that possible.I dont even liek Halo but what other fps before it has such a community to it?none which is why its an important fps(although it is a casual one at that imo).Games that are not important are not remembered.The wii might have alot of shovelware but it will not be remembered for it just as ps1 wasnt remembered for its shovelware because it had gems.

[Thoreau]

the game looks sad.

[rumplstilts]

I am so pumped to play this game. I'm going to have to stop playing brawl and smb2 so i can play this game.

[Allowen]

I never played a Kill Zone game and because of that I am more excited to get my hands on the conduit game then to get KZ2 for my Ps3.
Both games have uber graphics but I am a bit tired of every RPG with FF7 kind graphics and that is the almost the same for FPS as well and so I am loving to see The conduit's cartoon graphics like Valkyria Chronicles Rpg for PS3 that rules btw.

[addnewman]

wtf? cartoon graphics?? wot hav u been smoking?