Why Killzone 2 is better than Metal Gear Solid 4

So this last year saw some amazing games land in our hands and we have been spoilt for choice in this era of next generation gaming. A topic that will never die down as long as videogames are around is that of graphic superiority.

When I first saw MGS4 running in front of me, I was astounded at just how damn good the graphics looked, specifically in the cutscenes. While I was super impressed with MGS4's visuals and never let down by the high standard of graphics in the Gears of War series, I really can't say that I have ever seen anything that looks quite as good as Killzone 2.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

I agree...

[Israfel]

The graphics and online replay value is way higher and more proficient.

But you, know MGS is always in my heart, so I can never say "---" is better then MGS(x)

x being whatever mgs game.
-- being whatever game.

[kapedkrusader]

...the first thing the author says is that he is referring to the technical standpoint, not storywise.

[TheTwelve]

Technically...heck yeah. Graphically? Heck yeah. But besides that...I don't think the two should be compared.

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[SL1M DADDY]

Since both are technical masterpieces. Story wise, well MGS4 is a game for the fans and Killzone 2 is a game for FPS and epic theme fans. Not that MGS4 is without an epic theme but being more for the fans, the game can lose some who do not understand the story even in the slightest.

[xwabbit]

Both game's have completely diff way's of playing, so y compare them >>?

[pswi60]

this comparison is rather unnecessary...

[Aaron Greenterd]

Why isn't there an article stating "Gears is better than Halo"?

Because another part of my ad campaign is to make ps3 owners feel that one ps3 exclusive HAS to be better than another, when the obvious fact is they are both great games.

Aren't we jerks?

[chaosatom]

:)

Microsoft is in on which exclusive on ps3 is better war.

[himdeel]

...I prefer articles comparing PS3 games amongst each other to comparison articles of different games on different consoles of different genres. Technically K2 does "look" better and appears to be pushing the PS3 specs more than MGS4.

I'm biased to believe at this point as I've been rolled up into the hype that I'll enjoy K2 differently from a technical standpoint with respect to MGS4. Both fantastic games but I am honestly more excited about K2 release date than I was about MGS4 release date.

[ThanatosDMC]

The only thing a Sony exclusive can go against or go toe to toe with is another Sony exclusive??? What happened to the competition???

[phosphor112]

Why apples are better than oranges...

[dragunrising]

Not sure I like the article. The difference between MGS4 and Killzone 2 are the game engines. Depending on the game engine the game might more scalable on the hardware and be able to push it more. If Hideo is to be believed, MGS4 maxed out the "engine" not the hardware. In the case of Killzone 2, the engine has not been maxed and the next game will likely try. There is a difference in maxing game engines and consoles. PS3 will never be maxed however game engines used to output excellent visuals surely will be.

[Mr PS3]

Gonna reserve Judgment until i Played K2
But it Dont mean MGS4 is a Shabby Looking Game its an Exceptional looking Game
Damm How Good is Killzone gonna Be

[SSCOOLCHEA]

But after playing a COMPRESS MP beta of killzone 2 ......I have already made that judgment that killzone 2 will be better ( my opinion ). Thats how fun that game is ...After see the SP in action . It looks awesome

SNAKE is still AWESOME

[POGfinder]

case closed

anyone who ever played the BETA will tell u that

[UnwanteDreamz]

Your entire comment is subjective.

[Shoduke]

So is yours :)

Kidding kidding. Just felt like doing that im bnored

[DarthTigra]

Imho no game this gen will top MGS4 from what i've seen.

[Skyreno]

alright...say that just wait until it released and you going going to say killzone 2 is better then mgs4 :) ..

[WANNA GET HIGH]

It depends,if u are a gamer that love a action pack game and cut scence that are not to long then u can say killzone2 is better.I love mgs4 but the online let me down alot;i was in the killzone2 beta and i can say it is better than cod4(AND I AM A HUGE COD4 FAN).Killzone2 is the best looking game on a console and from my years as a gamer who loves FPS i personaly think killzone2 is the best i have played from my time with the beta.

[theEnemy]

Game of the Year.

[Kratos19]

The only console game that looks better than MGS4 and Uncharted if you ask me.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

No.The only game that looks better than mgs4 is killzone2,Mgs4 looks better than uncharted.

[POGfinder]

KZ2> uncharted> MGS4 > Gears 2

[Kleptic]

yeah...imo...

Killzone 2> MGS4 > Uncharted > ...then Gears/UT3/Gears 2 (no major tech upgrades between any of them)...although GT5p and Wipeout HD could definitely put up a fight tech wise against any UE3 game...

MGS4 is a fecking juggernaut of graphics though...while Uncharted does look great...I can't agree that it tops MGS4...

thats a tough call though...as it is now...Killzone 2 has major advantages over all these games...the lighting is simply the best real time lighting of any game ever created...the animation is in a league of its own (there is no crying in Killzone 2)...scope is bigger...and even up close details (textures, particle effects, etc.) top all of them...but I can't point out what MGS4 does exactly better than Uncharted...the water physics in Uncharted are better (although MGS4 has the same awesome rippling, the reflections and current are far less impressive)...MGS4 definitely has better in game cutscenes, but Uncharted may have better overall animation...even particle effects in both games are very different, yet both are still extremely impressive...

so I guess for me its just the art direction...I like MGS4's gritty war theater...and also like Uncharted' 'romantic' pallet or whatever the art students call it...its just that if I had to pick one to look at for the next 5 years...it would be MGS4...to each their own...

uncharted 2 looks to displace that though...so Uncharted 2 will probably take the second spot in my book in the near future...killzone 2 though could potentially ride out this generation being on top permanently...

[rhood022]

As I guy who's played every MG game and have marveled at how each game pushes past the previous one and even past it's contemporaries, I HOPE Killzone 2 surpasses it.

But as for making comparisons, I'll have to wait until the demo or the full game.

[u got owned]

"But as for making comparisons, I'll have to wait until the demo or the full game."

Bubbles for you for talking sense, i love how people in here like to compare games when most of them have not play one of the games mentioned.

[Fishy Fingers]

Well I rate games on simply more than their graphical prowess. But the genres/styles are so different I'm not even going to entertain the idea of which is better.

[WANNA GET HIGH]

Just think of killzone2 as a TPS and having that graphics and the detail on the gun then u will see why it is better than mgs4.But i still think MGS4 is the best TPS ever made.

[Fishy Fingers]

Why, because it's better graphics? Again, I rate a game on more than just visuals, be that FPS, TPS, RTS etc.

MGS4 may not look as good as KZ, but will KZ have the emotion of MGS4? The games are completely different and the developers had different goals.

I just dislike how everything must be compared, or labeled "better" or "worse", whats wrong with different?

[Sev]

Exactly Fishy, it's like apples and oranges, and having people say they like oranges better because it's a brighter color.... hahahha...

Seriously, MGS4 isn't about graphics, yeah it's got some of the best there is. But MGS4 is about story, character development, and bringing out certain emotions in the gamer.

Example, after you kill each beast, you are made to feel badly for the beauty, after hearing about her past.
How many other games have you feeling bad, that you just killed a boss?
None, and no game has a chance to come close to that type of emotion being brought out in a game.

Killzone 2, while technically and graphically, may be better, I don't think the story, characters, bosses, and sheer variety of gameplay will even be near the level of prestige that MGS4 has.

As much of a graphics wh0re as I am, I am truly saddened to see people saying KZ2 will be a better game.

[arvfab]

"How many other games have you feeling bad, that you just killed a boss?"

Hmmm... I was really sad after killing every Colossus in Shadow of the Colossus.

But I know what you mean and I share your opinion.

MGS4 was an excellent game and I'm sure that Killzone 2 will too.

And you know what's better? It's better for me, as I can play both :D

[MegaMohsi]

From the title you assume that KZ2>MGS4 as a game not just graphics. Graphics ofcourse are better on KZ2 but the game we'll see. MGS4 wasn't as good as 3 but is still better than 95% of games out this gen.

[Anon1974]

I just finished MGS4 this past weekend and I've got to say, as a fan of the series I liked MGS3 better. MGS4 was outstanding to look at, but I have to admit to sitting back and groaning at the cutscenes that just wouldn't end! The series has always had lengthy cut-scenes..and I have nothing against that so long as they have something to say, but some of these were just painful - and I couldn't bring myself to skip them just in case something pertinent came up.

"Look at me. I'm Sunny, and I'm going to cook eggs." "Well hold on there. Those eggs aren't done right."
Ugh! Just shoot me.
Finished it. Generally liked it. Trading it in on my lunch break today. Where's Killzone 2 at?

[YonasJonas]

You do realize the all the cutscenes were interactive, and in the mission briefing you could even use the mk 2 to move around, change angels, and find items as well as easter eggs? You should play it again since it seems you missed a lot, which is understandable considering the vast amount of things you can do in the game.

[Anon1974]

The interactive nature of some of the cut scenes did help, but didn't help me when my wife was the one with the controls at that particular time. "Look! Just, move it around! There's something in the corner. What on earth are you looking at? Argh! You'll killing me!"
Again, I liked MGS4, don't get me wrong..and I know it's probably worth a play thru again but I simply don't have much time to play these days. I've got Fallout 3, Resistance 2 and Prince of Persia waiting to be played - COD keeps calling me back plus Killzone 2 is just around the corner. With my gaming time limited I'm simply not going to spend time replaying a game I just thought was good in the first place.

[PPnoPP]

Alan wake> KZ2> Gears 2> Uncharted > MGS4

[dkgshiz]

Seriously, I doubt it even exists. Also, it doesn't have better graphics then KZ2. Your an idiot. Another 360 exclusive that doesn't exist. Huxley. It was supposed to come out 3 years ago. Still nothing.

[solidjun5]

but I'm curious PP. Didn't you always say Gears 2 is waaaaaay better than that "flop" - as you so eloquently put it - Killzone 2?

Artard.

[Obama]

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[Kleptic]

no...he may be right...Alan Wake (PC) may have everyone's jaw on the floor...the 360 version will be similar to the PC version the way the 360 version of Far Cry 2 is to the PC version...I would put money on that...

[belal]

is better than killzone 2 mainly becuse of story. killzone story wont be as big as in mgs4, and the gameplay in mgs4 was so awesome...

but that dosent mean that killzone 2 is weaker or anything!

killzone 2 has much more replay value with online and better graphics ;)

[J-Train]

i just went to eb and looked all through the shelves and didnt see it. i even looked in the coming soon section....nothing!

[dkgshiz]

Its equal with MGS4

[J-Train]

my opinion is KZ2 is better than MGS4

[smokeymicpot]

Everyone is good at judging games before they come out. 6 months later everyone will be saying Killzone 2 is not that good just like GTA4.

[Fishy Fingers]

I highly doubt that, it took me a matter of 10 hours to realise GTA wasn't all it was cracked up to be. It took me longer than that to first break away from the KZ beta to run to the toilet.

KZ2 is an amazing game, GTA was not.

[dagreatest41]

I HIGHLY doubt Killzone2 will do as well as MGS4 did (review-wise). I mean MGS4 got perfect 10/10s on so many websites and magazines that it's hard to count.

Killzone2 will still be a great game but it's probably going to get scores in the 9/10 and 4/5 range. How do I know this?

well technically killzone2 is hands down the most amazing console game to date. in other aspects however (storyline, voice-acting, etc.) it still lags a bit. MGS4 on the other hand had top of the line graphics, sound, etc. AND top-notch storytelling, voice-acting, etc.

and more importantly, there is just so much competition in the FPS market that it's going to be really hard to stand out. I mean MGS4's main competition was...splinter cell....Killzone2 however is going up against Halo, Call of Duty, Far Cry, Half Life, Crysis, etc.

Obviously I still hope Killzone2 does well (commercially and critically) but there's going to be a long, hard road ahead.

[PPnoPP]

Both are crap now lets move along.

[topgeareasy]

halo wars and other crap halo game are better then alan wait but killzone 2 rapes xbox 360 2009 line up!!!!

[MrJack]

Personally I believe that Killzone 2 has the better graphics, but MGS4 may have better art direction, it's a matter of opinion. I will be able to compare when i have KZ2 running on my PS3, until then I can't say.

[dachiefsman]

will have to wait on this one. to early to say.

[Hercules]

but i own mgs4 (a friend said i will regret it) well, its just a bunch of sneaking around,..and you really dont shoot (well you can,. but you arent suppose to) i guess it just didnt catch my interest..and the cutscenes also made it boring for me...i know i will get hella disagrees but i perfer gta4 over mgs4..back to topic, we will have to see how K2 ends up next month...i wasnt in the beta, but from the videos i seen, its shaping up real nice

edit: to earn the big boss medal/achievement you have to get less alerts, correct? this is more of a stealth game, what i meant was you can shoot, but you arent suppose to, meaning i have to sneak around a lot,. of course i get to shoot at the boss fights, but thats about it..

edit2: ok you played vice city and SA, correct? weren't those drive here, shoot him? i mean what could you expect from R* to make it different? if it wasnt for that, it would not make a GTA game...and the mechanics were superb..maybe the aiming had an issue,. but i got used to it..,.and isnt MGS4 the same? get on you homepad, watch sunny cook eggs, land on a island, sneak around, then kill a boss? at least with GTA there was a variety of missions (the bank job being the best, then funeral)..MGS4 had some great missions too, but it just didnt appeal to me..either way both games deserve a ten in their own way since they are in different genres..

[YonasJonas]

Ok, you've just made your statement totally irrelevant right here. I seriously doubt you played the game at all since a very large portion of the game has shooting in it.

[Anon1974]

I liked GTA4 over MGS4 as well. As I posted earlier, I just finished MGS4 this past weekend, and I enjoyed the game but the cutscenes were downright painful at times. I don't know if something's just lost in translation or what the issue was but I've played all the major MGS games, they've had some long cutscenes in the past but at least they said something. Some of these just rambled on and on - and you don't want to skip them because the plot's convoluted enough as is, you don't want to miss anything.
By contrast, GTA4 (which I haven't finished yet) has some pretty inspired dialogue that never seems to weight the game down. MGS4 was for the hardcore, no doubt about it. It certainly wasn't for everyone.

Edit: @ YonasJonas. No, he's right. You really don't shoot a lot, but that was never the point of the MGS franchise. I wondered that at the end as well - what's the point of having 60 guns in your inventory when the tranq gun is usually your best bet all the time? MGS4 certainly isn't a run and gun game like GTA4 can be.

[YonasJonas]

You can play MGS4 however you feel like so you're both still quite wrong there. I played through the game 4 times, and one of those times I played it as a straight up shooter game. GTA 4 on the other hand has about the stiffest mechanics around. It still feels like 2001 with this game so if you do decide to take off the auto target you have some of the worst shooting in recent memory. The missions are as repetitive as they come so I didn't even care to finish. Drive here, auto target shoot this person, drive out of the circle to avoid the cops, rinse, repeat. As for the story I could care less about this wanna be gangster bs.

[Anon1974]

You don't care about the plot on GTA4, I think it's fantastic so far, reminding me of a good Sopranos episode. It just comes down to taste. Also, I hardly think a MGS fan should be criticizing another game for having stale gameplay mechanics and repetitive missions. Nothing much changed in MGS4 and running around and clipping through a slowly turning Vamp to try to get behind him to put into a headlock didn't exactly smack of cutting edge gameplay to me.
Don't get me wrong. I liked MGS4, but people are at risk of putting it up on some kind of pedestal like it's Halo or something. MGS3 felt and played better than MGS4 in my opinion.

[YonasJonas]

There's a mech fighter section, a fighting section, an espionage section, various rail shooting sections, you can play the game as a shooter or a stealth action, the boss fights/locations are always drastically different, and unique. Hell you get an insane amount of weapons, and even a mini robot that you can choose to use. You have various items as well that always make things different depends on how you use them. I played the game 4 times, and always played it very differently, and found new things. If that's not variety then I don't know what is ...

[Anon1974]

The mech section was cool, albiet very short and you only had one gun to choose from. The rail shooting sequences irrated me a bit. I'm not even sure if my shooting did anything because I sucked and couldn't hit squat bouncing around like I was, but still managed to get through. Drebin can't drive.
The fighting sequence at the end was almost painful. I'm sorry, it was. It felt like it was thrown in as an after thought, but I imagine the stiffness of Snake might have conveyed what it would be like to fight as a 70 year old man. Yeah you had a lot of guns to choose from - but I always just ended up going back to the same couple of weapons or the tranq gun.
Dude, it just wasn't my favorite MGS game. I don't know what else to say. I happily went back and played MGS3 again. MGS4 I kinda felt relieved when it was over. My friends all loved it and played through a couple of times as well..it just didn't do it for me.

[jspc1989]

6 months ago metal gear solid was the greatest thing since sliced bread (still is :P), and now there r people on here saying its not that good lol.

[Anon1974]

It's a fantastic game. No one is saying it isn't. Just because I have some criticisms doesn't mean it's not good. There's certainly reasons why it's showing up on everyone's "Game of the Year" lists, but it certainly isn't a perfect game. Don't get confused.
The critics loved Halo 3 and it showed up on everyone's GOTY lists as well, but I could write a report about the problems with that game. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the hell out of it. It's ok to discuss in a civilized matter differing opinions. That's why we're all here, isn't it?

[ultimolu]

Um, they're both kick ass games.

[Aclay]

Hmmmm..... That was a pretty interesting article, but when it comes to storyline, I think that MGS4 will be one step ahead of Killzone 2 though... but then again, I haven't played KZ2 yet, so I don't know how good the story actually is.

The fact that Kojima said that they were pushing the PS3 almost as far as it can go, only for another PS3 game to push the envelope even more is pretty awesome though.

I don't think it's really safe to say that KZ2 is better than MGS4 just because of technical and graphical aspects alone because both games are entirely different genres and both games have different types of gameplay. But I do think it's safe to say that Killzone 2 is BETTER than Resistance 2 (obviously).

[militant07]

disagree FPS could never become better than TPS.

although killzone2 is game where the enviroment is gray and your are gray and your enemy gray and your weapon gray.,

that make me sick

[pornflakes]

What a stupid comparision and article, cause KZ2 is a game and MGS4 a movie.

How the hell can ppl compare a game with a movie which includes some playable scenes.

[Magic_The_Celt]

Play through it yourself did you? if not please take a big cup of S.T.F.U :)

[hay]

Opinions, opinions.
I prefer MGS4 and I don't think Killzone 2 will change my mind. I still love previous games as one of the best ever despite newly released titles.
Killzone 2 is amazing technically and seems to be freakin fun, but hours of great motion capture, great music score, variety in gaming style and high res char models will top any fps shooter now and in next few years in my personal opinion.
But hey, I'm one of those who prefer story over killing.

[ApocalypseShadow]

gt5 will be great.heavy rain will be great.god of war3 will be great.the list continues.

it's funny though that now we have to start comparing "ps3 exclusives" with "ps3 exclusives."because there is nothing out there to compare to on other systems.

and now we are comparing ps3 exclusives to high end graphics games like crisis.that's a shame.because before,it was about gears being a better looking game.but once that was over and 360 fans turned to gameplay(as gears was no longer the best looking console game),that game has been forgotten.sort of like ninja gaiden2(what?what's that game?)

ps3 pulling ahead.it started with mgs4,but won't end there.more games like killzone2 are coming and they are exclusive.we now have to compare to something "HIGHER."

ps3 fans,you got your reward for sticking by ps3 through all this FUD nonsense from the opposing team.

"prediction": i think there will be a last battle of epic proportions in killzone 2 that ***6 spes*** were needed to make it happen.i think enemies and bullets will be flying everywhere.can't wait to see it.

apocalypse..................

[Sabre2922]

I agree with what the others have stated in that these are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAMES.

MGS4 is a masterpiece but it is NOT a FPS Killzone 2 is.

It would be more of a fair comparison to state that Killzone 2s incredible graphics make Halo3s graphics look like Halo2.5 in HD.

[u got owned]

Both games are technically impressive, but is hard to compare when first of all most of us here haven't play K2 yet and second, the games has totally different art direction and totally different engines.

[Madgunner]

yeah killzone 2 does exceed mgs4 in a technical standpoint... but no sh1t but thats not what counts in a video game. when i get killzone 2 and beat it... if sev turns out to die at the end.. i could care less, I Highly doubt this game is going to make me feel tons of emotions like mgs did and it shouldnt its an FPS and as far as gameplay wise mgs4 still wins hands down there is so much involved in the world of metal gear in terms of story and gameplay that u simply just cant ignore, if someone comes up to me and tells me.. u can only pick one game to be developed between mgs4 or killzone 2.... sorry GG, i'll side with Kojima and his masterpiece. dont get me wrong my antipation for killzone is just as much as it was for mgs4 but to say killzone 2 is a better game than mgs4, very misleading title Metal gear solid for me will be the greatest game of all time

anyways thats just my thoughts

PS: Wrote this while listening to The Best Is Yet to Come
http://uk.youtube.com/watch...

you cant tell me that song is not legendary

[samura]

I could not agree more and feel sad for those who could not understand the brilliance of the MGS series and its themes.

Thanks man.

[Madgunner]

more inspirational when it comes to mgs but that will have to do ^_^

[samura]

Comparing the graphics of two games which are released 8 months apart is bullS@hit.

when will these guys understand that 5 months do A LOT of difference.

[ph3lid]

bbbbbut teh gameplay ..

[Magic_The_Celt]

Heh its funny

MGS4 won the official graphics of the year award 2008

and now Killzone 2 looks to set a staggering new pole.

[cyclindk]

MGS4 disappointed me, personally; it was great fun, I'm playing it right now actually, but I expected SO MUCH MORE!!!

They don't have 10 percent of the extras I figured they'd have-

-camos
-other playable characters
-unique weapons

Loading screens and installs were a bich and the flame effects should have been scrapped altogether.

I thought you'd be able to disable those Gekko in more interesting ways as well, and the whole "faction" thing didn't seem to pan out at all. Thought you'd be able to hold up guys, knock em out and then take their disguise and infiltrate that way, but nope...

Anyway, here's looking forward to MGS5

[bviperz]

I find it interesting when you're left with comparing 2 titles from the same console. What's next, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 comparisons? PS3 owners (and soon to be owners) should rejoice. The excellent gaming library is expanding. I can see GG (and other) developers sharing their secrets to success (PS3 development wise) with big name developers come GDC 09. Brace yourselves and save your money because here comes the games.

[2 cents]

The only game better than mgs4 is mgs2. I`m still waiting for a game to top that but nothing so far. MGS4 is the best game i played this gen, though. And i played a lot of games.

[DarkSniper]

The cold hard fact is this, it doesnt matter which is better. What does matter is that Dark Sniper takes great pride and joy knowing that the greatest games that are being brought up for comparison are PLAYSTATION®3 exclsuives. Journalists do not even feel the need to compare monsterous blockbuster hits such as Uncharted, Metal Gear Solid, Killzone, Resistance to the underachieving XBox 360's lineup of joke titles. Halo 3, Gears of War, Too Human, and Banjo Kazooie all look like child's play when you compare it to a vastly more superior and sophisticated console such as PLAYSTATION®3.

These comparisons show that next generation started on 11/17/2006, when Sony said so.

$niper

[Batzi]

Killzone 2 might have better visuals, but a better game than MGS4?? WTF are you smoking?

[Ju]

Why not compare them. From a technical stand point. I mean, you'd do something like A pushes more polys, B uses more particles. AI in A does this. Physics in B is that. It does say nothing about the gameplay implementation of either one. Its more like a geek approach to the games. Nothing to get worked up about. Some things can't just be compared from a technical standpoint without taking some design decisions into consideration. But in that context, I think it is an interesting subject. At least from an engineering POV.

I need to see KZ2 personally. I think it has surpassed MGS4. Well, its out later, knowledge has evolved. Design decisions might have been different to begin with. MGS4 is the best visual experience on the PS3 right now (I think better then UC simply because of scope, resolution and sharpness of the engine). The KZ2 videos and reactions of people who got their hands on sounds promising to top this achievement.

What's bad about it ? Heck, I hope that both UC2 and GoW3 will both surpass KZ2! But, this just keeps the satisfaction level high. Excitement over the next 6 month until you will be astonished again. The same like before, when UC, MGS4 and R2 released.

[maverick1191]

IMO killzone 2 is better as im not that much of a fan for MGS i dont like sneaking abuot alot and the cut scenes do my head in yes its a very very well made game and deserves its credit but its just not my cup of tea i prefer my FPS's thats why killzone 2 is better for me and i cant wait to my hands on it

[Mitch_Cumstein]

Heads of PS3 fanboys are exploding right now. Imagine a dog chasing his own tail if you will to get a better image of what this is going to do to the PS3 nation. The Special Olympics will be ruined.

[CertifiedGamer]

killzone uses 60% of the PS3 total power so mgs4 must have pushed 50% to 58%
I know he did however fill the bluray disc of a ps3 game with 50 gigs

[RumbleFish]

The most important piont in the article is: why did Kojima tell us, they're pushing the PS 3 to it's limits?

I was allways quetioning if SONY themselves do bit by bit "unlock" more of the power of the system for the developers. Perhaps SONY did restrict the usage of SPUs in the past?

[oldsnayke]

Erm, I disagree. I don't really give a sh*t whether or not people "disagree" or "agree" with me as this is my opinion, and a sensible one. You have KillZone 2, a classic FPS... of course people are going to prefer this over MGS. Why? Because the majority of people who play FPS don't involve themselves with the plot. In MGS, it requires you to do that and people don't like to think much when they play video games - they just like to run in and shoot the living hell out of things in FPS games.

Not to mention that you're comparing two entirely different games with two entirely different gamestyles. I don't know why people even bother making such comparisons. It doesn't make sense - it's like comparing Christian Bale to Jennifer Love Hewitt. 99% of people who agree that KillZone 2 is better than MGS don't give a sh*t about plot. Not one bit. And that's a promise.

[oldsnayke]

Oh, by the way... look at what the article is about - visuals. If they're saying that visuals are what defines a video game then I'm sorry... they need to stop writing articles in terms of video game comparison. Resident Evil for the PSX had terrible graphics, but it was still a fun game with a decent plot. Final Fantasy VII was a game with bad graphics, but it still had a fun plot... where did the days of "graphics don't matter" go?

[liquidsnake]

Well the graphics is certainly better, however, I'm a huge MGS fan, so the overall package for me is a big no.

[milesd6]

It doesn't even have destructible environments.